I worked for Cummins for 30 years and they have recommended filling the oil filter before initial installation for decades and I have done it for decades with no adverse effects. I have cut open a used Toyota filter from my V8 4Runner and the media was in perfect condition. It helps get oil to the engine more quickly after and oil change than putting the filter on dry and the media is already oil soaked then and ready for the new oil to flow through. No different than when you start the engine every time after you have changed the oil, the filter is full of oil, or is oil soaked.
@@RonRussell-sj1zf totally agree with you: on my subarus, the EJ20's oil filter is vertically mounted so that I can fill it up before cranking. On the EZ30, it is unfortunately horizontally mounted. When I crank the engine after the oil change, I can hear the clicking sound for clearly longer on the EZ30 which is enough to convince me to keep prefilling the filter where possible ;) so does my dad since 40 years and so did his father too...
This video didn't really answer anything. Though a blanket recommendation of pre-filling an oil filter wouldn't consider horizontally mounted filters. I would still pour in some oil so the dry paper can start transferring oil through faster, imo. My 22' Maverick has a vertical mounted filter, so I fill it up almost all the way, do the oil drain. Then after I put the drain plug back in, I add more oil to the filter since the paper took time to become saturated.
I learned two things from this video; The rapid way the engine filled the filter it may not matter if you pre fill it or not. But if you are concern that the correct volume is maintain, if you have a large or two filters then add oil to the filter. The second is, don't make your own oil filter.
@@opelservicekyiv Maybe if you had taken a glass jar with metal lid and solder it to the oil filter steel base. Neat insight even though it was short. Thanks for sharing
@@tcmits3699 Thank you for your feedback. I should have put the collar on, everything would have been fine. We are preparing a new similar experiment in the future.
Here's the deal, on every start up before oil change, your filter is filled with oil. If that won't harm anything, then adding oil to your filter when you change it wont harm either.
¿Qué tontería? ¿Cómo evita el aceite del filtro que se escape aire por el conducto de aceite? al que se suministra aceite desde el filtro bajo presión. Pero cuando no hay aceite en el filtro, se suministra aire al sistema bajo presión hasta que el filtro y los canales se llenan de aceite. Mi opción es llenar el filtro con aceite si es posible...
@@Vlasnijdosvid Quando o óleo e o filtro são retirado do motor para a troca, o ar entra na bomba e na passagem do óleo. Colocando óleo no filtro o óleo dificulta que o ar que entrou saia, pois a bomba está cheia de ar.
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@@Vlasnijdosvid Eu faço manutenção em automóveis já faz mais de 40 anos e uma única vez que enchi o filtro de óleo, a luz da pressão de óleo não apagava, pois a bomba de óleo fica com ar e não da pressão pois o óleo do filtro impede do ar sair. Só deu pressão quando o ar foi extraído, folgando o filtro de óleo. Ok. E por favor seja mais respeitoso. Obrigado.
I once forgot to install the new oil filter. I started the engine, but when pressure didn’t come up after several seconds I shut it down. In the few seconds the engine was running (5? 10?) it pumped out all 7 quarts of new oil. The filter is filled almost immediately on cranking- as your test showed, first with the old oil remaining in the oil pump, and then immediately by the new oil from the pan. Great video!
My brother had a house mate who drove cars without engine oil. The cars would run for a few minutes without oil. Maybe it is not so critical starting with an empty oil filter.....
Pre-soaking the oil filter with oil before installation will reduce the length of time the engine runs without oil pressure. And considering 90% of engine wear happens on start up when the oil is not circulating and lubricating,anything you can do to reduce that critical time will lengthen engine life,mainly the connecting rod bearings as those usually are the first to get dammaged in a no/low oil pressure situation.
Pre-soaking the oil filter is only possible in cars with vertical oil filters. In cars with horizontal oil filters, it is impossible to pre-fill the filter before installation and even if you try it, it will only cause a complete mess. In this situation, the only possible solution is to install the filter dry, then disconnect coil and injectors sockets and crank the engine over by the starter to fill the filter with oil. After that you can reconnect the sockets and start the engine.
This is a very divisive topic. If your filter is in such a way to allow for fill up, it won't hurt to do so. But my thought process is, what do you see when stripping a engine for repairs? All the parts are still covered in oil due to adhesion additives.
Oil goes from the sump to the pump then the filter and then the main bearings so what could it possibly hurt? If you want to prefill do it every little bit helps.
The argument is have heard is you are pouring "unfiltered" oil into the filter. This doesn't really make sense to me, plus it's new oil. So yea I agree, prefill the filter, especially vertical oriented ones that it's easily accomplished with.
@benscoles3067 the guy that commented above you translates to something about air bubbles getting in the oil or something but that doesn't make sense to me. I have vehicles I can prefille and k2500 from the late 90s I can't because it's a big block and the filter sits sideways and on startup it seems to take a good second or more before I get a reading where the others don't waste any time getting it there.
I always pre fill the oil filter before installing, but only using the oil from a new and unopened oil bottle that has just been bought for the oil change. I would never pre fill from an opened oil bottle from the garage shelf, or use a possibly contaminated funnel or jug. I used to hate that dry sounding engine on start up after and oil change before I started doing the pre fill, it seemed to take forever for the oil light to go out with a dry fitted new filter element. Time and gravity are wonderful for making sure that any possible contaminates in a new unopened bottle are sitting harmlessly on the bottom out of harms way.
We can se the oil is filling the filter very fast, even when engaging the starter, before the engine ignites. Hence, no pre-filling should be necessary. (Yet, I do, because of old habit…).
Всегда заполняю фильтр и даю постоять до полной пропитки. У нас при каждой заводке авто фильтр полный масла. Так что всё нормально, можно и нужно заполнять.
My old 1200 cc (40 hp) Volkswagen didn't even have an oil filter. Just a screen by the oil pickup. You could take off about six 10 mm nuts and take the screen out and wash it with kerosene. I would only clean it every so many oil changes. Very reliable little pancake engine. You could do a lot of work on that engine with only two size wrenches or sockets, 10 and 13 mm.
People act as though there is NO oil in the bearings after you drain the oil! Even if you fill the filter it will still take pressure to build up before it pumps any out. It is a non-issue, you can go either way and not harm anything!
I would like to see this test: 1) Drain the oil pan and oil filter. Leave them empty. 2) Start engine and let idle for 30 seconds. 3) Remove bearing caps and inspect for any bearing damage. I would bet the bearings would look fine with no damage.
There was a similar case a long time ago, when video cameras were still rare. The engine ran even longer. But everything worked out well. It would be interesting to do such an experiment.
Одно дело когда фильтр стоит вверх дном и туда не залить. А когда есть возможность залить, лучше залить, так быстрее смазка поступит к подшипникам. Люди несут бред когда говорят, залил маслом фильтр и его разорвёт, ничего не разорвёт! Кто боится что разорвёт, ставьте тогда перед запуском каждый раз новый фильтр.
@Встретимсяубассейна ты уверен клоун? А чего тогда на пустой фильтр лампочка горит дольше? А на полный быстрее! Ничего не говорит? Так что не ваше это людям говорить что и как!!!
It certainly won’t hurt anything to fill a filter with oil- even if you overfill the amount in the filter that won’t damage anything. Ford Focus engines listed 4.5 quarts as the capacity. I always put in 5. I was always slightly overfilled for the 200k (320km) miles I owned that vehicle. To damage an engine by overfill with oil, you need to overfill by 1.5x capacity or more so that the crankshaft is swimming in oil or pistons hitting oil. Even 1 qt over shouldn’t grenade an engine.
One time, I didn't fill the new oil filter after changing the oil on my Harley. When I started the bike up, that engine didn't sound happy for about 15 seconds or so. Never did that again.
While pre-filing is not a service requirement, a technican or mechanic's duty of care and implied warranty of skill should be honoured when carrying out these types of work that necessitates some level of technical savviness and know-how. Personally I won't prefill a filter for an engine that's reached operating temperature at the time of lube change, irrespective of the filter configuration. This is because there are still residues or remnants of oil at intricate areas that can manage the transient high friction until the components are forced fed, usually in a duration of seconds . For cold start lube change I would. This is why it's recommended to change oil when it's warm because cold oil flows slower so pre-filling revs up the buildup.
"Garage 54" did the same experiment with a Lada with a clear valve cover and oil filter, the oil filled the filter and reach the top of the heads before it motor even fired. so pre fill during a normal oil change is a waste of time. I would consider doing it on a motor that has been sitting a long time or major engine work
Yes, they did it very well. Several other UA-cam channels did this experiment. We are now constructing a separate installation for testing in different modes. And we revised the filter design. I think it takes two or three weeks to create. Thank you.
Most engine wear occurs during warm up , not start up. Its a common mistake not differentiating between the two. Its not the bearings or cams that generally wear out 1st on a motor. Its not the 3 or 4 second oil pressure delay at your bearings , wrist pins,timming gears or cams that happens every 5 to 15000km typicaly that determines engine life. Unless something catastrophic happens its the rings and cylinder bore blowby that determines an engines life.Its during the warm up from ambiant to running temperature where the majority of wear takes place. So essentially pre filling an oil filter will not lengthen the life of the motor in any measurable way as the ring , cylinder bore is worn out predominately by the engine running from ambiant to opperating temperature. Thats the reason stop start auto shutoff does not significantly shirten an engines life. Heat cycles is the biggest factor if your oil is kept clean. I pre fill my filters when possible, but I know its making little to no difference.
Вообще, по идее; 1) если фильтр устанавливается отверстиями вверх, почему бы сразу не залить в него масло?!...так делал мой дед и отец, так учили меня в технаре...ведь двигатель при пустом фильтре какое-то время будет крутить без давления в системе смазки, а как известно в момент запуска двс испытывает наибольшие нагрузки - думаю это не навредит двигателю 2) если фильтр устанавливается отверстиями вниз, то и заливать в него масло смысла нет...какое-то количество масла при установке фильтра, выйдет на ружу облив двигатель. Как-то так 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks for your feedback. Now we are assembling a setup for a similar test, only with a larger number of filters and in different versions. There will be in the future.
It's personal preference, nothing more. I've NEVER filled an oil filter and have a minivan with 189K miles with zero issues and a smallish SUV with 125K miles on the clock with zero issues. Thing is, engines are never completely dry unless it's being filled for the first time at the factory, or you've been letting it sit for months to years.
в современных двигателях также не рекомендуют прогревать авто перед поездкой и сразу гонят на высоких оборотах! А все для того чтобы владелец поменял авто через 2-3 года! всегда заливал и буду заливать масло в фильтр! и лишние пару минут на прогрев авто тоже выделю!
De acuerdo, pero mantener a ralentí el motor durante más de un minuto, especialmente en frío, tampoco es bueno: la gasolina no se evapora completamente y mancha las válvulas, y el aceite tarda demasiado en calentar. Lo ideal es iniciar la marcha progresivamente justo después de arrancar el motor. Dicho por un buen amigo y mejor mecánico. 😊😉
По факту пофигу заливать или нет, но на личном обыте(15 лет в автотехцентрах) лампа аварийного давления масла быстрее гаснет на пустом фильтре. А вообще даже за 10 минут работы на холостых без масла с мотором ничего не случится кроме пожалуй авто с гидронатяжителями и склонностью к перескоку цепи. А если по сути нет разницы то зачем морщить себе мозг и совершать лишние действия? Лично я даже уплотнитель не мажу. Открутил старый фильтр, закрутил новый, залил масло и готово. Гораздо важнее удостовериться что уплотнитель старого фильтра снялся вместе с ним, а не прилип на посадочном месте. Два кольца это бомба замедленного действия, может сразу рвануть фонтаном из под фильтра, а может и опосля.
З експеременту видно, що масдо попадає в фільтер відразу, без затримки. Я теж незаливаю масло в фільтер. Просто некупую дешеві фільтра і запускаю двигун на малих обертах. Я використовую масло 5w30. Якщо хтось використовує густе масло, наприклад 10w40, можливо є сенс.... Хоча ні, не варто заливати мастило в фільтер!!! Маю аргумент!!!
Эксперимент лишь доказал, что на наполнение фильтра уходит время и это задерживает подачу масла в двигатель. Но наполнять лежащий фильтр и так никто не станет.
Я в сааб 9⁵ наповнював фільтр і все було нормально. Так, під час прикручування трохи масла виливалося, оскільки він прикручується горизонтально, але зовсім трохи...
E determinante riempire il filtro dell' olio per velocizzare il processo di lubrificazione poiché nella accensione del motore si ha anche se per pochi secondi la mancata pressione dell' olio agli organi soggetti a logorio
It is impossible to prefill a Chrysler slant six, as the mounting face is positioned downward, and last time I checked, it is one of the longest lived most reliable engines in the world. My Chrysler B/RB/ HEMI has it horizontal, and my Cummins has it vertical. I will continue to fill them completely where possible, and partially where I can, if only because it’s easy to do and it seems completely rational, but not totally necessary.
My 2nd gen Toyota Tacoma V6 also has the filter on top of the engine facing down. That engine is also known for its legendary reliability and the filter obviously can't be prefilled either.
After watching the video, I think I should fill the oil instead? The starter motor immediately starts the oil pump, and you can see that it turns and the oil doesn't come up for quite a while. Also, the oil seems to fill up quickly after that, but the oil won't pass inside that easily. If the filter is wet beforehand, the oil will pass through as soon as it fills.
Sounds like a Tune Up is due!! Engine doesn't want to stay running!😅 Add a little Motor Oil to the new Filter, and turn it 360° wetting the Filter Media. Compare that to a Dry Filter Element on start up! Faster Oil Pressure buildup, and Much Quiter upper end noise on start up! The Camshaft, and the whole Top End of the Engine won't be screaming for mercy, and Lubrication!! Dry Filter Element material takes a little time to saturate, and allow new oil to flow!! Dry Filter Element material is very restrictive, and resistant to flow causing noisy initial starts!😮Not Good!!😱😳😳😳😳🤔🤔🤔😉🙂
We are preparing an installation with an oil pump and an adapter for an oil filter where it will be possible to accurately reproduce the entire process with testing of all filters.
Çok güzel çalışma 👍👑😀 filtrelerin üzerinde 'takmadan önce yağ doldurunuz' diye bir uyarı gördünüz mü ? Yağ doldurmak daha iyidir ama zorunlu değildir bence.
Se è per questo Le case madri delle automobili ti dicono di sostituire l'olio ogni 30000 Km quando è altamente dimostrato che anche il migliore olio non mantiene le proprie caratteristiche dopo i 10000km,trai tu le conclusioni.
Ô Marcio , isso não passa de folclore , não tem diferença nenhuma eu nunca fiz isso em nenhum dos 17 carros que tive até hoje , quando o motor gira o filtro enche e a pressão se normaliza em segundos tanto que a luz do óleo se apaga quase instantaneamente , e na carcaça dos filtros não tem nenhuma advertência a respeito disso , inclusive no meu motor atual Etorq só o elemento é trocado e é montado por cima portanto tem que ser montado seco o que demonstra que não tem problema algum , isso pode até ser válido para grandes motores diesel como em locomotivas por exemplo onde a pressão do oleo demora para estabilizar , porem em motores automotivos é dispensável ( no motor Etorq não dá para fazer isso , então como é que fica?)
Я не механік, коли заливав масло в фільтри, я помітив, що двигун менше шумить в перші секунди після запуску і менше вібрує, тому як невіглас я вважаю, що це хороша ідея залити фільтр, я ніколи не думав про це можливі пошкодження через перепад тиску, дякую за відео, привіт з Італії.
Luckily for that car owner his engine is in a terrible state of tune and doesn’t start instantly. If it had started instantly you would hear the engine ticking until the filter filled. Always pre-fill your filter. It takes several small fills to let the oil soak through the filter media.
I prefill the filter when I can, but not all cars allow it. My car has an upright paper cartridge filter design, so there's no way for me to fill it after a change. Maybe I could presoak it slightly .. but it probably won't make any difference in the long run.
It took several seconds for the oil to pump through the filter media. It probably isn’t causing much wear but every little bit helps if you want to put 250,000 miles on an engine. Auto manufacturers have a lot of knowledge but they don’t want you to keep your car forever either 😂. I pre fill my oil filters. It doesn’t cost any more money so why not do it?
Grazie per il tuo feedback Nel nostro centro assistenza auto nessuno versa olio nel filtro, tranne rarissime eccezioni. E se in questa situazione, allora non ha senso
На фильтре purflux нарисованно залить масло в фильтр. Думаю если конструктивная особенность позволяет наполнить фильтр и установить не вылев содержимое, то это обязательно.
And what do you do when you find an upside down filter? You will not fill it because is impossible and so? Is fine however as well. So filling the oil filter is just an unnecessary action.
Можно было накрутить фильтр, а затем обжать хомутами. По поводу заливки масла в фильтр, так есть автомобили где фильтр стоит вертикально и не получится накрутить его с маслом внутри.
A experiência mostra que ao tentar dar a partida, so na terceira vez que o filtro enche de oleo. Logo nessa partida apos trocar o filtro pode haver algum desgaste. Porem a troca do filtro so acontece de tempos em tempos. Entao acredito que tanto faz encher o filtro de oleo ou nao. Ate por que o motor vai estar lubrificado por que foi acabado de despejado o oleo novo. A
Секунды, без масла, страшный износ двигателя при запуске... А никто из вас не видел машины без поддона, работающие без смазки часами? Я вот видел, там рекламировали какие-то присадки к маслу, а весь секрет был в том, что время от времени мотор смазывался маслом из баночки, которую подносили к маслоприёмнику, он подхватывал оттуда грамммов 200-300 масла и этого хватало, повторялось это раз минут в 5.
Yo tengo un VALIANT 1962 y al cambiar aceite y filtro suelo desconectar el encendido .dar arranque hasta que tengo presion de aceite . Luego reconecto y listo. My car is VALIANT 1962 When oil and filter is changed unplugged ignition coil and start to oil pressure is up. Reconected and ready. Is other sistem to oil filter filling. Without spark pluggs is best. When is changed too.
Hoje existem filtros que ficam de cabeça para baixo, e ficam também de lado como no meu carro, impossibilitado encher o filtro de óleo! Meu carro tem mais de 300 mil quilômetros rodados, se fosse preciso encher o filtro acho que não chegaria tão longe.
If NOT filling your filter made any significant difference, the majority of vehicles would have had catastrophic failures before warranty had expired. I have found that excessively meticulous maintenance compared with just replacing wear parts and keeping the fluids filled has not made a significant difference in the life of my daily driver vehicles. The only difference is where I spent my money and time. The “neglected” vehicles have lasted just as long as the “worshiped” vehicles with no significant difference in vehicle life or major component failure. You can own your stuff, or your stuff can own you.
Quando o óleo é colocado no filtro, ele impede que o ar que entrou bomba e na passagem de óleo saia. É muito pior do que deixar o filtro vazio, pois demora para o ar sair e deixar o óleo circular.
Из этого ролика я понял только одно☝️Нельзя нечего мудрить. А на счёт фильтра,то я более 30лет за рулём,а также иногда помогаю родным близким заменить масло и фельтра с ремнями,так вот я учился на автомеханика ещё в СССР и мастер нам говорил если хотите что бы фильтр не порвало свежим маслом(особенно летом,бумажный элемент пересохший и от резкого давления может скомкать и разорвать бумагу фильтрующюю, особенно если нет перепускного клапана)) так что всегда смачивали пропитывали маслом,даже бумажные прокладки,да и паранитовые с двух сторон смазывали либо маслом,либо салидолом,так что за 30слишним лет я заливаю в филтр масло,а если он с торца в верх ногами стоит 😅 и всё выльется,то всё равно заливаю масло пропитываю фильтрующий элемент,масло выливаю и прикручиваю фильтр,этоже логично то что будет постоянно жить и работать в масле нужно пропитать😅😅маслицем.
Покажи мне масляную систему двс без перепускного клапана. Такая система не жизнеспособна так как в мороз например или при забитом фильтре гарантируется масляное голодание а так же разрыв фильтра и перегруз насоса. В любом двс есть редукционный и перепускной клапан(редукционный обычно на насосе, а перепускной в фильтре или его корпусе если фильтр в виде картриджа.)
@-Jahan- редукционный есть всегда,а вот перепускной который в фильтре не всегда. Есть такие фильтра на которых нет перепускного,но сейчас это редко обычно они есть но раньше чаще встречались фильтра дешовые на них не было такого клапана.
@@Олег.Иванович Как можно порвать фильтрующую бумагу если масло прижимает ее к внутренней трубке через которую оно выходит? Масло заходит снаружи колбы и через бумагу заходит во внутреннюю трубку для выхода. Если бы было наоборот, то вероятность обрыва бумаги была бы высокая.
Есть возможность сейчас смотреть это же видео на 8 языках: английский, испанский, итальянский, немецкий, португальский, русский, украинский, французский. Позже будет расширяться перечень языков. Это относительно новая функция UA-cam и система пока что не везде автоматически переключается. Необходимо зайти на видео, поставить на паузу, в верхнем правом углу "шестеренка-настройки", нажать и выбрать звуковую дорожку.
Yapılan test için teşekkürler, yağ değişimimde tümü boşaltılır. Sonra temizlemek için konulan yağ da tamamen boşaltılır. Test için yapılan filtre ve konulan yağ,Belki küçük motorlar bunu tolere edebilir. Yataklarda kalan yağlar aşınmaya engel olabilir. Ama büyük motor ve makineler için bu pek mümkün değil. Motorun üst bloguna yağın gelmesi hemen olmayacaktır. Filtredeki havanın atılması ve tüm sistemin yağlanması gecikecektir. Turbo yağsız kalabilir. Gemi makinelerinde önce yardımcı yağ pompası çalıştırılır. Sıkıştırma ve Ateşleme olmaması için piston test valfleri açılır. Ve volan bir motor yada mekanik olarak 2 tur çevirilir. Bu sayede tüm yataklara ve turboya kadar ön yağlama yapılır. Daha sonra start edilir. Yüksek devirli motorlarda örneğin motorsikletlerde daha da sorunlu olur.
I worked for Cummins for 30 years and they have recommended filling the oil filter before initial installation for decades and I have done it for decades with no adverse effects. I have cut open a used Toyota filter from my V8 4Runner and the media was in perfect condition. It helps get oil to the engine more quickly after and oil change than putting the filter on dry and the media is already oil soaked then and ready for the new oil to flow through. No different than when you start the engine every time after you have changed the oil, the filter is full of oil, or is oil soaked.
@@RonRussell-sj1zf totally agree with you: on my subarus, the EJ20's oil filter is vertically mounted so that I can fill it up before cranking. On the EZ30, it is unfortunately horizontally mounted. When I crank the engine after the oil change, I can hear the clicking sound for clearly longer on the EZ30 which is enough to convince me to keep prefilling the filter where possible ;) so does my dad since 40 years and so did his father too...
@@RonRussell-sj1zf I am a mechanic bt I did Cummins halfway may u help me
Quando o óleo é colocado no filtro, ele impede que o ar que entrou na passagem de óleo saia. É muito pior do que deixar o filtro vazio
@@antoniocorrales6488 через редукционный клапан воздух выйдет
I've been putting oil in new filters for over 90 years it the only way
Adding oil into the filter may not be necessary but it makes me feel better.
Me too.
This video didn't really answer anything. Though a blanket recommendation of pre-filling an oil filter wouldn't consider horizontally mounted filters. I would still pour in some oil so the dry paper can start transferring oil through faster, imo. My 22' Maverick has a vertical mounted filter, so I fill it up almost all the way, do the oil drain. Then after I put the drain plug back in, I add more oil to the filter since the paper took time to become saturated.
и два презерватива надевай, чтобы чувствовать себя комфортнее
I learned two things from this video;
The rapid way the engine filled the filter it may not matter if you pre fill it or not. But if you are concern that the correct volume is maintain, if you have a large or two filters then add oil to the filter.
The second is, don't make your own oil filter.
Thanks for your comment
@@opelservicekyiv Maybe if you had taken a glass jar with metal lid and solder it to the oil filter steel base. Neat insight even though it was short. Thanks for sharing
@@tcmits3699 Thank you for your feedback. I should have put the collar on, everything would have been fine. We are preparing a new similar experiment in the future.
Here's the deal, on every start up before oil change, your filter is filled with oil. If that won't harm anything, then adding oil to your filter when you change it wont harm either.
Those seconds without any oil and the engine cranking... Yeah I will continue filling my oil filters. Thanks!
Quando o óleo é colocado no filtro, ele impede que o ar que entrou na passagem de óleo saia. É muito pior do que deixar o filtro vazio
¿Qué tontería? ¿Cómo evita el aceite del filtro que se escape aire por el conducto de aceite? al que se suministra aceite desde el filtro bajo presión. Pero cuando no hay aceite en el filtro, se suministra aire al sistema bajo presión hasta que el filtro y los canales se llenan de aceite. Mi opción es llenar el filtro con aceite si es posible...
@@Vlasnijdosvid Quando o óleo e o filtro são retirado do motor para a troca, o ar entra na bomba e na passagem do óleo.
Colocando óleo no filtro o óleo dificulta que o ar que entrou saia, pois a bomba está cheia de ar.
@@antoniocorrales6488 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️Usted es una persona que se encuentra muy alejada de la industria del automóvil en su conjunto y de los principios de funcionamiento de los mecanismos y componentes del automóvil...
@@Vlasnijdosvid Eu faço manutenção em automóveis já faz mais de 40 anos e uma única vez que enchi o filtro de óleo, a luz da pressão de óleo não apagava, pois a bomba de óleo fica com ar e não da pressão pois o óleo do filtro impede do ar sair.
Só deu pressão quando o ar foi extraído, folgando o filtro de óleo. Ok. E por favor seja mais respeitoso. Obrigado.
I once forgot to install the new oil filter. I started the engine, but when pressure didn’t come up after several seconds I shut it down. In the few seconds the engine was running (5? 10?) it pumped out all 7 quarts of new oil. The filter is filled almost immediately on cranking- as your test showed, first with the old oil remaining in the oil pump, and then immediately by the new oil from the pan. Great video!
Yes, the pressure is high and the oil flows at high speed. Thank you.
My brother had a house mate who drove cars without engine oil. The cars would run for a few minutes without oil. Maybe it is not so critical starting with an empty oil filter.....
What we learned from this video: 1. Glass filters are a bad idea, and 2. That engine needs some work.
Pre-soaking the oil filter with oil before installation will reduce the length of time the engine runs without oil pressure. And considering 90% of engine wear happens on start up when the oil is not circulating and lubricating,anything you can do to reduce that critical time will lengthen engine life,mainly the connecting rod bearings as those usually are the first to get dammaged in a no/low oil pressure situation.
Pre-soaking the oil filter is only possible in cars with vertical oil filters. In cars with horizontal oil filters, it is impossible to pre-fill the filter before installation and even if you try it, it will only cause a complete mess. In this situation, the only possible solution is to install the filter dry, then disconnect coil and injectors sockets and crank the engine over by the starter to fill the filter with oil. After that you can reconnect the sockets and start the engine.
@@Messergebnis-liebhaber
The problem is when the filter screws from top to bottom
@@konstantin-big Work fast🙂
Even with the disconnections the pistons and rings are still running dry until oil pressure is up to normal. @@Messergebnis-liebhaber
@@jimiguitar3252 Yes, they are still running dry but running dry @ 250 RPM is way better than @ 1250 RPM!
This is a very divisive topic.
If your filter is in such a way to allow for fill up, it won't hurt to do so.
But my thought process is, what do you see when stripping a engine for repairs?
All the parts are still covered in oil due to adhesion additives.
Правильно🤝
Oil goes from the sump to the pump then the filter and then the main bearings so what could it possibly hurt? If you want to prefill do it every little bit helps.
Quando o óleo é colocado no filtro, ele impede que o ar que entrou na passagem de óleo saia. É muito pior do que deixar o filtro vazio
The argument is have heard is you are pouring "unfiltered" oil into the filter. This doesn't really make sense to me, plus it's new oil. So yea I agree, prefill the filter, especially vertical oriented ones that it's easily accomplished with.
@benscoles3067 the guy that commented above you translates to something about air bubbles getting in the oil or something but that doesn't make sense to me. I have vehicles I can prefille and k2500 from the late 90s I can't because it's a big block and the filter sits sideways and on startup it seems to take a good second or more before I get a reading where the others don't waste any time getting it there.
Dolej fo filtra ktory jest montowany pionowo lubub pod katem ale tez w pionie hehe
Let’s pre fill the filter so we can dump it out when mounting it horizontally.
I always pre fill the oil filter before installing, but only using the oil from a new and unopened oil bottle that has just been bought for the oil change. I would never pre fill from an opened oil bottle from the garage shelf, or use a possibly contaminated funnel or jug. I used to hate that dry sounding engine on start up after and oil change before I started doing the pre fill, it seemed to take forever for the oil light to go out with a dry fitted new filter element. Time and gravity are wonderful for making sure that any possible contaminates in a new unopened bottle are sitting harmlessly on the bottom out of harms way.
I've been pre-filling my oil filters for over 50 years and have never had an engine or filter failure. Dry Cranking an engine causes wear.
Lets go half the way: Half fill it. That reduces spill when installing and reduces time with low oil pressure. Cheers!
Yes, I agree with this engine start
We can se the oil is filling the filter very fast, even when engaging the starter, before the engine ignites. Hence, no pre-filling should be necessary. (Yet, I do, because of old habit…).
Interesting experiment! Thx! So it will be better to fill the filter with fresh oil before mounting...
Всегда заполняю фильтр и даю постоять до полной пропитки. У нас при каждой заводке авто фильтр полный масла. Так что всё нормально, можно и нужно заполнять.
My old 1200 cc (40 hp) Volkswagen didn't even have an oil filter. Just a screen by the oil pickup. You could take off about six 10 mm nuts and take the screen out and wash it with kerosene. I would only clean it every so many oil changes. Very reliable little pancake engine. You could do a lot of work on that engine with only two size wrenches or sockets, 10 and 13 mm.
People act as though there is NO oil in the bearings after you drain the oil! Even if you fill the filter it will still take pressure to build up before it pumps any out. It is a non-issue, you can go either way and not harm anything!
I would like to see this test:
1) Drain the oil pan and oil filter. Leave them empty.
2) Start engine and let idle for 30 seconds.
3) Remove bearing caps and inspect for any bearing damage.
I would bet the bearings would look fine with no damage.
There was a similar case a long time ago, when video cameras were still rare. The engine ran even longer. But everything worked out well.
It would be interesting to do such an experiment.
Одно дело когда фильтр стоит вверх дном и туда не залить. А когда есть возможность залить, лучше залить, так быстрее смазка поступит к подшипникам. Люди несут бред когда говорят, залил маслом фильтр и его разорвёт, ничего не разорвёт! Кто боится что разорвёт, ставьте тогда перед запуском каждый раз новый фильтр.
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Бред несёшь ты. Через сухой фильтр из системы быстрее выходит воздух и соответственно быстрее заполняется система.
@Встретимсяубассейна ты уверен клоун? А чего тогда на пустой фильтр лампочка горит дольше? А на полный быстрее! Ничего не говорит? Так что не ваше это людям говорить что и как!!!
@@Встретимсяубассейна у каких то гениев научился,фильтр в рабочем состоянии заполнен и дает давление сразу
@evgenyanovsky9719 сам понял , что написал.? Фильтр сначала закручивается сухим. Это потом система заполнена. Сначала система завоздушена
It certainly won’t hurt anything to fill a filter with oil- even if you overfill the amount in the filter that won’t damage anything. Ford Focus engines listed 4.5 quarts as the capacity. I always put in 5. I was always slightly overfilled for the 200k (320km) miles I owned that vehicle. To damage an engine by overfill with oil, you need to overfill by 1.5x capacity or more so that the crankshaft is swimming in oil or pistons hitting oil. Even 1 qt over shouldn’t grenade an engine.
filling the filter has zero downsides, not filling it might! It only takes a few seconds of no pressure to damage a bearing.
One time, I didn't fill the new oil filter after changing the oil on my Harley. When I started the bike up, that engine didn't sound happy for about 15 seconds or so. Never did that again.
While pre-filing is not a service requirement, a technican or mechanic's duty of care and implied warranty of skill should be honoured when carrying out these types of work that necessitates some level of technical savviness and know-how.
Personally I won't prefill a filter for an engine that's reached operating temperature at the time of lube change, irrespective of the filter configuration. This is because there are still residues or remnants of oil at intricate areas that can manage the transient high friction until the components are forced fed, usually in a duration of seconds .
For cold start lube change I would. This is why it's recommended to change oil when it's warm because cold oil flows slower so pre-filling revs up the buildup.
I’m supposed to take this seriously!! 😂
nice video thanks
Thank you! Glad you liked the video !
Bravo, bel lavoro...... Istruttivo . Grazie
Grazie per il tuo feedback
"Garage 54" did the same experiment with a Lada with a clear valve cover and oil filter, the oil filled the filter and reach the top of the heads before it motor even fired. so pre fill during a normal oil change is a waste of time. I would consider doing it on a motor that has been sitting a long time or major engine work
Yes, they did it very well. Several other UA-cam channels did this experiment. We are now constructing a separate installation for testing in different modes. And we revised the filter design. I think it takes two or three weeks to create. Thank you.
Most engine wear occurs during warm up , not start up.
Its a common mistake not differentiating between the two.
Its not the bearings or cams that generally wear out 1st on a motor. Its not the 3 or 4 second oil pressure delay at your bearings , wrist pins,timming gears or cams that happens every 5 to 15000km typicaly that determines engine life.
Unless something catastrophic happens its the rings and cylinder bore blowby that determines an engines life.Its during the warm up from ambiant to running temperature where the majority of wear takes place. So essentially pre filling an oil filter will not lengthen the life of the motor in any measurable way as the ring , cylinder bore is worn out predominately by the engine running from ambiant to opperating temperature.
Thats the reason stop start auto shutoff does not significantly shirten an engines life.
Heat cycles is the biggest factor if your oil is kept clean.
I pre fill my filters when possible, but I know its making little to no difference.
Thank you. It was interesting about stop-start
Вообще, по идее;
1) если фильтр устанавливается отверстиями вверх, почему бы сразу не залить в него масло?!...так делал мой дед и отец, так учили меня в технаре...ведь двигатель при пустом фильтре какое-то время будет крутить без давления в системе смазки, а как известно в момент запуска двс испытывает наибольшие нагрузки - думаю это не навредит двигателю
2) если фильтр устанавливается отверстиями вниз, то и заливать в него масло смысла нет...какое-то количество масла при установке фильтра, выйдет на ружу облив двигатель.
Как-то так 🤷🏻♂️
Interesting , thanks for making this...
Thanks for your feedback. Now we are assembling a setup for a similar test, only with a larger number of filters and in different versions. There will be in the future.
LOL I fully expected the oil shower and was not disappointed!😅
Never pre filled a filter and never had a problem. Have had several vehicles go over 250k and always change the oil every 3-5 K.
Aqui no Brasil colocamos até hoje óleo nos filtros.
После слива масла в трущихся парах остается много масла, ничего страшного не будет, если он несколько секунд поработает "насухую".
It's personal preference, nothing more. I've NEVER filled an oil filter and have a minivan with 189K miles with zero issues and a smallish SUV with 125K miles on the clock with zero issues.
Thing is, engines are never completely dry unless it's being filled for the first time at the factory, or you've been letting it sit for months to years.
I would tune the engine, before worrying about oil filter.
в современных двигателях также не рекомендуют прогревать авто перед поездкой и сразу гонят на высоких оборотах! А все для того чтобы владелец поменял авто через 2-3 года! всегда заливал и буду заливать масло в фильтр! и лишние пару минут на прогрев авто тоже выделю!
De acuerdo, pero mantener a ralentí el motor durante más de un minuto, especialmente en frío, tampoco es bueno: la gasolina no se evapora completamente y mancha las válvulas, y el aceite tarda demasiado en calentar. Lo ideal es iniciar la marcha progresivamente justo después de arrancar el motor. Dicho por un buen amigo y mejor mecánico. 😊😉
Прогрева нужен для расширения поршня и перекат поршня начнётся. Без нагрузки. @@carmelosierra5946
По факту пофигу заливать или нет, но на личном обыте(15 лет в автотехцентрах) лампа аварийного давления масла быстрее гаснет на пустом фильтре. А вообще даже за 10 минут работы на холостых без масла с мотором ничего не случится кроме пожалуй авто с гидронатяжителями и склонностью к перескоку цепи. А если по сути нет разницы то зачем морщить себе мозг и совершать лишние действия? Лично я даже уплотнитель не мажу. Открутил старый фильтр, закрутил новый, залил масло и готово. Гораздо важнее удостовериться что уплотнитель старого фильтра снялся вместе с ним, а не прилип на посадочном месте. Два кольца это бомба замедленного действия, может сразу рвануть фонтаном из под фильтра, а может и опосля.
З експеременту видно, що масдо попадає в фільтер відразу, без затримки. Я теж незаливаю масло в фільтер. Просто некупую дешеві фільтра і запускаю двигун на малих обертах. Я використовую масло 5w30. Якщо хтось використовує густе масло, наприклад 10w40, можливо є сенс.... Хоча ні, не варто заливати мастило в фільтер!!! Маю аргумент!!!
Sempre coloquei um pouquinho de óleo na montagem nunca tive problemas, lógico lubrificar também o anel de vedação e já era
preencheu rapidamente pois não estava selado como o filtro normal. Filtro deve ser cheio antes de se colocar.
Does oil belong in the filter? Yes!
When I pull the old filter, it is full, so I fill the new one and install it.
gostei desse experimento
Obrigado, faremos mais, levaremos em consideração todas as deficiências
With the "state of tune/condition of this engine, it probably has 30 psi, by the time the engine finally starts.
Молодцы ребята. получилось не плохо 😅
Спасибо 😊👍
Эксперимент лишь доказал, что на наполнение фильтра уходит время и это задерживает подачу масла в двигатель. Но наполнять лежащий фильтр и так никто не станет.
ну хотя бы на половину
Я в сааб 9⁵ наповнював фільтр і все було нормально. Так, під час прикручування трохи масла виливалося, оскільки він прикручується горизонтально, але зовсім трохи...
E determinante riempire il filtro dell' olio per velocizzare il processo di lubrificazione poiché nella accensione del motore si ha anche se per pochi secondi la mancata pressione dell' olio agli organi soggetti a logorio
It is impossible to prefill a Chrysler slant six, as the mounting face is positioned downward, and last time I checked, it is one of the longest lived most reliable engines in the world. My Chrysler B/RB/ HEMI has it horizontal, and my Cummins has it vertical. I will continue to fill them completely where possible, and partially where I can, if only because it’s easy to do and it seems completely rational, but not totally necessary.
My 2nd gen Toyota Tacoma V6 also has the filter on top of the engine facing down. That engine is also known for its legendary reliability and the filter obviously can't be prefilled either.
After watching the video, I think I should fill the oil instead? The starter motor immediately starts the oil pump, and you can see that it turns and the oil doesn't come up for quite a while.
Also, the oil seems to fill up quickly after that, but the oil won't pass inside that easily. If the filter is wet beforehand, the oil will pass through as soon as it fills.
Sounds like a Tune Up is due!! Engine doesn't want to stay running!😅 Add a little Motor Oil to the new Filter, and turn it 360° wetting the Filter Media. Compare that to a Dry Filter Element on start up! Faster Oil Pressure buildup, and Much Quiter upper end noise on start up! The Camshaft, and the whole Top End of the Engine won't be screaming for mercy, and Lubrication!! Dry Filter Element material takes a little time to saturate, and allow new oil to flow!! Dry Filter Element material is very restrictive, and resistant to flow causing noisy initial starts!😮Not Good!!😱😳😳😳😳🤔🤔🤔😉🙂
We are preparing an installation with an oil pump and an adapter for an oil filter where it will be possible to accurately reproduce the entire process with testing of all filters.
nice video, thanks 👍
Thanks for your feedback
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filtrelerin üzerinde 'takmadan önce yağ doldurunuz' diye bir uyarı gördünüz mü ? Yağ doldurmak daha iyidir ama zorunlu değildir bence.
Teşekkür ederim meslektaşım👍
Se è per questo Le case madri delle automobili ti dicono di sostituire l'olio ogni 30000 Km quando è altamente dimostrato che anche il migliore olio non mantiene le proprie caratteristiche dopo i 10000km,trai tu le conclusioni.
@fabrizio2694-ice Garanti süresi içerisinde böyle bir riski almazlar.
gracias!
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My old 6.5 Detroit takes so long to finally start when it's cold I have lots of oil pressure long before it even fires the first cylinder !!!
YOU DON'T NEED TO BUT BETTER IF YOU DO .
FIAT DOBLO (sound effect)🗣️
No Brasil ninguém troca o óleo do motor sem encher o filtro com óleo.
Ô Marcio , isso não passa de folclore , não tem diferença nenhuma eu nunca fiz isso em nenhum dos 17 carros que tive até hoje , quando o motor gira o filtro enche e a pressão se normaliza em segundos tanto que a luz do óleo se apaga quase instantaneamente , e na carcaça dos filtros não tem nenhuma advertência a respeito disso , inclusive no meu motor atual Etorq só o elemento é trocado e é montado por cima portanto tem que ser montado seco o que demonstra que não tem problema algum , isso pode até ser válido para grandes motores diesel como em locomotivas por exemplo onde a pressão do oleo demora para estabilizar , porem em motores automotivos é dispensável ( no motor Etorq não dá para fazer isso , então como é que fica?)
@@marcio8417
A jak jest filtr do góry nogami jak w 2.2 Crdi
Я не механік, коли заливав масло в фільтри, я помітив, що двигун менше шумить в перші секунди після запуску і менше вібрує, тому як невіглас я вважаю, що це хороша ідея залити фільтр, я ніколи не думав про це можливі пошкодження через перепад тиску, дякую за відео, привіт з Італії.
Дякуємо 👍Привіт з Києва
GREAT!!😉😉
Thank you
The only lesson I got here: do not cut your oil filter open.
Luckily for that car owner his engine is in a terrible state of tune and doesn’t start instantly. If it had started instantly you would hear the engine ticking until the filter filled. Always pre-fill your filter. It takes several small fills to let the oil soak through the filter media.
thanks for your opinion and experience
Да.это спорный вопрос. раньше залевал на жегулях.😊
Install clamps after tightening. May help.
Yes, you're right, it had to be done
I hope Igor wasn't the mechanic that tuned that car! It sounds like chitty chitty bang bang 🤣
No, Igor himself did not expect that it would start poorly 😊It turned out that the gasoline was bad.
Спасибо за информацию
Спасибо за просмотр видео. В будущем сделаем установку для теста в разных режимах.
Probably only got a couple pieces of metal into the filter when he cut it open.😮
I prefill the filter when I can, but not all cars allow it. My car has an upright paper cartridge filter design, so there's no way for me to fill it after a change. Maybe I could presoak it slightly .. but it probably won't make any difference in the long run.
Thanks for your opinion and experience
It took several seconds for the oil to pump through the filter media. It probably isn’t causing much wear but every little bit helps if you want to put 250,000 miles on an engine. Auto manufacturers have a lot of knowledge but they don’t want you to keep your car forever either 😂. I pre fill my oil filters. It doesn’t cost any more money so why not do it?
Without filling with oil, more volume of gas in the filter container will run to the engine.
A bigger issue is the hard starting problem. Customer needs to fix that, and maybe shorten the oil changed interval. The old oil was quite dark.
Not only oil change but and oil filter
And better oil quality
or maybe it was diesel 🤷🏻♂️
In this video in intro part oil filter must need to put oil on the oil filter 👍👍
Ternyata lebih baik tuangkan oli baru 3 oz dahulu. Pd filter oli baru
After filling, the oil does not return because there is a check valve.
Ottimo video! Ho una domanda. Come si può riempire un filtro messo in quella posizione?
Grazie per il tuo feedback Nel nostro centro assistenza auto nessuno versa olio nel filtro, tranne rarissime eccezioni. E se in questa situazione, allora non ha senso
You need to fill the oil filter with half oil so that the filter paper becomes wet
На фильтре purflux нарисованно залить масло в фильтр. Думаю если конструктивная особенность позволяет наполнить фильтр и установить не вылев содержимое, то это обязательно.
And what do you do when you find an upside down filter? You will not fill it because is impossible and so? Is fine however as well. So filling the oil filter is just an unnecessary action.
Можно было накрутить фильтр, а затем обжать хомутами. По поводу заливки масла в фильтр, так есть автомобили где фильтр стоит вертикально и не получится накрутить его с маслом внутри.
надо было, потом только поняли
@@poltergejst необязательно его полный наливать, грамм 200 в бумагу впитается и течь не будет, даже сливом вниз!
Need to sort out the tune more than change the oil !
Got you. Yes, I agree and we need to think about it. Thank you.
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De nada, obrigado por assistir o vídeo
A experiência mostra que ao tentar dar a partida, so na terceira vez que o filtro enche de oleo. Logo nessa partida apos trocar o filtro pode haver algum desgaste.
Porem a troca do filtro so acontece de tempos em tempos. Entao acredito que tanto faz encher o filtro de oleo ou nao. Ate por que o motor vai estar lubrificado por que foi acabado de despejado o oleo novo.
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common sense says yes. The oil filter takes up part of the capacity. Without a full filter the oil level will be low by that amount.
thanks for sharing your opinion
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Όταν γεμίζουμε το φίλτρο λαδιού πριν το τοποθετησουμε είναι καλύτερα=λιγότερη φθορά στον κινητήρα
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Секунды, без масла, страшный износ двигателя при запуске... А никто из вас не видел машины без поддона, работающие без смазки часами? Я вот видел, там рекламировали какие-то присадки к маслу, а весь секрет был в том, что время от времени мотор смазывался маслом из баночки, которую подносили к маслоприёмнику, он подхватывал оттуда грамммов 200-300 масла и этого хватало, повторялось это раз минут в 5.
If starting your car is that difficult, you have more to worry about than an oil filter.
Yo tengo un VALIANT 1962 y al cambiar aceite y filtro suelo desconectar el encendido .dar arranque hasta que tengo presion de aceite . Luego reconecto y listo. My car is VALIANT 1962 When oil and filter is changed unplugged ignition coil and start to oil pressure is up. Reconected and ready. Is other sistem to oil filter filling. Without spark pluggs is best. When is changed too.
Hoje existem filtros que ficam de cabeça para baixo, e ficam também de lado como no meu carro, impossibilitado encher o filtro de óleo! Meu carro tem mais de 300 mil quilômetros rodados, se fosse preciso encher o filtro acho que não chegaria tão longe.
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Yo tengo años de no llenar lo y no me a dañado nada ni a pasado nada
Попробуйте , для эксперимента, взять авто, где двс запускается с пол оборота)
Сделаем на тойоте или субару с двигателем fb20. Уже с надежными фильтрами🙂
Personal choice....but there is really no need. Dought any lube station does it.
Интересно пластиковые стяжки спасли бы эксперемент?
скорее всего помогли бы
If NOT filling your filter made any significant difference, the majority of vehicles would have had catastrophic failures before warranty had expired.
I have found that excessively meticulous maintenance compared with just replacing wear parts and keeping the fluids filled has not made a significant difference in the life of my daily driver vehicles.
The only difference is where I spent my money and time.
The “neglected” vehicles have lasted just as long as the “worshiped” vehicles with no significant difference in vehicle life or major component failure.
You can own your stuff, or your stuff can own you.
Эксперимент наглядно показал, что масло надо не заливать, а маслом надо поливать.
Quando o óleo é colocado no filtro, ele impede que o ar que entrou bomba e na passagem de óleo saia. É muito pior do que deixar o filtro vazio, pois demora para o ar sair e deixar o óleo circular.
Из этого ролика я понял только одно☝️Нельзя нечего мудрить.
А на счёт фильтра,то я более 30лет за рулём,а также иногда помогаю родным близким заменить масло и фельтра с ремнями,так вот я учился на автомеханика ещё в СССР и мастер нам говорил если хотите что бы фильтр не порвало свежим маслом(особенно летом,бумажный элемент пересохший и от резкого давления может скомкать и разорвать бумагу фильтрующюю, особенно если нет перепускного клапана)) так что всегда смачивали пропитывали маслом,даже бумажные прокладки,да и паранитовые с двух сторон смазывали либо маслом,либо салидолом,так что за 30слишним лет я заливаю в филтр масло,а если он с торца в верх ногами стоит 😅 и всё выльется,то всё равно заливаю масло пропитываю фильтрующий элемент,масло выливаю и прикручиваю фильтр,этоже логично то что будет постоянно жить и работать в масле нужно пропитать😅😅маслицем.
Спасибо, что поделились своим опытом
@opelservicekyiv от души и от чистого сердца,вам успехов и удачи‼️💯
Покажи мне масляную систему двс без перепускного клапана. Такая система не жизнеспособна так как в мороз например или при забитом фильтре гарантируется масляное голодание а так же разрыв фильтра и перегруз насоса. В любом двс есть редукционный и перепускной клапан(редукционный обычно на насосе, а перепускной в фильтре или его корпусе если фильтр в виде картриджа.)
@-Jahan- редукционный есть всегда,а вот перепускной который в фильтре не всегда.
Есть такие фильтра на которых нет перепускного,но сейчас это редко обычно они есть но раньше чаще встречались фильтра дешовые на них не было такого клапана.
@@Олег.Иванович Как можно порвать фильтрующую бумагу если масло прижимает ее к внутренней трубке через которую оно выходит? Масло заходит снаружи колбы и через бумагу заходит во внутреннюю трубку для выхода. Если бы было наоборот, то вероятность обрыва бумаги была бы высокая.
Гениально!!! Буду Английский учить 😊
Есть возможность сейчас смотреть это же видео на 8 языках: английский, испанский, итальянский, немецкий, португальский, русский, украинский, французский. Позже будет расширяться перечень языков. Это относительно новая функция UA-cam и система пока что не везде автоматически переключается. Необходимо зайти на видео, поставить на паузу, в верхнем правом углу "шестеренка-настройки", нажать и выбрать звуковую дорожку.
È come il caso del filtro del gasolio: riempirlo prima, lo spurgo dura meno ... idem per l'impianto di lubrificazione ..... 👍👽
Заливал, заливаю и буду заливать!!!!!
Yapılan test için teşekkürler, yağ değişimimde tümü boşaltılır. Sonra temizlemek için konulan yağ da tamamen boşaltılır. Test için yapılan filtre ve konulan yağ,Belki küçük motorlar bunu tolere edebilir. Yataklarda kalan yağlar aşınmaya engel olabilir. Ama büyük motor ve makineler için bu pek mümkün değil. Motorun üst bloguna yağın gelmesi hemen olmayacaktır. Filtredeki havanın atılması ve tüm sistemin yağlanması gecikecektir. Turbo yağsız kalabilir. Gemi makinelerinde önce yardımcı yağ pompası çalıştırılır. Sıkıştırma ve Ateşleme olmaması için piston test valfleri açılır. Ve volan bir motor yada mekanik olarak 2 tur çevirilir. Bu sayede tüm yataklara ve turboya kadar ön yağlama yapılır. Daha sonra start edilir. Yüksek devirli motorlarda örneğin motorsikletlerde daha da sorunlu olur.
İzlediğiniz ve incelediğiniz için teşekkürler.