Ok I will add a note on the "vlad isn't known for good damage" part, it was an inappropriate example as I was comparing him to kintoki who is the ceiling for many farming comps. However in that same image galatea outdamages her by about 100k who is definitely not a servant known for high damage, so my point stands.
I think there's an unfortunate habit of the FGO fanbase to horribly overhype new Servants with unique classes/abilities and then complain about "power creep." Draco is very good, but she has a lot of conditionals you need to hit for her to work at maximum effectiveness, as was pointed out in this video. We do sometimes get "power creep" like with Summer Ibuki vs. Summer Musashi, but that is generally not the norm for FGO. It was obvious in the case of Draco that the devs put a lot of thought into her.
Her append skill really good though, you got extra damage against caster which is quite big 30%. Why not bring rider? Well there's not many that can st loop, doing big damage against servant, and doing more damage against other class and murasakibu the only one with as similiar skill as her in a way.
It would just ruin the game when there are too much ultra strong characters there are still a lot of future characters that might get released and trying to overpower current servants would just make those guys irrelevant Of course the devs would balance things out. Both Tiamat and Draco are the newly released Beasts, Both still are pretty strong but both still has a few drawbacks here and there which is reasonable
@@morsayxd Thats doesn't matter at all with Ibuki's style tho. She either hits so hard its done in 3T or you use her as support and she dies in one hit. For everything else there is Castoria and now Merlin. I mean even Musashi has the dodge and gits but its once and her 3rd skill gives her even less survivability.
@@morsayxd Musashi is arguably better as a CQ unit (and even then, it's usually only going to matter if you can't damage rush the CQ), but she's worse at everything else. Everything else happens to be around 99% of the game.
Tho pretty sure Tiamat is the definition of meta tho? Her farming against cavalry is insane. So she's the reminder of meta, she just so happens to be waifu too
Her extra card could have also been an aoe card just like olga's one buster card. I don't think it would have been op but would have been a cool servant design
That's what really made me happy about the new servants. They're fresh and have interesting kits. With how bloated skill effects have gotten lately, especially for SSRs, I've felt like servants have gotten too samey so I'm glad that they still can innovate like this.
Shielder take and deal neutral damage against Beast class fyi. Honestly with the way FGO is handling Shielder class gameplay wise, I don't think we will ever see them releasing Galahad or any other servant viable for that class until they make FGO 2 unless the servant is a great farming support.
I just personally think that her NP effect should‘ve been universally against all 7 knight classes and not just servants because that‘s how she works in Arcade as well. Also, her cooldowns, coming from yours and Myst‘s extra servant tierlist I do fully agree that it should‘ve been 6/6/6 as well and not 7/6/7. Other than that she‘s one of the more balanced servants we got in recent times. Not to strong nor too weak. Imo kinda unbefitting for a beast of all things though
This very much is a case of them being overly cautious on a servant just because the class is new. We saw this with Abigail with Foreigners and how they had to buff Kiara, Lip and to a lesser extent Melt like 3 times EACH for Alter Ego debut trio. The one exception to this was Oberon and we all know how that turned out (ironically though he was broken for basically everything EXCEPT his class). I suspect later Beast servants won't come with a laundry list of "ifs and buts" on their skills now that we've seen the class doesn't inherently break the game.
her 30% crit up is actually 42% with passive. 50% isn't the norm, 30% is the norm. Also 42% is used by devs because you are going to use in class advantage only not in other case. So i think it is for balance purpose.
I am lacking in some 5☆ Servants in some classes in my Chaldea, I summoned Draco for some extra help, and her skills and NP kinda helps, with the Seven Knights Servants trait. I am in LB 6 now, so, I'll try to use her in bosses with some support. AC 3 is still blocked to me, since I'm not doing the event.. but, it is said that after the event, Draco will have a Saint Graph Unlock Quest, so I'm happy on using her in bosses, she is level 94, I will be very happy to have her at 100.
Yes you can unlock it after the event. However i highly suggest getting the anti roman command code for her that is in the event, it fixes her damage problem when she isn’t fighting servants.
I showed your NP1 damage comparison a days ago to the friends in gameFAQs, and they bring a lot's of valid points on why your take on that videos aren't factual: "He did kinda go too much into the "She would lose badly against Extra Classes and Non-Servants" but: - As a ST Servant, she has far less chances of falling into that trap than AOEs - Unless they REALLY start throwing Extra Classes at you, Draco won't fall into that issue due to the 7 Knights being far more prevalent - It's literally the same situation as Gilgamesh except she has a bigger fail niche than he does(Star Servants and Non-Servants vs. Non-Servants and Extra Classes) And Plushie obviously didn't include any Anti-Roman or Anti-Dragon buffs that Draco can absolutely exploit for even higher damage than Vlad or Galatea. Draco's biggest problem is basically those 2 but she ramps up stupid hard at NP2 and above even compared to Vlad and Galatea to the point that if I put my NP5 Vlad in the same situation as Plushie's NP5 Draco, Draco would utterly wreck his s*** in damage either way even with Interlude buffs when a Servant or her other Antis are in play." I bring this here since this video are still have the connection with the previous one Also no offense at all, but the way i see this, it looks like you just downplaying your fave char for the sake of fairness and balancing, while i can see why, it doesn't feels right Because let's be real, i have stumbled some of sites and never i have seen peoples overrated Draco in some extent, they even acknowledged her not being the ultimate meta units but still see her a very strong unit
Since her release, I've seen a lot of people in YT comment section arguing that she's the best ST servant in the game because of her technically double class advantage against the 7 standard classes.
@@bleach4k239 Just because of one site, doesn't mean you can generalized every community overrated Draco Even FGO Wiki, being the hell of earth are not overrated her as far i can recall
@@rezafahlevi9659 wikis are written by few people. While comments in YT aren't. They're written by different individuals. Also, could you name sites that review FGO servants. IIRC, only gamepress does that - and they rated Draco 10/10.
I think this analysis is put together very well and brings a lot of valid points. One thing I think that's worth noting about her S2 though, while likely not as relevant to a notable portion of the player-base, is that it's pretty good for TAs or just people wanting to shuffle through their supports. The skill block allows the enemy to use all their actions on attacking, rather than using one or 2 on a skill which would prevent them from killing your support (assuming you're running taunt CEs for instance). And while often the enemy np charge might seem like a demerit, sometimes an enemy NP-ing is the best way to cycle through some of your supports, like Castoria for instance who has a high HP pool. Survival in such comps for Draco usually isn't an issue as well, since as you've pointed out, Castoria can protect her like with S3 (even disregarding her NP), and often for CQs or boss fights, most will run her with a Castoria anyway. Additionally, while agreed on not being a practical choice for solos, she could be fun for solos in Grail Fronts (assuming JP gets more of them)
I think you hit the nail on the head here. Although I never really expected her to be anything but a niche coverage for the seven classes so its not a big deal to me, a lot of people will and do expect way too much from her. It does not matter much to me because she is a Nero and I will NP5 a Nero and also I dont have any of the single target berserkers, but its good to temper the expectations a bit for people that overhyped her. Good take.
"Vlad isn't known for his high damage" Vlad is pretty much the hardest hitting ST arts Servant in general scenarios 💀 Only SErice, Galatea, Luvia and Kriemhild can hit for similar numbers among the competition, and they smoke all the main class arts Servants in terms of damage. Vlad is chaotic evil to boot so he can work with Douman somewhat, and his NP generating stars offsets his problem with zerker star weight to a degree
Well, to be fair, as a day 1 player it took me a while to associate vlad with high damage. Vlad used to be know for his spam able np, but low damage. It took him 3 upgrade to reach his current number anyway
Vlad also has received numerous upgrades over the years, Draco is new, and like most new servants they got to wait a little bit before they receive any improvements to their kits. But yeah...comparing her to Vlad is a bit unfair imo.
@@ShiraFuyu2022 it does in conjunction with other tools. Use Xu Fu's NP, Vlad is now practically guaranteed to crit. Double 2030, same thing. You can also overcharge the amount of stars with say, Castoria's or Crane's NP. It's not enough on it's own, but it helps a lot
I dunno; in a game about having as many servants as you can to cover as many niches/situations as you can, it doesn't make much sense to me to compare her against something her niche is just simply *not* made for.
I also think that releasing a class that is weak to extra classes when the next arc is about dealing with extra classes(there will be definitely a lot of extra class bosses) is funny lol
@@Kaaaii bb:I caught me a senpai Me:more like I caught a kohai(hugs bb) Bb:(blush) no senpai stop it. Stop being nice. Be dense like every other protagonist Me:never. I think with the brain in my heart and pants
The things i wonder. Her having a Heal Amp is like her having an Empty Gun while a Skill Seal with giving enemy Charge is basically trying to put a fire out with a Kerosene. I know Supports exist but having the Supports exist to impeove her gameplay and not being her crutch would be more welcome imo
I'd still pull for her, just because she is a unique servant class for now at least until we get more Beast servants. Same reason as I am pulling for Archetype: Earth.
I am looking forward to her as I plan to pair her with romulus quirinus, bodica, and constantine. My hope is for high burst damage with constantine providing survivability to the mostly roman team
Draco herself does not worry me. Its the purpose of the class what does. As we have seen many times before, DW/Lasagna would release "busted" Servants but limit them within what was considered the power ceiling at the time, only to go back on that and add something more broken later. Like how the early AoE Berserkers had BBBAQ decks with Quick NPs and 2 of them had a stun demerit. Fast forward years later and we have Summer Ibuki. So it becomes worrying when they add a class that is effectively an upgrade to Berserkers in most cases.
if vlad with very high np damage mod isn't the hardest hitting np damage dealer. Then, who is the stronger hitting one man. if he is average. then, most of the st arts servant hit like noodle.
@@PlushieMistress I didn't make this point to say that draco hits harder. Her damage is definetly average for berserkers type of damage dealer. Although her damage is good against servants from seven classes.
I guess this is closer to my take on her, though a little harsher than I would go. But I know how much Plushie values min turning/solos and hyper offensive playstyles so I get it. And it's certainly way closer to my take than the initial "OMG broken servant" take some had. I do think Draco's tankiness has a little more value than I think Plushie does as sometimes you do need to take hits, especially against AoE spammy fights. That's not meant to be a knock. We all see the game from our own perspective. While I would agree she is better for younger accounts since there are fewer extra class servants early on, I wouldn't discount her either just because I had say Vlad or Kriemhild (and my hot take is Summer Erice is approaching one of the game's most overrated servants even after she was maybe my second most used servant during LB7 after Bazett. I do not consider her as good as Luvia for example, and she collapses against debuff immune servants). I like to have a lot of options for CQs/bosses rather than throwing my eggs into say one NP5 120 servant as the devs sometimes seem to target certain comps to counter. Anyway, I wouldn't let this discourage anyone who likes her look and is thinking about summoning her just because she's not a Vlad killer. Just keep in mind what she is. Thanks for the hot take!
I do really like her but I will say that due to her class affinity she is probably one of the more niche Servants in the game. How good she will be going forward depends entirely on what kind of enemies the devs throw at us going forward. If they decide to bombard us with extra classes like what happened in LB7, there are going to be some sad Umus sulking on the benches. I can think of several things she is lacking that she could get in a potential future buff if they put in other servants that do what she does better, kinda like what happened with Abby. If she gets hard defense, sustain, buster and/or arts up or NP damage up she is going to become considerably more powerful. I will also say that I think that Tamamo might work pretty well with Draco as a support. She gives sustain that benefits from Draco's heal up, all her damage buffs scale multiplicatively with what Draco already has unlike Castoria and proto Merlin who both give attack up and she can shorten some of Draco's long cooldowns in a longer fight.
@@PlushieMistress The only supports I have are XuFu, Koyan, Oberon and Lady Avalon. Dunno if I should consider Calamity Jane and Summer Wu as supports.
I know some folks will get upset at me saying this, but really I wish they'd kept the Arcade design, I'd have overlooked some of her flaws if so. But I'm glad people are enjoying her.
Me watching this video: So this is good, this is good, this is good....just about everything is good. Oh she doesn't do ridonk damage against non servant types, and she's weak against extra classes. Hmm So she's still good all around and hasn't received any upgrades yet, which it's likely she will in the future? Sweet. Sounds like a strong servant to me! Sure she isn't overpowered and game breaking, but honestly I think there has been maybe 5 releases that did break/alter the game. Merlin, Skadi, Castoria, Vitch, and Oberon are the game breaking servants that they added. Even crazy loopers like Spishtar, or stronk characters like Arjuna Alter don't really break the game at all. The thing that all the game breaking servants have in common is support. I don't see any primary damage dealer being overpowered beyond belief that they can handle the entire game by themselves in any scenario. Especially a servant with 0 upgrades in their kit.
@@PlushieMistress Yeah there isn't really a damage dealer in the game that is overpowered or gamebreaking imo. So in that since that is true. Though I do believe she is a good servant, and a single target to boot which is rare now adays, with them adding aoe loopers every two seconds. Hopefully in the future they give her maybe an NP buff to help with damage. I think that is really what she is missing. But obviously she's brand new, so it will be some months.
what i got from this is: shes balanced thats all lasagna said screw powercreep and just made a extremely good balanced servant. also theres 1 correction at the start you said "heavily implied shes the only beast class" however in the stream revealing her, Sakura Tange tricks 2san into admitting there will be more beast classes coming in the future, i forget the time stamp since its been months but you can go back and get confirmation 2san even has the classic oh shit i fucked up face hes had in the past, its also the only shred of hope cameltoe fans have of him ever being a servant lol
Even if she isnt as good as she could have been i will no doubt be summoning when she comes out on NA simply because i absolutely adore her 3rd and Final ascension's and because Umu is Umu
hope you ready for the smoke lol , such is the fate , peoples expressing their op have to face 😆 , but dont back down , it is just a game and arguing isnt inherently negative as long peoples keep it clean
Objectively the best class in the game with excellent damage mods. No she is not overrated lmao. Not pulling for her though. Not my waifu. The CC will be added to the Da Vinci shop eventually too.
Id still rather stick with vladd because he is grandpa material and he finally has his np buff making his damage way better than before along with berzerkers being good against basically all classes
Another video where basically everyone but you is wrong about the servants they want to roll for because nearly every video can be just literally 10 seconds of you saying the exact same things about how most of not all the servants are overrated by whatever odd standard you're using even though servants like Chen Gong and Oberon fit the bill in that argument
Ok so my reasonings in a nutshell 1.Can’t deal with extra class 2.out damaged by most zerks when not fighting servants 3. Slow and clunky skillset I didn’t even say she was trash I just dont think she is the end all be all omni dps which i see many call her. Also like she would be lucky if her use case is 10% as common as oberon
@@PlushieMistressliterally the 2 first point arent really relevant , her not being able deal with extra class isnt a weakness , she wasnt built to deal with them in the first place and that is honestly greedy to count it as a weakness as if dealing effective dmg against seven classes wasnt enough , plus you are talking like extra classes are the standard classes we runing into , second point you again mentionning how she deals less dmg against non servant enemies than some berserker when those are 95% of the time fodders and most of the serious threat are servants so she will eclipse them berserkers anyway when it matters and without mentionning the roma command code , i dont know what you mean by slow skillset , clunky isnt a fair description since it synergize perfectly with her stats and her class. I think you are trying too hard to find weakness in this unit when there is only arguably 1 or 2 which is the lack of survival and arguably long cd
She is still a beast, or at least retained the beast class spirit origin so she can prove that she can love humanity without forsaking the evil of humanity within her
Overrated is always such a frustrating complaint. Everyone has their own standards and preferences. And honestly they tend to "rate" characters just fine according to how they feel about them.
@@PlushieMistress even if she is not , she is still very close to , due to her class , her stat and her skillset , the only thing holding her back is her lack of survival. Anyway who do you think is the best st servant
@@morsayxd I'd say the best all-rounder is probably Luvia due to how stupidly strong she is in all regards... If not her, then probably SErice or Kriemhild depending on context. If talking about main classes, then probably Ozy? I can't think of any main class Servant that compares besides Enkidu. Kama and KH are a bit behind due to their class holding them back, and a trash NP in King Hassan's case
@@kun2588 he only has the best damage. His skillset isn't that strong and he is extremely reliant on Vitch to carry him. His skillset is poor and suffers from bad buff uptime, with his NP and 50% charge being the main things that make him noteworthy. He has zero survival, bad NP gain, mediocre CQ utility, weak crit potential and more. He is only the strongest blitz oriented ST buster attacked when supported by Vitch and Oberon, and even then all he provides is damage so he faces problems when the CQ in question has annoying gimmicks. He can't play into the long term at all so he has to pray that he has enough firepower to finish the fight quickly, else he is a one-and-done Servant that NPs, breaks a bar and is promptly killed leading for a backup dps to do the rest. His main usage, and the place where he actually shines, is as a ST plug dps for 90++ or 90+ nodes when trying to do 6CE farming. He is strong, but he isn't the best ST Servant, period
Once again a great waifu held back by her class and once again a much wanted class has been ruined. I mean whats the point of the beast class when we have Berserkers?
"Held back by her class"? My guy, she has the best class in the game. The main advantage over berserkers is that she takes half damage from all 7 classes
@@memoryofsalem4474 We have foreigners who resist berserkers and we have berserkers who kill anything except foreigners and this new beast class which I might add are weak against extra classes. It's not that she's bad it's the fact that her class is redundant with the existence of berserkers that kill almost everything and foreigners that kill anything that berserkers can't. She'll be amazing for newer players but like the alter ego and pretender class eventually she will see barely any use.
Pretty much everything about her design is mid to upper-mid. Mid kit mechanically, mid visual design, upper-mid np animation (in execution, anyways, the concept is fine). Which is disappointing for a Beast that has been teased and hyped for years and is hypothetically the ultimate culmination of one of the most glamorous, flamboyant, and (literally) extra Fate characters.
And here we have a clown appeared outta nowhere I have some of disagreement with this video but at least i'm (and the others) way more respectful than you
???? She's literally one of the strongest playable Beasts, and her gameplay is both fun and unique. What did you want, another sad alter ego AoE arts looper that isn't going to amount to anything like Rasputin, who despite all of his hype is almost not used because he is suboptimal relative to the actual universal farmers?
Ok I will add a note on the "vlad isn't known for good damage" part, it was an inappropriate example as I was comparing him to kintoki who is the ceiling for many farming comps. However in that same image galatea outdamages her by about 100k who is definitely not a servant known for high damage, so my point stands.
I think there's an unfortunate habit of the FGO fanbase to horribly overhype new Servants with unique classes/abilities and then complain about "power creep." Draco is very good, but she has a lot of conditionals you need to hit for her to work at maximum effectiveness, as was pointed out in this video.
We do sometimes get "power creep" like with Summer Ibuki vs. Summer Musashi, but that is generally not the norm for FGO. It was obvious in the case of Draco that the devs put a lot of thought into her.
Her append skill really good though, you got extra damage against caster which is quite big 30%. Why not bring rider? Well there's not many that can st loop, doing big damage against servant, and doing more damage against other class and murasakibu the only one with as similiar skill as her in a way.
It would just ruin the game when there are too much ultra strong characters there are still a lot of future characters that might get released and trying to overpower current servants would just make those guys irrelevant
Of course the devs would balance things out. Both Tiamat and Draco are the newly released Beasts, Both still are pretty strong but both still has a few drawbacks here and there which is reasonable
Musashi is better than ibuki tho , ibuki has 0 survavibility nor durability and as a berserker it is a big yikes
@@morsayxd Thats doesn't matter at all with Ibuki's style tho. She either hits so hard its done in 3T or you use her as support and she dies in one hit. For everything else there is Castoria and now Merlin. I mean even Musashi has the dodge and gits but its once and her 3rd skill gives her even less survivability.
@@morsayxd Musashi is arguably better as a CQ unit (and even then, it's usually only going to matter if you can't damage rush the CQ), but she's worse at everything else. Everything else happens to be around 99% of the game.
Draco and Tiamat are the servants that reminded me of sometimes it is waifu over meta. Draco ❤️❤️
Tho pretty sure Tiamat is the definition of meta tho? Her farming against cavalry is insane. So she's the reminder of meta, she just so happens to be waifu too
replace tiamat with avenger nobu because nobu is the definition of waifu over meta
@@gyrozeppeli00nobu is actually pretty nuts against sky divine now
also nigga the fuck, tiamat reminded you of waifu over meta?
@@gyrozeppeli00 after the buffs nobu has one of the highest damages in looping she is actually a lot underestimated
My only complaint is that it is an absolute crime that they didn’t give her a 6 hit extra card, seeing as she’s Beast 666
Her extra card could have also been an aoe card just like olga's one buster card. I don't think it would have been op but would have been a cool servant design
Tough she is indeed lacking in some area like survivability, i think draco has been one of the most fun unit i've ever use from these past years
That's what really made me happy about the new servants. They're fresh and have interesting kits. With how bloated skill effects have gotten lately, especially for SSRs, I've felt like servants have gotten too samey so I'm glad that they still can innovate like this.
I am so sorry about the huge delay, another mismanagement with schedule on my part. I will try to do better next time.
If you dont do better the other time face reveal as punishment 🤨😠🤨😠🤨
Pd: Read face as feet
It's no problem, this is free content after all, I am just happy this got released!
You're in college now, right? People should be grateful you even have time to make content on weekdays.
Keep up the great work!
Please make sure to also rest properly, health is important
If there is an event like Grail font, she will be free to go wild because Grail font has a lot of seven knight servant classes
I think the event Grail Front got completely eliminated in game, there won’t be another one
Yeah but you don’t really get to use extra classes until the last few days most of the time
@@ihate.promax1140 who said that?
@@iamthestormthatisapproaching69 i don’t remember who but I saw someone mention it on Twitter
Grail Fronts tend to be doable with pretty much anyone if you try hard enough.
Shielder take and deal neutral damage against Beast class fyi. Honestly with the way FGO is handling Shielder class gameplay wise, I don't think we will ever see them releasing Galahad or any other servant viable for that class until they make FGO 2 unless the servant is a great farming support.
True i didn’t mention it since its just mash but thanks for pointing it out.
Mash does have an append that gives her bonus against all Extra classes... including beasts
I just personally think that her NP effect should‘ve been universally against all 7 knight classes and not just servants because that‘s how she works in Arcade as well. Also, her cooldowns, coming from yours and Myst‘s extra servant tierlist I do fully agree that it should‘ve been 6/6/6 as well and not 7/6/7.
Other than that she‘s one of the more balanced servants we got in recent times. Not to strong nor too weak.
Imo kinda unbefitting for a beast of all things though
This very much is a case of them being overly cautious on a servant just because the class is new. We saw this with Abigail with Foreigners and how they had to buff Kiara, Lip and to a lesser extent Melt like 3 times EACH for Alter Ego debut trio. The one exception to this was Oberon and we all know how that turned out (ironically though he was broken for basically everything EXCEPT his class).
I suspect later Beast servants won't come with a laundry list of "ifs and buts" on their skills now that we've seen the class doesn't inherently break the game.
her 30% crit up is actually 42% with passive. 50% isn't the norm, 30% is the norm. Also 42% is used by devs because you are going to use in class advantage only not in other case. So i think it is for balance purpose.
Great job on the colab with Myst. Your opinion was gold on those tier lists. I hope you guys do it again next year. Keep up the good work!
I am lacking in some 5☆ Servants in some classes in my Chaldea, I summoned Draco for some extra help, and her skills and NP kinda helps, with the Seven Knights Servants trait. I am in LB 6 now, so, I'll try to use her in bosses with some support. AC 3 is still blocked to me, since I'm not doing the event.. but, it is said that after the event, Draco will have a Saint Graph Unlock Quest, so I'm happy on using her in bosses, she is level 94, I will be very happy to have her at 100.
Yes you can unlock it after the event. However i highly suggest getting the anti roman command code for her that is in the event, it fixes her damage problem when she isn’t fighting servants.
@@PlushieMistress CC on the buster card to increase odds or what?
@@MoreEvilThanYahweh it doesn’t matter
@@MoreEvilThanYahweh buster card is ideal
@@amari7782 it does, for CQs or bossfights. Putting it on arts is awful, as you'd want to use arts cards _after_ NP
I showed your NP1 damage comparison a days ago to the friends in gameFAQs, and they bring a lot's of valid points on why your take on that videos aren't factual:
"He did kinda go too much into the "She would lose badly against Extra Classes and Non-Servants" but:
- As a ST Servant, she has far less chances of falling into that trap than AOEs
- Unless they REALLY start throwing Extra Classes at you, Draco won't fall into that issue due to the 7 Knights being far more prevalent
- It's literally the same situation as Gilgamesh except she has a bigger fail niche than he does(Star Servants and Non-Servants vs. Non-Servants and Extra Classes)
And Plushie obviously didn't include any Anti-Roman or Anti-Dragon buffs that Draco can absolutely exploit for even higher damage than Vlad or Galatea.
Draco's biggest problem is basically those 2 but she ramps up stupid hard at NP2 and above even compared to Vlad and Galatea to the point that if I put my NP5 Vlad in the same situation as Plushie's NP5 Draco, Draco would utterly wreck his s*** in damage either way even with Interlude buffs when a Servant or her other Antis are in play."
I bring this here since this video are still have the connection with the previous one
Also no offense at all, but the way i see this, it looks like you just downplaying your fave char for the sake of fairness and balancing, while i can see why, it doesn't feels right
Because let's be real, i have stumbled some of sites and never i have seen peoples overrated Draco in some extent, they even acknowledged her not being the ultimate meta units but still see her a very strong unit
Since her release, I've seen a lot of people in YT comment section arguing that she's the best ST servant in the game because of her technically double class advantage against the 7 standard classes.
@@bleach4k239 Just because of one site, doesn't mean you can generalized every community overrated Draco
Even FGO Wiki, being the hell of earth are not overrated her as far i can recall
@@rezafahlevi9659 wikis are written by few people.
While comments in YT aren't. They're written by different individuals.
Also, could you name sites that review FGO servants.
IIRC, only gamepress does that - and they rated Draco 10/10.
@@bleach4k239 My point still stand, you can't generalized every communities in FGO overrated Draco just because of one big site (yt)
@@rezafahlevi9659 your point don't stand on anything unless you mention sites that review FGO servants other than Gamepress.
I'm getting Beast Nero not because of meta but because of the Summoning animation and her ascension 3. Holy moly it looks epic.
I think this analysis is put together very well and brings a lot of valid points. One thing I think that's worth noting about her S2 though, while likely not as relevant to a notable portion of the player-base, is that it's pretty good for TAs or just people wanting to shuffle through their supports. The skill block allows the enemy to use all their actions on attacking, rather than using one or 2 on a skill which would prevent them from killing your support (assuming you're running taunt CEs for instance).
And while often the enemy np charge might seem like a demerit, sometimes an enemy NP-ing is the best way to cycle through some of your supports, like Castoria for instance who has a high HP pool. Survival in such comps for Draco usually isn't an issue as well, since as you've pointed out, Castoria can protect her like with S3 (even disregarding her NP), and often for CQs or boss fights, most will run her with a Castoria anyway.
Additionally, while agreed on not being a practical choice for solos, she could be fun for solos in Grail Fronts (assuming JP gets more of them)
I think you hit the nail on the head here. Although I never really expected her to be anything but a niche coverage for the seven classes so its not a big deal to me, a lot of people will and do expect way too much from her. It does not matter much to me because she is a Nero and I will NP5 a Nero and also I dont have any of the single target berserkers, but its good to temper the expectations a bit for people that overhyped her. Good take.
0:12 A class that should not be playable to begin with. So why Tiamat ain't a Beast class as well?
Because Beast Tiamat is kinda braindead so she has to be non beast to act normally
"Vlad isn't known for his high damage"
Vlad is pretty much the hardest hitting ST arts Servant in general scenarios 💀
Only SErice, Galatea, Luvia and Kriemhild can hit for similar numbers among the competition, and they smoke all the main class arts Servants in terms of damage.
Vlad is chaotic evil to boot so he can work with Douman somewhat, and his NP generating stars offsets his problem with zerker star weight to a degree
This genuinely made me pause. Plushie, wtf?
Well, to be fair, as a day 1 player it took me a while to associate vlad with high damage. Vlad used to be know for his spam able np, but low damage. It took him 3 upgrade to reach his current number anyway
Vlad also has received numerous upgrades over the years, Draco is new, and like most new servants they got to wait a little bit before they receive any improvements to their kits. But yeah...comparing her to Vlad is a bit unfair imo.
That 20 Stars won't do much even if you pair him with Casters unless you can put a Star Absorb of a 1000% at the bare minimum on him
@@ShiraFuyu2022 it does in conjunction with other tools. Use Xu Fu's NP, Vlad is now practically guaranteed to crit. Double 2030, same thing. You can also overcharge the amount of stars with say, Castoria's or Crane's NP. It's not enough on it's own, but it helps a lot
I dunno; in a game about having as many servants as you can to cover as many niches/situations as you can, it doesn't make much sense to me to compare her against something her niche is just simply *not* made for.
I also think that releasing a class that is weak to extra classes when the next arc is about dealing with extra classes(there will be definitely a lot of extra class bosses) is funny lol
>the next arc is about dealing with extra classes(there will be definitely a lot of extra class bosses)
Source: just trust me
@@AnarchyMitsukai funny how it ended up with almost 0
If plushie goes missing. Every Nero profile is a suspect. Or Elizabeth.
Strike that. Anyone who read extra and ccc......so nobody
Hii, Extra and CCC reader here.
@@luciebarathlone730 suspect number one returning to the scene of the crime. Where is plushie? He's been missing for over 30 seconds now.
for someone who's about to be trap in the moon cell, you sure do remind me of sherlock.
@@Kaaaii bb:I caught me a senpai
Me:more like I caught a kohai(hugs bb)
Bb:(blush) no senpai stop it. Stop being nice. Be dense like every other protagonist
Me:never. I think with the brain in my heart and pants
Lmao
They could have made Draco have permanent Grail status when grailed.
Bro the ways she is so smug in thay NP while holding her sword is enough reason to pull 😂
Plushie in Myst's video: "Allllriiight"
"ah shit here we go again"
The things i wonder. Her having a Heal Amp is like her having an Empty Gun while a Skill Seal with giving enemy Charge is basically trying to put a fire out with a Kerosene. I know Supports exist but having the Supports exist to impeove her gameplay and not being her crutch would be more welcome imo
She's criminally nerfed from what she's supposed to be
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She's one of the strongest playable Beasts, gameplay wise.
@@Founder_of_Morgans_Fanclub i mean, she is literally the only Beast right now.....😂😂
@@etherios5673 he meant on a lore perspective not litteraly , kiara and kama are both beasts but they got stripped away from their powers as sich
I hope she get some strengthning in survivability department, I got her to np 2 and I wish she didn't die from stray crit lol
I'd still pull for her, just because she is a unique servant class for now at least until we get more Beast servants.
Same reason as I am pulling for Archetype: Earth.
I am looking forward to her as I plan to pair her with romulus quirinus, bodica, and constantine. My hope is for high burst damage with constantine providing survivability to the mostly roman team
Draco herself does not worry me. Its the purpose of the class what does. As we have seen many times before, DW/Lasagna would release "busted" Servants but limit them within what was considered the power ceiling at the time, only to go back on that and add something more broken later.
Like how the early AoE Berserkers had BBBAQ decks with Quick NPs and 2 of them had a stun demerit. Fast forward years later and we have Summer Ibuki.
So it becomes worrying when they add a class that is effectively an upgrade to Berserkers in most cases.
15:28 that is why i say
She needs at least deal neutral at least for alter ego/pretender or both
She’s not the best, but she’s good. I think she’s a well thought out unit and I will use her where I can cause I am in love with that third ascension
if vlad with very high np damage mod isn't the hardest hitting np damage dealer. Then, who is the stronger hitting one man. if he is average. then, most of the st arts servant hit like noodle.
perhaps that was a bad example but in that image you can see she also loses to galatea, who is definitely not known for good damage.
@@PlushieMistress I didn't make this point to say that draco hits harder. Her damage is definetly average for berserkers type of damage dealer. Although her damage is good against servants from seven classes.
I guess this is closer to my take on her, though a little harsher than I would go. But I know how much Plushie values min turning/solos and hyper offensive playstyles so I get it. And it's certainly way closer to my take than the initial "OMG broken servant" take some had. I do think Draco's tankiness has a little more value than I think Plushie does as sometimes you do need to take hits, especially against AoE spammy fights. That's not meant to be a knock. We all see the game from our own perspective.
While I would agree she is better for younger accounts since there are fewer extra class servants early on, I wouldn't discount her either just because I had say Vlad or Kriemhild (and my hot take is Summer Erice is approaching one of the game's most overrated servants even after she was maybe my second most used servant during LB7 after Bazett. I do not consider her as good as Luvia for example, and she collapses against debuff immune servants). I like to have a lot of options for CQs/bosses rather than throwing my eggs into say one NP5 120 servant as the devs sometimes seem to target certain comps to counter. Anyway, I wouldn't let this discourage anyone who likes her look and is thinking about summoning her just because she's not a Vlad killer. Just keep in mind what she is. Thanks for the hot take!
I do really like her but I will say that due to her class affinity she is probably one of the more niche Servants in the game. How good she will be going forward depends entirely on what kind of enemies the devs throw at us going forward. If they decide to bombard us with extra classes like what happened in LB7, there are going to be some sad Umus sulking on the benches.
I can think of several things she is lacking that she could get in a potential future buff if they put in other servants that do what she does better, kinda like what happened with Abby. If she gets hard defense, sustain, buster and/or arts up or NP damage up she is going to become considerably more powerful.
I will also say that I think that Tamamo might work pretty well with Draco as a support. She gives sustain that benefits from Draco's heal up, all her damage buffs scale multiplicatively with what Draco already has unlike Castoria and proto Merlin who both give attack up and she can shorten some of Draco's long cooldowns in a longer fight.
Will she help me clear Cerunnos at NP1 without my own castoria?
Uhh if you have debuff clear supports i can see that happening (preferably asclepius but xufu might work.)
@@PlushieMistress The only supports I have are XuFu, Koyan, Oberon and Lady Avalon. Dunno if I should consider Calamity Jane and Summer Wu as supports.
@@_dxksh lady avalon should work fine then just spam castoria np for cleanse
@@PlushieMistress When to spam it though? Like Turn 3 or 4? Also could she clear it with double Vitch / Castoria Oberon setup?
I know some folks will get upset at me saying this, but really I wish they'd kept the Arcade design, I'd have overlooked some of her flaws if so. But I'm glad people are enjoying her.
"command code: Roman(derogatory)"
Me watching this video: So this is good, this is good, this is good....just about everything is good. Oh she doesn't do ridonk damage against non servant types, and she's weak against extra classes. Hmm So she's still good all around and hasn't received any upgrades yet, which it's likely she will in the future? Sweet. Sounds like a strong servant to me!
Sure she isn't overpowered and game breaking, but honestly I think there has been maybe 5 releases that did break/alter the game. Merlin, Skadi, Castoria, Vitch, and Oberon are the game breaking servants that they added. Even crazy loopers like Spishtar, or stronk characters like Arjuna Alter don't really break the game at all. The thing that all the game breaking servants have in common is support. I don't see any primary damage dealer being overpowered beyond belief that they can handle the entire game by themselves in any scenario. Especially a servant with 0 upgrades in their kit.
not overpowered and not gamebreaking is why i said she was overrated bc it was stated by many others ive watched that she is
@@PlushieMistress Yeah there isn't really a damage dealer in the game that is overpowered or gamebreaking imo. So in that since that is true. Though I do believe she is a good servant, and a single target to boot which is rare now adays, with them adding aoe loopers every two seconds.
Hopefully in the future they give her maybe an NP buff to help with damage. I think that is really what she is missing. But obviously she's brand new, so it will be some months.
what i got from this is:
shes balanced thats all
lasagna said screw powercreep and just made a extremely good balanced servant.
also theres 1 correction at the start you said "heavily implied shes the only beast class"
however in the stream revealing her, Sakura Tange tricks 2san into admitting there will be more beast classes coming in the future, i forget the time stamp since its been months but you can go back and get confirmation 2san even has the classic oh shit i fucked up face hes had in the past, its also the only shred of hope cameltoe fans have of him ever being a servant lol
Decent is a better word for her skills than 'mid'.
Decent means average and mid also means average, what does it matter?
Grailed Boudica Just for her so i have a good Arts support.
i prefer level 1 boudica actually but yeah
@@PlushieMistress
Boudica avenger when 🤣🙆
@@PlushieMistressThere is Someone with a level 120 Jekyll end Hyde in my friends list should I fear him or be in awe.
@@ferrucciocaracciuolo8139Go "Awwww"
Ik everyone says this but ik she's not too strong or weak which i dont think we get much off which i love and dont mind
let's goooo it's finally out
Even if she isnt as good as she could have been i will no doubt be summoning when she comes out on NA simply because i absolutely adore her 3rd and Final ascension's and because Umu is Umu
Pair her with boudica she provides everything for draco.
I JUST WANNA SEE HER SUMMON ANIMATION BUT ALL I GET IS THE 5 STAR CE
Draco beast class so must roll either way or wait for other beast TwT
She fits the aesthetic that gets servants grailed in my chaldea
BANG BANG BANG PULL MY DEVIL TRIGGER
the real question is: is she any good in Grail Front?
Grail front is an extremely easly game mode so yeah but so does most other servants
Bro anyone with ssr stats and triple buster deck negs diff grail front XD , maou for example is disgusting in it
Its DevilMayUmu. Imma roll regardless.
The mythical hot take is here 👀
Wait does Draco has the same pose as Barghest?
Probably she is overrated, but i get her in my new jp account, and man, she is helping me so much
Even if she's not the most meta i'm still gonna pull for her when she comes to NA
A must. Umu is life
Would You recommend going for her or Kukulkán in NA?
hope you ready for the smoke lol , such is the fate , peoples expressing their op have to face 😆 , but dont back down , it is just a game and arguing isnt inherently negative as long peoples keep it clean
DRACUSSY 🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵🥵
Draco my beloved! 🎉
Objectively the best class in the game with excellent damage mods. No she is not overrated lmao.
Not pulling for her though. Not my waifu.
The CC will be added to the Da Vinci shop eventually too.
overrated tho.
It took 660 SQ for NP1, Draco thinks she's hilarious
Id still rather stick with vladd because he is grandpa material and he finally has his np buff making his damage way better than before along with berzerkers being good against basically all classes
I love Umu as much as Ushi in every universe
I don't understand what you mean about removing castorias from 90++ farming. I thought she was the best support for 90++, why would i remove her?
"A bit" is being generous, if I'm being honest
Galatea sweep
Cursed arm with holding grail status😂
Nero, roll.
Another video where basically everyone but you is wrong about the servants they want to roll for because nearly every video can be just literally 10 seconds of you saying the exact same things about how most of not all the servants are overrated by whatever odd standard you're using even though servants like Chen Gong and Oberon fit the bill in that argument
wat?
Ok so my reasonings in a nutshell
1.Can’t deal with extra class
2.out damaged by most zerks when not fighting servants
3. Slow and clunky skillset
I didn’t even say she was trash I just dont think she is the end all be all omni dps which i see many call her. Also like she would be lucky if her use case is 10% as common as oberon
@@PlushieMistress I feel like point 1 and 2 aren't that much of an issues especially if you looked my comments where i bring some of my homie points
@@PlushieMistressliterally the 2 first point arent really relevant , her not being able deal with extra class isnt a weakness , she wasnt built to deal with them in the first place and that is honestly greedy to count it as a weakness as if dealing effective dmg against seven classes wasnt enough , plus you are talking like extra classes are the standard classes we runing into , second point you again mentionning how she deals less dmg against non servant enemies than some berserker when those are 95% of the time fodders and most of the serious threat are servants so she will eclipse them berserkers anyway when it matters and without mentionning the roma command code , i dont know what you mean by slow skillset , clunky isnt a fair description since it synergize perfectly with her stats and her class.
I think you are trying too hard to find weakness in this unit when there is only arguably 1 or 2 which is the lack of survival and arguably long cd
Plushie... how do you want to die?
imma still take her once she's on NA
My main queation is, whose idea was it to give her a 3 buster, 1 arts deck? Why not 2 buster, 2 arts to let her do arts brave chains with her np?
yep. they are adequately strong. definitely NOT the game-changing/meta-defining strong fans make them out to be.
kintoki hits on the same level as vlad not very high at all in it's peak. normally he hits far less than vlad actually.
is np 1 draco are good ?
From np2 she starts to get good like most servants.
Does draco having disadvantage against all extra classes means that Mash can benefit of this benefit for the first time on her life?
nope mash dont count i think lol
Real
If overrated, why hot?
My biggest gripe is the for me huge let down of ascension 3.. instead of mother harlot we get nobu mk ii..
Coming here from Myst. Time to see how savage you are on Draco now that Myst isn't here XD
She’s just Draco lol she’s not a beast unless she’s mother harlot, she’s just Nero Saber/Berserker with a Beast Look lol
She is still a beast, or at least retained the beast class spirit origin so she can prove that she can love humanity without forsaking the evil of humanity within her
Kama beast whennnnnn😭😭🫠
wowowowow
Based Plushie take
TBH
why tho
how i feel about draco? second ascension is SEEEEEEGGGGGGGS
I tend to like draco as a character, plus another nero thats always a good thing, and her cool animations. Not much of a meta person myself
Don't like her loli form but....her adult form is cool as hell
I like Berserker II
Overrated is always such a frustrating complaint. Everyone has their own standards and preferences. And honestly they tend to "rate" characters just fine according to how they feel about them.
Yes i only say that because of how much “best ST in the game” talk i see which I disagree with
@@PlushieMistress even if she is not , she is still very close to , due to her class , her stat and her skillset , the only thing holding her back is her lack of survival.
Anyway who do you think is the best st servant
@@morsayxd I'd say the best all-rounder is probably Luvia due to how stupidly strong she is in all regards... If not her, then probably SErice or Kriemhild depending on context.
If talking about main classes, then probably Ozy? I can't think of any main class Servant that compares besides Enkidu. Kama and KH are a bit behind due to their class holding them back, and a trash NP in King Hassan's case
@@Founder_of_Morgans_Fanclub Kintoki is the best ST Servant.
@@kun2588 he only has the best damage. His skillset isn't that strong and he is extremely reliant on Vitch to carry him. His skillset is poor and suffers from bad buff uptime, with his NP and 50% charge being the main things that make him noteworthy. He has zero survival, bad NP gain, mediocre CQ utility, weak crit potential and more.
He is only the strongest blitz oriented ST buster attacked when supported by Vitch and Oberon, and even then all he provides is damage so he faces problems when the CQ in question has annoying gimmicks. He can't play into the long term at all so he has to pray that he has enough firepower to finish the fight quickly, else he is a one-and-done Servant that NPs, breaks a bar and is promptly killed leading for a backup dps to do the rest.
His main usage, and the place where he actually shines, is as a ST plug dps for 90++ or 90+ nodes when trying to do 6CE farming.
He is strong, but he isn't the best ST Servant, period
First Plushie hot take I agree with
Once again a great waifu held back by her class and once again a much wanted class has been ruined.
I mean whats the point of the beast class when we have Berserkers?
"Held back by her class"? My guy, she has the best class in the game. The main advantage over berserkers is that she takes half damage from all 7 classes
@@memoryofsalem4474 We have foreigners who resist berserkers and we have berserkers who kill anything except foreigners and this new beast class which I might add are weak against extra classes.
It's not that she's bad it's the fact that her class is redundant with the existence of berserkers that kill almost everything and foreigners that kill anything that berserkers can't.
She'll be amazing for newer players but like the alter ego and pretender class eventually she will see barely any use.
Outside her event
She's death
And yet Tiamat is better.
Pretty much everything about her design is mid to upper-mid. Mid kit mechanically, mid visual design, upper-mid np animation (in execution, anyways, the concept is fine). Which is disappointing for a Beast that has been teased and hyped for years and is hypothetically the ultimate culmination of one of the most glamorous, flamboyant, and (literally) extra Fate characters.
Eh i like her design alot so no comment but gameplay wise she is more fun than broken which is nice imo
And here we have a clown appeared outta nowhere
I have some of disagreement with this video but at least i'm (and the others) way more respectful than you
She was not made for ya , as simple as that , for me she is what a busted unit looks like
@@rezafahlevi9659 Not an argument.
???? She's literally one of the strongest playable Beasts, and her gameplay is both fun and unique. What did you want, another sad alter ego AoE arts looper that isn't going to amount to anything like Rasputin, who despite all of his hype is almost not used because he is suboptimal relative to the actual universal farmers?
Evil loli Umu is bad civilization.
I’m sticking to Tiamommy and Cu Lily
First
The 3rd ascenssion is ugly
I prefer the arcade one
I prefer the arcade one as well but i still find this one beautiful