You can also speed up the loading times, when you have loaded an instrument and then click on the disk at the top, choose batch re-save, choose your folder of the current library instrument and press ok, make sure you choose the right folder, so far I haven't had any problems with this, but the loading times are much faster than before!
This would be an excellent video topic. It totally fixes slow load times. - just did this with Analog Brass and Winds because the load time was terrible. Output recommends this on their website.
aside re-save, you can put library with separated single articulation available on HDD, while stuff like Grandeur or the Orchestra in this example; they're All-In-One type of patch with 1-2gb+ sample load, you should put them on SSD, where you don't have option to only load a single articulation/the only sound you need.
Would it make a difference in performance once it has loaded. Will it be lagging or glitchy? Or is it only slow for the load up? Thank you! Great Video!!
I think that, apart from the "purge" option (I believe it's used to clear out stuff in RAM and only re-load as you use samples from the instrument - essentially only loading the necessary, so it uses more of the disk), by default everything is loaded into your RAM, so there shouldn't be a difference. If there is a performance issue I'd probably check CPU usage (top right corner) and if that isn't it, it could be faulty RAM, which isn't detected as easily on Kontakt itself - you would need to test it yourself using MemTest or other software.
With me I have a FL Studio template saved with Nexus 2, Sylenth1, and couple other go to VSTs, along with Kontakt routed using MIDI outs with 10 go to expansions saved, I let everything load up while I grab a drink, go to the rest room etc.., then I'm in business, I'm using a four of My Book HDDS that are 5+ years old and everything is still decent granted I use mostly third party expansions that are more focus to electronic/hip-hop music
I have been looking for the last week about SSD vs. HHD and for the 1.5 terabytes of Kontakt expansions and 1 terabyte of audio/MIDI packs I need at least 3 terabyte drive as most drives will not let you write the HHD full, and the new HDD are so small now compared to these huge bricks I have now and don't need to be plugged to a power socket, no Brainer once price comes into play
yep,an SSD is certainly much faster then a HDD,but there are also other factors in play,like did you use a HDD with 5000 rpm or 7200 rpm speed,did you do a re-save for these libraries,is youre SSD sata II 6Gb or sata III 10Gb, or is the SSD an PCIe MVMe drive?
I also you HDD. But I use pedagogical (jugaad) approach. I use light weight expand library to compose my musical idea, then I load kontakt liabrary patch, copy midi tracks make necessary articulations and render it into wave file. I use reaper for midi and audio music so I apply fx stereo offline it renders midi to audio, but midi file stays as a take behind audio item, and I can flip it any time. Then I offload all sampler data from ram ( reaper has special commands for that ) and this way even if i am working from hdd my session loads faster...
theres a program called primo cache supposedly it allows you to use Ram to cache files... im curious would that have any beneficial use in the loading of kontakt instruments? I cannot find any tests out there relevant to kontakt and if its viable for giving another boost in load times!!??
Just installed my libraries from HHD journalier to SSD ExFAT (samsungT7) and still works slow like HHD, any advise? I use macbook pro 2016 icore5, 8 giga RAM, bigsur. Thank you
can i use an ssd to transferer my ableton work from windows pc and ableton to an ipad usb c 2020 model - are they class compliant - this problem is hard to find a solution for thanks
@@oddfellow8366 No, that's wrong. You want the library on an SSD (even if that means the plug-ins & library are on the same drive if you only have one SSD to work with). That's the whole point of this video: he's loading the library off an SSD to demonstrate how much quicker it is than HDD. Ideally, you want 2 SSDs: one for OS/apps/plug-ins and the 2nd exclusively for libraries.
@@EricFraire if your ssd gets filled up with your libraries, you'll experience performance issues. The ideal situation would be 1 SSD for The plugins, and another SSD for the libraries, but if you don't have 2 ssds, or one large enough SSD, loading libraries on HDD and plugins on SSD won't be as fast, but more reliable.
Question... would an external SSD be bottlenecked by usb 3.0? I have an ssd as my main C drive, but I only have USB 3.0, wondering if an external SSD connected via USB 3.0 would be bottlenecked, and if so, if might as well go HDD since the SSD would be bottlenecked anyway.
They're not too bad today, under $200, this is what I use amzn.to/3pvAlTo down to $170. Grab an external encloser and you're good to go. Though you could get a 12TB HDD for the same price 😲 I'm looking forward to the day WiFi is fast enough to store everything in the cloud. Imagine not having to install ANY of these giant libraries on your laptop. Just buy it, log in to your account through Kontakt, and the sounds are just there. #RemindMeInFiveYears
Nice.. Question, when loading empty Kontakt vsti for the first time after the pc turned on, does using SSD makes any difference? Only loading the plugin, not the library
Depends if your OS (C:Drive) and other programs (ie. DAW and VSTs [Kontakt]) are also on the SSD. If everything is SSD based, it will load faster - if the whole system is HDD based, it all takes a little longer.
@@BenoniStudio thanks, another question maybe you know the answer. I have a port USB-C on my laptop how i'm sure is not only for a second screen and that i will really benefit of a extenal ssd USB-C hard drive ? Thanks
Daw on ssd= opening program faster Kontakt on ssd= opening kontakt faster libraries on ssd= opening libraries faster all on ssd= your project goes much faster at all
@@sunnysunshine8897 no trust me it’s not. My projects would take 30-40 minutes to load up on hdd. Loads up in less than 2 minutes on ssd. Compounding all the time I would spend opening up projects, I’ve saved much more money by spending money upfront and freeing up time since then.
The SSD I'm testing in this video was installed internally. You should be able to use a USB hub for an external drive if you can't install one internally. Depending on the drive, you may need a powered hub.
You can also speed up the loading times, when you have loaded an instrument and then click on the disk at the top, choose batch re-save, choose your folder of the current library instrument and press ok,
make sure you choose the right folder, so far I haven't had any problems with this, but the loading times are much faster than before!
This would be an excellent video topic. It totally fixes slow load times. - just did this with Analog Brass and Winds because the load time was terrible. Output recommends this on their website.
Perfect voice for a monster truck event.
SUNDAY, SUNDAY, SUNDAY! 🛻
aside re-save, you can put library with separated single articulation available on HDD, while stuff like Grandeur or the Orchestra in this example; they're All-In-One type of patch with 1-2gb+ sample load, you should put them on SSD, where you don't have option to only load a single articulation/the only sound you need.
Just found your channel after watching your Nvidia Quadro FX 4600 video from 2013! I found one on ebay for only $2! I hope it works!
Would it make a difference in performance once it has loaded. Will it be lagging or glitchy? Or is it only slow for the load up? Thank you! Great Video!!
I think that, apart from the "purge" option (I believe it's used to clear out stuff in RAM and only re-load as you use samples from the instrument - essentially only loading the necessary, so it uses more of the disk), by default everything is loaded into your RAM, so there shouldn't be a difference.
If there is a performance issue I'd probably check CPU usage (top right corner) and if that isn't it, it could be faulty RAM, which isn't detected as easily on Kontakt itself - you would need to test it yourself using MemTest or other software.
With me I have a FL Studio template saved with Nexus 2, Sylenth1, and couple other go to VSTs,
along with Kontakt routed using MIDI outs with 10 go to expansions saved,
I let everything load up while I grab a drink, go to the rest room etc.., then I'm in business, I'm using a four of My Book HDDS that are 5+ years old and everything is still decent granted I use mostly third party expansions that are more focus to electronic/hip-hop music
I have been looking for the last week about SSD vs. HHD and for the 1.5 terabytes of Kontakt expansions and 1 terabyte of audio/MIDI packs I need at least 3 terabyte drive as most drives will not let you write the HHD full, and the new HDD are so small now compared to these huge bricks I have now and don't need to be plugged to a power socket, no Brainer once price comes into play
Your last two videos are awesome. Good job!!!!!
Exactly what I needed! Thanks!
yep,an SSD is certainly much faster then a HDD,but there are also other factors in play,like did you use a HDD with 5000 rpm or 7200 rpm speed,did you do a re-save for these libraries,is youre SSD sata II 6Gb or sata III 10Gb, or is the SSD an PCIe MVMe drive?
To bad that "Benoni" doesn't answer any of these comments...maybe a tip for him, to disable comments for his videos!
Thanks brother it really helped me alot....I cannot buy SSD due to my current financial condition but I will soon....thankyouu soo much❤️
I also you HDD. But I use pedagogical (jugaad) approach. I use light weight expand library to compose my musical idea, then I load kontakt liabrary patch, copy midi tracks make necessary articulations and render it into wave file. I use reaper for midi and audio music so I apply fx stereo offline it renders midi to audio, but midi file stays as a take behind audio item, and I can flip it any time. Then I offload all sampler data from ram ( reaper has special commands for that ) and this way even if i am working from hdd my session loads faster...
Excellent video. Super helpful! Thanks a tonn
Excellent comparison!
The hard disk is what i call a significant bottleneck to RAM. You should test M.2 PCIe NVMe.
well but i need an adapter... any experience by chance?
theres a program called primo cache supposedly it allows you to use Ram to cache files... im curious would that have any beneficial use in the loading of kontakt instruments? I cannot find any tests out there relevant to kontakt and if its viable for giving another boost in load times!!??
Man I was searching a comparison like this!
Just installed my libraries from HHD journalier to SSD ExFAT (samsungT7) and still works slow like HHD, any advise?
I use macbook pro 2016 icore5, 8 giga RAM, bigsur. Thank you
Yes. The problem is ExFat. You have to change the format because ExFast is not recommended for Kontakt .
@@lisandropidrewhat is should be?
@@davidazzoraputra8408any of Mac formats. (Apfs, Mac OS Plus, etc)
Does it make a difference with RAM speed?
can i use an ssd to transferer my ableton work from windows pc and ableton to an ipad usb c 2020 model - are they class compliant - this problem is hard to find a solution for thanks
shoudl I save all my ableton projects and kontakt instrumets - off the pc on an ssd ? what must be left on the hard drive of the pc
Thanks for the 😊. Life savior
does it make sense the format HDD drive to APFS format to get faster speed or macOs Journaled ?
Great speed test!
Internal or external ssd USB 3??
Bro,
Your voice is EPIC during the video! LOL
Dayum.... Great Video
How about playback? Especially when running 60 off one drive?
Hell-o. did you install kontakt to the same ssd, you do you just use ssd for library place?
Not sure what he did, but you usually want to install the plugin on the ssd, and the library on the HDD if those are your options
@@oddfellow8366 No, that's wrong. You want the library on an SSD (even if that means the plug-ins & library are on the same drive if you only have one SSD to work with).
That's the whole point of this video: he's loading the library off an SSD to demonstrate how much quicker it is than HDD.
Ideally, you want 2 SSDs: one for OS/apps/plug-ins and the 2nd exclusively for libraries.
@@EricFraire if your ssd gets filled up with your libraries, you'll experience performance issues. The ideal situation would be 1 SSD for The plugins, and another SSD for the libraries, but if you don't have 2 ssds, or one large enough SSD, loading libraries on HDD and plugins on SSD won't be as fast, but more reliable.
That's a big difference!
Huge.
So keep the library on sad? Or install Kontakt on it
Library/Sounds. Kontakt and all apps will still be installed to the OS drive, which is C: for Windows.
Are they external or internal disk ? Thank you :)
Internal SATA III connection.
The tone of your voice is like Cory Taylor
Much like Cory Taylor I spent my 20's screaming into a microphone 🤣
my ssd is running out of space, so a few secs may not be a problem
By the time you load stuff inspirations and ideas are gone. Perhaps komplete is more for when your idea is solidified ?
nice support
Thankyou
pls test with nvme
great content
When playing my string samples my ssd seems to chock with red showing …then I have to wait for a few sections
Question... would an external SSD be bottlenecked by usb 3.0? I have an ssd as my main C drive, but I only have USB 3.0, wondering if an external SSD connected via USB 3.0 would be bottlenecked, and if so, if might as well go HDD since the SSD would be bottlenecked anyway.
That is an interesting question. Lots of variables, but I would still go with the SSD over USB 3.
@@BenoniStudio safe bet... it's just 2tb SSD's are expensive as hell lol. Thanks for your Insight though.
They're not too bad today, under $200, this is what I use amzn.to/3pvAlTo down to $170. Grab an external encloser and you're good to go. Though you could get a 12TB HDD for the same price 😲 I'm looking forward to the day WiFi is fast enough to store everything in the cloud.
Imagine not having to install ANY of these giant libraries on your laptop. Just buy it, log in to your account through Kontakt, and the sounds are just there. #RemindMeInFiveYears
Nice.. Question, when loading empty Kontakt vsti for the first time after the pc turned on, does using SSD makes any difference? Only loading the plugin, not the library
Depends if your OS (C:Drive) and other programs (ie. DAW and VSTs [Kontakt]) are also on the SSD. If everything is SSD based, it will load faster - if the whole system is HDD based, it all takes a little longer.
Is it the same results for external hard drives ? Thanks
External HDD is probably slower unless you are using e-SATA or Thunderbolt.
@@BenoniStudio thanks, another question maybe you know the answer. I have a port USB-C on my laptop how i'm sure is not only for a second screen and that i will really benefit of a extenal ssd USB-C hard drive ? Thanks
The hard disk is what i call a significant bottleneck to RAM. You should test M.2 PCIe NVMe.👍👍👍
is this with batch re-save?
No. This is straight, open Kontakt and load from HDD.
Move all the libraries to SSD as is.
Open Kontakt and load.
Does it work with M.2 SSD?..
Sure. A M2 NVME would be even faster than SATA as well.
20 Sec for Grandeur?? WTF hard drive are you using??
Are you a DJ?
Do I need to have my daw and/or kontact sample player to see the boost? Or just the sample libraries?
Daw on ssd= opening program faster
Kontakt on ssd= opening kontakt faster
libraries on ssd= opening libraries faster
all on ssd= your project goes much faster at all
Imagine with a M2.ssd
Use an HDD if you don't value your time.
But Money = Time, so spending less money is still saving time
I'll have a template setup in Fl Studio go grab a snack while my Kontakt rack loads up all my expansions, along with Nexus, Sylenth1, and my drumkit
@@sunnysunshine8897 no trust me it’s not. My projects would take 30-40 minutes to load up on hdd. Loads up in less than 2 minutes on ssd. Compounding all the time I would spend opening up projects, I’ve saved much more money by spending money upfront and freeing up time since then.
@@tavaresmanuel3523 Hm, that's good to know!
Gee it’s faster... big surprise
worst "radio voice" ever...
cake horn
Would the SSd still work if it’s connected through a usb splitter, cause I have no more available usb connections on my Labtop
The SSD I'm testing in this video was installed internally. You should be able to use a USB hub for an external drive if you can't install one internally. Depending on the drive, you may need a powered hub.
I had an hdd connected to an usb spliter and when I connected it directly to my computer it was a lot faster