I'm not surprised these performed similarly. These two have somewhat similar chemical formulation. Only difference being Dark Fury is a Caustic Sodium Hydroxide based degreaser. Both use similar emulsifiers and both have similar solvents. Just a matter of preference when it comes to what kind of cleaner you're wanting. Dark Fury is a very basic degreaser that yes does a good job breaking down oils & organic compounds (bugs, tar etc) but doesn't offer the same wetting & surface clinging properties as Brake Buster. Meaning you're losing out on the solvents actually dwelling properly to loosen up the compounds within the wheels/tires, Along with surface protection from damage via scratching. And obviously Brake Buster offers the bonus of providing surface corrosion protection for future cleanings.
I like to mix a tiny bit of car shampoo in with my dark fury to help it stick more. I haven't done a comparison with and without, so maybe it's only in my head.
Makes sense, great thinking. Another example, people definitely like to add an apc or something to a foam cannon for pre washes usually to help give their soap a bigger punch when needed. Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
Both are great options, but I’d consider Dark Fury if you’re looking for the more aggressive choice. The browning you’re likely seeing is actually the anti-ozonant-a protective chemical in the tire that turns brown when it rises to the surface. Trying to aggressively remove it can shorten the tire’s lifespan because that compound helps protect against premature cracking from UV rays and ozone exposure. Just an FYI if you’re interested. Great question, and thanks for watching!
@ actually i shouldve clarified. My tires get brown cause of desert trails. Thanks for the advice and the knowledge i cant get in college! I picked up some dark fury and it worked pretty good.
Curious if you were going to use agitation on either test. What would you use afterwards if there is still brake dust or bugs? Contact wash with regular soap? Dedicated bug remover for the second test and a microfiber, or perhaps even clay mitt?
Yep you can just use a regular soap in a bucket contact wash afterwords. Like in the video, I actually use a Rinseless wash dampened microfiber towel that way I can see all the brake dust I might miss with soap all over the wheel instead. If it’s coming off too difficult, respray the chemical and clean with your dampened brush/Microfiber(whichever safe option you prefer) with the chemical on there. Just don’t let it dry on the surface obviously. For the bug guts, it depends on your plan of action based on the condition of the vehicle and how long the bugs have been on there. Whenever possible, I like to just wash the vehicle with a high quality ph neutral soap and see if that and the jersey bug scrubber by the rag company works to remove it. If you know that won’t work without scrubbing hard, save time and simply pre-treat the affected areas with your bug gut cleaner of choice then before it drys, follow up with your regular contact wash(foam the car first if you like) and use the jersey bug scrubber by the rag company. Keep in mind, these alkaline cleaners can strip waxes and sealants, so be prepared to reapply protection potentially if you use them. You should only need to use a light clay bar decon every 3-6 months. Yes, it will pick up any remaining bits and pieces of bugs. Hope this helps, great question and thanks for watching!
Thanks for the great information. Curious why you would choose p&s for safety over dark fury? I'm considering both products and would like to know more. Thanks!
Absolutely, and thanks for the question! P&S Brake Buster is less harsh than Dark Fury, and using gentler chemicals on your vehicle can help preserve its finish over time. For regular maintenance or as a first step on dirty wheels, I start with Brake Buster, then move to Dark Fury if needed. If those don’t do the trick, I use a stronger option like Superior Products Wire Wheel Cleaner(Wheel acid). All three are great for professionals to have on hand, but if you’re just maintaining your own car and staying on top of it, Brake Buster is likely all you need!
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I'm not surprised these performed similarly. These two have somewhat similar chemical formulation. Only difference being Dark Fury is a Caustic Sodium Hydroxide based degreaser. Both use similar emulsifiers and both have similar solvents. Just a matter of preference when it comes to what kind of cleaner you're wanting. Dark Fury is a very basic degreaser that yes does a good job breaking down oils & organic compounds (bugs, tar etc) but doesn't offer the same wetting & surface clinging properties as Brake Buster. Meaning you're losing out on the solvents actually dwelling properly to loosen up the compounds within the wheels/tires, Along with surface protection from damage via scratching. And obviously Brake Buster offers the bonus of providing surface corrosion protection for future cleanings.
I appreciate your detailed information and feedback and thanks for watching!
Really liked that you put the cardboard!!!!
I appreciate your positive feedback, and I’m glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!
I like to mix a tiny bit of car shampoo in with my dark fury to help it stick more. I haven't done a comparison with and without, so maybe it's only in my head.
Makes sense, great thinking. Another example, people definitely like to add an apc or something to a foam cannon for pre washes usually to help give their soap a bigger punch when needed. Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
Thanks for the tip, I just bought some superior products. When you say car shampoo, do you mean just any car washing soap such as a foam canon soap?
Dark fury and formula are an arsenal in any diy detailer 👍
Thanks for watching!
Whicg one is good for brown tires?
Both are great options, but I’d consider Dark Fury if you’re looking for the more aggressive choice. The browning you’re likely seeing is actually the anti-ozonant-a protective chemical in the tire that turns brown when it rises to the surface. Trying to aggressively remove it can shorten the tire’s lifespan because that compound helps protect against premature cracking from UV rays and ozone exposure. Just an FYI if you’re interested. Great question, and thanks for watching!
@ actually i shouldve clarified. My tires get brown cause of desert trails. Thanks for the advice and the knowledge i cant get in college!
I picked up some dark fury and it worked pretty good.
@ Oh I see, well Im glad it worked out. You’re welcome for the info!
Came so clean!
Yes it did, thanks for watching!
Curious if you were going to use agitation on either test. What would you use afterwards if there is still brake dust or bugs? Contact wash with regular soap? Dedicated bug remover for the second test and a microfiber, or perhaps even clay mitt?
Yep you can just use a regular soap in a bucket contact wash afterwords. Like in the video, I actually use a Rinseless wash dampened microfiber towel that way I can see all the brake dust I might miss with soap all over the wheel instead. If it’s coming off too difficult, respray the chemical and clean with your dampened brush/Microfiber(whichever safe option you prefer) with the chemical on there. Just don’t let it dry on the surface obviously.
For the bug guts, it depends on your plan of action based on the condition of the vehicle and how long the bugs have been on there. Whenever possible, I like to just wash the vehicle with a high quality ph neutral soap and see if that and the jersey bug scrubber by the rag company works to remove it.
If you know that won’t work without scrubbing hard, save time and simply pre-treat the affected areas with your bug gut cleaner of choice then before it drys, follow up with your regular contact wash(foam the car first if you like) and use the jersey bug scrubber by the rag company.
Keep in mind, these alkaline cleaners can strip waxes and sealants, so be prepared to reapply protection potentially if you use them.
You should only need to use a light clay bar decon every 3-6 months. Yes, it will pick up any remaining bits and pieces of bugs.
Hope this helps, great question and thanks for watching!
Thanks for the great information. Curious why you would choose p&s for safety over dark fury? I'm considering both products and would like to know more. Thanks!
Absolutely, and thanks for the question! P&S Brake Buster is less harsh than Dark Fury, and using gentler chemicals on your vehicle can help preserve its finish over time. For regular maintenance or as a first step on dirty wheels, I start with Brake Buster, then move to Dark Fury if needed. If those don’t do the trick, I use a stronger option like Superior Products Wire Wheel Cleaner(Wheel acid). All three are great for professionals to have on hand, but if you’re just maintaining your own car and staying on top of it, Brake Buster is likely all you need!
@@highlandsautodetailing thanks for your insight!
Doesn’t Superior Products recommends 4:1 for wheels and tires?
Yes it does, it’s the only dilution ratio mentioned in the instructions on the bottle.
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