@@joederp5940 I liked the passive heal mechanic from Reach, but in infinite, honestly there isn't much to try to change the elites hp/shield mechanics
At this point, yeah I think it is too much to ask. 343 have spent the last 2-3 games making this blatantly apparent. They don't care for fans that don't blindly agree with everything that 343 does. They even sick the "pro gamer" shill squad on you to let you know that if you want Sangheili back then you're opinion is in the minority so it's not important. They only care about making Halo into diet-Call of Duty, and focusing on ridiculous Multiplayer competitive selling points. Top that off with taking out features that have been there since CE, like armor customization, and then take a look at their abhorrent lack of any story-telling skill, etc. The list of "Why 343 is incompetent" just keeps going, like the Energizer bunny. 343 has always had their own vision for the franchise, and if you don't agree with their vision, you are not a priority for them.
YES!!!! The perfect chance to really capture the true scale of Halo battles! We’ve got the engines and tech to do it! Mass amounts of vechicles, hundreds of players and NPC’s all fighting like hell over objectives or territory to win.
Completely agree with this. I think playable elites were a staple for halo ever since their introduction. I’m just confused on why 343 doesn’t want to introduce them, when they could very easily monetize them. They could have an elite core, where you could purchase elite armor and coatings or whatever, along with being able to customize banished weapons like how you can with UNSC ones, lol. I don’t quite understand 343’s reasoning that halo is a “spartan story”, when there is so much more to the halo universe, lol.
@@youtubedeletedmynamewhybotherIt's pathetic to think about, Microsoft's most recognized IP has an equivalent budget of 5 bucks. I love both Sony and Microsoft games, but man. Microsoft seems to really not want to stand out, like at all. Halo as an IP has just been dragged through mud. Gears of War has seen similar muted reception. It just oozes corporate to me, lack of passion to make art but make a quick buck
If anything, Gears of war got an even shitter end of the stick. They fu cked the franchise and let it rot. Atleast they feed Halo some adrenaline here and there to resuscitate its corpse to endure more torture. @@JuiceboxCE
The biggest issue I think is that Elites lack of presence stems from the fact that Atriox's forces are largely made up of his fellow Brutes and scoundrel Kig-Yar looking for bounties. Any Elites, Grunts, and Hunters that are tagging along are purely hired mercenary corps who don't really care for allying with Brutes, but have no choice. But what I'm more confused about is; knowing that Cortana was hot locking planets down, why didn't Arbiter even send even a handful of his Sangheili warriors that were ok with dealing with humans long term when Infinity left Sangheilios' orbit? Most of them of course would want to stay close to Arbiter because of their drive to fight and die for him, but I can imagine a few would want to be where the fight is, knowing none was coming to Sangheilios.
I really want to see playable elites come back with a ton a cosmetics like some human made armor for elites and elite made armor for Spartans I think that would be awesome to see them with the each others aesthetics.
I'm pretty sure back in Halo Reach they actually did do a system where they banned elites from rank and the bulk of matchmaking. They solved this issue literally a decade ago, like you said before. Like, you could have playable elites in custom games if you enabled a certain setting, but public matchmaking and especially ranked just flat out banned them. If not just having things like "Elite Slayer," or "Elite Swat," etc.
Something that makes it even weirder that Elites are missing is that I'm fairly certain it's stated in the lore that post Halo 3, the UNSC and covenant remnants that sided with humanity do train together. The Halo multiplayer at this point is meant to be simulations and war games, but the Elites are missing even though they're supposed to train with the Spartans. Hell they could even make that work with the ranked/unranked lobbies being separate things. Unranked lobbies are the general training and recreation with everyone involved, ranked only includes Spartans because it's there to test them and find out whose the best or in other words, to rank them.
if halo can make shrimishes like squad where theres differnet classes that would be amazing. like for the unsc you can have a certain amout of spartans but also have diff classes like odst and marines. same for the banshied have a certain about of elites brutes grunts and prob 2 hunters, would make the game feel different
*I’m incredibly happy with the direction Infinite is finally heading in…if we can get Firefight, Playable Elites/Brutes, and CAMPAIGN DLC. Most of the Halo Fans will come charging back to get back into the fight.*
Hear me out a battlefield type halo where you play as marines v covenant and Spartans odsts and mechs can be unsc special units that you can unlock via kills/xp gain and the covenant can have hunters jet pack brutes and maby drones I know there's a weird prophet spartan equivalent so throw them in there too
Somebody needs to remind 343i that Elites have been playable in in the majority of Bungie Halo games. This isn't some weird, niche thing that Bungie tried out and then decided was a bad idea, but that the fandom latched onto. Seriously, unless I'm mistaken somewhere, the _only_ Halo game produced under Bungie's tenure where you couldn't play as the Elites in some way is Halo:CE.
They should do a "ranked" core that is only used in rank that's super bare bones, that way 343 can add elites and any other core that could be unbalanced and not have to worry about the ranked scene
If they add other species based armor cores, I think it would be sick if they had different attributes. Ex: Playable Skirmishers are super fast but don't do a lot of melee damage.
Now I hope for it since Season 5 is going to give us things we've been asking for since forever, and it's only the beginning and hopefully after Season 5, we'll get more things we want. Including Elites.
Elites would take more work to implement than robots, with robots they can easily move over spartan armors to the robot model, hell the robot core and spartan core would probably use the same exact base modular model so that they WOULDNT have to adapt much to have spartan armors. While the MP Spartan Model is/was created as a modular model so that they can swap armors easy, the elite model would have to be converted to the same type of modular model so that they can then cut up the armor models to make them modular. while I would like to have the Elites, as well as Robots(iffy on these), and even Brutes added, they are focused on entirely different things.... However, They could easily balance out the races if people cry about hitboxes for heads and such by just adding racial passives and diversify health/shield stats between them as well as making the different weapon damage types do more/less damage to flesh or shields. Brutes- +25Hp, -25Shields(with lower recharge rate) Spartan- Base HP/Base Shield(better shield recharge delay timer, faster recharge/use of equipment) Elite- -25%hp, +25%Shield(higher recharge rate) Plasma- +25% damage to Flesh, -25% to Shield Kinetic- Base/Base (with better reload and fire rates) Energy- +25% damage to Shield, -25 to Flesh I personally like the idea of not giving Humanity a better or worse stat on their guns or resistances an like to give them the utility bonuses. this would shake up the sandbox so that people would seek out weapons that would make them gain an advantage over players using different races, and would make it so just using one weapon like a BR or something to win all situations wouldn't be as dominant.
I hope that, if infinite multiplayer keeps the 10 year schedule, one day they realize an elite spin off game, even in outsorcing, and in that moment they add playable elites
Honestly I feel like the lack of elites is a side effect of 343 not understanding the themes of Halo, same with the decline of campy oorah military themes in the games. I want all of that back
I've always wondered if 343 hates Bungie because it doesn't make any sense why they removed nearly all of their prominent features and unique story elements. It always seemed like they were trying to go against Bungie and make their own game with the master chief slapped onto it.
I actually like armor cores somewhat. I hope that instead of them being entirely separate, I hope they act more as outfits in a way. That way we have multiple looks we really enjoy without erasing the prior one.
As much as I want playable elites tbh gotta think realistic and the thing 343 has to do as soon as possible is to make a spartan core that's elite themed like they made on halo 5 but make it look better. That's what 343 neeed to prioritise on the next core. It's better then nothing.
What is crazy is halo infinites elite design is the best by far. It’s really just a waste to not have playable elites. Big set back on 343s previous managements part. Hopefully the new guys realize this
i think with the banished focus, we could also use playable elites, and insurrectionists (dont have to be playable, just in the story, could you imagine having to take on an enemy spartan in the story?) also imagine an invasion game mode with Hidden’s idea of having multiple playable race cores. The gamemode could have “loadouts” or randomized spawns where you become one of your cores.
I cant even get an objective only playlist. Im tired of getting slayer when I want ctf. If we get a robot core before an elite core im gonna be pretty annoyed. I dont wanna be a robot. I wanna be an elite. Elites battling each other would be amazing. Swords vs banished elites talking smack sounds so good.
If only the AI, BTB Announcer, and the Spartans themselves wouldn't stop referring to you as "Spartan" would make the introduction of non-Spartan characters less jarring. Which would take an overhaul of so many voice lines.
Honestly i still think we should have had playable Jackals decades ago. Seriously, an alien Space pirate game is something we've never seen mainstream HOW?
i wonder if 343 isnt adding them, bc they know how desired it is, and prey on the hope of fans to keep them going back to their microtransaction ridden heretical version of halo
@@alexanerose4820 Really,is that a thing to ask? I don't love them,as a matter of fact i only see them as a target and nothing more. Stop assuming everyone likes those damned things,such a narrow view point.
Hear, hear. Let us take our plasma rifles that actually work or the one non-crappy, non-beam-rifle covvie precision weapon that has ever existed, and furthermore let us customize them like we could in Halo 4 (I genuinely miss my old UNSC-paint-scheme'd covvie carbine). All the new weapons in Halo Infinite look like the "at home" version of a weapon that's already existed, and I hate that so much.
Imagine being able to pick the variations from each Halo game like different art styles. Like Halo 3, Halo reach, Halo 4. And that's not even including armor yet
Imagine if in Infinite’s campaign, along with meeting up with the marines, you also team up with surviving Swords of Sangheilios with the Arbiter as a second player character.
I was really upset when I realized allied Elites weren't making an appearance in the campaign. Would have loved to see how the banter between marines and elites has evolved.
PLAYABLE ELITES, ASSASSINATIONS, and BETTER SERVERS are my top three needs at the moment. I hope we get better customization options in the future as well.
And don’t forget to make the game M Rated again, i feel like keeping the franchise family friendly is holding it back so much, halo was never a game meant for kids anyways
My DREAM Halo Infinite season (before the narrative cutscenes were cancelled) was to get a Swords of Sanghelios themed season. This would be a season that reintroduces Rtas 'Vadum (or The Arbiter, but I do think Arbiter should be saved for campaign) as a commander of the Swords of Sanghelios that arrives at the Academy to call upon the Spartans to help them fight the Banished. We would get some lore and exposition explaining the SOS's current status with their battle against the Banished (and maybe even remaining Covenant remnants) and explain what the Arbiter has been up to since Halo 5 (in-game). This season would introduce playable elites, new Covenant/Banished weapons (Fuel Rod, Plasma Rifle, Needle Rifle, etc.), Banished weapon customization that adds Covenant colors, Banished vehicle customization with classic Covenant coatings and models, and maybe even a new vehicle (Revenant, Spectre, Anti-Air Wraith). The menu would show Spartans and Elites standing side by side at either the Academy or aboard a Swords of Sanghelios cruiser/carrier. Ideally this season would be added after Firefight or another PVE mode were already in the game so the main objective of the season would be to help the Swords of Sanghelios carry out their plans against the Banished. I can dream.
I think multiplayer being canon has ruined so much fun multiplayer used to have. Now everything needs to make sense with the lore instead of just being fun. And for the love of god, Halo is not just a "Spartan story"... Great video as always! ❤
I thought that was the most stupidest decision they made was to make multiplayer Canon because my main problem with it is what has my Spartan been doing besides train?? nothing, that's not cool or interesting 🤦🏾
I don't understand why they felt like they had to make the multiplayer canon. I want the locations to be in universe obviously, but I don't need an explanation as to why the red guys and the blue guys are fighting for a patch of dirt.
I know we get memed on a lot, but I always loved playing Elites. I'd probably say because the Arbiters story spoke to me a lot as someone who was dealing with questioning religion when I was old enough to start really thinking about the story of Halo 2. While I like my spartan in infnite, I alwyas felt more connected to Elites because of that.
@@Codreanu_Prezent learn your own book ‘I am a stranger and an alien residing among you; give me property among you for a burying place, so that I may bury my dead out of my sight.’ Genesis 23:4 You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt. Deuteronomy 10:19
I like how you provided a solution to balance problem for multiplayer. I think they should return as core and future story telling. 343 could definitely use them as a real cash cow while making the community happy
An advantage of having elites be excluded from ranked is that you also don't have to try to fit them to the same silhouette as Spartans. They wouldn't have to hunch over and look strange like they did in Halo 3
As someone who prefers to play as robots wherever possible and love the 343 unsc robot design I think Elites should absolutely take priority. I really wanted playable promathean soldiers in halo 5 and then infinite and they even fit the body type of Humans even then once again elites should have taken priority.
There is a lot of things added in season 5 but I agree Elites should come back only on social modes not ranked. Also they should implement two matchmakings Universal/Social - Allows all Species and cores to be playable (SBMM is toned down) Spartan - only Spartans are playable in the matchmaking SBMM is apparent With all cores added they should be in social and firefight modes and then again the option for, Spartan vs Enemy. If they are gonna do non-human cores elites should be priority number one all the other cores will be complimented and people Will connect and play with their favourites species. Only Halo could pull that off, it’s up to the new 343 team if the wanna surpass Old Bungie and their Standards.
I don’t like playing as elites but I always loved having other players play as elites. Player expression is important even if it’s not about what you specifically want to use. I personally blame Bungie for changing how playable elites worked in Reach which led to 343 thinking it can’t be done right
@@JumpingJiraffe Honestly, Halo 2 already was the perfect example. Yes they didn't have any armor customization, but neither did Spartans at that point in time. If you want to talk about Spartan and Elite equality, no game has ever topped Halo 2 to this day. (Halo 3's armor selection massively favored Spartans and Halo Reach's discrepancy was even worse.) The main problem was that Halo 3 made them extra hunched over because of this "balance first" mentality (which ironically fucked them,) Elites in Halo 2 were a bit bigger than Spartans, but it also barely mattered.
I think playable Elites will come back. 343's entire upper staff has been replaced by the people who fixed Halo MCC, and from what ive heard, earning cosmetics in that game is way more about game challenges and performance, rather then microtransactions. I believe they will be brought back, its such an easy way to win back good faith. Also, there is no actual evidence for a Robot Core. I wish there was, but honestly theres none. Also, Halo 5 increased the importance of the Elites was increased dramatically, they were given so much cool stuff there, the Swords of Sanghelios, Arbiters new Armor which looks incredible, SoS fighting other post-Covenant armies like the Storm Covenant, Keepers of the One Truth, etc and its sad, because originally, Halo Infinite was going to start on Sanghelios with the UNSC and SoS fighting off the Created!
I would want playable Elites cause they're my favorite design. But I would like to see playable Brutes too, especially if we could get chiefton armor. I probably would easier to add Brutes cause their structure is similar to humans.
Cannot describe how much I want playable elites back! Used to perma play as elites back in H3. Completely understand why elite character models wouldn't be suitable for a competitive game mode, but I'd adore seeing them in social games again!
I would love for playable elites to come back. I almost always played as them in halo 3, 2, and reach. Also they are awesome characters in halo campaign
I still want playable Brutes, there's so much potential there. They would have similar hit boxes to humans because they have similarly shaped bodies. They could have amazing customizations, like Brute captain armor pieces, chieftains armor pieces, they could have pieces of Atriox's armor, Tarturus Mohawk, Varidus' rebreather, Halo 2 holographic captains flag and so on
The problem is that Brutes would be drastically different and would need to be limited to certain modes only. They may have a more human-esque body shape, but they're way bulkier than spartans and have no recharging energy shields.
@@Robbie_HarunaSome in the game have rechargeable shields actually if you play firefight or the campaign you'll see some so it could work. I agree with the other person they should add playable Brutes too Spartans are so overrated....
If they do bring them back, I can agree that they can be excluded from Rank (well unless like you said they have a sub rank for elite only) as a trade off to have them playable in social. I mean really, there's already an armor set that would look cool to see, that being that one character the arbiter faced at the end of the duel.
Even though I've stuck to playing as a Spartan all these years, it always felt nice to fight not only against Elites, but alongside them as well. It really felt like a breath of fresh air and made the game's customization that much more memorable. I feel like there's literally NOTHING to lose if they get added again, as long as they get axed from ranked like you mentioned. TLDR; I'm down for them to return.
Hello Xpeira I miss playing Elite ever since Halo 3 I played them all the time id rather be them than a Spartan im a covenant Traitor lol I miss them so much and always have because Elites are cool especially Arbiter hes my favorite Character
343 would earn so much respect and trust back from me if they added playable elites. It would be the perfect sign to the community that they have changed and know what the community wants.
Halo 2 has been the best halo i ever played and the biggest part was the interweaved stories of arbiter and master chief and playing the contrast of perspectives as they converge
The problem is that would be like Reach where it's too advantageous and would get people whining about how playing Elites is unfair if they were allowed in social. Keep them stat wise the same as Halo 2. If they're a bit bigger who gives a shit, Halo 2's were a bit bigger than Spartans and they were fine.
Honestly its astonishing the gold mine of marketable content they are missing out on with playable aliens in general is insane. That level of customization and the since of immersion would draw in so much money and attention.
Every couple of videos you make about halo I find myself thinking "thats exactly what ive been thinking for years now" but you're always able to put it into words. I think you're spot on about this. Infinite's story was a great step in the right direction but to really get that classic halo feel we need our brothers, the elites back.
I honestly love the idea of playable Grunts and running around as a gremlin shooting kneecaps out, guerrilla warfare to the extreme. I also personally loved the idea that Warzone brought to the table and should have had its aspects fused into other portions of the modern Halo gameplay. Although not sure how to go about a playable Flood unit with Infinite's current armor core system, I DO feel like it should just be a bonus cosmetic used for any core, but part of me also wants that, if the different races and classes WERE playable, they have unique gameplay aspects too. Like in a Flood based mode, the player Flood is like a low level Keymind with infection properties. I have an outline for an Infection Mode rework that's sort of a mix of Infection, 4's Flood mode (Hivemind variant), Juggernaut, Firefight, and Warzone, which is also using the lore-based aspect of the code for "nuking a spot for a Flood infected Spartan." Also trying to stay true to how the Flood unit mechanics work, it's a WHOLE outline with a bunch of details but that's the summary I have. I'd try to make it myself but I currently don't have a way to access any Halo title at the moment. XD
I as new player would love to have playable elites. New cores, new customizations, new effects and such. Man, I'd purchase a couple things for one. And if they can robots why not add Elites, why not the Brutes too? Heck, Make a Forerunner Core, or a Knights Core from the guys in Halo 5. Expand it. Edit: Their reasoning for it being a spartan's Story, does not matter if they got RID of the multiplayer story. Which basically destroyed that reasoning. Edit2: Would people even play a game that's NOT master Chief? Last time it didn't go so well.
Elites were something only Halo could do. If we want Halos identity to be fleshed out again we need stuff like playable elites to come back. PS: I feel like going beyond elites for playable species is too much, even for casual. But I wouldnt mind specific gamemodes where you play as other species/characters. I remmember there used to be a Halo Custom Edition map where everyone plays as grunts and having that as an official gamemode would be great.
I got a hella good idea, a good way for 343 to introduce playable elites to halo I feel like would be a dlc that’s focused more on the elite side of things, maybe it could focus on a variety a elite that climbed his way through the ranks, or it could focus on the covenant, what’s of it and who’s leading or maybe we could get a perspective of a elite soldier of the swords of sanghelios. I have to be honest here if a playable elite dlc were to happen id rather be a random elite commander or soldier rather than being a special elite character like the arbiter. Anyways I think a campaign dlc would be a great way elites to come back to halo. I would prefer the old customization of halo reach with rather than mixing up the armors like halo 3 it would be like halo reach where u could pick what rank u would want for customization and u can’t change it. I prefer that a lot more because I think that the elite armors that got mixed up looked kinda wonky and weird and liked the simplicity of just picking the armor set u want and that would be it. Another cool thing would be invasion with starter load outs like halo reach, this mechanic really worked for invasion, let’s say the title of a load out is a spec ops elite and it’s weapons are a plasma rifle and sword and a infinite active camp because that’s what spec ops would do, or even let’s say zealots come to the game, they could get a regular carbine and a energy sword because that seems like something a zealot would have. I also think we need some old covenant weapons back as I mentioned before the plasma rifle would be cool and so would the carbine and maybe even the needle rifle, we definitely need the fuel rod back, actually we need all of these weapons back. I wish I could explain more but we’d be here all day. WE NEED ELITES AND INVASION
First thing i did when i play halo 3 my first halo game was change my spartan to a assault elite. They are just the coolest alien design and the fact they are basically more honorable predators makes them just awesome they need to come back.
I always dream of a "mausoleum of the arbiter" game, where we play mini campains with different arbiters based on the most iconic moments of the covenant lore like the grunt rebellion
I feel like being able to play as alien species, and seeing them as actual characters, not just enemy monsters, is what made Halo so unique and cool. I honestly can't believe there's never been a Star Wars Battlefront II style halo game with grunt, jackal, and elite classes. And the whole balancing issue could be easily fixed. Balanced doesn't necessarily mean equal, maybe the Spartans run faster but the Elites can dodge roll (like the evade from Reach) and maybe the Elites jump higher but the Spartans punch harder (more melee damage). Anything to expand from just plain vanilla Spartans.
A compelling and coherent explanation on the current situation and a reasonable means to return a core feature to the games. 343 has said they are focused on the core components of the games when they have left out one of the bigger core features since 2012. An excellent video. No more waiting, no more excuses. Bring back playable elites.
I could imagine how different it could have been for Infinite's campaign. Imagine we get a similar experience to that of Halo 2, where you play as Arbiter, covering his story after landing on the ring. In addition, you get really cool abilities unique to Arbiter / elites. Instead of a grapple hook, you get a covenant era jetpack modified to reach high speeds and maneuver-ability
This may never happen, but if they came back to Halo 5 and added in playable Elites for custom games and forge, I’d very much appreciate that. Maybe they could also add in settings for classic elites and the brutish elites from halo 4-5
Sadly true. Because current 343 doesn’t understand it’s community. A community built upon a foundation made of Bungie trilogy fans. MAKE HALO GREAT AGAIN!!!
I'm probably one of the few who's interested in this "Robot" core. I mean, you *NEVER* see robots in Halo other than the Sentinel Drones and the Prometheans. Barring the AI that are non-physical "robots", the UNSC pretty much don't have robots at all. That said, yeah, Elites need to return.
And the time has come, honestly. If playable Elites come now it'll never catch up to the population of players choosing Spartans due to the number of Spartan core options. It would have been tough to keep up with adding options for both species each season, but now itll be an understanding that Elites will always have fewer options. Expectations are curbed now, essentially. We just want at least one Elite core option.
The Eagle Strike and Rikishi armor are basically the same armor, same can be said with the Mark 7 + 5B armor clearly these four sets should have just been too and consider the fact that they're spreading their resources down the multiple art styles for these armors.
@@EastlakeRasta7 Eagle Strike and Rakshasa are nothing alike. Not sure what you're talking about. They don't even share the same design language. Round and industrial vs damaged/improvised and cobbled together. I like the cores system, though I think many armor components should be cross core, especially over half of the helmets in the game could fit any core.
@EastlakeRasta7 I just wish the forge scripting could let me use the cores more deliberately. Like if I could assign a stat change depending on the core you enter the match with, or otherwise I could set your core based on something on the map like if you choose a class. The Eagle Strike would make a great tank barbarian class, and the Rakshasa a great stealth ranger style class. Would make for some dope maps and modes.
@@Will_Forge the design language has nothing to do with anything except for a name for the stupid Cores, you clearly didn't look at them long core close enough, just the default color for both of them shows that the armor design is basically the same thing along with the armor texture, the black under suits are basically the same what's different is how the armor wraps around the black suit, the Mark 7 back chess piece is more similar to The Mark 6 then the five be but overall they're basically the same armor if you take the arms of the mark 5 BB and throw it on the seven you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference, but we can't say for certain until there is a cross core customisation
@@Will_Forge I don't like it because it's limiting, limiting in the context of ( I honestly forget which one doesn't have the back armor piece between the Eagle Strike or Rikishi lol) because both of these armors barely have any armor when you compare them to the mark 7 and 5b, they're just overall lacking and shoulders helmets excetera combining the two would solve this problem, and remember they even apologize for making all the armors more or less similar they were apologizing because they were basically the same fucking Armor 🤦🏾🤣😂🤣😂
As its been said before, Halo is not just a spartan story, its about the bigger picture here. Especially when Elites become allies, and they're a key part of the lore. I doubt 343 will ever want to add them if they haven't now, in the game that's perfect to reintroduce them. Even if they disregard the players, that's a new avenue to monetize them, so even financially it would be a wise decision to push them, but all we've ever had was the Elite season in MCC to provide anything for Elites.
It’s not impossible H2A had halo 4 elites in them. Proving they could do it. People love elites and we want the old social big battle halo back instead of the competitive focus
I would love playable elites but I think removing them from ranked is dumb because people like me who would only use elites could not play ranked. Great Video by the way.
The thing you mention about the balance problem in multiplayer is that... Halo Reach already did that! It was a part of a title update and you can even have the gametype code for it utilize that, to force everyone as a certain species or whatever the player chose. You can even force players to be elites! It's how the gametypes in those modes were coded. The problem was solved before even 343 took over and the fact that they put it to the wayside because of a very small minority is complete nonsense! Also side points: -Firefight in Reach was fun when you played VS firefight and with the higher player cap it'll be crazy. -Halo Reach Invasion. 'nuff said. Invasion became 10x better with custom forge maps. -Modding community. Seriously. People have made your freaking spartan and elites playable in cutscenes like in Reach like come on. -Just... something else to look at. Like if they want more player customization and body sizes, voices, gender, color, armor, skin, effects, weapons skins, death particles, AI voice, AI type, AI color, visor color, vehicle design, vehicle type and little doodads then us playing as a freaking alien that helped the freaking "spartan story" in the past should be more than justified!
343: “How can we make more money through the store”? Players: “playable elites” 343: “Only if there was a way to rake in a bunch of money very easily”. Players: “PLAYABLE ELITES!!!” 343: “I got it!!! Robot core!! The community wants a robot core!!!” Players: *smh*
If they made playable Elites I’d 100% want Arbiters armour from H2, H3 and Halo wars (because they’ve added Halo wars spartan armour) I’d even be willing to pay for a “Arbiters legacy” pack or something like that
I just want to snipe an enemy and hear them go AWWWUUGUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Is that too much to ask?
Maybe elites could have slightly different HP/shield mechanics for social
Finally the blade master himself is addressing the issue! Thank you
@@joederp5940 I liked the passive heal mechanic from Reach, but in infinite, honestly there isn't much to try to change the elites hp/shield mechanics
At this point, yeah I think it is too much to ask. 343 have spent the last 2-3 games making this blatantly apparent. They don't care for fans that don't blindly agree with everything that 343 does. They even sick the "pro gamer" shill squad on you to let you know that if you want Sangheili back then you're opinion is in the minority so it's not important. They only care about making Halo into diet-Call of Duty, and focusing on ridiculous Multiplayer competitive selling points. Top that off with taking out features that have been there since CE, like armor customization, and then take a look at their abhorrent lack of any story-telling skill, etc. The list of "Why 343 is incompetent" just keeps going, like the Energizer bunny. 343 has always had their own vision for the franchise, and if you don't agree with their vision, you are not a priority for them.
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I still think a Halo:Battlefront game would be a lot of fun. Having playable Marines, ODSTs, Elites, Brutes, Drones, Grunts, etc. would be so cool
If this came out, I would die happy
Now that would be epic!
YES!!!! The perfect chance to really capture the true scale of Halo battles! We’ve got the engines and tech to do it! Mass amounts of vechicles, hundreds of players and NPC’s all fighting like hell over objectives or territory to win.
Sorry but no fun allowed....
Great idea man!!
Completely agree with this. I think playable elites were a staple for halo ever since their introduction. I’m just confused on why 343 doesn’t want to introduce them, when they could very easily monetize them. They could have an elite core, where you could purchase elite armor and coatings or whatever, along with being able to customize banished weapons like how you can with UNSC ones, lol. I don’t quite understand 343’s reasoning that halo is a “spartan story”, when there is so much more to the halo universe, lol.
Because they physically cannot achieve the workload required to do it.
"its a spartan story" translates to "This is all we can afford to give you"...
@@youtubedeletedmynamewhybotherIt's pathetic to think about, Microsoft's most recognized IP has an equivalent budget of 5 bucks.
I love both Sony and Microsoft games, but man. Microsoft seems to really not want to stand out, like at all. Halo as an IP has just been dragged through mud. Gears of War has seen similar muted reception. It just oozes corporate to me, lack of passion to make art but make a quick buck
If anything, Gears of war got an even shitter end of the stick.
They fu cked the franchise and let it rot.
Atleast they feed Halo some adrenaline here and there to resuscitate its corpse to endure more torture. @@JuiceboxCE
@@youtubedeletedmynamewhybotherso much truth in your words, brother.
I’d love to see an elite grappling around infinite
Oh my god, that would be hilarious. And as it’s flying all you hear is “BYYY THE RINGGGSSS THIS IS TOO MUCH!!!”
Or just the classic “Wort wort wort!”
Ohhh, okay, so I know everyone would hate this but what if Elites could not grapple but instead have higher jumping than the Spartans. Just a though.
The biggest issue I think is that Elites lack of presence stems from the fact that Atriox's forces are largely made up of his fellow Brutes and scoundrel Kig-Yar looking for bounties. Any Elites, Grunts, and Hunters that are tagging along are purely hired mercenary corps who don't really care for allying with Brutes, but have no choice. But what I'm more confused about is; knowing that Cortana was hot locking planets down, why didn't Arbiter even send even a handful of his Sangheili warriors that were ok with dealing with humans long term when Infinity left Sangheilios' orbit? Most of them of course would want to stay close to Arbiter because of their drive to fight and die for him, but I can imagine a few would want to be where the fight is, knowing none was coming to Sangheilios.
I really want to see playable elites come back with a ton a cosmetics like some human made armor for elites and elite made armor for Spartans I think that would be awesome to see them with the each others aesthetics.
Playable brutes would be pretty cool too considering they are part of the main focus of halo infinite
I'm pretty sure back in Halo Reach they actually did do a system where they banned elites from rank and the bulk of matchmaking. They solved this issue literally a decade ago, like you said before. Like, you could have playable elites in custom games if you enabled a certain setting, but public matchmaking and especially ranked just flat out banned them. If not just having things like "Elite Slayer," or "Elite Swat," etc.
If playable elites come out I’ll make Three Hundred and forty three NSFW Cortana art
Something that makes it even weirder that Elites are missing is that I'm fairly certain it's stated in the lore that post Halo 3, the UNSC and covenant remnants that sided with humanity do train together.
The Halo multiplayer at this point is meant to be simulations and war games, but the Elites are missing even though they're supposed to train with the Spartans.
Hell they could even make that work with the ranked/unranked lobbies being separate things. Unranked lobbies are the general training and recreation with everyone involved, ranked only includes Spartans because it's there to test them and find out whose the best or in other words, to rank them.
if halo can make shrimishes like squad where theres differnet classes that would be amazing. like for the unsc you can have a certain amout of spartans but also have diff classes like odst and marines. same for the banshied have a certain about of elites brutes grunts and prob 2 hunters, would make the game feel different
*I’m incredibly happy with the direction Infinite is finally heading in…if we can get Firefight, Playable Elites/Brutes, and CAMPAIGN DLC. Most of the Halo Fans will come charging back to get back into the fight.*
I don’t play as elites but I did find it cool that you could and how they’d play and look like
Hear me out a battlefield type halo where you play as marines v covenant and Spartans odsts and mechs can be unsc special units that you can unlock via kills/xp gain and the covenant can have hunters jet pack brutes and maby drones I know there's a weird prophet spartan equivalent so throw them in there too
Somebody needs to remind 343i that Elites have been playable in in the majority of Bungie Halo games. This isn't some weird, niche thing that Bungie tried out and then decided was a bad idea, but that the fandom latched onto. Seriously, unless I'm mistaken somewhere, the _only_ Halo game produced under Bungie's tenure where you couldn't play as the Elites in some way is Halo:CE.
They should do a "ranked" core that is only used in rank that's super bare bones, that way 343 can add elites and any other core that could be unbalanced and not have to worry about the ranked scene
If they add other species based armor cores, I think it would be sick if they had different attributes. Ex: Playable Skirmishers are super fast but don't do a lot of melee damage.
I would have much preferred playing as the Arbiter or Rtas Vadum when fighting the Blademaster in Infinite. That would've been a hell of a swordfight.
Now I hope for it since Season 5 is going to give us things we've been asking for since forever, and it's only the beginning and hopefully after Season 5, we'll get more things we want. Including Elites.
Elites would take more work to implement than robots, with robots they can easily move over spartan armors to the robot model, hell the robot core and spartan core would probably use the same exact base modular model so that they WOULDNT have to adapt much to have spartan armors.
While the MP Spartan Model is/was created as a modular model so that they can swap armors easy, the elite model would have to be converted to the same type of modular model so that they can then cut up the armor models to make them modular.
while I would like to have the Elites, as well as Robots(iffy on these), and even Brutes added, they are focused on entirely different things....
However,
They could easily balance out the races if people cry about hitboxes for heads and such by just adding racial passives and diversify health/shield stats between them
as well as making the different weapon damage types do more/less damage to flesh or shields.
Brutes- +25Hp, -25Shields(with lower recharge rate)
Spartan- Base HP/Base Shield(better shield recharge delay timer, faster recharge/use of equipment)
Elite- -25%hp, +25%Shield(higher recharge rate)
Plasma- +25% damage to Flesh, -25% to Shield
Kinetic- Base/Base (with better reload and fire rates)
Energy- +25% damage to Shield, -25 to Flesh
I personally like the idea of not giving Humanity a better or worse stat on their guns or resistances an like to give them the utility bonuses.
this would shake up the sandbox so that people would seek out weapons that would make them gain an advantage over players using different races, and would make it so just using one weapon like a BR or something to win all situations wouldn't be as dominant.
I hope that, if infinite multiplayer keeps the 10 year schedule, one day they realize an elite spin off game, even in outsorcing, and in that moment they add playable elites
Plus didn't the anvil initiative make it Canon that elites and Spartans did war games Sims together?
4:27 I saw this and *instantly* thought, "where can I get myself some of that?" I'm guessing it's a mod or something though.
Honestly I feel like the lack of elites is a side effect of 343 not understanding the themes of Halo, same with the decline of campy oorah military themes in the games.
I want all of that back
And maybe with adding them, they could make banished and Forunner weapons customisable
Elites were and are my favorite aspect of Halo. I'd love to see them come back. Make it happen 343!
I've always wondered if 343 hates Bungie because it doesn't make any sense why they removed nearly all of their prominent features and unique story elements. It always seemed like they were trying to go against Bungie and make their own game with the master chief slapped onto it.
BRO the day, I see Elites doing a drop slide in Halo Infinite. My life would be complete!
I actually like armor cores somewhat. I hope that instead of them being entirely separate, I hope they act more as outfits in a way. That way we have multiple looks we really enjoy without erasing the prior one.
Give us payable brutes now that would be fun too especially with playable elites
As much as I want playable elites tbh gotta think realistic and the thing 343 has to do as soon as possible is to make a spartan core that's elite themed like they made on halo 5 but make it look better. That's what 343 neeed to prioritise on the next core. It's better then nothing.
What is crazy is halo infinites elite design is the best by far. It’s really just a waste to not have playable elites. Big set back on 343s previous managements part. Hopefully the new guys realize this
You are pleading a serious case here my brother
i think with the banished focus, we could also use playable elites, and insurrectionists (dont have to be playable, just in the story, could you imagine having to take on an enemy spartan in the story?)
also imagine an invasion game mode with Hidden’s idea of having multiple playable race cores. The gamemode could have “loadouts” or randomized spawns where you become one of your cores.
The Banished themselves were supposed to have humans and Spartans with in their ranks, but 343 really squandered with their potential.
Hold up. I wanna hear more about the “Elites on the infinity being canon”😂
I cant even get an objective only playlist. Im tired of getting slayer when I want ctf.
If we get a robot core before an elite core im gonna be pretty annoyed. I dont wanna be a robot. I wanna be an elite.
Elites battling each other would be amazing. Swords vs banished elites talking smack sounds so good.
I think it would be super cool to play as a skirmisher
If only the AI, BTB Announcer, and the Spartans themselves wouldn't stop referring to you as "Spartan" would make the introduction of non-Spartan characters less jarring. Which would take an overhaul of so many voice lines.
343's response: *Ok Elite Preferred Species* but for real tho, there is no excuse for not adding playable elites back
I can confirm playable elites are coming to the game (I am a playable elite)
Honestly i still think we should have had playable Jackals decades ago.
Seriously, an alien Space pirate game is something we've never seen mainstream HOW?
AWWWWUUUUGUUUUHHHHHHH
Wort wort wort!
AAAIIEHMTHEMEHH BLARGH
WORT WORT WORT!
WHUUUDAAABAAAA
Woodudan
Ngl I really love the elites. Their stories, designs and voice. I really hope we can see them return again
i wonder if 343 isnt adding them, bc they know how desired it is, and prey on the hope of fans to keep them going back to their microtransaction ridden heretical version of halo
WORT WORT?!
One of the only races to match a Spartan with thank to their skills. Who wouldn't love them?
@@alexanerose4820 Really,is that a thing to ask?
I don't love them,as a matter of fact i only see them as a target and nothing more.
Stop assuming everyone likes those damned things,such a narrow view point.
I not only want Elites to return to Infinite, i also want to see Covenant weapons to return as well
Hear, hear.
Let us take our plasma rifles that actually work or the one non-crappy, non-beam-rifle covvie precision weapon that has ever existed, and furthermore let us customize them like we could in Halo 4 (I genuinely miss my old UNSC-paint-scheme'd covvie carbine). All the new weapons in Halo Infinite look like the "at home" version of a weapon that's already existed, and I hate that so much.
WHERE'S MY PLASMA RIFLE? WHERE'S MY CARBINE? WHERE'S MY FUEL ROD GUN?
I miss my Plasma Repeater Rilfe and the Type 31 Needle Rifle
All i want is dual wielding plasma rifles and to be able to use a carbine
I want to see the needle rifle again
playable elites would be so good in infinite! the amount of customization they could have is amazing!
Not to mention how good they look in that game. 343 nailed the art style.
Probably the only way they'd be able to get me to spend money
Imagine being able to pick the variations from each Halo game like different art styles. Like Halo 3, Halo reach, Halo 4. And that's not even including armor yet
@@Grimfate013guarante no one will use the halo 4/5 elites 💀
@@Anonymous-yq6wythe people who use chimera would
Imagine if in Infinite’s campaign, along with meeting up with the marines, you also team up with surviving Swords of Sangheilios with the Arbiter as a second player character.
I would buy it right away.
I was really upset when I realized allied Elites weren't making an appearance in the campaign. Would have loved to see how the banter between marines and elites has evolved.
PLAYABLE ELITES, ASSASSINATIONS, and BETTER SERVERS are my top three needs at the moment. I hope we get better customization options in the future as well.
You are forgetting social features. I miss pre game lobbies and global chat so much....
@@howdoichangemyprofilepictu9839it's not like anybody's gonna use them that often, games nowadays that even have social features are pretty dead.
PROXIMITY CHAT
And don’t forget to make the game M Rated again, i feel like keeping the franchise family friendly is holding it back so much, halo was never a game meant for kids anyways
@@Ghilliez it really doesn't matter, 5 year olds were playing it even when it was M rated, so what if there's only blood in the franchise now.
My DREAM Halo Infinite season (before the narrative cutscenes were cancelled) was to get a Swords of Sanghelios themed season.
This would be a season that reintroduces Rtas 'Vadum (or The Arbiter, but I do think Arbiter should be saved for campaign) as a commander of the Swords of Sanghelios that arrives at the Academy to call upon the Spartans to help them fight the Banished. We would get some lore and exposition explaining the SOS's current status with their battle against the Banished (and maybe even remaining Covenant remnants) and explain what the Arbiter has been up to since Halo 5 (in-game).
This season would introduce playable elites, new Covenant/Banished weapons (Fuel Rod, Plasma Rifle, Needle Rifle, etc.), Banished weapon customization that adds Covenant colors, Banished vehicle customization with classic Covenant coatings and models, and maybe even a new vehicle (Revenant, Spectre, Anti-Air Wraith).
The menu would show Spartans and Elites standing side by side at either the Academy or aboard a Swords of Sanghelios cruiser/carrier. Ideally this season would be added after Firefight or another PVE mode were already in the game so the main objective of the season would be to help the Swords of Sanghelios carry out their plans against the Banished.
I can dream.
THIS
Jesus this guy ideas are based
@@hunterrules0_o I’m just passionate about Halo, and I like to think I know what would make the players happy in this modern era of Halo.
@@ThePatriot117x where can i vote for you lol.
@@ThePatriot117x Well it's a good start, if also tied in with something to fix the issues I had with connection.
I think multiplayer being canon has ruined so much fun multiplayer used to have. Now everything needs to make sense with the lore instead of just being fun. And for the love of god, Halo is not just a "Spartan story"... Great video as always! ❤
Multiplayer could’ve been canon AND STILL had playable elites. In fact, it is and it does… in Halo Online.
I mean, they can tie in Infinite's canon MP story with Sangheili allies for future seasons, so there's still hope...
I thought that was the most stupidest decision they made was to make multiplayer Canon because my main problem with it is what has my Spartan been doing besides train?? nothing, that's not cool or interesting 🤦🏾
I don't understand why they felt like they had to make the multiplayer canon. I want the locations to be in universe obviously, but I don't need an explanation as to why the red guys and the blue guys are fighting for a patch of dirt.
Can just think it's not canon. Although I do think the fact that Forge may be canon is entertaining, I think it was a Halo 4 booklet.
Playable Elites are one of the things I miss dearly from Bungie era
It’s clear with 343 making everything UNSC they just want to make halo a futuristic call of duty
its why 343 cant make a good Halo. they dont understand fun/cool should come before competitive/tryhard
I know we get memed on a lot, but I always loved playing Elites. I'd probably say because the Arbiters story spoke to me a lot as someone who was dealing with questioning religion when I was old enough to start really thinking about the story of Halo 2. While I like my spartan in infnite, I alwyas felt more connected to Elites because of that.
Same here, 100%
Halo 2 is my favorite Halo game and it’s mostly because of the Arbiter’s arc in it (although I of course love the chief missions too)
Now I need a story about questioning secular liberal democracy
@@Codreanu_Prezent "brown countries suck" he says on his channel, forgetting that Jesus wasn't a white guy
@@Ssekkaha They do. That doesn't mean I hate brown people. Countries have the right to preserve themselves without being called hateful.
@@Codreanu_Prezent learn your own book
‘I am a stranger and an alien residing among you; give me property among you for a burying place, so that I may bury my dead out of my sight.’
Genesis 23:4
You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.
Deuteronomy 10:19
I like how you provided a solution to balance problem for multiplayer. I think they should return as core and future story telling. 343 could definitely use them as a real cash cow while making the community happy
100%. I rarely spend money on cosmetics, but to make my Elite Character look badass, I’d do it.
An advantage of having elites be excluded from ranked is that you also don't have to try to fit them to the same silhouette as Spartans. They wouldn't have to hunch over and look strange like they did in Halo 3
The things is they don't have to do that. Just exclude them from ranked.
@@nycto5335yes, that's what they Said.
They could give Elites their own separate rank pool.
Or put heavy focus on making Spartan V Elites like invasion in reach.
As someone who prefers to play as robots wherever possible and love the 343 unsc robot design I think Elites should absolutely take priority. I really wanted playable promathean soldiers in halo 5 and then infinite and they even fit the body type of Humans even then once again elites should have taken priority.
Playable elites are honestly the only thing would make me re install halo infinite and give it an other shot.
There is a lot of things added in season 5 but I agree Elites should come back only on social modes not ranked.
Also they should implement two matchmakings
Universal/Social - Allows all Species and cores to be playable (SBMM is toned down)
Spartan - only Spartans are playable in the matchmaking SBMM is apparent
With all cores added they should be in social and firefight modes and then again the option for, Spartan vs Enemy.
If they are gonna do non-human cores elites should be priority number one all the other cores will be complimented and people Will connect and play with their favourites species.
Only Halo could pull that off, it’s up to the new 343 team if the wanna surpass Old Bungie and their Standards.
I don’t like playing as elites but I always loved having other players play as elites. Player expression is important even if it’s not about what you specifically want to use.
I personally blame Bungie for changing how playable elites worked in Reach which led to 343 thinking it can’t be done right
And iirc, playable Elites CAN be done right.
@@yoshipeamachinespawn3658 Halo 3 would’ve been perfect if they just improved the hitbox’s.
@@JumpingJiraffe Honestly, Halo 2 already was the perfect example.
Yes they didn't have any armor customization, but neither did Spartans at that point in time. If you want to talk about Spartan and Elite equality, no game has ever topped Halo 2 to this day. (Halo 3's armor selection massively favored Spartans and Halo Reach's discrepancy was even worse.)
The main problem was that Halo 3 made them extra hunched over because of this "balance first" mentality (which ironically fucked them,) Elites in Halo 2 were a bit bigger than Spartans, but it also barely mattered.
EXACTLY
I think playable Elites will come back. 343's entire upper staff has been replaced by the people who fixed Halo MCC, and from what ive heard, earning cosmetics in that game is way more about game challenges and performance, rather then microtransactions. I believe they will be brought back, its such an easy way to win back good faith. Also, there is no actual evidence for a Robot Core. I wish there was, but honestly theres none.
Also, Halo 5 increased the importance of the Elites was increased dramatically, they were given so much cool stuff there, the Swords of Sanghelios, Arbiters new Armor which looks incredible, SoS fighting other post-Covenant armies like the Storm Covenant, Keepers of the One Truth, etc and its sad, because originally, Halo Infinite was going to start on Sanghelios with the UNSC and SoS fighting off the Created!
I want my playable Elites back I just found playing as a spartan boring but playing as an Elite more fun.
On good I miss them so bad
@@bravetaco7005 same
I would want playable Elites cause they're my favorite design. But I would like to see playable Brutes too, especially if we could get chiefton armor. I probably would easier to add Brutes cause their structure is similar to humans.
We need Elites back, maybe even Brutes! Give us what we need, more customization!
We need playable grunts 🤓
@@TheRafark Would love that actually
Cannot describe how much I want playable elites back! Used to perma play as elites back in H3. Completely understand why elite character models wouldn't be suitable for a competitive game mode, but I'd adore seeing them in social games again!
I would love for playable elites to come back. I almost always played as them in halo 3, 2, and reach. Also they are awesome characters in halo campaign
I still want playable Brutes, there's so much potential there. They would have similar hit boxes to humans because they have similarly shaped bodies. They could have amazing customizations, like Brute captain armor pieces, chieftains armor pieces, they could have pieces of Atriox's armor, Tarturus Mohawk, Varidus' rebreather, Halo 2 holographic captains flag and so on
The problem is that Brutes would be drastically different and would need to be limited to certain modes only.
They may have a more human-esque body shape, but they're way bulkier than spartans and have no recharging energy shields.
@@Robbie_HarunaSome in the game have rechargeable shields actually if you play firefight or the campaign you'll see some so it could work. I agree with the other person they should add playable Brutes too Spartans are so overrated....
If they do bring them back, I can agree that they can be excluded from Rank (well unless like you said they have a sub rank for elite only) as a trade off to have them playable in social.
I mean really, there's already an armor set that would look cool to see, that being that one character the arbiter faced at the end of the duel.
Even though I've stuck to playing as a Spartan all these years, it always felt nice to fight not only against Elites, but alongside them as well. It really felt like a breath of fresh air and made the game's customization that much more memorable. I feel like there's literally NOTHING to lose if they get added again, as long as they get axed from ranked like you mentioned. TLDR; I'm down for them to return.
I miss intentionally running over my elite-preferred teammates 😭
i’d give anything for playable Elites man… fantastic video bro
Hello Xpeira I miss playing Elite ever since Halo 3 I played them all the time id rather be them than a Spartan im a covenant Traitor lol I miss them so much and always have because Elites are cool especially Arbiter hes my favorite Character
343 would earn so much respect and trust back from me if they added playable elites. It would be the perfect sign to the community that they have changed and know what the community wants.
Halo 2 has been the best halo i ever played and the biggest part was the interweaved stories of arbiter and master chief and playing the contrast of perspectives as they converge
An idea for balancing elite size difference could be increased speed, better shielding, better health and/or healing.
The problem is that would be like Reach where it's too advantageous and would get people whining about how playing Elites is unfair if they were allowed in social.
Keep them stat wise the same as Halo 2. If they're a bit bigger who gives a shit, Halo 2's were a bit bigger than Spartans and they were fine.
Honestly its astonishing the gold mine of marketable content they are missing out on with playable aliens in general is insane. That level of customization and the since of immersion would draw in so much money and attention.
“They shed or brothers blood and for that they shall die!”
Every couple of videos you make about halo I find myself thinking "thats exactly what ive been thinking for years now" but you're always able to put it into words. I think you're spot on about this. Infinite's story was a great step in the right direction but to really get that classic halo feel we need our brothers, the elites back.
I honestly love the idea of playable Grunts and running around as a gremlin shooting kneecaps out, guerrilla warfare to the extreme. I also personally loved the idea that Warzone brought to the table and should have had its aspects fused into other portions of the modern Halo gameplay.
Although not sure how to go about a playable Flood unit with Infinite's current armor core system, I DO feel like it should just be a bonus cosmetic used for any core, but part of me also wants that, if the different races and classes WERE playable, they have unique gameplay aspects too.
Like in a Flood based mode, the player Flood is like a low level Keymind with infection properties. I have an outline for an Infection Mode rework that's sort of a mix of Infection, 4's Flood mode (Hivemind variant), Juggernaut, Firefight, and Warzone, which is also using the lore-based aspect of the code for "nuking a spot for a Flood infected Spartan." Also trying to stay true to how the Flood unit mechanics work, it's a WHOLE outline with a bunch of details but that's the summary I have. I'd try to make it myself but I currently don't have a way to access any Halo title at the moment. XD
On top of Elites, I'd absolutely love an ODST armor core
I as new player would love to have playable elites. New cores, new customizations, new effects and such. Man, I'd purchase a couple things for one. And if they can robots why not add Elites, why not the Brutes too? Heck, Make a Forerunner Core, or a Knights Core from the guys in Halo 5. Expand it.
Edit: Their reasoning for it being a spartan's Story, does not matter if they got RID of the multiplayer story. Which basically destroyed that reasoning.
Edit2: Would people even play a game that's NOT master Chief? Last time it didn't go so well.
Not to mention it would be a massive business advantage for 343. It’s a win, win.
@@Fire4ward Ikr
Elites were something only Halo could do. If we want Halos identity to be fleshed out again we need stuff like playable elites to come back.
PS: I feel like going beyond elites for playable species is too much, even for casual. But I wouldnt mind specific gamemodes where you play as other species/characters. I remmember there used to be a Halo Custom Edition map where everyone plays as grunts and having that as an official gamemode would be great.
I got a hella good idea, a good way for 343 to introduce playable elites to halo I feel like would be a dlc that’s focused more on the elite side of things, maybe it could focus on a variety a elite that climbed his way through the ranks, or it could focus on the covenant, what’s of it and who’s leading or maybe we could get a perspective of a elite soldier of the swords of sanghelios. I have to be honest here if a playable elite dlc were to happen id rather be a random elite commander or soldier rather than being a special elite character like the arbiter. Anyways I think a campaign dlc would be a great way elites to come back to halo. I would prefer the old customization of halo reach with rather than mixing up the armors like halo 3 it would be like halo reach where u could pick what rank u would want for customization and u can’t change it. I prefer that a lot more because I think that the elite armors that got mixed up looked kinda wonky and weird and liked the simplicity of just picking the armor set u want and that would be it. Another cool thing would be invasion with starter load outs like halo reach, this mechanic really worked for invasion, let’s say the title of a load out is a spec ops elite and it’s weapons are a plasma rifle and sword and a infinite active camp because that’s what spec ops would do, or even let’s say zealots come to the game, they could get a regular carbine and a energy sword because that seems like something a zealot would have. I also think we need some old covenant weapons back as I mentioned before the plasma rifle would be cool and so would the carbine and maybe even the needle rifle, we definitely need the fuel rod back, actually we need all of these weapons back. I wish I could explain more but we’d be here all day. WE NEED ELITES AND INVASION
Toooooo true my friend! Can’t believe it’s been more than a decade since Playable Elites was left in the dust. Well made video, Luc! 👍👍👍
First thing i did when i play halo 3 my first halo game was change my spartan to a assault elite.
They are just the coolest alien design and the fact they are basically more honorable predators makes them just awesome they need to come back.
I always dream of a "mausoleum of the arbiter" game, where we play mini campains with different arbiters based on the most iconic moments of the covenant lore like the grunt rebellion
I feel like being able to play as alien species, and seeing them as actual characters, not just enemy monsters, is what made Halo so unique and cool. I honestly can't believe there's never been a Star Wars Battlefront II style halo game with grunt, jackal, and elite classes.
And the whole balancing issue could be easily fixed. Balanced doesn't necessarily mean equal, maybe the Spartans run faster but the Elites can dodge roll (like the evade from Reach) and maybe the Elites jump higher but the Spartans punch harder (more melee damage).
Anything to expand from just plain vanilla Spartans.
Well I do want playable elites, I guess I will watch the video.
A compelling and coherent explanation on the current situation and a reasonable means to return a core feature to the games. 343 has said they are focused on the core components of the games when they have left out one of the bigger core features since 2012. An excellent video.
No more waiting, no more excuses.
Bring back playable elites.
I could imagine how different it could have been for Infinite's campaign. Imagine we get a similar experience to that of Halo 2, where you play as Arbiter, covering his story after landing on the ring. In addition, you get really cool abilities unique to Arbiter / elites. Instead of a grapple hook, you get a covenant era jetpack modified to reach high speeds and maneuver-ability
Elites being added would give an excuse to add back some traditional covenant weapons LIKE THE PLASMA RIFLE
This may never happen, but if they came back to Halo 5 and added in playable Elites for custom games and forge, I’d very much appreciate that. Maybe they could also add in settings for classic elites and the brutish elites from halo 4-5
Sadly true. Because current 343 doesn’t understand it’s community. A community built upon a foundation made of Bungie trilogy fans.
MAKE HALO GREAT AGAIN!!!
I'm probably one of the few who's interested in this "Robot" core.
I mean, you *NEVER* see robots in Halo other than the Sentinel Drones and the Prometheans. Barring the AI that are non-physical "robots", the UNSC pretty much don't have robots at all.
That said, yeah, Elites need to return.
And the time has come, honestly. If playable Elites come now it'll never catch up to the population of players choosing Spartans due to the number of Spartan core options. It would have been tough to keep up with adding options for both species each season, but now itll be an understanding that Elites will always have fewer options.
Expectations are curbed now, essentially. We just want at least one Elite core option.
The Eagle Strike and Rikishi armor are basically the same armor, same can be said with the Mark 7 + 5B armor clearly these four sets should have just been too and consider the fact that they're spreading their resources down the multiple art styles for these armors.
@@EastlakeRasta7 Eagle Strike and Rakshasa are nothing alike. Not sure what you're talking about. They don't even share the same design language. Round and industrial vs damaged/improvised and cobbled together.
I like the cores system, though I think many armor components should be cross core, especially over half of the helmets in the game could fit any core.
@EastlakeRasta7 I just wish the forge scripting could let me use the cores more deliberately. Like if I could assign a stat change depending on the core you enter the match with, or otherwise I could set your core based on something on the map like if you choose a class. The Eagle Strike would make a great tank barbarian class, and the Rakshasa a great stealth ranger style class. Would make for some dope maps and modes.
@@Will_Forge the design language has nothing to do with anything except for a name for the stupid Cores, you clearly didn't look at them long core close enough, just the default color for both of them shows that the armor design is basically the same thing along with the armor texture, the black under suits are basically the same what's different is how the armor wraps around the black suit, the Mark 7 back chess piece is more similar to The Mark 6 then the five be but overall they're basically the same armor if you take the arms of the mark 5 BB and throw it on the seven you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference, but we can't say for certain until there is a cross core customisation
@@Will_Forge I don't like it because it's limiting, limiting in the context of ( I honestly forget which one doesn't have the back armor piece between the Eagle Strike or Rikishi lol) because both of these armors barely have any armor when you compare them to the mark 7 and 5b, they're just overall lacking and shoulders helmets excetera combining the two would solve this problem, and remember they even apologize for making all the armors more or less similar they were apologizing because they were basically the same fucking Armor 🤦🏾🤣😂🤣😂
As its been said before, Halo is not just a spartan story, its about the bigger picture here. Especially when Elites become allies, and they're a key part of the lore. I doubt 343 will ever want to add them if they haven't now, in the game that's perfect to reintroduce them. Even if they disregard the players, that's a new avenue to monetize them, so even financially it would be a wise decision to push them, but all we've ever had was the Elite season in MCC to provide anything for Elites.
I not only want playable Elites back, I now want playable brutes, jackles, and regular humans as well, each with there pros and cons.
Nah. There's no pros of being a marine over a spartan or a grunt over a elite.
Halo: Battlefront would be epic
@@megathicc6367 What if it was like a Battlefront situation with infantry and reinforcements?
@@megathicc6367sounds like a skill issue
343:I don’t need it, I don’t need it, I don’t need it… the halo community: I NEED IT!!!
It’s not impossible H2A had halo 4 elites in them. Proving they could do it. People love elites and we want the old social big battle halo back instead of the competitive focus
We need a video about the new season 5 drop my man!!!!!!💪💪🤙
I would love playable elites but I think removing them from ranked is dumb because people like me who would only use elites could not play ranked. Great Video by the way.
The thing you mention about the balance problem in multiplayer is that... Halo Reach already did that!
It was a part of a title update and you can even have the gametype code for it utilize that, to force everyone as a certain species or whatever the player chose. You can even force players to be elites! It's how the gametypes in those modes were coded.
The problem was solved before even 343 took over and the fact that they put it to the wayside because of a very small minority is complete nonsense!
Also side points:
-Firefight in Reach was fun when you played VS firefight and with the higher player cap it'll be crazy.
-Halo Reach Invasion. 'nuff said. Invasion became 10x better with custom forge maps.
-Modding community. Seriously. People have made your freaking spartan and elites playable in cutscenes like in Reach like come on.
-Just... something else to look at. Like if they want more player customization and body sizes, voices, gender, color, armor, skin, effects, weapons skins, death particles, AI voice, AI type, AI color, visor color, vehicle design, vehicle type and little doodads then us playing as a freaking alien that helped the freaking "spartan story" in the past should be more than justified!
343: “How can we make more money through the store”?
Players: “playable elites”
343: “Only if there was a way to rake in a bunch of money very easily”.
Players: “PLAYABLE ELITES!!!”
343: “I got it!!! Robot core!! The community wants a robot core!!!”
Players: *smh*
I miss my playable Elites so much. That and a lot of the old Covenant weapons. Great video as always Hidden!
If they made playable Elites I’d 100% want Arbiters armour from H2, H3 and Halo wars (because they’ve added Halo wars spartan armour) I’d even be willing to pay for a “Arbiters legacy” pack or something like that