To play for the Money and probably never win a premiership or Play for a premiership for less money with a team that has a big grass roots ie: Broncos/Panthers/Tigers/Raiders/Dogs. Forget where some of these clubs are running on the ladder
I don't "get" why dummy halfs are not worth far more. A top dummy half like Grant or Koroisau should be on at least almost as much as top halfs and FBs. A team with out a decent dummy half will struggle no matter how good others in the spine are.
@@jacobmurphy423 True but why should a top dummy half accept big "unders" so others get the top money ? If Grant isn't on near 900K with his new deal he should have moved to Dolphins or even Broncs who would pay him that.Hell put Grant in the Broncs side right now and they would fly into the top 8.According to reports Broncs are looking at Munster who will cost them a million per season yet Grant would have had just as big an impact (maybe more). For me dummy half is a crucial position often under valued by most.
I think Gal was right in saying a lot of the top shelf hookers are quite young or on an expiring contract. Brailey brothers, Mahoney, Grant, Smith are all going to be on bigger contracts within the next year or 2. Cook and Koroisau were the real surprises there. Api has obviously bought into the take unders to win the comp rhetoric and it's worked but I would've thought Cook would be around the $800,000 mark.
@@6t7ghost I'm laughing that a club is paying Fifita 850k for 35mins off the bench, good on him, but I'm laughing at the club. And you have no idea how much I earn champ, I don't earn a "wage" that's for sure
So, clearly, developing your own players is the key. You get them in their first breakout contract, then you get them for the intermediate, then they graduate to the elite tier. They are elite the whole time, but you get them for unders because they are loyal. Unless, of course, it's Ash Taylor, David Fifita, Jaydn Su'A and guys like that. Broncos love to find and lose good players. The Tigers must just about have a full NRL squad playing for other teams, too.
It doesn't matter if you think there worth it or not, fact is there's always a bottom half team that will pay over market value, Pappy and Latrell will both look at ponga's contract next extension and ask for more and as they should. Happens all the time in the NFL
Mate!They sign no names!And turn them into NRL players,before Xavier Coates!The last rep player we signed was Mick Corker over ten years ago🤷🏻♀️We don’t buy premierships like the roosters over the last 6 years! We have given away in the last 12 years more rep players than any of their clubs! We have the best system in the game than anyone,and every one knows it!
It is not a fair competition when the Storm could just re-sign their best players very cheap. Papenhuyzen is a $600k/yr contract and Harry Grant is paid $550,000 a year. How on the earth the team like the Knights could compete when they are obliged to pay Ponga $1m per yr? It is hopeless.
That's on their current contract. When they re-sign they're going to get more. There's a reason Munster is getting pushed out and that reason is what the rest of the spine players will be getting.
@@ARandomGuy24 What are you talking about? Both Paps and Grant have recently re-signed with the Storm. No player at the Storm is paid $1m a year except Munster.
@@Greenfield-yf1wh There's a difference between when my current contract runs out my next contract will kick in and I'll get an upgrade and I'll get an upgrade immediately. Like on Zero tackle it has Hughes getting paid 700K this year and 900K next year.
It's unfortunately always going to be like that, Storm is a club that players will play at for less because it is a dominant club, like the Roosters, Rabbits and Panthers (as of late) Whereas struggling clubs like the Knights only have money to offer. Of course every player has their own mindset, some would rather just play for the cash and that is it, some would rather chase premierships at a heavy cost to their own income, some players early on chase premierships, but later on chase money......it is different for everyone. Some players can be swayed, others can't.
Fact is the salary cap is supposed to make for an even competition but the Storm and Panthers are absolutely miles ahead of everyone else and will be for another decade plus
Panthers and Storm are 2 different cases. Panthers developed their own kids and they are all loyal to the club so will play for less, plus they are now a good club and have won a premiership. Storm get some juniors from their feeder clubs, but also get 'leftovers' from other clubs and develop them, for instance: Ryan Papenhuyzen, Josh Addo Carr, Cameron Munster, Jahrome Hughes.....Were all players that other clubs didn't want, Storm gave them a chance and of course a player will play for less at Storm when 1. they get a chance there where they don't anywhere else, 2. they get to play for an elite club with a winning culture. (Roosters (and to a degree Rabbits) would be in that boat too). It never will be even, most players will play for less at a good club, especially if that club gave them a chance and/or developed them, closeness to home does play a factor too.
Or just being a good club. Where would you rather go? A club that is paying you more but is unlikely to win a premiership, or a club that is paying you less but is very likely to win a premiership?
Can the producer's of 100% footy please control motor mouth Paul Gallen, he interrupts questions before the question is finished he may have a good idea of what the question is but the viewing public don't SHUT UP GAL ! He just a gibbering annoying part of that panel when in motor mouth mode SHUT UP GAL !
The NRL salary cap is an absolute joke, Adam Reynolds who is an South Sydney junior and long serving player should have been heavily discounted under the Rabbitohs salary cap. Other players like Tom and Jake Trbojevic (Manly), Victor Radley (Roosters) and most of Penriths NRL squad should be rewarded for nurturing local junior players to NRL level. Yet the NRL would prefer clubs to just poach players from clubs that have developed them.
The point of the salary cap is to force teams to share talent. If it is meant to have another goal, such as letting Souffs fans keep their favourites forever, then sure, they need to change the system to keep toothless spoons happy.
@@jojohehe3251 not just Souths but Penrith etc, if teams develop juniors that make NRL level shouldn't they then be rewarded ?, without juniors there is no rugby league so kudos to the clubs that are actually able to do this than the clubs doing nothing and waiting to swoop on other clubs hard work. By the way I don't support either Souths, Penrith or Manly, I'm an old Bears fan who just follows rugby league in general.
The more Doggies spent to sign players , it’s much more harder to get the Free games & Jackpots from the Pokies, haha! Think it over before inserting the bloody notes.
I just saw my Dragons go down to storm, can anyone honestly prove to me that Storm is playing fair and under the cap? Impossible, they have grant, hughs, coates, bromwich, solomona, kafusi, pap, munster, cheese, olam, welsh.....thats 11 all out superstars that would be a markee player in any team....my Dragons have, Hunt, Molo, Simms, possibly Suli as markee players....thats 3 players.....how is it possible that Storm have 11 AND get to also sign one of our markee players in SIMMS aswell?? Its a load of BS the cap, Storm are rorting it its impossible for them to have so many superstars in the one team, the comp is rigged
They produce players they don't buy them like the dragons... if they do it's from clubs that don't want the players or see the potential in said player.... eg: addo Carr, papenhyuzen from the tigers, Hughes from cowboys, Coates from Broncos etc etc no-one wanted to pay these guys before storm did so they paid less for potential they could unlock whereas the dragons went and overpaid for Simms, molo, hunt, woods, the guy that didn't play for a few years because of a court case, suli etc also they aren't unlocking potential... eg: Simms played amazing for new last year.... wasn't starting for the dragons. Stop whining, your club needs to be better.... so does mine but at least I'm not whining about the storm just because they are run better with better coaching etc. Boom. Mic drop.
@@jaysmith6014 no whining here, pointing out corruption, they were guilty of it once, now they obviously hide it better, as if other clubs arent offering more bigger dollars to the players now...think about it, sure they are good at developing but they cant be under the cap as other clubs would be offering far far far more money, you cant fit that many markee players into one team, id love someone to prove it, I doubt they can, De Belin BTW is a Dragon s jnr not bought same as Simms, Illawarra jnr
Tyran Wishart is a good example. He wasn't offered a contract from the Dragons because they thought Wishart was not good enough, yet He was killing it against the Dragons and you wonder why the Storm has so many superstars.
They've got to get rid of James Bracey. He gets in the way of the conversation between League legends, always a distraction. I cringe whenever he opens his mouth.
Gee Gus really did a good job illustrating how clubs should approach this management process
No he didn't. You should look at the AFL - they have a list managers who are specialists in managing the cap.
Agreed.
Basically he is saying you can’t payer overs for anyone
Gus really showed his knowledge here. Wow that was insightful. Makes me believe my newcastle knights are not juggling the cap intelligently
Fifita enjoying his pay check on the bench🤣🤣
Same with Haas
Haas??? he legit plays like 70 mins every game when he starts. Insane value for money from the broncos standpoint
@@MrLincoln87 he usually plays 70-80 mins but he’s been going through a shoulder problem so he’s only been playing like half a game
Last 10 seconds of Gus, PRICELESS!
see Gal's face. Lol
To play for the Money and probably never win a premiership or
Play for a premiership for less money with a team that has a big grass roots ie: Broncos/Panthers/Tigers/Raiders/Dogs. Forget where some of these clubs are running on the ladder
I don't "get" why dummy halfs are not worth far more.
A top dummy half like Grant or Koroisau should be on at least almost as much as top halfs and FBs.
A team with out a decent dummy half will struggle no matter how good others in the spine are.
Yeah but sometimes you have guys like those two that are on unders so they have a better chance of keeping their best players
@@jacobmurphy423 True but why should a top dummy half accept big "unders" so others get the top money ?
If Grant isn't on near 900K with his new deal he should have moved to Dolphins or even Broncs who would pay him that.Hell put Grant in the Broncs side right now and they would fly into the top 8.According to reports Broncs are looking at Munster who will cost them a million per season yet Grant would have had just as big an impact (maybe more).
For me dummy half is a crucial position often under valued by most.
Most important player on the field other than 7 and 1
@@jackohere1878 They accept 'unders' to be at a good club and have a chance of premeirship
I think Gal was right in saying a lot of the top shelf hookers are quite young or on an expiring contract. Brailey brothers, Mahoney, Grant, Smith are all going to be on bigger contracts within the next year or 2. Cook and Koroisau were the real surprises there. Api has obviously bought into the take unders to win the comp rhetoric and it's worked but I would've thought Cook would be around the $800,000 mark.
A Fifita on $850k 🤣
He plays about 35 mins off the bench
You’re laughing about a young man being on $850k 😂 your wage is penny stocks to him
@@6t7ghost
I'm laughing that a club is paying Fifita 850k for 35mins off the bench, good on him, but I'm laughing at the club.
And you have no idea how much I earn champ, I don't earn a "wage" that's for sure
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 righto buddy
@@6t7ghost think you misinterpreted his comment mate ahahahhaahah
@@aross8509 ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahgahahahahahahahahaha
Gus at his best ..... brutal and honest
So, clearly, developing your own players is the key. You get them in their first breakout contract, then you get them for the intermediate, then they graduate to the elite tier. They are elite the whole time, but you get them for unders because they are loyal.
Unless, of course, it's Ash Taylor, David Fifita, Jaydn Su'A and guys like that. Broncos love to find and lose good players. The Tigers must just about have a full NRL squad playing for other teams, too.
It doesn't matter if you think there worth it or not, fact is there's always a bottom half team that will pay over market value, Pappy and Latrell will both look at ponga's contract next extension and ask for more and as they should. Happens all the time in the NFL
Haha, the Knights are stuck with Ponga til 2027!
Wow the warriors must have alot of money they are holding on to. Hope the merch money they get can get them some more decent players
They throw their money away on scumbags like Matt Lodge, recruiting officers like osullivan and directors like gus who all just come to rip us off
Wow Gus is just full of knowledge on how to manage a football team
How the hell does the Storm keep that many superstars within the one salary cap. Something smells fishy......it's 2009 all over again
Secret third party agreements paid in cash would be my bet.
Contract signings before they got to their current market value. Not hard to understand.
Player development
Mate!They sign no names!And turn them into NRL players,before Xavier Coates!The last rep player we signed was Mick Corker
over ten years ago🤷🏻♀️We don’t buy premierships like the roosters over the last 6 years! We have given away in the last 12 years more rep players than any of their clubs! We have the best system in the game than anyone,and every one knows it!
Munster's leaving because of the rest of them are going to be on too much mate.
5:35 I didn't realise Josh Hodgson is going to the Eels. Interesting..
Signing players years past their prime is a classic eels move
Hodgson is average at best, makes too many mistakes, gutted we're getting an average player and Reid Mahoney is going.
It is not a fair competition when the Storm could just re-sign their best players very cheap. Papenhuyzen is a $600k/yr contract and Harry Grant is paid $550,000 a year. How on the earth the team like the Knights could compete when they are obliged to pay Ponga $1m per yr? It is hopeless.
That's on their current contract. When they re-sign they're going to get more. There's a reason Munster is getting pushed out and that reason is what the rest of the spine players will be getting.
@@ARandomGuy24 What are you talking about? Both Paps and Grant have recently re-signed with the Storm. No player at the Storm is paid $1m a year except Munster.
@@Greenfield-yf1wh There's a difference between when my current contract runs out my next contract will kick in and I'll get an upgrade and I'll get an upgrade immediately.
Like on Zero tackle it has Hughes getting paid 700K this year and 900K next year.
It's unfortunately always going to be like that, Storm is a club that players will play at for less because it is a dominant club, like the Roosters, Rabbits and Panthers (as of late) Whereas struggling clubs like the Knights only have money to offer. Of course every player has their own mindset, some would rather just play for the cash and that is it, some would rather chase premierships at a heavy cost to their own income, some players early on chase premierships, but later on chase money......it is different for everyone. Some players can be swayed, others can't.
And its not third party deals.most clubs do it
The props on the big money are getting double what they are worth atm.
Gus at his best 👏🏾👏🏾
Don't understand how David Fifita is on 1 mil and Payne Hass is not it baffles me
It’s the titans fault for offering Fifita a mill, I don’t think there’s a team willing to pay 1mil for a prop it just doesn’t sit right with most.
Ponga is on way too much money when he's not even top 5 fullbacks in Nrl. 🤦♀️
Fact is the salary cap is supposed to make for an even competition but the Storm and Panthers are absolutely miles ahead of everyone else and will be for another decade plus
Panthers and Storm are 2 different cases. Panthers developed their own kids and they are all loyal to the club so will play for less, plus they are now a good club and have won a premiership. Storm get some juniors from their feeder clubs, but also get 'leftovers' from other clubs and develop them, for instance: Ryan Papenhuyzen, Josh Addo Carr, Cameron Munster, Jahrome Hughes.....Were all players that other clubs didn't want, Storm gave them a chance and of course a player will play for less at Storm when 1. they get a chance there where they don't anywhere else, 2. they get to play for an elite club with a winning culture. (Roosters (and to a degree Rabbits) would be in that boat too). It never will be even, most players will play for less at a good club, especially if that club gave them a chance and/or developed them, closeness to home does play a factor too.
Luke Brooks has the greatest agent there is
Wow that was a good break down
Cameron smith to come out of retirement to play for dolphins
No wonder Hass wants out😂
Valentine Holmes doesn't play fullback
Isn't he playing as a utility at NQC? I think he played a couple of games at fullback this season.
Must be nice for the Roosters not having to worry about managing a salary cap.
How the cap works..cheat and don't get caught
exactly 💯
Yes most clubs handle it well by lying and under the table payments…
Or just being a good club. Where would you rather go? A club that is paying you more but is unlikely to win a premiership, or a club that is paying you less but is very likely to win a premiership?
@@SilentHotdog28 correct but that’s not really a response to my comment
No player is worth any of the figures provided
Glad ur not running a NRL team
The sharks have Andrew Fifita at 850,000$ and he’s sitting on the bench most of the game ? What a waste of $$$
One good hit and Pongas career is over
Can the producer's of 100% footy please control motor mouth Paul Gallen, he interrupts questions before the question is finished he may have a good idea of what the question is but the viewing public don't SHUT UP GAL !
He just a gibbering annoying part of that panel when in motor mouth mode SHUT UP GAL !
He’s just a bogan, what do you expect lol
The NRL salary cap is an absolute joke, Adam Reynolds who is an South Sydney junior and long serving player should have been heavily discounted under the Rabbitohs salary cap.
Other players like Tom and Jake Trbojevic (Manly), Victor Radley (Roosters) and most of Penriths NRL squad should be rewarded for nurturing local junior players to NRL level.
Yet the NRL would prefer clubs to just poach players from clubs that have developed them.
The point of the salary cap is to force teams to share talent. If it is meant to have another goal, such as letting Souffs fans keep their favourites forever, then sure, they need to change the system to keep toothless spoons happy.
@@jojohehe3251 not just Souths but Penrith etc, if teams develop juniors that make NRL level shouldn't they then be rewarded ?, without juniors there is no rugby league so kudos to the clubs that are actually able to do this than the clubs doing nothing and waiting to swoop on other clubs hard work.
By the way I don't support either Souths, Penrith or Manly, I'm an old Bears fan who just follows rugby league in general.
Yes agree with you, that's why most of our talent is leaving to rugby Union. Thats where all the money is at
Tevita Pangai's gotta be the most overpaid for sure.
And for not what to do google Des Hasler
Should be 10 million
Easier to manage
9 and half random
Munster at storm until 2030!
This is why we trust in Gus ! Go the dogs
Tedesco the highest paid fullback shows how stupid league has become.
Still Not enough money
Just up the fuckn budget
Time to rob some footballers
Do a story on how certain teams rort the cap. Or should I say sombrero.
The more Doggies spent to sign players , it’s much more harder to get the Free games & Jackpots from the Pokies, haha! Think it over before inserting the bloody notes.
It’s simple. Nick politis + brown paper bags = premierships
You thought you did something lol
its obvious both Storm and Roorters are rorting, clear for all laymen to wittness...
Next year the dragons will not have one rep player at there club.that tells me this club is going no where next year my tip the spoon 5 wins at best
Ponga is not worth his Coin,
Ponga is over paid over rated
Superstars are only good if the team is consistently winning.
Thec
Papi isn't even top 5 highest paid and is the best in the game
Sack the Cap
Josh Hodgson lol what a joke
Lol as if any clubs stick to it
I just saw my Dragons go down to storm, can anyone honestly prove to me that Storm is playing fair and under the cap? Impossible, they have grant, hughs, coates, bromwich, solomona, kafusi, pap, munster, cheese, olam, welsh.....thats 11 all out superstars that would be a markee player in any team....my Dragons have, Hunt, Molo, Simms, possibly Suli as markee players....thats 3 players.....how is it possible that Storm have 11 AND get to also sign one of our markee players in SIMMS aswell?? Its a load of BS the cap, Storm are rorting it its impossible for them to have so many superstars in the one team, the comp is rigged
They produce players they don't buy them like the dragons... if they do it's from clubs that don't want the players or see the potential in said player.... eg: addo Carr, papenhyuzen from the tigers, Hughes from cowboys, Coates from Broncos etc etc no-one wanted to pay these guys before storm did so they paid less for potential they could unlock whereas the dragons went and overpaid for Simms, molo, hunt, woods, the guy that didn't play for a few years because of a court case, suli etc also they aren't unlocking potential... eg: Simms played amazing for new last year.... wasn't starting for the dragons.
Stop whining, your club needs to be better.... so does mine but at least I'm not whining about the storm just because they are run better with better coaching etc.
Boom. Mic drop.
@@jaysmith6014 no whining here, pointing out corruption, they were guilty of it once, now they obviously hide it better, as if other clubs arent offering more bigger dollars to the players now...think about it, sure they are good at developing but they cant be under the cap as other clubs would be offering far far far more money, you cant fit that many markee players into one team, id love someone to prove it, I doubt they can, De Belin BTW is a Dragon s jnr not bought same as Simms, Illawarra jnr
I thought they are buying Sims because the Storm is losing Bromwich brothers AND Kaufusi to the Dolphins?
Tyran Wishart is a good example. He wasn't offered a contract from the Dragons because they thought Wishart was not good enough, yet He was killing it against the Dragons and you wonder why the Storm has so many superstars.
@@Greenfield-yf1wh yes good point, Im one eyed Dragons so only see news on my team so didnt know those 2 Brommys were leaving
They've got to get rid of James Bracey. He gets in the way of the conversation between League legends, always a distraction. I cringe whenever he opens his mouth.
Any member of the Under 21 Melbourne storm team is worth more than Ponga
@melbourne storm
It's all corrupt and all teams. Under the table stuff every club.
Best salary cap management ? .....plenty of brown paper bags !!! 🤫