Agent of Change = Agent of Chaos - Run#94 - Light Commentary | Hades 2 Early Access

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  • @TheJovian16
    @TheJovian16 Місяць тому +7

    Medea: "The dead have enough intelligence to avoid me."
    Nearby Shade, watching Medea: "So when's the soup gonna be done?"

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  Місяць тому +2

      Loool, that shade is soo cute. They just wanted to be like Medea.

  • @daeity1
    @daeity1 Місяць тому +6

    athena lowkey has helped (and cursed) multiple humans for all sort of reasons. athena was also part of the reason why the trojan war came to be. although ERIS was the main instigator, aphrodite and athena kind of maximized their efforts and the reason why it happened in the first place.
    also we need to see ERICHTHO since she's the REAL witch of thessaly... i find it amusing that medea took her spot considering that erichtho is a lot more sinister than of medea (greek myth wise) and extra petty when it comes to people asking her for aid. she also does cause harm because... she's probably a chaotic neutral type of person.
    also wonder how they'll do the next updates? maybe add in new lore? or boons?
    hades also has some interesting lines when seeing certain weapons... he also has one new boon that's kinda wonky but it vital if you have bloodline on!

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  Місяць тому +1

      Lool right, Eris was one thing, but the other goddesses escalating was another.
      Wowow, Erichtho was interesting and I’m finding not much discussion is about her (that or I’m looking at the wrong place). I don’t know if she had any associations with Hecate, but you’re right, being set in Thessaly is very funny.
      I shouldn’t speak for the writers, but I am going to anyways. My guess is Medea is a fan favorite and they too grew attached to her. She also has direct relations to Hecate I believe, so it must’ve been a small world uniting the coven. I would be very interested in seeing Erichtho tho, thanks for this!
      I believe the Summit will be SG’s next goal, and with that, Ares is expected. So both lore and boons is my bet ^ that’s only considering major updates, not mere balances.
      Oh really? I should check from the Hades boon list, thanks! So far for weapons, he’s commented on Thanatos and Persephone. Not sure about Charon… suppose we only took that on the Surface.

    • @daeity1
      @daeity1 Місяць тому

      @@Hamstir4 erichtho is pretty much "i see someone having a good time, I'M going to ruin it!" if that was a person who knew a great deal about magic.
      i appreciate that they basically merged medea and erichtho into the concept because the blessings that medea give (suffering on sight, etc) is pretty much same on paper.
      im so excited for the new updates!! im just playing around with different games at this point so i wont get bored of hades 2.
      hades also talks about charon! he doesn't have a line regarding nyx's weapon.... he probably doesn't remember it.
      hades should make a reference to the first game about meli's brother had a similar keepsake... and maybe meli could piece it together and think that it came from zag's in the first place?

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  Місяць тому +1

      @@daeity1 Truue! Medea’s boons are essentially how I’d picture this Erichtho to be. Her boon names are so edgy, my favorites are the ones about corrosion and malice.
      I saw! Looked like you’ve been playing some Bayonetta (I don’t play btw). The songs you picked are fun too :)
      I imagine you play other games that don't get recorded ^ so I'm not worried about boredom.
      That’s too bad about Nyx! Because anything about the Black Coats is tantalizing. But I’ll consider taking Charon down (about time I did). Hades will probably say, “Ofc the boatman is still charging under these circumstances.” Or “Well, his duty is to the Underworld, not me.”
      You mean Melinoe using an exact same keepsake from Hades 1? Funny enough, I thought the Purse from Charon was originally from Hypnos from Hades 1. So the storytelling would imply while Hypnos was asleep, Charon pickpocketed Hypnos lmao. But when the art was released, the purse was a different design, oh well.

  • @scarletowl4556
    @scarletowl4556 Місяць тому +6

    HA! The contained fear in Athena's voice when she talks about us! Resourceful, independent creatures that can sometimes match gods in skill and outnumber them greatly, of course she's threatened. If we don't think we need them, why wouldn't we rebel or dismiss them? Holy Promy, how is it that DIONYSUS of all people is the wisest of the Olympians in this version? Usually, it's Hestia, but in Hades she's crazy too. Instead, the god of revelry, wine and madness is the one dishing out wise words. Hephaestus being cool doesn't shock me, though. One particular myth aside, he seems the kind to be chill.
    LOL, this episode is killing me XD. Even Hecate mocks Melinoe for being such a good little soldier to the Olympians. She doesn't get to complain about shit, though. She's the one who raised her to be this way. Not even Hecate respects or likes Zeus. And Imma assume you were being sarcasic when you said Zeus and Hera are a happy couple, because I mean... come on XD.
    Prometheus, as ever, is the most based of them all. Melinoe thought she was clever, making an appeal to authority, conveniently ignoring that Chaos is partly responsible for Chronos's return, and is simply miffed that they were tricked so easily. Promy is THE rebel, dear Mel. These arguments are gonna get knocked down in two seconds flat, and you even get some real wisdom to go along with the reality check XD.
    Also, I wish we had more Nemesis dialogue. Yes, because she's hot, but also because I really love her voice and character. Next update can't come soon enough.

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  Місяць тому +1

      Thing is, I don’t know if the fear of mortals is even real. Are the gods afraid of a threat that isn’t even going to happen? For example, the way I’ve been reading it is like how here in the United States, when women suffrage came to be, many conservatives started wetting their pants over a possible imbalance in politics, but nope, politics remained about the same. It was an overreaction over a fear that was never present to begin with. I’m also guessing, if mortals are as skilled and independent, so what?
      Now if the gods depend on worship, then that may explain why they are salty ^
      Hephy and Dio seem really cool ^ I Hestia I still like her, but she was bothered by Promy stealing rather than seeing the greater outcomes he tried to unfold. Alas. I do like that as a flaw of her, perhaps because she’s one of the founding olympians ^
      Ya LOL I was sarcastic. There are days I feel bad for Hera, and other days, I think they deserve each other given her bad temper.
      Promy was able to easily rebuttal Melinoe’s Chaos argument ^ and I don’t even think he knew about Chronos tricking Chaos lool. Maybe he does.. If we consider his clairvoyance in this story.
      I do want more Nemesis! I love Promy, but lowkey, I think Nemesis is one of the top written characters in Hades. I’m glad she had positive opinions of Promy before she went back on hiatus :)

    • @daeity1
      @daeity1 Місяць тому

      dio is connected to momus, pan, and other gods that revolve around what dio does. this includes zag since his lore (the real one) is him being intertwined with dionysus

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  Місяць тому

      @@daeity1 Seriously? Dio and Momus? Bet! I haven't seen the connections, but Momus and Dio are the dynamic I never knew I needed. I need Momus to critique Hades 2!!

    • @daeity1
      @daeity1 Місяць тому

      @@Hamstir4 its theater (dionysus) and satire / mockery (momus). the two of them are intertwined because most jesters are using both concepts

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  Місяць тому

      @@daeity1 S-sugoi daeity!!

  • @baoisnothere
    @baoisnothere Місяць тому +5

    at the ending of their conversation promy is basically saying chaos is not perfect either, even if they’re the oldest- dude, he’s so!! meli, you can’t win in this debate bruh

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  Місяць тому +1

      Mhmm ^ especially after Chaos learning what lying is.
      If my debate opponent is Promy, I’m just going to save him the trouble and agree with his points. He’ll probably already know I’d concede, gah! There’s no winning with him!

  • @seanwave0152
    @seanwave0152 Місяць тому +2

    I kinda wish they added Erebus character help Melinoe against Chronos pulling a trap on Nyx and interesting dialogue with her sort of like a father figure to her similar to Zagreus and Nyx

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  Місяць тому +1

      I thought we’d get Erebus as a character too! But if they brought up Erebus, then they may be asked to bring up Tartarus or Oceanus for example. It seems the Supergiant is doubling down on them as an entire domain.

    • @seanwave0152
      @seanwave0152 Місяць тому

      @@Hamstir4 yeah my guess is supergiant might be keeping secrets for other primordials and titans(there’s too many of them to name) once the game is complete and get a new interaction and dialogue intro. Also can wait for their character’s art what they look liked.

  • @rupertbutreally
    @rupertbutreally Місяць тому +2

    On your note, "does Zeus trust Prometheus' foresight more than Apollo's oracles?"
    To that, I say yes! I feel like Apollo can only know so much, his "foresight" (if you even wanna call it that) is very limited, not concise. Whereas, in comparison, Prometheus can see so much more (accurately, to boot!). Not to mention Zeus has already gone to Prometheus to get information before. I feel like Zeus is very underhanded. He's paranoid (as usual).

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  Місяць тому +1

      I agree with you picturing the difference between Apollo and Prometheus ^ Apollo said they’d win but not sure of the details, while Promy could see exact outcomes. I also feel Zeus’ paranoia played a huge role here ^

  • @theheartofmymystery
    @theheartofmymystery Місяць тому +4

    "You blasted gods and goddesses are all alike." "You gods and Titans are all the same." Heracles 🤝 Arachne
    Wtf is Hera on about? You're at WAR, Hephaestus is presumably supplying an infinite amount of weapons and armor. What is the problem here?

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  Місяць тому

      LOOL, the character dynamic I never imagined, but it’s perfect!!
      “I wasn’t always a spider y’know?
      “Lemme guess, the doing of the gods.”
      “Mhmm.”
      “That’s rough buddy.”
      Truue lol, the hate on her own kid is rough. Hephaestus is a valuable asset to this war. As important as Athena and Ares imo.

  • @alexcasa1696
    @alexcasa1696 Місяць тому +1

    i wonder what prometheus would say if you did a boonless run?

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  Місяць тому

      Could be worth a shot. Tho I don’t even think Chronos had an interaction of the sort, so I doubt it. (Unless we did it wrong) Perhaps saved for the full release? They did it in Hades 1, so I’m sure they didn’t forget, more likely that it hasn’t been implemented yet.

  • @antonissa8345
    @antonissa8345 Місяць тому +3

    Can you pls go down to the underworld so that you can talk to Arachne

    • @Hamstir4
      @Hamstir4  Місяць тому

      Ya mang! And I found out we have a Fear for the Underworld so two birds one stone. I’ve been spamming Surface runs to exhaust all the Promy dialogues, but Underworld for Arachne? Bet!