The Polar Express
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- Опубліковано 24 гру 2019
- A couple of fun, unnecessary arguments against an innocent Christmas story.
The Polar Express is the story of a young boy who travels to the North Pole aboard a magical passenger train to meet Santa Claus.
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If you take a shot every time the theme music plays you'll see Santa too.
Is that because I will be dead? Do I get to see Santa in the next life? Or Satan?
R C Yes
Im dead 😂😂😂
I didn't see shit, I blacked out.
It's not Christmas music unless it bashes you over the head with Christmas spirit.
He's making a fist
Shakin' it twice...
He'll pop you in the mouth
If you haven't been nice
Satan Klaus is coming to town!! ;o)
On the plus side, it's a very pleasing motif, but yeah the main theme gets overused. Also I think the criticism about the girl is valid, yet this remains my favorite Christmas film to date. Happy to see one of my favorite UA-camrs make a video about it.
Isn't she there to help the others believe?
Like, they pick one person who does believe to help the others believe?
And what was written in her ticket?
@@Psy_Ro Hmm, I feel like they could have made that clearer if it's the case, but ah well, still a classic
I figured her disbelief was so tentative that seeing the magical train was enough to dispel it
@@samhansen9771 That...makes a lot of sense actually
@@BlackbladeYT thanks, I try! (;
Genuine issue with this movie:
So it’s implied the depressed looking kid is this way and is skeptical of Santa because he’s very poor. He has shitty pajamas and lives in a small disheveled house on the outskirts of town.
So... was Santa NOT giving this guy presents? Why did Santa give him less presents or no presents? Because he was POOR?
The movie creates this rift basically to answer why poor kids get less presents... because they don’t believe hard enough. And they don’t believe hard enough because... their parents can’t afford to buy them gifts. Kind of paradoxical and pretty harmful.
Agreed
This is not a problem with the movie, it’s a problem with the entire concept of Santa clause
May i recommend the classic christmas song "Father Christmas" by the kinks?
It's also possible that when he says that Christmas "doesn't work out" for him, it could also be because of family problems.
Luís Filipe Andrade I say paradoxical in the context of a film’s universe where Santa exists
If they didn't play the theme 20 times, you'd forget it obviously
The Force theme gets maybe half as many utterances per Star Wars movie at best, and people seem to remember that one alright. :P Alan Silvestri has a habit of really enthusiastically hammering in his themes, if he has one he's really proud of. Back to the Future, Predator, The Abyss, The Avengers, Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, Stuart Little, and many others he's scored definitely stick in your head for that reason, and I adore him for that sometimes.
@@moviemaestro800 Actually wrote another comment here about the force theme. It's also used A LOT in Ep IV, however it is no nuisance because there is a lot of variation on it, as you said, it's not hammered in your face.
What if the girl didn’t believe in Santa but the train itself was enough to convince her Santa is real
_"At one time, most of my friends could hear the bell, but as years passed, it fell silent for all of them. Even Sarah found one Christmas that she could no longer hear its sweet sound. Though I've grown old, the bell still rings for me, as it does for all who truly believe."_
*~ The Boy (Tom Hanks)*
The uncanny valley is real in the smile of these children.
If the parents don’t believe in Santa why are they not freaked out that there are presents they did not put under tree from Santa.
well to my knowledge the parents don't acknowledge Santa in the movie, the kids just start to believe that Santa doesn't exist because they think the parents put it there, even though they didn't
Aqua Dood remember the end bit were the bell that you can only hear if you believe in Santa and the parents ring it and do not hear it but the children do by the end.
They're crappy parents who don't comunicate and each don't know what the other bought for the kid's.
That's my explanation.
When your theme song slaps this hard you're allowed to bop it as much as you want
I feel like the girl was invited upon the polar express to encourage the others to believe.
Yep I think so😊I'm always keep thinking about that😁
Looks like we got our christmas present.
whats a weeb doing on this channel
God Bless North Korea!
@@xx_1dreamstanlegend_xx422 I put in this pfp ages ago because of PewDiePie. Still don't know what character that is lmao.
@@geckomaniac3801 Tsumugi Kotobuki from K-On
@@jasonbelstone3427 what are you talking about?
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I love letimotifs, but jesus christ
There are three others, but they don't get as much use. Alan Silvestri must have been really proud of that melody.
I think the problem is mainly that a leitmotif should be a core idea that is developed. The force theme in a New Hope is also used A LOT. (I should know, I played the whole score in concerts a few times).
The instrumentation, dynamic and often harmonics vary heavily depending on the scene though, not making it repetitive at least in that movie.
Here there are about three very similar versions that are completely interchangeable. Shame to see
It's not Christmas music unless it bashes you over the head with Christmas spirit.
@@the_bottomfragger Silvestri has a habit of doing that, if he really appreciates a theme he wrote. That's why they're so memorable, but can sound a little repetitive when just listening to his scores on albums. That said, I'd be lying if I didn't enjoy his music all the same. There is good reason for many of his scores also being popular for concerts, like his music for The Avengers, The Abyss, Back to the Future, Predator, or Forrest Gump.
I grew up with this film. Every Christmas for the first 7 years of my life, I watched this movie every Christmas and it was a great time. I may have grown out of it, but it will forever have a place in my heart and mind.
I love this movie but didn’t think about all your points
Love these types of videos. Keep them up!
I found your UA-cam channel this year. It has helped me format myself during arguments and debates so much, especially when I intervene in family ones, because of that they're less rowdy and my own debates go rather successfully too. I love your channel, and I hope that you have a happy holidays, a happy New year and I can't wait to watch this channel into the new decade.
Merry Christmas
the theme music playing over and over again had me rolling
Merry christmas to you too Mr. Counter Arguments, and thank you for a lot of entertainment and interesting videos!
*The nostalgia critic vibes*
HOT HOT OOHHHH WE GOT IT!
HOT CHOCOLATE
HERE WE ONLY GOT ONE RULE
The three children were on the Polar Express for different reasons. The main boy was on there to learn to believe in things that bring joy to others, even if you can’t prove it exists. The girl was there to learn self confidence so she could be a good leader. And Billy learned the value of friendship.
I would also add that the Know-it-all kid was there to learn humility
Wait isn’t this supposed to be “counter arguments”? What is the argument being countered? Or is this just a have a good day kind of thing
StuddedStudio yes
Duh
Ok boomer
in the desc.:A couple of fun, unnecessary arguments against an innocent Christmas story.
Santa did 9/11
He missed the chimney
isn't that pretty much the same motif as Elf? which came first? 🤔
I thought that I remembered it in HD because I was a kid who didn’t know any better. But no, it really does look THAT good.
Polar express did 9/11
You have no proof for those claims sir. We need cold evidence!
Benjamin Burke
#pleaseclap
#jebdid7/11
You will believe
[Buildings collapse]
[Theme tune plays]
Imagine walking down a alleyway and Tom Hanks jumps you saying "C A F A"
Still my favorite Christmas movie of all time. WHY IS IT NOT A MUSICAL!?!?!? Also, the combination of The Polar Express and the Charlie Brown music hits me right in the nostalgia, so thanks for that lol.
What I actually like about the movie actually are the filler parts like the ticket flying. Idk, I just love the visual affects and scenery, it never gets old to me for some reason.
I love this movie for all the symbolism you can draw out of it. I personally love the theory that it could be based on Charles Dickens' 'A Christmas Carol', where the ghost represents the ghost of Christmas past, the conductor the ghost of Christmas present and Santa the ghost of Christmas future. Quite an interesting parallel when you look into it - I'd recommend looking the theory up for more details.
Happy Christmas my man
Holy crap, I never even noticed how many times the theme is played throughout the movie.
Our family watch this every Christmas eve
Love The Polar Express book and movie as a kid and still do.
Although the music plays a lot, I appreciate it, because it's such an amazing score.
Someone uploaded a video about the polar express just an hour ago? I’m so proud of this community. 😭
For real though, it’s so great this film is talked about years after its release, haha.
I loved this film as a kid, you can’t change my mind.
I watched this when I was around 6-9 years old and the theme now for me is alright IMO.
I like to think that the multiple uses of the main theme are tasteful in their use.
My all-time favorite Christmas movie.
Santa's sack is quite impressive in this film
I remember watching Polar Express in the middle of June becouse it was one of the rare discs i had for my old DVD player. Man, that was fun.
I’m fine with the theme music playing a lot because its amazing
Merry Counter, Christmas Arguments
“The Snowman” knocked your socks off in under 30 minutes.
There’s no reason for this to be 90 minutes...
The Polar Express, one of my loved childhood movies ahhh
I love this film and Olive: The Other Reindeer. :P
I can't believe I haven't heard of vince guaraldi before. Great stuff.
Who else was scarred for life as a child by that creepy hobo sequence on top of the train?
Guys, I want to know if CA likes trains, but I don't think there is enough data to know for sure. Does anybody know if he likes trains or not?
just ask him
Who would have thought this would be the next episode of counterarguments. "Screw this old forgotten movie about a North Pole train."
"Its a 1985 book made into a movie starring Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks, Tom Hanks and Tom Hanks" I laughed way too hard at this
I'm watching the polar express right now as this got uploaded
That sounds like Time Burton "Edward Scissorhands" theme music. Think of Winona Ryder twirling as the snow falls
If we didn't have the Polar Express movie, we wouldn't have the Tokyo Drift Express youtube video and for that, I'll be forever greatful.
Merry Christmas you filthy animal! Keep up the fun content
That theme was in Elf!
The Polar Express is still my favorite Christmas movie.
If I'm correct, the girl who did believe in Santa also didn't have a ticket. Which I think means she piggy backed off another kid who didn't believe in Santa.
Still my favorite movie
Ironically, a large part of this video was also that song.
Filler maybe, but whats not to love about a train ride.
And a magic train at that :D Marry Christmas!
I am starting to think that counter arguments is a massive train enthusiast.
Just a hunch!
The animation still haunts me
And here I was thinking he was about to make a counter argument against picking Sicko Mode over Mo Bamba.
My family watches Tropic Thunder as our Christmas movie because why not
Now we slowly watch Counter Arguments turn into CinemaSins
What bugs me is how good Tom Hanks is at doing voices for all of his different characters, and yet he sounds the exact same in every other movie he's ever been in. C'mon Tom, give Woody a scratchy New York accent or something next time.
That kind of thing is usually the fault of the producer or the director. Often when people cast an actor, it is because they want the actor to give a similar performance to one they've given before. It's a safe and easy way to cast actors, but it doesn't allow them to use their range. Still, you can't blame the actor for doing exactly what they're told. That's what they're paid to do.
Tom Hanks as Santa Claus is actually doing his Donald Sutherland impression.
Polar express is just one of those movies that can get away with replaying the same song. Like interstellar
I played the hobo in one of the ride along experiences... in florida. no snow anywhere.
Welcome to counter arguments where childhoods comes to die
Hey, cat in the hat is a national treasure
Was there more Tom Hanks or theme music?
Aw, thanks. You too
Wait a tick - that's the theme to Elf!!!!
you should do a counter argument on "the most appreciated christmas stories out there"... cuz everyone I know hates it, even animators who worked on it.
the tech of this movie was so impressive when it came out
"Belief" and "knowledge" are not mutually exclusive.
The standard definition of knowledge in epistemology INCLUDES belief (and that the belief is justified, the belief is true, and another more recent much more complicated contingency).
It makes zero sense to say "he wouldn't need to believe. he would just know." If he knows it, he believes it.
You need to be more specific, otherwise you're just lumping everything into 1 definition, quite literally using both to mean the same thing.
Merry Christmas, Counter Arguments, I hope you're having a wonderful day :)
Hope I'm not too late to say this at least!
When you want to watch Cinema Sins but just don't have the time.
i love how almost half of the video is just attempting to show how repetitive the theme music is
A counter argument to your counter argument: The train should be decommissioned due to incompetent conductors and a highly unstable track.
Didn’t know this was gonna be a cinema sins video
I found out about The Polar Express when the movie came out. Today I learned it was a book. Still haven't seen it.
The know it all foamer kid didn't even get the locomotive right.
I know right!
It genuinely irritates me whenever I hear him call it a "baldwin"
One thing I about noticed about The Polar Express some time ago is that the parents can’t hear the bell, meaning they don’t believe in Santa. This begs the question, who do they think put the presents there? The grandparents?
@Luís Filipe Andrade That's very possible, I never thought of that
Almost half of this video was the theme music of the movie.
Something tells me the family watched this and you just couldn't stand the plot. Lol
I'll admit to being biased in liking this, as I thought that this 3-minute video rarely had anything engaging to talk about. Then you gave the Christmas message and I thought "okay, I'll let this one slide". But correct me if I'm wrong, youtube only starts monetizing videos with a minimum length of ten minutes right?
Ok this is epic
I agree.
Please, and I can not stress this enough, make one over the cat in the hat movie!
I just realized I've never watched the entirety of this movie.
I'm personally not a fan of this type of "Santa as a metaphor for Jesus"/"Believe"/"Scepticism is Bad"-type of story - both because I disagree with its message, and because it's really overdone - but I enjoyed this video.
Yeah I don't get the real world message. Do they want kids to believe that Santa is real? Are they trying to get kids to believe in supernatural stuff so they are more vulnerable to religious indoctrination? How is any of this good?
Amphiuma III you are insufferable. It’s more about instilling childlike optimism than it is indoctrination
Say what you want about the main theme, but this soundtrack is gorgeous
At least they didn't try to split the children's book into three epic movies like a certain other example.
Perhaps I've missed something, as I haven't seen this in a long time, but where does it say that the train only picks up skeptical children?
she does not believe in santa, she is just playing along