Boomer Advice
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- Опубліковано 15 гру 2019
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The Baby Boomer Generation is the generation after World War II; those born between 1946-1964. Generation Z is the youngest recorded generation; those born between 1996-2012. Apparently, they don't get along.
The Argument: One of the reasons why Baby Boomers usually clash with Generations Y and Z is because they give advice which is considered unhelpful and out-of-touch. The reason for this is because schooling, the job market, and the housing market have dramatically changed since the Boomers were young themselves.
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I made the boomers in my life aware of the current issues before the meme. Now they just make me jealous about how good they had it, instead of giving bad advice. The person who surprisingly gives me the best advice is my grandma, who happens to have been born in the 1920s. The fact that my nearly 100 year old grandma is more in touch with the youth and their problems than people two generations younger than her is hilarious.
She loved through the depression, she must have learned some shit
Older generations did not have it better lol... In terms of economy maybe but not in terms of standard of living.
Lived through depression and lived through recession. Life is tough but they seem to have a realistic sense of optimism. It’s so with my grandmother at least
So what advice does she give?
+koolaidjerk
The literal only thing to have improved since their generation, is technology.
So that's not an argument.
"gen z is currently the youngest recorded generation"
- "We're pretty sure people have been born post 2012, but we've yet to meet one"
The world ended in 2012, so no one could have been born after that. Duh.
They're 8 at most, let them believe the world is perfect for a few years before we start telling them how they're wrong about everything.
I mean., Yeah, Kind Of.
The last USA Census was 2010, so kind of. We don't have reliable data on the Gen after Z, yet.
Yeah, but they are to young to have significant public presence of their own.
@@MedK001 tHe wOrLd dIdNt eNd1! 1!!
2019: Okay boomer
2059: Okay zoomer
Reee
okay gen zxy
Gen z
Ok
Okayyyyy z
Since Generation Alpha is next, they'll be "Generation Beta," so I don't think they'll really have much room to criticize.
When I tell my grandmother something she often blows it off, but if she sees it on facebook, it is true.
This is most people, not just boomers.
Minions memes.
John Smith no one said to stop, keep going...
@@pouglas2714 Okay,
Putting 10w 40 in engines that call for 5w 20. I know that's not social media related, but I had to deal with it recently.
Reposting missing person pictures without verifying them.
Reposting legitimate missing person requests that have already been resolved.
Reposting computer advice that is a troll.
Complaining about lack of courtesy today after recounting a story of punching their boss back in the 70's because he said something. Oh, and he got a new job the next day.
Of course, we can't forget reposting fake news. Ah, and they apparently have forgotten the definition of "entitlement".
@Hinokho Borde nah it's not just boomerbook, it's also tubertube, channel4, and little signal droid program for memes.
My grandma told me to never cheap out on boots. I'd say that's decent advice.
Best advice I ever heard, on the internet.
That's timeless advice right there.
This is only because it does not make you want to REEEEEEE, and it's not questionable advice.
I've never had to buy boots, but I assume it's decent advice, should I ever need them?
your grandma isn't a boomer, she's likely a little to old.
When I told my mom I needed a computer to program, she told me to code using an electric keyboard
Well, technically you could, but there would be a lot of ancillary hardware needed to get at the code of the microcontroller, and you'd have to do hand-conversion of assembly and find a way to feed it (maybe punching paper tape and building a reader).
Lmfao
Briccs Me You’re kidding me right
NozomuYume You Gen-X? :O
My mum went back to university when we were old enough to not accidentally kill ourselves at home. I can remember her working on essays and schoolwork until the middle of the night. More times than I can count I can remember her gently prodding me awake, "Andy, it won't print" as I slowly woke. "Didja try hitting the print button mom?" "Oh, thank you", she'd whisper.
She graduated dean's honour list. I have an awesome very intelligent mum, who's still fucking can't operate a computer to save her goddamn life.
She's owned a computer for nearly thirty years, and still can't find the print button on a regular basis.
She forgot her husband (my dad) spoke Spanish on a family vacation to Spain when we were kids. She'd watch him order in Spanish at a restaurant or talk to strangers, but still she'd get out of the rental car to ask strangers slowly and loudly for directions.
My aunt once told me that she'd only been rejected from 3 jobs she'd even applied for. I'm 20, and I've already had over 100 rejections.
currently unemployed, they don’t even answer. glad im only 18
Ben L i feel ur pain
Let me guess - "not experienced enough"?
ljuc tried applying for a job as a mailman, but i needed education in transportation and logistics, thats 2 years at university to be a mailman. my country is fucking weird
You would have no trouble at all becoming a tradesman apprentice. Plumbing, carpentry, HVAC, masonry, etc. There's labor shortages in all skilled trades. But I gather that isn't something you'd be interested in.... cause it'll require you to do hard physical labor and get your hands dirty.
"ok boomer" has become a boomer phrase by internet standards
Just slap a picture of a minion
Exactly. Go to the Google Trends and search “boomer” you’ll see that the boomer trend hit critical mass months ago. Imagine someone making a Big Chungus meme and expecting it to be as widely appreciated right now vs a few months ago. It WAS a funny meme but now it’s like the equivalent of last year when Leafy fans would comment “hiss” on every video mentioning him. It’s on life support only kept propped up by the laggards who want to weaponize it.
@@fisshbone big chungus is a good anti-meme nowadays though (its a joke because you still think its funny)
@@fisshbone most people don't even know the backstory behind big chunges that made it funny
@@fisshbone "months ago" Try last month. It peaked on the week of November 3rd.
I just enjoy seeing that millennials were roasted by boomers for years for eating to many avos, for being lazy, for being too soft, ect
And then millennials clap back with 2 words and then boomers write article after article about it haha
Boomers: "Your generation is so sensitive."
Also Boomers: "Excuse me? Those two innocuous words are horribly offensive!"
Gen z. Not millenials.
Travis Spicer it’s one of the finest examples of hypocrisy I’ve ever seen
Millenials still suck
Both are the worst of all living generations, their ability to complain and cause problems has certainly been noted.
I was born in 1999. I’m training to become an electrician in a trade school. There is a pressure on Generation Z to go to college, even though it puts kids hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.
At least for me, the utter lack of affordable and specialized trade and vocational schools shows a culture where the younger generation is simultaneously expected to spend exorbitant amounts of money on joining the workforce, while also expected to become constructive members of societies despite crippling debt.
There are ways to become constructive members of society without falling into debt, many of us have to go through hoops to do it, and then we’re blamed when we can’t navigate the minefield.
Excellently said! You've nailed it. I've been living it and watching my family go through it too!
As someone a bit older who got roped into college I'm now the proud owner of a Bachelor's degree (web development) while delivering pizza to barely afford food.
Just be responsible, dipshit.
@Lycantheory though admittedly most jobs you could get with a degree wont pay enough to pay off student loans in a decent amount of time, unless you go into, say, law, medicine or a STEM field.
@@DekuOfPower Law generally won't get you shit unless you're top 10% of your class. Of you're below that, often times firms don't want you. So your degree is about as useful as gender studies.
Boomers be like:
"If youre homeless just get a house"
4HEad
5HEad
softi Wasn't that stupidity spat out by generation Z ?
@@andif.izdiharuddien9372 It's a maymay
If your a hobo lol just get a baby.
I got my best job yet because I pulled a boomer and just walked in, asked for the manager, and (essentially) asked for a job.
But 99% of the time that isn’t going to work.
Merc at Arms I got lucky cause they’re severely understaffed. Walked in, 5 minute conversation with the manager and started the next day.
wat do u do?
2:05 did whoopie really try to have an entire generation take credit for the invention of the catalytic converter?
Hey man, if you are going to blame an entire generation for the worlds problems, she's allowed to have an entire generation take credit for amazing inventions and progress. If you're going to generalise a HUGE group of people, it goes both ways.
Remember that time boomers polluted cities with leaded gasoline, caused gen x to be brain damaged, and made a 20 year crime wave? That was fun
@@infernocanuck except most of the advancements made for the catalytic converter were made by people who belonged to the silent generation so...
@@infernocanuck Nah because the movement isn't really about blaming an entire generation, it's essentially about backlash against people who had it easier than you giving you condescending advice
@@infernocanuck A catalytic converter is a single object.
Millions cannot participate in the invention of a single object.
Millions can however participate in destroying their countries economy.
In fact, that's the only way you could do it.
When I was a kid, boomers couldn't understand how I didn't have a job. They would tell me that when they were my age they were swinging a hammer or whatever that meant. This was when I was 14 btw.
Legally mandated summer jobs (for reduced pay) would probably be a good experience for young adults in high school.
Apparently they meant that they were working in a construction site at your age, don't know the credibility of that though, every chance it might be true
My dad said he had 3 jobs by the time he was 15
@@pesky2119 it doesn't have to be construction. It could just be a metaphor for physical labour. I also have been swinging a hammer back when I was 11, but that was only because I liked helping my father, who was a joiner and carpenter, because it was fun.
Old people say ignorant shit sometimes, but not always. If you ever come across unhelpful advice, you can advise them to actually help by sourcing a job for you. Watch them shut up pretty fast.
I think you misunderstand friendly advice like spending your time working as a youth so you learn your lessons young instead of your mid to late 20s like most of these kids who "can't afford housing". I manage just fine and I'm well below the poverty line. These people are just upset they can't live outside their means. And old people can't understand why this generation doesn't want to work for anything.
"employers like history majors"
Yeah thanks boomer.
If only
"To leave room for milk and hold the foam".
idk when I look at a job application it asks for a 2:1 or above from a Russel group uni, unless it's some seriously specific field. I'm not sure what foreign equivalents are, but I guess decent-to-high grade from a well respected university is what I'm saying. The idea that employers lap up "business studies" degrees is laughable.
It doesn’t for IT. More for business, legal fields.
@AegisEgalitarianAnarchism •
Who said anything about IT? You're not clever you're just parochial. Law is the most obvious answer to "what would I do with history". It's wilful ignorance from you to assume that the only jobs available on the market are in IT or rigid STEM fields. Most job for companies are just based around marketing, design, analysis, etc. Leave the IT jobs to people who are actually capable of doing it, and get a job in something you can actually excel in.
Fun fact: college tuition has increased by more than 1100% since the 80s
And inflation 214%
So the tuition is now several times the price than what it was in 1980
What about minimum wage
Mr. Fishy in my state it’s gone up by about 234%
@@fleshyindividual3220 Minimum wage in the 80s was around $3.30 and hour. If they work 360 days each year, 8 hours a day, that's about $9500 annually. Currently the minimum wage is around $10.00 an hour (varies) and if we do the same math that's $28,800 annually. That's about a 3x increase. (someone check my math)
@@solcohen9042 so it is almost the same thing
Counter Arguments: "Youngest recorded generation, those born between 1996 and 2012"
Kids born after 2012: *fade out of existence
And nothing of value was lost
@@AppleBiscuits lmao you're right!
Gen Alpha has so much wrong with it, good god...
this sound familiar some how, i cant quite place it
@@kameronpeterson3601 Youre right... its on the tip of my tongue but i just cant place it. 🤔
Every generation: *fights with older generation*
Every generation: "Wow, there's always been generational differences but never like this."
Its just more apparent now cause this is the first generational fight to be conducted globally through social media and instant communication
Astronaut 1:Wait it all fighting between generation.
*load gun
Astronaut 2:Always has been
Astronaut 1: your really loading a gun that such a bommer thing to do
Astronaut 2: well maybe if your generation mans up and get a gun you wouldn't be complaining.
*Endless stupid meaningless arguments intensifies.
Well, every generational conflict is unique. But Boomers are a particularly unique generation. They’re incredibly different from the Greatest Generation, the Silent Generation, the Gen X, Gen Y, and Gen Z. Boomers, whether they want to admit it or not, have been pandered to by politicians for several decades now, because of their sheer numbers. If you win the Boomer vote, you are almost sure to win an election. And when you add in the fact that Boomers are the most able to finance campaigns, then you have all the reason in the world to assume that policies will work toward whatever desires the Boomers want. This reality is a huge reason why Gen-Xers have a long history of being apolitical. Why bother voting or being active when the politicians don’t have a reason to listen to you as a demographic?
I like it when someone says ok boomer to a millennial and all hell breaks loose
YOU _FOOL_
YOU ABSOLUTE _FUCKING_ *_BUFFOON_*
YOU'VE OBLITERATED THE SACRED TENETS
Although I personally subscribe to the mindset that "Boomer" is a state of mind, it's still pretty jarring to see "okay, Boomer" directed at someone who isn't, well, a Baby Boomer.
@@GURGLEGUY12345 so, how does that work when you accidentally commit friendly fire on your own generation?
@@pajamas720 Eh?
@@GURGLEGUY12345 wha
>Be me, 21 Doomer Zoomer
>Constantly job hunting so I can actually start my life
>Constant stress because no one will take me in
>Constantly changing resume to seem more appealing
>Have applied to at least 400 jobs in the last 6 months
>6 interviews, none accept me
>Family and Family friends around me: "You just aren't trying hard enough! If you keep trying harder you'll get one eventually! Back in my day, you had to sit down and strap your feet in. Resend applications, one job I had I had to send them to the employer multiple times till they accepted me"
>I know they mean well, but their perspective alone nowadays just pisses me off
ik that feel 😢
Based Greentext poster
im in this picture and i dont like it
>using meme arrows outside le 4channel
@@energeticyellow1637 still good
"Hopefully memes are still around by then."
That gave me a bit of an unexpected existential crisis.
I don't see them disappearing
Memes have technically been a thing since like WWII
Kilroy was here.
Memes were made illegal in 2034 when Disney cooperate bought out the government.
You do realize that memes are just modern day political cartoons...that require a lot less skill to produce. Same stuff, different media.
"Uproot your job, life, and finances, take out a massive loan you'll almost never pay off, and spend 4 years in college" -every boomer I've ever gotten advice from
Pfft! I've told people for years to *not* waste time/money/sanity on college unless it's absolutely necessary. 🙂
at least one person every workday comes in and asks what I'm planning on doing with my life and gives me that advice. Just let me check out your books and have a good day .-.
The university system is hopelessly corrupt
Any college that acts as if racial slurs are ok as long as they're directed at white people are part of the problem
I've seen chemical, aerospace, and electrical engineers all sink into deep depression from how pointless their college degrees were. Most spend over 4 months searching for a good job before they settle for a job that exploits their level of education without ever paying them for engineering work. My father's electrical engineering degree, combined with head hunters made my father's search less than 2 weeks. The difference is almost as depressing as it is enraging.
"stop asking why" and "stop asking what if" from a very conservative Boomer aunt
That reminds me of a quote I heard somewhere "When someone doesn't want you to think, they are not your friend".
Never stop asking why, thats a terrible advice.
@@locustoffamine2644 Theremin Trees said that, but I'm not sure if they're where that quote originates from.
Stefan Kutrowatz why?
Ah yes, another boomer not realizing how good they had/have it
"Ok boomer" didn't mark the end of friendly generational relationships. there was a problem much earlier than that
But "okay boomer" was one of the first times that the Boomers were on the receiving end. Hostility and disregarding others isn't real until it is directed at the Boomers.
Yes, and the problem was born before 1964
Hollywood shit on millennials for 2 decades with no hint of sympathy or mercy, but two words spoken back and all hell break loose.
"Ok Boomer" is gen z for "Cool story bro" which was just modern for "That's nice dear"
okay millenial
@Pajamas720 ok fetus
Haha, what a story Mark.
Ah yes, The View: The pinnacle of human thought and conversation.
Yeah really, I moused over this video to click it and it momentarily showed Whoopie Goldberg's face from "The View" and I damn near didn't click on the video.
I don't 'hate' her - or anyone - but the more she talks, the more I'm certain that I'm right to ignore her.
Once my grandma told me that I shouldn't work hard in high school by taking ap and dual credit clases because that would ruin my college experience because according to her college is easy and affordable.
I think a pretty essential factor for the birth of the "ok boomer" phrase, is not just the fact that the advice of boomers is often not as useful as they seem to think, but the self-congratulatory, sometimes borderline condescending way they present said advice.
My mother is still baffled that I work both a fulltime job and a part time job and struggle every single week to keep my head above water.
And my whole family railed my ass about getting a job even though i was fresh out of high school with no money for college.
And?
@@MrSystemStatic And he's working two jobs and poor as hell.
Economic decline in action.
@@smaurf2499 and? Sounds like some upskilling is needed. Life's not easy.
@@MrSystemStatic He needs money for upskilling, doesn't he? He's working on it but seems like he's having it rough as hell.
@@TheHeavyModd The question is: what is the job he is doing. With modern day resources you can learn stuff by yourself. We are living in the age of IT. Learning to code may not be easy if he is brainlet, But it is possible. Also what is up with muricans moving out when they have no resources to sustain themselves?
This meme died when articles started being written by the small minority of boomers who don't know how to take a joke. Then that brought out the small minority of zoomers who can't take a joke. Then people started making it about generalizations rather than, phone bad book good hate wife. Thus killing a perfectly good meme. Edit: at first it was about “boomer comics” and then it became about actual boomers.
Hate wife is a general thing that shouldn't even be a thing if the couple both are mutually constructive to their relationship
🐬
Of course memes didn't invent the term Bommer, science did, the memes simply gave a different meaning.
Yeah, you cant take a meme seriously. Thats like the point of memes more or less. Yout take a meme seriously you failed at getting the meme.
@@Yipper64 Sometimes memes aren't just jokes, they can also be nothing of substance statements without proper context or people can hide dog-whistle politics in them.
I love the fact that, after years of denigrating younger people for being overly sensitive, the boomers are having a meltdown... at a meme.
Greetings from Gen X (our mutant ability is invisibility).
no kidding, but I guess it's to be expected with our silent apathy
yeah honestly that's what I love the most
pissing off old people who have no concept of how the world works today yet judge people from a perspective of a world where they were in their prime
Gen Xers, you still rock! (A millennial)
@@tsrenis Boomers were never in their prime, they have quite literally accomplished nothing. There are no great boomer artists, architects, designers, nothing even close. They are a generation of lampreys.
@@Gee-xb7rt eh give them some credit
at the very least they took drugs, were hippies, and somewhat caused the 2008 recession
Everyone is saying: "OK, boomer."
But no one ask: "U OK, boomer?"
Because they haven't been engaging with the responses their nagging /I'll informed rants requires in civilised company?
Obviously there is a obligation for any moral being to care for their social surroundings but the "boomers" currently engaging in respectful conversations without age (/gender) based biases about proper conduct have been conversed with... others listened to exhaustively, without knowledge being discovered.
Neither is necessary to mention, unless someone finds my observation helpful in reframing their position.
Holy shit, guys. Shut up.
The first comment is just a bad meme.
Nobody cares what you think.
😔
Ok, boomer
rodaso ok, zoomer
Gen Xer here, I got a bunch of advice form my Great grandparents back in the day and most was good and I still use. Debt is bad, save when things are good, enjoy the small things, always keep a garden... No garden I can't keep plants alive inside outside or anywhere but the rest I use all the time. General advice is good really specific stuff is probably trash
Saving money is debatable though. When an inflation strikes the buying power of currency is lost so saving money could actually hurt your economy in the long run
NaCl Unless you buy foreign currency from a country with economic stability, for example. In my country, Argentina, high inflation is a constant and with time the local currency tends to lose its value, so people usually buy dollars. Or, if they have more money, they buy capital goods (apartments, for example).
The only advice out of that bunch that scales and is compatible with our current system is to enjoy the small things. Tragedy of the commons would indeed strike if everyone believed at the same time that debt was bad and to always save money. Though I suppose things would re-stabilize over time, this would be a significant shift.
Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to Malice what can be easily explained by ignorance!
I always say this, didn't know it was an established razor!
The failure to apply this axiom is very nearly the root of today's political divide.
I prefer stupidity rather than ignorance
@@arrabax Well...you could use Stupidity as well.
Why?
Me going to college:
PARENTS, ARE YOU SURE THIS WILL WORK!!?
My parents:
I HAVE NO IDEA!!!
yatatatata
I AM BOOLETPROOF
SANDVICH!
Then your college debt backstabbed you
Funcrackeh when you parents have 100,000 dollars in college debt and they still want you to go to college like them
My parents being Boomers, I think that I’m providing for myself and still alive, some of their advice must have been pretty decent. They may be out of touch from time to time, but overall, I consider their wisdom to be a credit.
5:10 bold of you to assume there’ll be a generation after gen Z
If you were born after 2012 you are considered incapable to reproduce. I doubt they make it past 15
Is the world ending in the next 15 days?
Ikr haha
It’s Gen Alpha tho.. millenials kids
Mr.Meeseeks Ye they are resetting the simulation
Yeah, at the rate things are going, no one would want to have kids. It's already happening in a few countries. The capitalism as it is now just feels like it's somewhere close to either an evolution or a collapse.
I'm an OK Boomer :)
When my daughter was 14, I taught her how to build a desktop PC...install software and do maintenance and software resolution (she's a millennial)....Fast forward to NOW! My daughter downloads and installs apps on my smart phone and takes care of any maintenance etc for me (my eyesight is rooted)
I never make assumptions/generalizations about anyone or any generation...I don't even think of people in a generational context...IMNSHO we're just all doing the best we can with what we have...some have insight, some don't (regardless of age)
Anyhow peeps..Merry Christmas/Happy Holiday/Happy Hanukkah/Joyous Kwanzaa/etc
Back when the best way to get a computer to work was to smack it as hard as you could. Good times.
Don't categorise yourself sir, you're a decent man and a good father. I think bc you're smart and also have (and had back in the day) more knowledge than my parents and their parents and grand parents can ever have together!
I wish there were more people like you.
@@FigliadiSephiroth loool!
@@pladimir_vutin Thanks Amir...My dad (born 1920) and I built a crystal radio set when I was 6 years old...he taught me how to drive a car at 10 years of age, and always took the time to answer my questions in a meaningful manner...He died when I was 16, but it was a wonderful 16 years of him being my dad. I tried to do the same things with both of my children...Cheers and all the best from me in Oz!!
@@klyvemurray
Very nice. I actually thought about it too, bc it's very well a generational matter.
I myself consider myself very lucky in some issues but very unlucky in the others and don't blame my father for anything because he has it tough too, he also doesn't understand the universe well.
I just believe we should enjoy each other's company while we can be with each other.
And I hope your father rests in peace.
“OK boomer” to me is a defense mechanism of generation Z. Boomers (and older generations in general) have been dismissive of younger generations throughout history based on only their age, so gen Z is doing something similar.
Its call jouvenioa (not sure I spelled that correct) Vasuce did a video like 4 years ago on the phenomena
@@thejoblesscoder Except memesauce doesn't account that the responsibility of former generations isn't being taken into account. Which is the whole reason why Gen Z is pissed. They're angry because they went full retard in their youth and robbed them of their future only to end up extremely conservative in complete juxtaposition of their youth, the equivalent of wanting to have you cake and eat it too.
@@epicpieho Entire generations are not responsible. Specific individuals are. Generalization of this kind gives a false sense of security and prevents a more detailed and accurate understanding of the situation (and ourselves) and, as a consequence, of our problems and how to solve them. Propaganda is common on times like this, and you get fooled by thinking you have it all figured out (or thinking you follow those that you think have). Even if scary and painful, try being skeptical during these times, but also try to understand more thanks to that skepticism and act accordingly. Remember that a sense of urgency and a sense of security mean ultimately nothing but tools for a propagandist if we lack understanding.
@@sebastiansirvas1530 Generations as a concept then shouldn't exist, but they do. Just because individuality and free will exist, doesn't mean you don't exert certain characteristics that can be easily found in others of the same type. Adults are not going to evade responsibility for their actions, which you cannot blame gen Z for the amount of shit the boomers have left them, because they're unable to change nor were they capable for the first 16 years of their lives, whilst also implicating 50 previous years of policies enacted by that generation that are still in use today, furthermore, the majority of federal employees in the country are still 45-70 years old. To imply there isn't a correlation of negative regarding certain age groups is incredibly naive, culture has a play in this discussion and everyone likes to ignore it and deflect it with individualism, neoliberalism is the reason why we're here. Everyone so focused with self identity that society is falling apart at the seems because some movie said you can be what you want (and then didn't mention that there are consequences to recklessly pursuing that goal.)
Boomers in terms of generation size are nearly twice the size of Gen X. Because they didn't have as many children as their parents did, this eventually will cascade into an economical recession. Boomers merely not fucking enough, is going to cause mass immigration and going to cause nationalism to rise and race relations to plummet. Feminism and hippy culture told them to evade responsibility, and now their grand children will pay the price. Most of them are conservative now, but its too late.
See. For gez z you call it defense mechanism, for boomers you call it being dismissive... Most boomers are just stubborn, I honestly can say, I have met only a few boomers, that ACTUALLY try to understand todays world. Boomers are the most spoiled brat generation, that had all the freedom, stable life, everyone was just whoring around, partying, making babies and that's how they got their defense mechanism called "Don't talk over older people". Boomers started that bullshit.
I think the one thing that this video misses with the "Okay Boomer" retort is that it is often used when there is not only a lack of understanding, but a WILLFUL lack of understanding. Go to any Facebook disagreement between a Boomer and a Zoomer, and (stereo-typically) more often than not you will see evidence and articles from a Zoomer, and not from the Boomer. The (stereotypical) Boomer will blatantly ignore evidence and appeal to their personal knowledge or a fallacy (like appeals to authority), and there's not much more the Zoomer can do since there clearly isn't a DESIRE to look at things objectively; hence the quick, dismissive retort: "Okay Boomer".
"I don't need evidence to validate what I say. I have something called intuition and life experience, something your generation will never have. "
@@LegendaryMusicofAllTimes20 Well, these later generations will never really have a life, as the boomers understand it, so that statement is at least partially correct.
What a hasty generalization (a fallacy).
Boomers: “omg ur generation is so sensitive!”
Also Boomers: threw a fit when the black kid used the wrong water fountain
To be fair, things seem to have been better before segregation was stopped. Look at rates of intact black families, the rates of black business owners, and general black prosperity. Silver linings and all. Do you prioritize actual well being of human beings, or do you prioritize social justice dogma? It's not as clear cut to ask yourself that question as you might think.
@@Thalanox yeah, those black people were so much better off getting lynched than being treated like actual human beings. Go put your Klan robe away
@@Thalanox Nearly all of the white southern Democrats from before the mid-60s switched to the GOP. The white southern DNC that existed for about a hundred years is just about dead now. Also, many southern black people started to become Democrats from the time of FDR. The demographics of both parties have basically flipped, and bare little resemblance to what they were over half a century ago.
Boomers were the ones who began advocating during the civil rights..they were the hippies...
@@skulltakertheflamingswordo5792 There is no evidence for the claims you make as you can literally trace the politicians through the years as they are literally posted due to the public nature of their positions. Neck yourself commie, you can't just rewrite history to suit your narrative. The south didn't become majority republican until the mid to late 90s, 30 fucking years after the bigger pushes for desegregation and racial integration.
My boomer mother got the short end of everything and grew up extremely poor, so it's no wonder that today she understands what it's like for younger americans today. This video does a great job at explaining the reasons for the divide - namely experience. Lived experience explains why boomers are so reluctant to push back against the status quo politically; they had more socio-economic mobility than millennials and now that they are financially secure they don't understand that they burned the path to get there along the way.
Advise I got from a boomer about my depression
"Just be happy"
🤷♀️
best advice since sksksksksave the turtles
"Thanks, I'm cured!"
My goodness, what an idea! Why didn't I think of that?!
If your homeless
*Just by a house*
"Oh, you're dying? Well, then just stay alive! Its so simple!"
I always thought the “ok boomer” as for really judgy and mean boomers, like, discrimination and stuff like that.
OK, fellow boomers, suck it up. We deserve this and oh, so much more. We messed a lot of stuff for these younger folks, so the least we can do is be grateful about this and smile.
What exactly did you "mess up" on?
Kevin McLogan It’s not even bad.. this is hella tame
Shadow Ling exactly!
@@omi691 Could be argued that the booming economy of their time allowed the West to progress faster, increasing living standards and welfare quicker than ever. I wouldn't blame the generation for taking the opportunity for a good life even if it was bad for later generations either -- I'd do it too.
@Ivan I'm still trying to understand specifics and where the "fault" is? Boomers are not the government so I'm confused what they actually did wrong
Worst advice: My Mom's Preacher "You should get dressed up and go around town with a resumé and demand an interview or ask for applications. If you can't get a job on your own you deserve to be poor."
Best advice: My Grandma said "Spend good money on underwear, socks, and shoes. Things that touch your crotch and feet should be a bit more expensive."
Most Boomers are very ignorant of what Gen Z has to deal with. We can't afford a house, family, go to college, and work minimum 40 hours a week on minimum wage. This isn't the 50s. Our economy and environment had gone to hell.
Too add to the fact that Gen Z will become the old generation: Advancements in technology have been speeding up as time goes on. Their understanding of the world might be outdated by the time they turn 40.
if tech and pop culture stays almost alike, then id doubt it
However, the rise of the internet has tethered a lot of people to the front of most developments. As a result many people have it way easier transitioning over to new things, and the very fact that things change faster would logically result in people having an easier time adapting to new things.
@@DMAGAEscober thats one heck of an if. we're always going to push forward as a whole, even if some people are more senimental about the past than others.
That last part of the video is so crucial. As a (turning 30 in 7 days) Millennial, I understand all too well that if we don't learn from History, we will become the next "Ok Boomer" when the time comes.
I will always make it a priority to listen to the younger ones because I know my reality in my 20s was completely different from what their reality will be during the same period. The cycle has to end somewhere. Are we gonna be better listeners to our children's generation than Boomer parents were to us? Only time will tell.
What's ignored is boomers are mindlessly selfish. Anyone who works in retail knows this. Every generation, older or younger, will normally buy their things and leave politely. However, if an atm doesn't work, they have to wait in line, you're not cheerful enough, a boomer will yell at you.
happy birthday
CzarJuliusIII Happy Birthday buddy! Hope your day was fun and you got some neat presents!
My Grandparents were early Baby Boomers, and my parents late boomers... My grandmother was all like "you'll never get a gob in the arts"... Not realizing that now-days, the major medium of the 21st century is Video Games, a medium that requires knowledge of a technical and mechanical skill that can be applied in other industries: namely Programming.
More-over, in the time since she passed away, Kickstarter and Patreon are major sources of funding for anyone looking to get off the ground, and even before that, online commissions for even drawing has been common.
... Meanwhile, my Boomer Mother took the more classical "get a job and pound the pavement" mistake.
In theory, they did give the good advice of "buckle down and do your work as soon as possible"... But they don't really understand that most of the time when I've had issues, it wasn't due to simply not wanting to do the work, it was because its a team project, and the whole thing is being bottle necked by one person who needs to produce something before the rest of the group can continue.
Oh man, you've got double the luck with your parents and grandparents. I am the complete opposite, my grandparents are silent generation, moreover european war children (all born before '45). My parents are Gen X (born in '69). So i can confidently say that my close family is boomer- free, and my god it shows.
My grandparents were (and still are) one the most supportive, lovely people to me. They grew up in a nation shaken by war and later occupation. They had nothing as kids and rebuilt their country, they got a lot of habits left from this time (They waste a lot of food because they are used to get and eat as much as they can, but since their bodies are old now they just over- estimate their appetite on a daily basis.) They also almost never talk about any part of their lifes that happened pre 1950.
They are extremely proud, for most of their grandchildren got a highschool- degree (or even an uni- degree), as it would be something special nowadays. Maybe the reason they are so supportive is that they can't really imagine that there could be "useless" things in higher education, they just label things that they can't comprehend. You do anything scientific/ technological? For them you are a 'doctor', an 'engineer' or a 'teacher'. You have any degree in design? You are an 'illustrator', a 'photographer' or a 'draughtsman'. They just can't imagine that there could be something like a "useless" education, as in their youth almost every form of job found application.
well to be fair, art and indie game developing are very risky fields to go in, since it’s commission-based
if you have an interest in programming there are still a lot of other jobs that need that, but just keep in mind not everyone is gonna succeed at game devving
Game development is an extremely difficult field to get into as a programmer. It requires a lot of knowledge about different types of technologies; most of which have absolutely nothing to do with what you would consider traditional "art". While 3D animators and artists are definitely used in the gaming industry and have a major role, they are VERY different from programmers in that they requires extremely different skill sets. Not only that, but most companies that would hire you as an animator/artist probably wouldn't expect you to know any kind of programming, because they would most likely want someone that was an expert in the field versus someone who knows how to spit out a couple of lines of HTML and CSS for their web page. While art careers have taken a very different approach in recent years, you can't compare an entire industry (game development) to 2 separate jobs in that industry (art/animation/3D design and programming/technical work). They are entirely different careers with entirely different levels of job opportunity and growth.
Gen Xers despise the Boomer generation for far more reasons, than just bad advice.
Thank you. ;o)
Gen x were the ones who took out loans they couldn't afford in 2008
Marcia Osullivan Yea! Damn those young adults trying to start families wanting own homes!
It was so silly of them to think that they should have a basic human right like housing, and that they should be able to afford a home like every generation before them.
The problem definitely wasn’t the people treating housing like a stock to make money off of and buying multiple homes to flip at a profit, it was those entitled kids from the 70s who just wanted a place to live.
@@MrSpleenface housing isn't a right and you can't get government to control prices and give gen x took out the loans
@@marciaosullivan3200Housing isn't a right?
Tell that to the UN
A) Government WAS regulating the prices in this situation. They specifically took action to depress the price of loans, making people effectively able to borrow more than they could afford.
B) Government doesn't need to regulate PRICES to stop what happened. I'm pretty libertarian, but the idea that a bank can give out an extremely risky loan, package it into a financial product, go to a pay-for-play rating agency, and then turn around and sell that product as if it's a sure bet and not a prayer that people with no job can somehow afford a mortgage on a half million dollar home seems off to me. Feels like at least one of those links should be broken, or there should be some fraud trials.
C) The idea that the banks can make these gambles knowing taxpayers are forced into footing the bill also seems like a problem to me, and you seem to have a problem with government compulsion, so I'm sure you'll agree.
Best boomer advice I ever got, "if you're not having fun, you're doing something wrong." it's not always in the forefront of my mind, but when I do remember it, it helps me remember to take a break once in a while and not take life so seriously.
"Marks the end of friendly generational relations"
Cowabunga it is boomer.
It's almost as if old people haven't hated young people and vice versa since the dawn of time lol
As a Gen X'er, I got weak advise from Boomers my whole life.
wait, they talked to you?
@@jaewok5G mostly to tell us grunge music was bad and dial back on the piercings.
I'm generation X, with silent generation parents. I think I was lucky in some way. On the other hand I feel related to generation Z. I never had a car and am a vegetarian. I took the plane twice in my life. I always had the feeling things were going down with us polluting the planet.
No, you got sound advice that went over your head because your face was buried in your dumb phone.
@@dan1of10bechtold6 - Phones that could browse the internet weren't invented until Gen X were over 30 years old.
Boomers always gave bad advice because they had it the easiest of all the living generations.
Wait, I'm a 96 baby. Am I millennial or a gen z? 👀👀👀
We're mixed generational
@@dickcheesemcgee6978 that weird middle year that no one talks about. 😂😂😂
Depends on how you perceive the world, since you are at the cusp, literally.
@@dickcheesemcgee6978 half millennial, half gen a. 😂😂😂
Millenial- he screwed up the date ranges
I think that the most impactful advice I have ever recieved from across generational lines is "don't wait to go to college, you need a degree to get a job." Now I work as a restaurant manager, making less than an entry level McDonalds employee in my state, saddled with a mountain of debt, and I didn't even have the money to finish the last 5% of my physics degree. I don't think that it was meant to be harmful advice, but I do think that it was the single most damaging bit of "wisdom" imparted to me.
"Call down son it's just a meme"
2029: "ok zoomer"
By then we should try and be more in touch with them. Lol
Bro chill, thas actually kinda close lol
Quick reminder that Rhapsody in Blue goes public domain on January 1st.
Whats it mean to you?
???
I think Felix the Cat supposedly went public last year for his 100th birthday, but wiki says NBC/Comcast has the rights. Companies keep finding ways to thwart it. Would you believe that Superman and Batman should be public domain by now, but the rules were changed.
"ok boomer" is also used against many gen X adults.
its like they are almost the same.
@@DMAGAEscober To be fair, GenX got a taste of the idyllic life the boomers had before it all faded away. Millenials grew up with promises of prosperity and optimism, but it had already vanished by the time they were old enough to start looking outward in the world. They're both stories of hope that died, but at least GenX got to taste the nectar of what might have been.
Boomer is a voluntary state of mind
I once had to give important advice to my dad. He'd lost his job and was about to look for another one, started talking about filling out paper applications and greeting the manager, like what he'd do when he was young. Minor problem, my dad was young 30 years ago, and the process of getting a job is completely different now. So without even thinking, I said "don't do that dad. You need to fill out an online application", and my mom said "listen to your daughter, she's right"
“Go to college”
“Get a good job”
“Invest in gold and bonds” (even though bonds are going to negative interest yields)
OK boomer 👌🏽
Not only are stocks and bonds shot to hell, but gold is *really* f@^kin' expensive.
Real Estate is where its at. Stupid ass boomers.
ben trimble stocks are doing fine rn I’ve been doing good on stocks but I will never buy a bond or precious metal
economy is building up to crash, gold and minerals is where its at.
Dexorne yeah that’s what everyone’s been saying for the past few years, good luck being a shookboy and keeping money on the sidelines or in gold fr. Bitcoin is where it’s at
"Boomer is a voluntary state of mind"
"As [Gen Z] will someday become the older generation..."
Mr. Arguments, I think you grossly overestimate how long I expect my lifespan to be.
With all due respect Mr.CheapJoke
You are not an entire generation.
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@@smaurf2499 We'll see how future generations fare lifespan-wise with all the pollutants and micro-plastic in the air, food and water.
@@Killicon93 okay doomer
I told my grandma that I was struggling with my engineering degree but enjoying it. Instead of encouraging me she told me that perhaps acting school would be better suited for me...
I am a millennial, and some of the best advice I ever got was from someone even _older_ than a boomer, older even than the so-called "Greatest Generation"! I'm talking about Dale Carnegie, born in 1888, author of "How to Win Friends and Influence People". At first, I thought that a book written 83 years ago would be amusing in how outdated it was, but I was actually _really_ surprised at how relevant it is! Only one or two things in the whole book stood out to me as being a bit anachronistic, but overall, the whole thing seemed to provide excellent, timeless advice on getting along with people and building good relationships. I _especially_ needed help with this having grown up with undiagnosed Asperger's syndrome. (It was eventually identified by a therapist I saw as an adult.)
I definitely heard my share of awkwardly anachronistic job-search and financial advice (e.g. search for a job by driving around looking for "help wanted" signs and walking into places; buy a house) from my late dad, who was a boomer, but he also had some good advice about being kind to others and to myself, about doing my best, and being okay with that. He used to tell me "All you can do is all you can do, but all you can do is enough." I did not always see eye-to-eye with him, but I am really grateful for the dedication, love, and support that he showed me.
4:53 “they don’t know that they don’t know” sounds suspiciously like the Dunning-Kruger effect, which I’m seeing as a bigger and bigger problem these days.
Best advice I've ever gotten and it can apply equally to any generation. (Old Teddy Roosevelt quote)
Do the best you can with what you have.
My family always used to use the phrase "do we need to cut it off or dig a hole" then I developed generalized anxiety. And now may be going through a mild case of psychosis. Thanks boomers for making me believe if I sustained any damage that unless I was dead or dying I didn't need help.
Worst boomer advice: Going to college will guarantee you a higher paying job.
Yeah, I can't tell people about the skilled trades enough. In my field (machining) I can expect to make about twice minimum wage at entry level. As a Machine Operator, pretty much all I have to do is press a button and load the machines and I can make $20/hr right off the bat. Wages only go up from there.
EDIT: as an aside, I have applied to *maybe* 10 different workplaces around my area an have gotten 2 interviews, and I haven't even finished highschool. Skilled trades might be just the thing for you.
now: going to college is the only way to get a high paying job
It's easy to tell people to "seek a job, get a house, etc." When you come from a generation where all that stuff was handed to you without the need for any prerequisites.
I've always used the term "entitled middle class" to refer to their attitudes.
Nothing was handed to them. They just lived in different time, where demand for physical labor was high. Nowadays it is mostly about IT. Also, because of illegal work immigrants who get paid less it is almost impossible to get a job without being a wage slave. Why would they want you if they can get Fernando for half the price?
@@ljuc "Handed to them" is a figure of speech. It means their lifestyle obtainable with little to no effort. I didn't literally mean they got it for nothing. I said the same thing you said, just more creatively.
Also, most low wage jobs are done by legal migrants. The "illegal jobs" is fairly rare in most areas.
And don't let the young uns' off the hook either. My generation (Gen X) and later ones did have it easy in many ways that boomers couldn't dream of. They were mollycoddled to the point of being weak when it comes to responsibility and character.
That "wage slave" excuse is one of the many that they use to get out of demanding labor (something the boomers were willing to do when their unions ran out of excuses for them to avoid it.) There are many trade fields that don't require starting life out with fifty thousand dollars of debt, they just think of those jobs as too demeaning. Too many of them expect to get some kind of internet writing job that will pay them enough to afford all of their pop culture garbage and allow them to play video games and watch cartoons all day.
@@Pelcurus
>Also, most low wage jobs are done by legal migrants.
That is the reason why they are the lowest wage. We got the same problem in Latvia and Russia. I can only judge by us.
My issue with "OK, boomer!" is, that it's being used as a weapon to silence people from the conversation just because you don't like what they're saying or just because they're elderly. As "mansplaining" has been used.
I've been called a boomer multiple times, but I'm early millenial.
So it matters how it's being used. If you over use it, or misuse it, it'll lose it's meaning.
You just described why "ok boomer" became a meme. That's the joke. You don't mean to tell me you've never heard the phrase "boomer isn't an age, it's a mind set," do you?
ok boomer
lmao
Kinda true, but maybe it's also used as fireback since "Boomers" also consider Gen z and y as if they don't know anything they're talking about and usually don't listen to them? I mean, everyone has his way to shut down an opposing opinion.
ok millennial
Here's the question, though: how much of an issue is it to you? And if it's a big one - why? What do you gain to lose by someone retorting to you so crudely? "Ok boomer" is supposed to be used as a show of ironic willful ignorance, as a mirror against the self-entitlement and arrogance of out-of-touch, forceful, unsolicited and unhelpful opinions. Is that the type of advice you're giving others? Why? Do you want to rub your superiority in their face? And if that isn't the type of advice you're giving - then why would you have an issue with someone getting defensive over it? Is it not up to them to judge the advice for themselves?
In other words, just smirk and retort "yeah, whatever zoomer :^)".
my dad usually gave good advice except when it came to dating. the whole concept of dating was nearly unrecognizable between 1970 and 2000. the idea you might date multiple people was apparently nbd in the 70s, and the very act of asking someone out in high school had morphed into some kind of pseudo-proposal that indicated a daunting level of commitment wholly alien to what my parents were used to. added to this, the social gatherings and community events that casual dating revolved around in the 70s (going to the roller rink or sock hop or whatever) had all but disappeared. it was hard to explain that no, I couldn't just "ask her out" it was more complicated than that! 😑
I have, in fact, been given amazing advice by a boomer: "Save as much as possible." It's pretty much always good advice, tbh.
I can't wait for 30 years in the future when "OK Millennial" becomes a meme.
Millennials have always been everyone's favourite punching bags. It'll be nothing new. Way back, there actually used to be some concern for millenials having too little recess time, backpacks that were too heavy, and the like. That vanished pretty quick. Millennials literally can do nothing right. Anything they do will be re-interpreted as wrong or evil somehow. That probably won't end well.
I personally hate the notion of generations. Generations are just something that we as humans made up to try and categorise different groups of people. The generational years that have been stated here are just one of at least 6 different generational categories that I have seen.
The truth is that we as humans are extremely diverse and unique, and it is unfair to make generalised statements about an entire demographic of people based on their age which doesn't take into account the differences in upbringing and quality of life among other things (which this video addresses). A persons opinions should be addressed as only that; the opinion of an individual, and not the opinion of everyone in that same age bracket.
'OK Boomer' as a retort I think is absolutely ridiculous, because it makes it appear like the one who said it doesn't have a legitimate counter-argument to the statement made.
To call back on a previous Counter Arguments video on 12 Angry Men, 'OK Boomer' comes across as an insult, which just serves to antagonise the person you're talking to, shutting down any possibility of having a reasonable conversation. This goes for any argument that places a person into a specific category, whether it be by age, sex ("mansplaining"), religion, politics, race, etc.
While it may be true that specific patterns are more prevalent in different groups of people than in others, it's still unfair to paint all members of a specific group with the same brush. In my experience, when you have a proper conversation with someone, you'll be surprised by how varied people truly are even when they appear to be quite similar in terms of age.
I find it completely hypocritical to stand up against judging people by race, then turn around and completely deny someone their right to an opinion or speech because of their age. If anything, I'd even argue "OK Boomer" is just another form of bigotry. I'm sure originally, it was intended as a joke, which sure, when said ironically, can be funny, but it has devolved into just another way to disregard people because of an irrelevant aspect of who they are. I'm not equivocating suffering of minorities to those of boomers; I'm just saying using someone's age to justify being an asshole to them is just as shitty as any other arbitrary aspect, like race, religion, income, weight, etc.
Not sure I would categorize it as completely hypocritical, though there is a hint of irony. If their standard was to be 'intolerant of intolerance', then this wouldn't exactly violate their paradigm (given the right circumstances). I think some of the people that use it perceive the other party as being intolerant and not very understanding of their 'generation's' problems. But it's also a feature of the younger members of society to jump to conclusions of the speaking party as I'm sure it's also happened if they mistakenly perceive someone to be racially bigoted and cuts off the conversation. Though I also find this meme to be annoying, I still try to not jump to conclusions about the user of the meme and give them some charitable interpretation. I hope this just comes with age and experience.
@@ihatejasonfu I don't exactly get how someone can misconstrue not understanding a problem as intolerance. In the context of the video, "OK Boomer" is used as a retort to poor advice. Giving sincere advice, no matter the quality, is a sign of good will, and wanting to help. There might be agitation in their tone, but they are giving advice because they care. How is trying to help someone being intolerant of them? Sure non-helpful advice can be annoying, but to be disrespectful in turn, and make negative comment about how they don't know anything, because no one their age knows anything is a gross over reaction, and a bigoted move: just as bigoted as making a negative comment about someone because of any other arbitrary, innate, immutable aspect of their life.
@@ThatGamerDude9000 This is why i use the phrase 'given the right circumstances'. It might be my own bias, but the contexts that I see it used are blanket statements on 'millenials' or 'kids these days'. This might not cover all the contexts, but did this phrase not originate from the inundation of pure criticism with no solution? 'Millenials are lazy and entitled' or 'millenials dwell in their parents basement' in isolation does not seem like advice. And in most contexts, 'work harder' is not really advice either. I think the notion of the older generations being 'intolerant' doesn't come from nothing. It's the over-generalization of this sentiment to anyone making a critique that precedes advice is where things falter. But I do believe that you could find such over-generalizations in anyone who holds this principle, be it race, gender, income status, place of origin, etc.
@@ihatejasonfu well, to me, those cases just seem like petty, eye for an eye BS that makes the world blind, forgive the cliche. If someone is being a dick, just give 'em a "go f*** yourself, you are being an asshole." As you said, it's some cases, so it's not like it's a systemic problem that needed an innovative solution (not calling OK Boomer innovative by any stretch of the imagination, but it is a "new term").
my parents thought i was stubborn because i kept immediately pointing out the obvious problems with the majority of their advice, despite sometimes accepting their advice, and taking advice from others quite well. to account for this, they had the ingenious idea to implement their suggestions behind my back, never informing or asking for my opinion, sometimes ruining my routines and schedules, all because they didn't like how they felt when i criticised their ideas. they also constantly reprimanded me for not being independent enough, which is funny since they never taught me how to be independent, what with them being at work for months on end, and me always busy buying the groceries and figuring out how to live alone.
At this point, my brain has developed a psychological link to hearing ragtime music and feeling like I'm about to hear something very interesting and reasonable. Thanks, @CounterArguments!
Great video my guy
“Ok Gen Z” idk why but that killed me lol
Love your work! Keep it up!
“Travel the world for experience” yeah ok because I have the money for THAT when I can’t afford McDonalds Susan
That's weird... I could never afford McDonalds, ever.
It's like when they say, "If you don't like _ then move," when moving to another country is too expensive for some of us to afford.
@@someone2973 RIGHT?
I love how people talk about how "ok boomer" is so "rude" and "agresive to older generation", when in reality, not only is a joke to a mindset and not your age, but is the equivalent of saying "yeah, whatever you say buddy" with sarcasm, this only show that the older generations and the alt-right were the real snowflakes all along.
they dislike it because "ok boomer" dismisses their point, nobody likes to be dismissed, especially internet-newbies who take what people say on the internet too seriously.
@@dexorne9753 yup, and "Boomers" are the one most often dismissing anything younger generations bring to the table. I mean then boomer mindset as understood by the internet community (if there is one) , of course.
@@LeDingueDeJeuxVideos that is true and all, but when has fire ever extinguished fire?
@@dexorne9753 Myes?
I've been given better advice by boomers than I have by Milennials (people my age) or younger. That much I know.
Thank you!Your take on "OK Boomer" meme was much better than Infographics Show's one.
Yours showcased issue, how to explain it, while theirs was TL;DR ignore them.
Some of the best advice I got in my working career (film editor) is from boomers, and they all have helped me work up the ladder. They have thoughtfully and less judgmentally pointed and explained which path to take. Whether it's for high paying spots, ease of work-flow, or, creative fulfillment. The real ones I talk too, recognize that things are not as easy as it was when they were young. Once was told "The buying power of $3 to $5 when I was 10 years old, feels like $20-$25 in today economy.".
I feel like most of this is only true for the US. As a Dane who gets paid ~800 $ by the state because I am studying, there has never been a generation here in northern Europe that had it better.
My aunt once told me, when they wanted to raise tuiton fees by 50% in my country, that I should have thought twice about buying an iPhone. She was dead serious.
My grandmother kept suggesting i work at an assembly line or an amazon warehouse while going to college. Two places with generally horrific working conditions that would not be flexible to a college schedule.
Don't Americans have part-time contracts? It's good to work a little bit when you're in college especially if you have to pay for rent
@@TheHeavyModd At retail, yes. I worked at a grocery atore for a bit. And i could work nights because I had school during the day.
Assembly lines and warehouses generally no and are open for the same 8 hours a day every day. They also have terrible working conditions.
Note that "terrible working conditions" means that you'll be worked to the point of physical exhaustion, mental breakdown, and giving you permanent, lifetime injuries from your body's joints breaking down. Then they just fire you (no real health insurance) and hire the next desperate debt-slave to fill your spot.
@@Thalanox wait, you mean this is the 1800s?
@@pajamas720 yes
I’ve only received valid advice from people in gen x. Most advice from boomers have been “just get a job” and that will solve all my problems
My dad is the only boomer I 100% respect
Instead of me teaching video games to him, he taught video games to me
Im just saying it because its funny.
Im still waiting for the day my grand children say "ok Zoomer"
I remember when I turned 16 and my dad, who had run his own business for years and worked in a specialized field where he would pretty much always have a place, just couldn't seem to grasp the idea that job applications are filled out online and that me not getting a job wasn't due to laziness.
“just walk in and ask for an application” “you gotta look them in the eye in the interview”
“it’ll get better”
“there’s plenty of fish in the sea”
“kids these days wouldn’t survive a day without there phones”
*pats on head* feeling better? I'm not a boomer but I can tell that I got work the way you just mocked about (excluding the phone one of course, I needed to call diff companies. duh) But you wanted advice and help didn't you? Oh no you didn't? Then put a sock in it before mocking those advices
My Grandparents (Boomers) gave FAR better advice than my Parents (Gen X)
My grandfather constantly told me from the time I was in high school (graduated in 2008) to current day that I need to get out there and turn in paper applications. That I need to walk in the door and ask if they are hiring lol. I learned a long time ago that most people that work in places, even managers, have no idea if they are hiring or not. You get next to nothing productive out of it unless the person who just so happens to be doing the hiring is a boomer themselves. Then you may get some brownie points acting the way they would want you to act, but that's increasingly not the case.
You're an actual meme if you can't apply the concept to the current age.
It just means make an effort to apply for as many jobs as you can.
There are hundreds of job websites that cater everything from executives, senior professionals, trades and graduate positions to your local fish n' chips shop.
Applying for jobs only gets easier once you have experience. But weak people will be discouraged when they are denied for lack of experience.
@@MrSystemStatic That isn't what that means.
That advice generally means to impress your employers with initiative to get the job.
Y'know just walk in there and give 'em a firm handshake.
@@smaurf2499 Thanks big fella. It's not a far cry to extend it to something relevant to this age.
Alot has changed in terms of getting an interview, but not much has changed in how to conduct yourself once you have it. As a recent grad I can say that advise from boomers on how to act in a job interview was really helpful. Write a one page resume, wear nice clothes, make eye contact, etc. etc. Is just as solid advise today as it was in 1960
regarding the advice to not fill out forms online but go out there: this was an advice given by my mom that atleast in austrias job market today is still relevant. Most companies, especially ones hirng students, employ seesponges as their hr team. Unless you write multiple emails, call in, ask for an interview, they will probably be too lazy to even process your application. Showing incentive has paid of for me multiple times and non of my jobs were before 1015
I thought boomers hated millennials and didn't even recongise Gen Z. In my experience the issue other generations have with boomers is their lack of education on climate change, rejection of science, and acceptance of discrimination(compared to more recent generations as that's been a trend going on for ages).
According to boomers, everyone born after 1980 is a millennial.
Generations are a subjective topic.
People aren't born in tune with a calander.
Gen Z are becoming all adults is why this is being so brought to light
This is the problem with generalisations. I know several Boomers. Over half of them are highly educated. Almost all of them embrace science. Almost none of them accept discrimination. All of them see the problems with the environment and agree change is needed. True, one or two only recently changed their minds. But they did change their minds.
In all honesty I do believe that the problem here is one of mutual distrust. If you can't see there are Boomer scientists and that it actually were Boomer scientists who got the whole climate change ball rolling (with most of the initial studies and several calls to action)... Well, then there's very little hope generations will ever get along.
@@DutchRetroGuy Of course there is an issue with generalisations. No one is saying ALL boomers think this, nor was I trying to say all Millennials accept science. I'm sorry but the entire complexity of a person's worldview cannot be summed up in a neat and tidy youtube comment. They need some steelmanning otherwise you are going to flagrantly misrepresent what a person is saying.
Wait gen z the first generation to have a lower standard of life than the previous? Haven't millennials claimed that title?
In fact it isn't true, unless you're talking EXCLUSIVELY about the US, UK, mayyybe Canada or Japan and that's it
The rest of the world is in the complete opposite
@@Azknowledgethirsty Oh, it's only in some areas then.
@@Azknowledgethirsty . The whole generations thing is largely an American concept, and maybe also applies to the West. That's why the arguments are so West-centric. Obviously things are getting better in countries that are developing, but in the West things are not.
@@rebecca4680 I'm european and I can say that it doesn't reflect the reality at all of mainland Europe, it is in fact the opposite, here after ww2 boomers had a very rough time and their quality of life was very bad, I can definitely tell you that it does not apply to the west as the entirety of western Europe had the opposite experience
In fact boomers here share many traits with their American counterparts but not because we're worse off than them, in fact we live way better than them, your argument does not hold
4:08 - SW Engineer here. Call the hiring manager or whoever is listed is a good way to get red flagged for the future postings. We don't get impressed by you calling, your resume is what impresses us.
Well my parents were from the Silent Gen. From my mother I got the best advice for today; way more valuable than it was in her time. "Never put anything in writing you would not want the whole world to see".