Splaining
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- Опубліковано 26 вер 2024
- An original argument constructed to counter a concept.
The Concept: If you are privileged, then you're not in a position to differ with/educate less-privileged people on topics relevant to their identity.
Advocates: Progressives.
The Argument: Assuming that certain people's opinions are less valid than others' is prejudice and it hinders certain conversations.
Advocates' Fault: Narcissism and pigeonholing.
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If I see a helicopter stuck in a tree, I don't have to be a helicopter pilot to know that somebody fucked up.
Damn you, rogue helicopter pilot!!
Best. Comment. Ever.
Steve White If Eberts law, basically states that you don't need to in the profession to be able to critique how someone does in their profession.
I'm stealing this, thanks in advance
...but if the Pilot happens to be a black handicapped left handed one eyed lesbian with orange hair and acne, who gender identifies themselves as a starfish, you have no right to make that call you, you splainer!
that EXplaining joke was great
EXsplaining*
@@piecekeeper5317
Nice commentsplaining
Yepp hahah
I hate that we live in a time where not discriminating is considered discrimination
Maybe up there in the US. Down here in south america things aren't as bad as up there (although we have our sjw of our own sadly)
@@Samuel-qc7kg Are you kidding? Here in South America it's just as bad, if not worse.
@@leonardoalvarenga7572 Yo se que varios paises se están influenciando por estas ideas norteamericanas. Paises como Argentina están cayendo en esta doctrina, pero es innegable que estamos mejor que ellos aún.
@@Samuel-qc7kg In Chile have Rightsplaining (People that voted or would've voted"Si" to keeping A. Pinochet's regime, or rather anyone politically from the right wing even if they would've voted "No"), Cuicosplaining (People that live in the higher society of Santiago and are wealthier), Chileansplaining (Anyone that's not Mapuche or that doesn't have a Mapuche Last Name AND/OR Anyone that has been born and raised Chilean compared to inmigrants), Mansplaining too, Oldsplaining, Christiansplaining, Straightsplaining and Metropolitansplaining (Someone who lives in Santiago compared to people in the outer regions) and maybe more, we just don't use the "splaining" word because we speak spanish. Heck maybe even Englishsplaining because i speak english and most don't. Well not Maybe, I lost a friend or two because of that i can't even explain the english words i use!!
I Feel personally attached to many of those... here in South America is not better
Help me i have this problem in my university :'v
Anyone but not yet: "You live in Chile you can't talk about South America as a whole"
So am I Chileansplaining (with a third meaning) then??
>Agrees to be on show picking people based on merit
>Doesn't pick based on merit
nice
I think there needs to be a balance of both, especially with the writing aspect of the show as it can be really useful to have perspectives which relate to the stories being told and can help with realism. For example on "Teen" shows like riverdale the dialogue can be really clunky due to their lack of actual teens or at least young people in the writing process.
@Graig Simmonette I Understand her point and I would agree with it up until things inevitably get out of hand and all of the sudden a film has to be directed by a person of the culture who inspired it. But I do agree on the idea that people off different backgrounds (especially if they are in relation or share experience with the theme of the film) can bring important context that would otherwise be not understood or possibly deemed as not important. With that being said within the context on this issue I would have not agreed with what she said not matter how she said it and I think that what I said above does not apply in this context. The show is about picking the most talented film makers and giving them a shot based on objective film making skills, not picking them based on their film making skills as while as how they could possibly shoot that specific film better. They are legitimate opinions that I agree with but within the context of the show I don't think should be considered because it is not about the specific film they decided to get them to make to test out their skills. If it were then you would just get the film makers who were closest in ethnicity or experience to a the story they picked and not the best film makers. Although I am just speculating on this I think that If they had told them to make a film about a straight white guy it all of the sudden wouldn't have mattered about the perspective and experience of the film maker and the film maker being a white straight male although possibly having a closer connection to the meaning of the film would not be considered as a reason.
@Graig Simmonette You can hire advisors.
Yeah, snakes that slither in like this need to be thrown out right away
The word "merit" is subjective by definition. Are you saying they aren't worthy? Based on what? To some perspective and vision is important, to others, fitting in is, and others still, just having the largest portfolio.
As a wise man said: ''The more you make an issue of race and gender, the more you make race and gender an issue''
Isn't that Morgan Freeman?
I'll quote that
Which is why "Affirmative Action" is bullshit - it's about hiring or enrolling people based on their race or gender, instead of on their skillsets and ability, just to tick a checkbox and avoid being yelled at by bigots.
"Affirmative Action" needs to die. "Equal Outcome" needs to die, too. Equal Opportunity? Sure, but _not_ Outcome. Don't force women into roles they might not want, or don't have the skillset or personality for. 40% of CEOs do not "have" to be women; just however many have the skills, mindset, and the want.
Too an extent, that can be the case. People being extra can cause others to get annoyed and arguing back, especially if the people who got annoyed feel as if they are getting blaimed for something.
However, that isn't to say that it is never a good idea to speak out. For example, if black people and women didn't make a big deal over the fact they couldn't vote then they still would be unable to. Gay people would still be unable to marry if they didn't speak out.
Not speaking out means you are stuck in a rut you cannot escape, but speaking out on something trivial or using past actions of bigotry against you to justify bigotry against someone else is wrong.
This can really be applied to whatever, not just gender and race. As I mentioned, it can apply to sexuality. But it can also apply to more conservative or religious standpoints as well. The war on christmas, getting upset at "anti-christian" things that have nothing to do with Christianity, certain ideas from the south especially considering the confederacy, among others.
I don't know who said the quote or how wise they were, but I can tell by where and when you're choosing to use it that you are not the brightest one around.
Are you aware that the statement "I am spanish, therefore I probably know more about spain than a person who isn't" is not "making an issue" of anything? Can you understand that simple rationale? Yes, maybe the non-spanish person can research, study and know more than the local. Chances are they won't, though, and they'll have no idea what it's like to live in Spain, no matter how much they read on it.
See, this is why terms like "mansplaining" even exist, because of idiots everywhere who keep talking out of their asses and get offended when others that know better correct them. Please stop talking about shit you don't know and please, please stop feeling so smug and smart about stuff you're so damn wrong about, you're just ridiculizing yourself. Thank you.
The "-splaining" argument = "I supposedly have it harder to than you therefore I'm right, facts notwithstanding."
There's so much wrong with the logic of 'splaining', i'd just switch off and stop listening when anyone uses this word.
Big Ray I miss the days when splaining was something only the protagonist of I Love Lucy had to do :)
You should probably throw in a kowtow for good measure. You don't necessarily have to be fully horizontal, but your palms and forehead should touch the floor, at least.
The whole logic of these far left, 'victim' groups IS "I exist, therefore I'm right!" To borrow from Martin Luther, we could call it the principle of Justification By Existence Alone.
After all, it makes being virtuous as easy as possible: Simply be born to the 'right' group. That's it. And the whole point of "'splaining" is like all these other thoughtcrime laws & rules- to eventually make it illegal to criticize or impede these people.
Matt Damon was completely right. Choosing somebody based off of who they are and not their abilities might be diverse, but is the furthest thing from equal or non-prejudiced. Picking somebody for a job because they are a woman, or of color, or any kind of minority/under represented group means that ALL you see in that person is that they are a woman or black or what have you. It means that women and minorities aren't good enough to get jobs based solely off their merit, which is completely wrong. I don't want my surgeon to be my surgeon because she was a black woman, I want my surgeon to be my surgeon because he or she was the best damn surgeon I and the hospital could find.
True, but how do you objectively judge ability in a subjective field like film making? Is perspective an objectively valuable skill or nah?
Ryan Leon It would be very hard to to, but if anybody could do it, I would say that room of extremely successful filmmakers could. If the point of the show was to choose the best filmmakers based off of their subjective ideals of good film making, then BOTH of them could have been right. I just tend to agree with Matt. But either way people being mad at Matt was completely ridiculous.
You're making the assumption tha that's the only reason she picked them. In the clip they showed, she simply brought up the point that their perspective was worthy of merit, not that that point was their ONLY merit.
Using race and gender to pick a film maker is not like someone becoming a surgeon just because they're a black woman. A better analogy is that you need surgery, and there are a lot of top notch surgeons out there, but some of them specialize in heart surgery and others in plastic surgery and you need to find the one who has the most experience with your specific medical condition.
Isn't choosing based on ability instead of race true equality?
+La Polilla
Yes, and you are judging their special abilities by their gender and race, even though they've never made the same experience as the portrayed character. Your argument "stands on very thin ice", like the Germans use to say.
She's actually trying to interrupt him. How were they even capable of spinning it as him talking over her? He hasn't finished talking and multiple times she tries to chime in...
He did the same exact thing to her. To be clear, i agree with his opinions about the concept on "splaining", but he most definitely did start talking over her and didn't let her talk again until he was finished with his points. 3:42
dirty donkey she was done talking lol no more points to be made
@@nzbg1132 Lol, no. She obviously wasn't done talking because she was still trying to talk, regardless of whether she has any more points to make, you guys can't say that he never interrupted her when he blatantly did. It'd be an ignorant statement to make.
@@juanbejarano62 When someone interrupts you and you talk over them, that's not equivalent to you interrupting them.
Gee, piling all the blame on the woman. I wonder what sex and race OP is.
It offends me that Jaws wasn't directed by a Shark or at least a Piranha.
That was for Piranha 3D
"open minded" people are too close minded to even consider this.
@Lawtyboy hahahah good one man!
This might be surprising to you, but some people are actually smart enough to notice the bullshit in this video.
you know, you can be open minded and still think logically.. those kinds of arguments are often only made by people who only profit of acting open-minded
@@GiustinoColameo That's why he put it in quotes.
those people are called 'woke'
"There is no womansplaining"
Actually, I believe the term is "matronizing".
Keep that one. Its a good one.
V1cT I actually found “cuntfussing” rather amusing.
I liked 'chicksplaining'.
@@commandercorner5575 ma boi u be watching chris raygun?
@@samshadessss It's been awhile, but yes. That was a good episode.
@@commandercorner5575 yeah man my bad its been like 8 months but like you said it was a good episode.
I am still waiting for the day that i can use that word
Matt Damon wanted to leave diversity out of it, and hire the best man/woman/Caucasian/Vietnamese for the job. I just don't understand why this is even a thing. He wanted to select someone based fully on merit. Never apologize to the SJW crowd Damon.
+llriv That's not a "left" vs "right" opinion. That's an SJW opinion. It's a "lets be politically correct" opinion. It's a "MY FEELINGS ARE HURT, I DEMAND TO SPEAK TO YOUR MANAGER" opinion.
llriv I'm sure there are some. The world isn't black and white.
But beyond that, just because some SJWs self-identify towards the left, doesn't mean everyone who is on the left is an SJW.
Logic doesn't work that way.
An square is a shape, but that doesn't mean that all shapes are squares.
llriv Woman can bear children, but not all woman are child bearers.
Sorry, you need to go back to basics and learn how to apply logic.
llriv That's not how logic works. Ugh. It's like trying to talk to a toddler.
llriv You're so far off topic.
It makes me think of the old quote, "Where there is only shouting, there is no wisdom." - I forgot who said that. :/
I think it was Leonardo da Vinci
Poludeli Gušter
Ah yes, the painter
It was the wisdom man
Nice
@@ugaboga9829 It's a bird!
It's a plane!
It's wisdom man!
when someone who is recently dumped tries to tell you about relationships: ex-splaining
Good one
@@barrylucas505 Gosh, I can't be the only who giggled like a happy baby at that part! XD
Well played with the puns, Counter Arguments(or insert real name) sir, Well played! :)
Get out
ya got me
14:20 The real controversy is that the boy thought Promethius was a good movie.
Fell asleep while watching that movie. I have a short attention span.
Underrated comment ^
Thems fighting words
Well, it did perfect the concept of running away from things. I even heard they made a school about it.
I thought it was a terrific movie actually.. Covenant on the other hand....
Erm...What exactly did Damon do wrong here? Being British I do find it difficult to keep up with American sometimes. Did I miss something?
I suggest looking up "SJWs." They aren't all of us, but they sure are some of the loudest of us.
testertaster As far as I can see, he didn't actually do anything wrong whatsoever. He provided he viewpoint that the director with the most talent should win, and Brown essentially said the director with the most perspective should win. Neither of these viewpoints were particularly controversial, and so there was no real reason for people hating on Damon. I'm pretty sure it was just ignorance and the fact that people look for things to rage over (SJWs in particular).
I'm British and I've been aware of PC-culture for about 22 years. This isn't an American phenomenon.
Vibius Morquairch Oh wow. Way to miss the irony there. LMAO. Really letting the side down Vibius.
Yes, clearly he did nothing wrong apart from disagree with a feminist. Social cancer that feminism is...
Thank you for explaining splaining. I'm so sick of pushing 'diversity' in films. Are we not beyond this? The pigmentation of our skin should be as important as the color of our hair. I suppose my comment is splaining in of itself.
I rather like having diversity. Giving people exposure to marginalized groups helps them overcome prejudice towards those groups. I want more gay and bisexual characters in media to help with this issue. Although, I don't want diversity to get in the way of quality.
Ultimately merit will do that better than diversity for the sake of diversity. This reminds me of the Oscar controversy. Many people were upset that NO black actors were nominated for an Oscar. This argument falls apart by the term no black actors. The Oscars in its purest form is supposed to be about the privilege of merit. I say purest because the Oscars are not exactly pure and are biased towards its biggest money makers. BUT lets go back to its purest form here. When I hear no black actors I hear no one in particular. The argument shouldn't be no black actors the argument should be THAT black actor didn't get an Oscar for THAT part in THAT movie. By not giving a specific case or example they are leaving out the privileged accomplishment that is being ignored. Lets make believe here, lets say Morgan freeman wasn't nominated for an Oscar for Shawshank redemption. That would be a specific case of THAT black actor not winning an Oscar for THAT part in THAT movie. That would be a very good case of racism because Morgan Freeman's accomplishment was so over the top excellent that it would drive out all other variabilities and the only conclusion that could be made was racism. Thankfully Hollywood does recognize great performances and Morgan won his Oscar rightfully so.
+MustardSeedish So That's why they dye their hair crazy colors.
Stop SepiaSplaining
MustardSeedish but only men can mansplain. like swearing in church. only "priviliged oppressor"-groups can -splain.
brown: "I'm not mad"
*Is fidgety and sputtering for the rest of the video*
I still don’t understand this whole diversity over merit thing. It seems like it’s the whole “my friend’s black so I’m not racist.”
Except it’s “my staff’s diverse so I’m not racist.” One side has gotten this wildly wrong here
I think their argument is more along the lines of "in order to make a film about a diverse group of people, you need people on your staff who understand each group represented".
Of course, The flaw in this is that racial groups and the sexes are not nearly monolithic enough for this to make sense. 'I am a woman and he is Asian so we understand what it is like to be a black female prostitute'. Not likely. Instead, good filmmakers are people who are able to emphasize with and understand people who are unlike themselves since almost no character in the story will be exactly like themselves.
You know, it’s funny how these people stress empathy, but say it is impossible for someone not high enough on the victim hierarchy to imagine being someone higher up.
Get used to it. The Oscars went in that direction. Merit is dead.
It’s something like what Joseph said. But he missed one thing. It is more likely that a group of two marginalized people are going to understand another marginalized person than the most privileged people in the world who might not understand or see and may nerved have been put in a situation where he had to understand the perspective of the more unprivileged people in society
@@harmonicarchipelgo9351 To add onto this, if your making a film about tribes in Africa, a black U.S. citizen wouldn't know what those experiences were like (and depending on your opinions, either one could be "privileged"). They also could be white or Asian/yellow, not just black. Similarly, Oprah Winfrey and a black gangster probably don't have the same experiences despite being the same race and/or sex.
"Splaining" is just an elaborate and aggressive way to shut down different voices and perpetuate someone's perceived victimhood. It could go a little like this.
1. Two people, (let's say a man and a woman), are have a discussion (or so the man thinks), about some socio-political issue.
2. The woman makes a point that the man disagrees with and counters with a point of his own
3. The woman responses in a way that would either suggest that-
A. She legitimately didn't understand that point that the man made.
B. That she deliberately misinterpreted or twisted his words for the sake of either trying to disprove him, escalate the conversation into an argument, or quite literally bait him into doing what he perceives to be mansplaining.
4. The man rephrases his point in either a simpler or more detailed way, depending on where he believes the woman's confusion is coming from.
5. "Woah woah woah, did you just mansplain that to me?"
The conversation is over. No common ground is reached. The man is labeled as a douchefuck, the woman feels like she won the "argument", and the splaining myth and unproductive conversations continue to ring out into infamy.
I do not deny that situations of what could be actually be called mansplaining exist. I am sure that every day somewhere in the world, a man disrespectfully tells a woman how to do her own job. But that is not how this term is used. It is being brandished to eliminate what could be meaningful discussions between opposing perspectives, and has the potential to discourage and demean anyone who feels called to share (or explain) their point of view. Doesn't seem like an avenue towards equality and progressive to me.
There you have it. I've just mansplained about mansplaining. You're welcome.
@@vagabond6308 when you want to be a victim, but you are not, you need to manufacture victimhood. That's how mansplaining is born.
The whole thing about how you can't speak about things that aren't part of your immediate personal experience also tends to ignore the fact that sometimes there are people who are experts in a given topic just because they've studied it a lot. Also, you could argue that people very personally connected with something lack perspective and impartiality about it.
"Also, you could argue that people very personally connected with something lack perspective and impartiality about it."
Absolutely. Also, being heavily emotionally invested in a topic can reduce someone's general willingness to concede points to an alternate, perhaps opposing, viewpoint.
SpamTheManChan I honestly wonder if people just got tired of hearing from experts and ignorant people, so instead of getting shut down for taking it personally. They called them out on that (the fact that they literally can't take it personally) and maybe some marginalised people just want to compare and contrast problems and solutions from someone in the same situation as themselves.
Sergey Fox yes, but not all black women are prostitutes.
Whenever someone says "with love in my heart", they don't. Quite the opposite.
That's prejudice though, some people are true with their words
Yeah. You don't have to say it to show it. You don't have to say much of anything. Good people just do.
Your channel is by far the most straightforward, fair, and balanced social commentary channel I’ve seen on UA-cam
4:10 I find it so rude whenever someone groans and makes an "oh my goodness" face during an open discussion. It's like they're saying that they've already made up their mind and are not willing to even consider another position. In fact, if another person makes a point that is contrary to their beliefs, they will interrupt without hesitation. It's extremely unproductive to interject noises of disagreement while someone else is speaking.
“I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character”
-Martin Luther King Jr.
Not, “I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they are given exclusive privileges based solely on the color of their skin, ignoring the content of their character.”
"Ah, here's where you went wrong."
"Oho! Check your privilege. I don't NEED you to MANSPLAIN this to me!"
"Um, I'm you're calculus teacher? This is my job?"
"Oh, I am definitely tweeting this during lunch."
People should get jobs based on merit! OMG the horrors!
'Basing things entirely on merit'- SJW's go berserk at reasonable suggestions like that.
Well I don't, yet I'm being called an SJW all the time.
@@flerfbuster7993 WhAt hAvE yOu dOnE?¿?¿?
Let me Socialsplain it to you guys:
There are real social justice warriors, the ones who don't label themselves as SJW, that fight for real justice for everyone, regardless of gender, race, social status, nationality, age, religion, political stance, sexual preferences, and nutritional choices, and don't need to virtue signaling it. And there are the fake ones, the ones constantly virtue signaling themselves and other fake SJWs, that say they fight for inclusion and justice, but in reality, they are biased in favor of only one race and one gender and one sexual preference, and one nutritional preference and one political stance and one religion: black, women, LGTB..., veganism, liberal/left, atheism.
It's a trend on defending minorities and excluding majorities. Preaching about inclusion while doing exclusion.
Now you can ask yourself: "Am I a real SJW or a fake one?".
@@AngelHdzMultimedia We usually refer to fake SJW's as "Feminazis".
@@zacke.1286 Yeah, feminazis or feminists or misandrists are part of the Fake SJW's culture.
For the record, finishing your statement when someone is trying to interrupt you is a pretty savvy way to avoid having your voice silenced. If these people are really concerned about people being marginalized by people who talk over them they should use Damon as a training video rather than criticizing his privilege.
I just realized that "if you are not being marginalized, don't speak, just listen" is by far the best example of the barber paradox I have ever seen. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barber_paradox
I like the *idea* of the sentiment...but it is absolutely prime for abuse if enforced. I think a much safer interpretation of it is that people at the tops of heirarchies have a responsibility to listen to the little guy and make sure they're being treated fairly, but the higher ups cannot be prevented from saying *anything at all.* 1. You may be silencing potential allies and 2. in the effort to prevent tyranny, you're just creating another tyranny with a new oppressed people. I thought we wanted to STOP that particular cycle.
+Counter Arguments This video should have been called "Splainsplaining".
He should rename the channel
What Matt Damon thought he was doing "I'm having a debate with someone about diversity."
What his PC critics heard: "Uruh Matt Damon! MATT DAMON! M-a-a-tt Daaaaamon!" whilst picturing him in Team America.
White people are is labeled as not diverse. I don't know about y'all but I'm Italian, Irish, Scottish, Polish and German. that sounds pretty darn diverse to me!
as a mediteranean french, south american, north african, indonesian, polish, german, dutch, jew, I agree.
Not only that but white people have blond, brown, red, black, and ginger hair and we have blue, green, gray, amber and brown eyes, and Europe consists of 50 different countries with many different languages and cultures.
If anything we are the most diverse of everyone
@@4nd3rzzon , well said.
@@4nd3rzzon I don't think we wuold be any more diverse than others, since the same goes with everybody else too. There is hardly any popolated area in the world where people don't have massive amounts of differing backgrounds or looks. Just think about the amount of foundation shades! Or check if you don't happen to know what I mean :D
I do agree with you in that way that people always find a reason to discrimininate if they want to. Ginger hair or green eyes, accent etc. can turn into something wrong in the hands of people who have to find a way to feel superior. My brother was teased about his super blonde, almost white hair throughout his childhood, like wtf now you're too white??
4nderzzon the name for the hair colour that gingers have is red hair, so ginger hair and red hair is the same thing
SJW's are the best at BSplaining
The thing is, Brown genuinely had a point about how that duo may have been able to understand and sympathise with some parts of the character’s experience, it’s just that the competition is about picking the best filmmaker(s) to give them a chance to show their skill and not about producing the best short film possible.
Thank you for so eloquently EXPLAINING what bothers me about this linguistic phenomenon! I would repost it on social media but I'm sure I would get accused of 'splaining' by my friends who are SJWs.
Mind you, Mr. Erickson, this video wasn't made for those who already resent this concept. It was made for those who endorse it. If you don't share this video with them, not only will you never change their mind, you're not helping this channel either. Share it. And if they accuse you of splaining, tell them that's not a counter argument.
+Counter Arguments
Touche! I went ahead and posted it on Facebook. Let's see how people respond. Although I won't be surprised if Facebook's echo-chamber-inducing logarithms prevent anyone who might actually be persuaded by it from seeing it in the first place. I know, I'm such a cynic.
hey man happy your posting how is your lawsuit going with UA-cam
+Tyler Rivers this is over 15 minutes long so it must have succeeded :^)
Happy to say that there never was a lawsuit. The matter was settled online and the channel is currently a good UA-cam citizen.
Happy to hear thanks for being kind to my ignorant self.
+Ciggbit Stop commentsplaining him!
+Counter Arguments Is there any way to get the episode on 'All about that bass'? Do we really have to burn Sony Music down(profit-wise)?
How DARE he say that we shouldn't hire people based on their race and gender!?
Splaining is literally "you're nickpicking and byase, I win bye bye"
9.5 something for everyone
"So you're telling me that marginalizing the marginalized is marginalizing? Impossible"
- The Extreme Left
7 minutes in I had a sudden urge to send this to all people who misunderstood Matt Damon lol... top five favorite actors
I came up with one, all by myself. 'Transexplaining'. When a transperson wants to explain to me what gender is. I don't know what gender is, obviously. I've never had one...
Others would say that those rigid boxes are right and that anything else is merely the delusion of a mentally ill people. But hey .03% of the population might genuinely agree with you , and a large portion may virtue signal to you making you think your right( but there really just using you in there own little political movements).
The rest of us well we know what gender is ( science is quite specific ) but we are only to happy to let you be what ever you want to be as honestly it doesnt effect us until you go out and Transexplaining as the op pointed out, as just and then you did it .
But hey what does culmination of the greatest scientific minds on earth have to compare with a confused mentally ill super minority ( which is what makes you such a great tool for liberals the more of a minority the stronger the virtue signalling you get for pandering to .)
Yes it may seem real for you but that doesnt re write biology .. A person with OCD doesnt have a normal behavior pattern , but strange you dont see them try to explain how everyone else is wrong in there day to day lives because this is how they do it ! There really doesnt need to be special rules for trans people just like there doesnt need to be special rules for OCD people you get ( or should get ) the exact same rights and defense of law as anybody else regardless of sex gender religion sexual prefrence race etc etc etc .
I have only ever interacted with one trans person in my life and he was a bloody good women . Didnt change that he was actually a man but he lived as a women so i afforded him the RESPECT he deserved and called him whatever he wanted ( as i would do for anyone else) .
I think you might be surprised how many of the cis gender people also suffer some sort of mental disorder but live fully productive mostly happy lives . Your a women who lives as a man cool, i wouldnt bat an eye lid if i walked into a toilet with you as well again it doesnt effect me at all you are YOU , and i would happily say you do you . Respect is a 2 way street , be a productive person following the laws of your country and you should live happily hopefully doing what all the rest of us do .
Identity politics is a stupid thing , you are a person , an individual not the some of a group but just another person like the rest of us . I would happily fight for your right to be you ( shit i fought 2 wars already for less noble things it would seem). Colour blind people dont see colours as most people do but they dont need to try and feel better by telling people there wrong about colour, so my advice would be stop trying to use pseudoscience to try and reconcile who you are , just be who you are and you might be surprised by how accepting the majority of people will be off you ( there will always be assholes who will pick on what you are there the same assholes who will pick on anything different from them )
I am not denying how you feel about yourself ( i have no right to do so ) I am denying that for the sake of feelings science should be re written ( gender being a social construct is pseudoscience, its neither factual or helpful in my opinion.
I wouldnt call you she in social interaction , as i already said i would call you by whatever naming convention you give me ( aka you introduce your self as Mr Smith then thats how i would address you . If we became friends id call you by whatever name you gave , say for example bob bill john etc etc. Its your personal identity thats important , not the identity politics that are now being engaged in.
As ex military and ex police the only time my identification of you would have been anything other than what you have given to me would be for example if you became the subject of a investigation due to immediate crime or you were in an opposing military force and i needed to identify you to other officers of the law or soldiers ( for example i dont go around calling African American people African American( there just Americans or just people) but if a suspect happened to be that i would for purposes of identification its quicker to say what they are for recognition . The fact i dont look at people based on there race doesnt make there race no longer exist i just dont value it as a distinction in any other means .
I would only give the opinion of be careful pushing the identity politics ( one because it comes from a group of people who in my opinion again are using this as there own tool for political sway not from a genuine caring for your life. When you become militant in defense of something you push all those who would accept you for you into opposition of you . WHen you make it us and them dont be surprised when it becomes us vs them.
I know you probably think i am trying to hate on you , and i am not . You are no different to me or any other person . The problem happens as you want to point out your different , you want to make laws that define you different . WE ARE THE SAME, our neurotic quirks ,our looks, our self identification maybe different , but in that it makes us the same ( i am different to another cis gender male and i make the assumption your not like every other trans gender person your all individuals) .
Our laws are made to service society at large and is ment to be applied EQUALLY . We are all individuals , we are all people and the moment you start to make new categories to define us as different you force segregation. You force it to be US AND THEM not as it should be which is just US.
If i knew the answer on how to have the law applied equally ( and fairly as it is intended i wouldnt have left the police force)Sadly its the human element that makes it become murky. Dont know what i mean well many people like you are not aware of every law ,bi law, city ordnance or constitutional right ( or at least how its applicable ) PS that includes the police officers enforcing them . You swear to uphold the law all laws but your bound to obey you superiors ( which at times puts you in actual direct conflict with laws you have sworn to uphold.
That is another reason that a push for extra laws wont have the desired effect as its how there applied that will make a difference to you . I just worry that well the biggest political supporters of you are anti capitalism, anti the system as it stands. Pretty deep conversation that ties politics ,history ,psychology and biology .
Your probably thinking whats this crazy white guy talking about , the rise of Marxism , the Idea of not equal opportunity but equal outcome . On paper it seems fantastic , hell to argue against the idea of it well would seem almost inhuman as a system that actually worked like that would be fair for everyone. The problem is it dont work ( history has shown us this repeatedly ) I fear in a system like that its always corrupted by well us ( natural instinct of humans and most animals is self preservation , the civilized( if you could call it that ) extension of this is self interest. We all operate from a point of self interest ( well not all there are those truly selfless people but they occur at numbers similar to sociopaths so tiny tiny amounts).
When your doing your homework on your already existing rights do a quick scan of how minorities have done in socialist and communist countries.
But hey i am pushing 50 and i am just bitter old man , what do i know? How could i possible understand the youth of today ( its not like i was ever young lol).Maybe i cant, but i have watched human nature , people hate what they fear ( its not the only reason people hate) in a current environment where trans women are given a platform to accuse cis people of bigotry because they wont date women who happen to have or had a penis( strange when i ask a woman to date me and she says no as she is not attracted to me i dont get to call her names for not being sexually interested in me) you breed fear and hatred. Cold comfort will be the political victory of legal protections that may or may not be applied correctly to you and in most cases after the crime has occurred. Will that help more than joining with people showing that there is nothing to fear or hate your just another person like us dealing with the day to day the best way you can ?
She’s literally trying to not listen to Damon whilst he’s speaking. She’s shaking her head, refusing to look at him, and constantly showing frustration.
I hate people who think "Phew!" or "Wow, you said that?" is an argument.
I really like your channel, your sensible, calm, and collected. A lot of other people who make content act loud and obnoxious and swear a lot. You make it feel educational and keep it respectable regardless of your opinion.
Isaiah Wims I agree entirely and we need more people like this. There's also the Roaming Milennial channel which uses a similar approach and is good too.
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Well yes, RM has a more clear biased position, I agree. But I guess some of her videos are okay. Btw, does "MRA" mean?
***** Yeah, I agree with you. Thanks for the explanation. You seem like a sensible person, I really like that.
But what about Ricky Ricardo, who often said, loudly, 'Lucy you gotta lot a splaining to do' ?
Can someone explain to me, the exact issue with meritocracy? What is wrong with giving a job/reward etc to the person who is the best suited/did the best job? In fact i would argue that giving someone something or taking something away from anyone based on their skin color is in fact racist.
I guess and supposedly because when some people talk about meritocracy they give an arrogant vibe off it and make it out to be easy to be a successful person. Or because meritocracy doesn't exist. But then again, these are not reasons that address the concept of meritocracy itself or why we shouldn't strive for it, so I'm equally dumbfounded.
Meritocracy is great and should absolutely be strived for, but the fight occurs around what merits are to be considered. In this example, Brown seemed like she wanted to prioritize a merit of perspective, particularly around the Harmony character; Damon, raw or overall talent with no particular emphasis (it seems). Historically speaking, the straight white male perspective would likely treat Harmony like a throwaway. Brown wants to make sure their director(s) would treat her with respect and supposes a woman and racial minority would be better at it.So the questions now become: 1) Is perspective a valid merit? 2) If so, how important is it (in relation to other skills like editing, cinematography, scripting, etc.)? 3) How well have all the directors demonstrated an ability to adopt different perspectives?It's possible the most woke person is a straight white dude. But in Brown's personal experience, that probably hasn't been the case.
Ryan Leon k lemme "splain" some shit to you. Woke isnt a thing. And while you claim to strive for meritocracy, you're just rewording safe spaces and BLM nonsense. Perspective merit? This is not a thing. We live in a wonderful and free world. No it is NOT perfect, nor will it ever be. We as humans are terribly flawed creatures. However in the vast majority of the 1st world people of all races and sexual preferences enjoy a host of rights and freedoms that have never before been known. All this woke shit, all this looking for racial prejudice bullshit needs to stop.
Drew Russell If you have a problem with my argument, call it out; don't bring extra "safe space, BLM stuff" into it when I didn't. Besides, if I rework their arguments to make them valid, what does it matter?
We should always strive to do better, and never leave well enough alone. One way to do that is be more inclusive.
Diverse perspectives have merit because without it you get a repetitive, stale, monotonous product/industry; stifiling innovation.
In filmmaking, a director who can place themselves in the shoes of all their characters would write and shoot them with more depth and enhance the storytelling. It's the difference between another Transformers and something visionary like Inception.
How much value you place on perspective that in relation to other skills is very open question, but it's absolute value is not 0.
Ryan Leon artistic perspective =/= perspective merit. She wasn't saying to pick colored people because of their artistic perspective. She was mad because there was too little "color" involved for her liking. That is giving someone something based on the color of their skin not the quality of their content. That is racist.
14:30 That happened to me when my brother's friend's girlfriend told me in game chat that women talk more than men. And I told her I disagree with that statement cuz if women have a better vocabulary then men, surely they have more complex and specific words to use instead of more broad and less specific words. Therefore, they talk less. And I have personal experience speaking with my female acquaintances and they don't talk a lot. So, logically I used my personal experience to give her my opinion. She shut me down and told me that what I just said was mansplaining. Bare in mind that this wasn't a who is right type of conversation, this was a debate. But she saw it differently I guess. I later texted her and told her how I got my conclusion and she responded with a message saying she gets that and all she wants is her opinion to be respected, as if I had disrespected her. I said sorry if I disrespected her and she accepted.
Women who shut males down by calling them mansplainers ironically discredit themselves by shutting down people who they accuse of shutting them down.
Jeez, all this stuff grinds my gears....
Matt was prophetic in this clip. And yet, the film industry has tanked in quality from not listening to him
I think I just gained respect for matt Damon
If a reality show was found out to be cheating the contestants to make sure a certain person win, there would be a shit show. But here's Effie Brown suggesting that they ignore the very point of competing and just give the win to the minority and woman duo because they're a minority/woman duo.
In her mind, it's not *talent* that determines if a movie is made well... rather it's the skin color and genitals that you're born with. Regardless on any misconstrued meaning people took from Matt Daemon, you can just *witness* this kind of racist and sexist ideology oozing from supposedly progressive people like Brown.
Yes, people really did call Matt Damon a racist for rejecting racism.
Matt Damon is the man. Call him Matt Mungus.
Great stuff, thanks for the content. As a gay, white, able-bodied man, I wonder if I am privileged or only three-quarters privileged. Do we round up? The modern world has gone mad. Oops, did I just Sanesplain?
bgo sotp sanesplaining 😡😡🤬😡 its ipanorpiate and not funy
I think the fact that you are gay takes precedence in America.
I love how you don't even really take a stance in your videos. You just look at the situation objectively and expand all the information, and let people take away what they will. It's awesome.
I can't stand the term mansplaining, but I hate even more how often it's misused. People claim that any man assuming a woman doesn't know anything, no matter how complex or esoteric, is mansplaining. I saw an exchange recently where a woman said she hates the Java programming language, and a man responded that if she used it more she'd learn to love it. She said she's a computer science professor and shamed him for mansplaining.
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Now, if he KNEW she is a professor then said that, I'd understand the complaint. But...how was he supposed to know?
***** Java is usually a language students start out with or use early on in a college Computer Science degree, so he probably assumed she was one of those rather than that she's the one teaching it.
I have heard the "you will love it once you've worked with it" argument from more than a dozen IT-guys regardless of age or gender. That was not any kind of splaining, it was just two people both thinking that what they liked best has to be the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Also, to keep on the theme of the anecdote, being a computer science professor doesn't mean that she is an expert on every language. My professors would often complain about students asking them very detailed questions about minor differences in half a dozen languages and they would regularly point out that they don't know all this stuff.
the fact he assumed she was a student rather than a teacher could be a sexist assumption along the lines of "a woman is more likely to be a student in a field like IT than a teacher".
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>literally everyone knows about java script
>I don't know much about java script
Nice contradiction. Knowing that it exist and knowing some very basic stuff about it doesn't mean that you can give a fair assessment of the program. It's like judging food by the look of it without actually tasting it.
With your argument you actually prove the man in the initial story right since there seem to be many people like you around who dismiss java script from the get go.
WOW - It shouldn't matter. That was just his opinion. What - you have to show credentials before you can voice your opinion? She could have argued her point instead of insulting him. The fact that she was qualified to make her case, actually makes her look like an ego-maniacal moron because she chose the low road instead.
you have the same amount of subscribers as people in Lichtenstein
There are nothing but vampires in Lichtenstein.
SAM BRICKELL
thats explains why he biggest export is teeth
This is one of the most objective, detailed, and well-constructed videos against the actions of social justice advocates that I've ever seen, and I've seen hundreds of them. I think there's a reason why your video has more than fifty times as many likes as it does dislikes, despite the controversial subject matter. One would have to be incredibly closed-minded to disagree with this video, at least to the extent that would warrant a dislike. I was already liking this channel, but you, my friend, have earned a subscriber.
Woman interrupts and insults a man? Nobody panics.
But if one man were to interrupt her back? Well then everyone loses their minds!
'...and if someone tried to explain about relationships....ahh I don't know what we'd call that.'
I lost it. Had to pause the video and go back because I was laughing so hard I couldn't hear you go on. Bravo, sir...Bravo.
One more point: Any potential for a deeper understanding of a character in a script that's due to a similarity of background could be considered as part of the package of what constitutes merit--along with technical and artistic ability. But it should be only part of that package. It shouldn't eclipse artistic talent and technical skill.
Exactly, arguing for perspective like Effie did wasn't wrong: someone with great talent could still misunderstand an issue because they lack personal experience. I would guess, however, that considering her vehemence she was probably valuing the casting diversity higher than any other merit. That's not an opinion I agree with, but as we don't know how she stacked merits against each other, that's just my perception.
He shut her down because his argument was more valid than hers and he didn't want to give a job to people simply based on race or gender.
Oh Cenk, am I right right right right right?
+tkellaway OF COOOURSE!
Right?
Cenk Ogre
+tkellaway WE ARE THE TERRORISTS! THE TERRORISTS ARE US!!!!!
shit was so cenk
I really enjoy this channel. I’m not very conservative nor very liberal. This channel is very logical and uses real facts and arguments. Thank you.
As a black man , I whole heartedly agree with this counter argument.
10:03 dump-splaining. Not to be confused with shit-splaining, which is when someone tries to explain taco bell to someone who just pooped their pants.
This is SUCH a great video. I wish more people would see this.
I'm still wondering why people made such a big deal about it.
Because the Cult of Outrage is out of control.
Professional victim-hood. If these people cannot find something to be victims of at least on a bi-weekly basis they will just make shit up.
Sjws are dumb and the media ate it up.
I love this channel. Very few people are breaking down the truth of what was said in different arguments and pointing out all the logical fallacies used. The importance of *clarity* in our society today cannot be overstated...
0:29 Oh how dare he be a majority of the population! Even though I’m a cis White male myself, but I have double standards!
So basically a bunch of racist's saying Matt is the one being racist. In psychology this is called Projection.
LUCY, you got some splaining to do!!
WAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!
Sachi Perez He never said that
My opinion of Matt Damon just doubled.
I am on Damon's side for one reason and one reason only: if you are a great artist, you will be able to do the research on perspectives you don't have in order to make accurate art. That's why the greatest writers are the greatest, they create believable characters because they know what they're doing, not necessarily because they share the perspectives of those characters.
Alan Moore writing of Rorschach is a great example of that.
Stumbled upon this channel today for some reason, this has been the highlight of my evening ! I really appreciate how you break down these concepts people use as a way to cry about everything and act like they have the moral high ground all the time when really, they rarely do. You're approaching the whole idea with a lot of perspective and some funny thoughts here and there with a calm manner. Definitely earned my sub.
Oh you clever shit. "Exsplaining" for couples lecturing a broken pair. LOL That gave me a good laugh.
The thing I find humorous about the 'splaining thing is that it comes from a racially insensitive joke based on how Ricky Ricardo, a hispanic, could not properly say the word explaining. This of course leading to the somewhat famous line "Lucy, you got some 'splaining to do." Using a part of a racially insensitive joke to fight people being insensitive. Guess it's okay cause they're "taking it back" like the guy in Clerks 2.
Flagged for whitesplaining.
+Islet of Langerhans you SURE xe is white?
Another video that is still relevant today. You are amazing.
This video was made 4 years ago.. and the situation is even worse and also spread in Europe! ...
6:13
I think Brown was saying here: "true that, but-"
to be fair to the teenage experience, if anyone says that Prometheus was a good movie they should instantly be black listed and all communication severed.
haha my thoughts exactly.
yea but you could say the same thing about MIB3 lol.
Jesus. There's nothing more HILARIOUS that watching MILLIONAIRES discuss social issues.
Are they.. richsplaining..?
What is it about being a millionaire that would make their opinion on social issues moot?
16:45 "It doesn't seem to matter what's being said, as much as what kind of person said it."
Don't make the same mistakes that this whole video is arguing against.
Michael Taylor I'll tell you (since you asked). It's because when you live in an entirely different world than the other 99.999% of the population...when you live in an enclosed bubble of existence and have armed guards to keep other people away from you...when you have POWER over other people because of fame and celebrity...to expect your "opinion" to have anything in common with the people you have power over is INSANE!
People in the Congo have different needs, concerns, and opinions than people living in Paris...DON'T THEY???
People living among this much wealth and privilege have NO BUSINESS speaking on issues that effect US! The other 99.999% who have to deal with the consequences in a MUCH much much much different way.
When fuckin BONO preaches about how we should all contribute to help starving people in Africa, while going home to one of his MANY multi million dollar mansions (worth nearly as much as a single country in Africa), it's not hard to tell Bono to go fuck himself. His "opinion" doesn't matter to me because he Monday Morning Quarterbacking. He's talking out of his ASS about things that have NOTHING to do with him. He's in fact USING those thing to GLORIFY himself without having to contribute any actual sacrifice. Virtue signaling.
FUCK THE RICH! They mean absolutely ZERO to ANYONE!
+John Stewart: yourlogicalfallacyis.com/genetic and yourlogicalfallacyis.com/composition-division
I'm glad you're watching Counter Arguments videos, keep it up.
Most millionaires started as "normal" people as well
People nowadays dont think CRITICALLY first before speaking/tweeting/arguing. So sad, that they just want the spotlight to them, or be relevant without assessing the real issue about something. Loved this video. Toxic wokist at its best.
What kind of world do we live in where you can get called racist for choosing a cast based on merit, instead of race?
this video catches on whats wrong with society today, i feel like this is the problem the root problem of practically everything wrong.
i love this video if more people saw it and understood it the world would be a better place
The Young Turks. Why didn't you give me a trigger warning? TRIGGERED
The Young Turds
The Dung Jerks
Matt Damon and Ben Afleck: always positive about defending minorities
Twitter: hmmm no
The board at 18:12 does an awesome job capturing the essence of what's really worth in arguing. I really like that.
The ragtime piano really helps keep it light
Cultural insight of any sort and general life experience are going to help a filmmaker make a script more natural and colloquial. Increasingly, however, two people having different ethnicities is no guarantee that they have huge cultural differences. Talent vs. perspective is a real question and it's not a matter of throwing one of them out altogether.
Love your work. I have an issue with this video, though:
1. @3:45 It's clear she wasn't finished and Matt Damon interrupted her. You left this part out when you showed the footage the second time, but only showed the point when she tried to talk again after being initially interrupted. So the argument that she's trying to talk over him doesn't hold up.
There's no need for all the disrespect towards Damon, though - it's his right to have his own priorities when making a decision.
I personally feel like with the case of trying to get representation in something like a movie casting of, let’s say queer issues, I’d probably expect a gay man to have more experience and perspective on the topic than a straight man, but I also would acknowledge that a strong ally may be just as good if not better than a potential queer candidate for the position. Diversity for the purpose of perspective is in my opinion a good thing, but you really need to not let assumptions about people’s experience on something just because they personally have not gone through the struggles because they very well could have been right beside someone who has.
Also, in this particular case, the part that Brown was specifically concerned about was a black, female prostitute. Of the candidates she was proposing, one was a woman but not a black prostitute and the other was a POC but not a black female prostitute. I'm not sure that that pair would have significantly more perspective on that particular part anyway. Some, probably, but it's not like they actually had a black, female prostitute available to direct.
Well, in the case of acting, films and such, I believe anyone can play any role so long as they 1) match the physical description required (having a female walking around with both legs when the role requires a male leg amputee wouldn't make sense) and 2) are a good actor. For making a character that portrays an honest depiction and good representation of a person, I look to the writers. For example, I'm sure Jared Leto is a very good actor, however his character "Joker" was written awfully. Same for representation of minorities or marginalized groups. If the writers are not diverse or don't do sufficient research and consultation on the characters they are writing, they are not doing justice, just causing harm.
There’s a bunch of signs in my school talking about racism in the media, healthcare etc and I decided to read them and one of them mentioned something like “we don’t have enough black script writers or directors”
Talent vs. Perspective is an interesting discussion tough
"You should do diversity on the actors" -Cenk
Can u be our president
5:08
This is racism now. Welcome to post-modern earth.
This channel seems highly objective. It isn’t getting enough views for all the dope explanations to specific internet/human nuances and stupid tunnel visioned thoughts and conclusions we jump to because of moral highground-ness.
"Ablesplaining: 'ah, you're fine'"
That's fucking incredible 😄 🤣 😂
exsplaining lol that one got me laughing