P.s. thank you for your sweet comments about not minding Zeke *yelling* in the background. Usually I put in a lot of extra time/effort to edit that stuff out or re-record myself but I had HAD ENOUGH this day 😂❤️
Your cats are so cute and big. I just want to hug them. My cat is usually quiet but for some reason she wants to be vocal whenever I'm trying to record a video. She would also start being super extra by doing her "crazy cat" run. I have to now leave her in a room when I record because she had sabotaged many videos lol. One day, she even knocked down my tripod smh. I don't know why she can't be chilled like her brother (the dog).
I have a cat that is extremely talkative named Nico. He once spent the entire night just miaowing at the top of his lungs because the door he wanted to get through was shut to him because the person inside the room didn't want a cat playing on top of them while trying to sleep.
Let's be honest, we know it is Zeke's world and we should be grateful he gives us an appearance once in awhile. Clearly by my pic I'm a cat mom and we love to see other funny antics your cats and Savannah's Poptart surprise us with. I am glad you don't edit them out! 🐾🐈🐈⬛❤
I made a throwaway so I could clear up a couple of things. The story with Mary Kay Mom was mine. Yes, that should have been chapsticks, not chopsticks-- thanks for nothing, autocorrect. And yes, Brock was a friend and classmate who passed away very unexpectedly. I would technically have time for both. But I had zero interest in sobbing over my friend's casket and then jumping in the car for some garbage "facial."
Thank you for sending in your story!! Knowing that Brock was a friend and classmate who passed makes your story even more horrifying 💔 You are completely justified in not wanting to attend a Mary Kay party that day and I’m disgusted that it was even suggested to you.
I've lost a few friends over the years. Honestly, I'm impressed by your restraint. If God himself asked if I wanted to go to a facial on any day of the funeral, I'd be throwing serious hands.
I’m so sorry to hear that! MLM Huns truly become blinded by the opportunity. I was also under the dang spell. However, I did not have children or ever recruit anyone and I made literally one sale. When the love bombing stopped when I had to quit after 3 months bc I moved to another country…I saw all their true colors and was absolutely gutted. When another MLM tried to recruit me I saw the “group” go from love bombing to discarding within 2 hours when I refused to sign up. I was literally sitting on a couch with a lady who I laughed & joked with the whole party. When I said “No, this isn’t for me”, she literally frowned & turned her WHOLE BODY away from me. Everyone at the party proceeded to ignore me & focus on the 2 who signed up. That’s the moment that I became anti-MLM. Also, I consistently wondered if one of those “new sign-ups” was a plant…he was way too happy to sign up & lose his money.
I’m finding that I enjoy your “horror stories” videos even more than the top fails! Probably because the writers of these stories have clear, cohesive points to make, while the huns in top fails videos drone on and ramble aimlessly. 😆 Plus, more Hannah on screen > more huns on screen.
I once was getting ready for a poker party, cleaning my house. Suddenly the doorbell rings. It was a guy wanting to talk to me about Kirby vacuums. Growing up my grandma had a Kirby and it still works to this day (but you can't get bags for it anymore) so I told him I really couldn't afford it but thank you. This dude would not take no for an answer. He pushed his way in and kept talking. I told my husband I had stuff to do and enjoy. This man vacuumed my entire house and basically marked the vacuum price down to only 600$ lol I eventually had to kick him out because guests were arriving. He was so mad that he wasted all that time and still didn't get a sale. I told him from the beginning It was a no sale so I didn't feel bad for him. He did manage to get up the bottle of glitter we had spilled 4 years prior and had been vacuuming up ever since lol
OH MY GOOODDD, THAT’S SO FUNNY!!! Him showing up before a party was the most GLORIOUS coincidence I've ever seen, him also vacuuming up the glitter was dope as hell
As an ex Mormon- part of why it is really easy to recruit Mormons and keep them from doing their own research is because often they are taught to trust and believe people at their word. This isn’t to say every Mormon is naive, just that if your raised Mormon your taught to believe in people and especially to trust others of the same faith
The story about the ex-Paparazzi hon broke my heart, and I don’t think enough people talk about the severe trauma that can result from leaving an MLM and losing your entire friend group. If you already have an unhappy home/family life, it can be too devastating for some people to handle, forcing them to stay or join another MLM. By the way, I totally agree that you are the kindest and most articulate anti-MLM creator! You stay on topic and are super gentle with the individuals, and I appreciate and respect that tremendously!
I know it is probably distracting and annoying but I love when one of the cats come in meowing and asking for attention. It is so cute so see you petting them as you talk.
My cat was so intrigued by this video because of your cats meows. I wish you could've seen him trying to figure out why there was a cat stuck in my laptop!
Only recently discovered this channel, so sorry for the lateness, but my little cowboy corgi has been going crazy trying to find the cat he needs to herd!! All of my cats stay out of his reach, so he was excited at the idea that he could actually get near one! 🤣
I had a play partner get into pure romance and she never tried to recruit me but she would invite me to parties and I refused every time (being well versed in mlms already). Well she gifted me a "tingle lube" and one day I decided to test a TINY amount. I... was.... on... fire. It hurt so bad. I immediately washed it off but I couldn't let anything touch there for a few days after. Don't put mlm stuff on your body, especially not your bits.
I really appreciate the respect for the LDS community and everything, most people do not approach it this way. Thank you! This is exactly why I love your channel.
My absolute favorite part of this video was your beautiful kitty incessantly trying to get your attention! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I have 11, yes 11, inside kitties (and I care for roughly 15-ish outside strays that now live on my property) and as soon as I heard your cat it struck a chord because that’s exactly how so many of my cats greet me. It warmed my heart!
You seem like a very articulate intelligent young woman. Thank you for addressing this topic in measured, civilized manner. So many others are vulgar and aggressive. I am a 73 year old lady and I cannot get through all the F*** Bombs and angry rhetoric on other anti-mlm channels. I find this topic interesting and I appreciate your thoughtful manner of covering it. Thank you again. 💖💖
@@candie3848 just because you like f bombs doesnt mean everyone has to. She didn't mention any names, so she didn't bring anyone down. Sorry you were triggered lol
The pure romance party sounds exactly like my experience 🥴🙄 the dild@ was no shit like 4 feet long. I'm far too vanilla to even pretend to know what to do with it. A nurse I worked with was let go from her job and tried to sell it, she awkwardly went live every evening trying to sell here products like paparazzi consultants.
That adding people’s friends thing is a real thing! When I did Mary Kay back in like 2014 my upline made us go through our friends list and message people and then go through our friends’ friends list and message or add THEIR friends. We were told to “look for people who looked like they could be customers or team members”.
I'm binging your Horror Stories playlist. You mentioned that you have family in Utah. I'm sure there is at least one person there who is thinking, How Dare You show your shoulders on YT!!! Idiots. You are beautiful, classy, and down to earth. I love the kitty cameos. Thank you for these great informative videos!
Just discovered from that link of top 50 that Vivint Solar is an MLM. Kind of shocked. Had absolutely no idea, and guess who our solar company is through? Yikes.
"It was almost like they were trying to program my mind to forget the experience" this is brilliant. Exactly! The upline saw she was upset so tried to force out a false, enthusiastic 'it was awesome!' from here because that really does work. It really can make you remember things differently, or change your mind, because you need to keep up the feeling of being consistent. Feeling that our views and behaviors are consistent is incredibly important for psychological wellbeing, so we do stuff like this subconsciously; we re-write memories or change our opinions, just to feel consistent. Saying you loved the conference, while you didn't, is an inconsistency, it's gonna create an unpleasant cognitive dissonance. Our minds try to not let that happen so it really could make her view the conference differently with time - "maybe it wasn't so bad after all" - so the dissonance is not there.
Oh! Stampin Up is an MLM! That makes so much sense. I work at a convention center, so I've seen Beach Body come through and throw their massive love-bombing. sales-shaming extravaganza, but I was confused when one smaller hall was booked for a bunch of little old ladies so excited to scrapbook together. It makes sense that those were stampin up reps who were excited about trying a new product, and not some other mass of old women. lmao
I have to say I absolutely love your channel. I follow several anti-mlm creators but you are quickly becoming my favorite. I love how respectful you are and how you purposely focus on the dangers of MLMs and not the people who have been duped into it. Also, great points!!!! Please keep doing what you’re doing. It is much needed!!
Your one of my new favourites! Your delivery is always so engaging and done in a way I understand all the details! I was making dinner with your video playing and heard your cat and thought it was mine! I yelled over to her saying “what do you want!?” She’s always chatty when I’m in the kitchen 😂
I remember as a child having a little magnet rolling thing that my parents told me to roll on parts of my body that were in pain😳 I now realize that was just one of their MLM products that they got manipulated into believing works…. I could never remember the name of it…. Nikken… there it is!
My dad bought a Kirby vacuum the day my Mom got home from the hospital after giving birth to my baby brother. That thing was *HEAVY* and a pain to clean with.
MLMs coming between friendships is very real for my life. I’ve really separated myself from a lot of the MLMers in my social world because I’ve had several bad experiences.
There are some great lawsuits popping up about whether or not MLM recruits even fit the IRS guidelines for independent contractors (they don't). honestly idk why their labor violations haven't been cracked down on sooner, but hopefully they will be eventually!
I kept thinking it was my cat too!! She's sound asleep on her tower right now, so I was getting creeped out, then I remembered she has cats too! Hahaha
Gosh i felt the same way at the scentsy events i went to, people would scream and cheer at everything, they'd like faint if the owner looked at them, and i was like am i the only person here that can see how ludicrous this is? Yet i still went to other events 😂.
Oh lord, the second story is giving me major flashbacks to when we got new neighbors. They were kids my age. They just acted odd and the boy was really creepy. My friends and I weren't really comfortable playing with them but were never rude. Their mom got very mad about this. On multible occasions, I remember her yelling at us until we cried and let her stange children play with us.
I didn't know that Kirby was an MLM! We did buy one from a door-to-door salesman about 25 years ago that had a shampoo attachment, but sadly, our house was broken into about a year later and it was stolen along with our stereo and some other things. It was covered under the homeowners insurance but I replaced it with a cheap garbage vacuum rather than try to find a new Kirby.
I had that whole Primerica BS pulled on me as well. It was literally too long ago to recall if I ever gave info for anyone I knew. It is SO clever how they handled it! I thought they just gave the middle name so the cousin would know to hang up or ignore and said 'that's so smart!' Finding out the reps would be getting trolled by someone having fun with it was one of the best twists ever. 😂 👏 Amazing!
I love hearing Zeke in your videos! He has the sweetest little voice! I have 3 kitties myself, and they love to show up when I’m doing therapy with my clients online! 😳 I wanted to mention an old MLM that is no longer in business, but I grew up with my mom and aunts hosting parties. It was called Home Interiors. Lol!
I commented this on another recent video of yours, but I had a run in with that dōterra massage party. I catered to one, and I can answer your question: it was straight essential oils being put directly on these ladies’ skin. No dilution whatsoever. And on top of that, it was being diffused as well. I remember walking into this lady’s house and seeing someone half naked on a massage table and thinking “wtf is going on” then when I started to set up…I saw the millions of dōterra branded products on her kitchen counter. It smelled so strongly of essential oils in there that the next house I delivered to for a grad party said they could smell the lavender on me. I didn’t even TOUCH any of the oils
I would be so nervous to send my horror story… I was in for 1 year and had 2 legs. Slowly my thought of it has gone from pride to guilt. Crazy how I really was convinced I was an independent business owner. Even made it my occupation on Facebook 🤦🏽♀️ #itsaCULT
😂 I'm currently in my Home Office, working on layouts in a PPT presentation, listening to your the MLM horror stories. At one point my cat Sam took the queue from Zeke it seems. He came down from his little sleeping cave, yelling at me 😅, not sure about what 🙈 After a while I picked him up and put him in his basket on my desk. He is now laying in there, purring oh so loudly, watching me work. I love seeing your two boys in the videos, but I can also absolutely understand the frustration of having no clue "what they (or Zeke mainly) are on about". Keep up the great fight! Love your videos ❤
I'm pretty sure I bought paparazzi jewelry from two little girls who came to my house a number of years ago. It never crossed my mind that they might have been selling for their mom/parent but now I see that that is probably what happened. I bought two low quality beaded bracelets for $5 each.
One of my mom’s friends is part of the magnet MLM. This woman has been in several MLMs over the years and still has not figured out that it does not work. I’m just glad she has never been able to con my mom into joining and my mom is great at shutting down a pitch to join downlines.
Something you mentioned in another video that got me thinking. One of the writers mentioned how the hun had tried to convince her to buy her product to gift to impoverished women thus supporting their low income communities right. Something along those lines I can't remember the exact wording she used. But after some thought and further listening to the predatory practices I realized something. When I had my first child I ended up quickly leaving his father and found us both inside of a women's shelter for three months. We used to get donations for us and our kids pretty often but one that I recall seeing regularly in these places, ie the women's and family shelters, the job search locations, the donation places where women could get work appropriate attire and accessories, etc.... were makeup samples through Mary Kay and Avon and a few others that always had cards with them or catalogs and such that offered "jobs" and products advertised to "looking your best" for interviews and the like. While many of these places are privately funded through churches and the like there were also many of them that were state funded and encouraged women in the vulnerable positions of not only having children but escaping domestic violence and/or homelessness to look into these companies as viable job search opportunities. It makes you think and wonder how deeply many of these run when you're finding them inside of state funded programs meant to actually help these folks out of poverty. It's kind of crazy.
When my son told me that Papazzari was an MLM I simply didn't believe it. The person I purchase from on FB has never tried to recruit me and has only sold jewelry., which I actually love. It makes me wonder if it is possible to be a part of an MLM and NOT recruit, but the cult aspects of the MLM mean that the majority of people buy in.
The stories from the LDS member and the Paparazzi person are great segues into understanding the psychological tactics used by MLMs and high-control religious groups to recruit and retain members. The BITE model is a great checklist of said tactics and can help you determine whether a group you are in is high-control (i.e., a cult) and to what extent. There are many reasons MLMs are rampant in LDS communities, many of which stem from the social control tactics used by the LDS Church on its members. And because the members are used to those tactics, it makes them particularly vulnerable to those same tactics being used by MLMs. Obviously the LDS Church isn't the only example of this; there have been numerous times where members of high-control religious groups are easy prey for MLMs. Keep yourself educated on high-control tactics and stay aware! You deserve so much better than to be manipulated by other humans pretending to speak for God.
I was watching this, and my dog and I noticed the meowing at the same time and looked at each other like "Was that the TV or outside?" It's raining hard right now (Seattle area), so I had to pause the video to see if it was an animal in my backyard that needed to get out of the rain. 🤣 I started watching your videos for the anti MLM, but stayed for the Poshmark. I started selling at the beginning on November, and I've already sold enough to make back the money I spent on the items from the thrift store, thanks to your tips! Thank you for ALL of your content!
My dog thought it was his cat sister. He wouldn't stop faffing at me until I picked him up (he's 10 lbs and tiny), and showed him Olivia was asleep 😆 He was quite confused.
Oh my goodness, I thought your cat was my son and was like "seriously I just put you to bed" he's teething his eighth tooth so it's been rough but I love watching your videos at night when he's asleep
I was one of those stay at home teen mothers who was just incredibly lonely 19 and pregnant with my second . I was in a mommy fb group and unfortunately there were a bunch of itworks huns in that group. I got sucked in for a couple months and then realized how much I was always on my phone and the other huns expected me to attend nightly or daily zoom meetings, I felt very uncomfortable messaging people for sales or to sign them up AND one of the many messed up things was at the time I joined 2018 about 60% of itworks weren't even available in Canada.. I'm so glad these videos are being made now
My husband loved kirby and we were excited but ours was shitty and broke instantly, we kept having to bring it in for repairs, before it was even paid off. Plus our kirby guys looked like they came straight from prison with super badly done face tattoos and what not. It was interesting 😂
I appreciate that you try to keep you channel clean. I know everyone has a right to say what they want, but I find it so much more enjoyable when I don’t have to worry if I don’t have my AirPods.
You are so sweet when you read these stories! Just a very pleasant demeanor. I love watching these! 💚 I have to agree with people who say you don't pass judgment on others for joining and not knowing or people who stay. Thank you for sharing all of these stories!
I have been so lucky that as many times I've been approached to join an MLM I've never done it. I didn't know what Primerica was but the "interview" was down right strange and the way they hounded me to "take the job" I knew it was NOT legit.
I always bright up when suddenly NIKKEN pops into to limelight! My mom sold when I was little. Never heard anything about an upline/downline, but remember her demonstrating the products for people. For what it's worth, I had the magnetic soles as well as NIKKEN mattress and pillow and I liked them and slept very well on them. BUT I'm now sure it had nothing to do with magnets, but they were all hard and a bit "bumpy", which really helped my yet to be diagnosed adhd-brain to relax and go to sleep. Something about numbing the hyper sensitivity for stimuli.
My mom did Princess House in the early 80s. Neat stuff if you like crystal or china. She didn't stay in long; she was a hygienist and she picked up more hours.
Stampin' up is MLM? Holy crap, I never knew that! Edited to add: now it makes more sense how much my aunt was going on and on about it day after day on FaceBook.
Is the rainbow vacuum a mlm? We signed up for stuff at the fair and won a rainbow humidifier. This guy came by to give it to us. He trapped us in the 2 hour sales pitch! My husband and I were too nice to kick him out. We declined the vacuum though. He did tell us in his pitch that we could sell them too!!! I didn’t think this was a mlm until you mentioned the other vacuum sales company!! The rainbow vacuum was insanely expensive as well
I believe it's a very very old mlm, my mom has an mlm horror story of a family friend trying to pitch her a Rainbow vacuum cleaner and not taking no for an answer until they had to a bit rudely ask her to leave. That was in the 90s
Omg it’s crazy I was at a fair and they had All these craft vendors when I saw this super cute locket necklace so me and my best friend bought one …. Now I’m know about mlms and realized it was origami owl . It’s crazy how many mlms there are.
Absolutely wild that the Paparazzi rep went to a conference and was horrified, I think that’s the first time I’ve heard a horror story where the convention brainwashing completely had the opposite effect.
I’ve avoided MLMs over the years because of luck, a good BS detector and lack of ambition. ☺️ Though I suppose a brush with Cutco was an exception, but not worthy of a story. My point: I’m a new subscriber and have listened to many of your excellent videos, and I have several thoughts: 1) you’re providing an amazing-virtually vital-service, being compassionately honest about the dangers and devastation MLMs can bring. 2) Our culture is so focused on get rich quick people easily fall for MLM promises; 3) Critical thinking and doing due diligence is rare, so needs for money, connection, and security can easily overwhelm concerns and red flags; 4) salary inequities between men and women leave women vulnerable to MLM predators; 5) women’s training to be “good girls” means we’re often hesitant to say “no, thanks” to sketchy situations; 6) The connection to religion and cults to MLMs is clear-both require you to swallow false narratives and ignore your own thoughts, feelings and intuition.
I love how your kitty is talking to you. 😀 Mine is really loud when she wants me to play with her or to let her in to the room l am in. You wouldn't be able to record with my little brat in the same house. Lol
I didnt know Kirby was an MLM until watching one of your videos.. my mother got one when I was a kid.. I had no idea but now it makes sense. I still remember the guy coming in to clean our carpets... also my mom still has the kirby. She will never get rid of that thing, since she spent SO much money on it.. they are decent vacuums I wont lie.. but that guy got my mom, and got my mom into trouble with my dad.. may have been the start to their divorce now I think of it... lol
Yes that is probably why my mom ended up buying it! Lol shes also a lot like me, a people pleaser.. looking back, I can see now how she wss roped into it. Afraid to say no.. damn. Still has the thing too, but havent used it in like..idk 20 years lol
I had an aunt force us me to sell her crap.... how she screwed me out of Avon to work for hers. Once I joined she told me I had to quit Avon bc they were competition. I was so pissed back then
Ah, doTERRA’s AromaTouch technique! It is very weird (I got “certified” in this). A carrier oil is used but the oils are not diluted properly. They just apply some carrier to the person’s back then use the recommendation amounts of the prescribed essential oils. For massage, the dilution rate is 1% (3 drops of EO per 2 teaspoons of carrier, but some EOs have different dilution rates). If I remember correctly, 5 different EOs were used. Some women reacted strangely after their massage. Two women were slumped in a corner, giggling to themselves. doTERRA reps called that “oil drunk” and acted like it was a good thing! No one there was actually a message therapist. We were told what to do and sent home with a booklet about this “technique”. Everyone got a certificate saying we passed the class. So sketchy!
Speaking of the Kirby I remember when my parents were alive someone coming over with a vacuum. My mom made sure he did a majority of the rug and then let him leave 😂😂😂
Massage oil should be a neutral oil like almond, coconut, something like that. Sometimes they are scented with essential oils but should be scented lightly.
Omfg! I didn't know Kangen water is also an mlm 😭 I had an acquittance always post about it and I saw it in a cafe also in the US. I got really curious about it and was thinking to try, but now... no thank you!
I second the flashbacks! I had one in this video when stampin up was mentioned. I didn’t even know that was an MLM until now but it all makes sense now!
Omg this brought back memories. I remember seejng this big chrome vacuum at my friend's house and she told me that her mom bought a vacuum from someone who just came to their door and that it was stupidly expensive... i thought it was so weird, I as a teen thought, how can you do that? Isn't it so shady and scammy? Mind you it's not in a western country, they were well off but spending so much moneyon a vacuum is unheard of. So i just looked up kirby vacuum and that looks like it! I had no idea it was an MLM! And I can't wrap my head around how they got customers in my country!
I’ve had people in the past tried to get me into there mlms, thank God I am such an introvert that I have problems speaking with people that I would always say no.
Omg. Second comment. I won a “host a party” and after we checked how many boxes had a “host a party” vs those that did not from those we had to choose from. 90% had “host a party”. Scandalous!!
P.s. thank you for your sweet comments about not minding Zeke *yelling* in the background. Usually I put in a lot of extra time/effort to edit that stuff out or re-record myself but I had HAD ENOUGH this day 😂❤️
Your cats are so cute and big. I just want to hug them. My cat is usually quiet but for some reason she wants to be vocal whenever I'm trying to record a video. She would also start being super extra by doing her "crazy cat" run. I have to now leave her in a room when I record because she had sabotaged many videos lol. One day, she even knocked down my tripod smh. I don't know why she can't be chilled like her brother (the dog).
Your cats bring their own touch to your videos. Even Savannah Marie included her cat PopTart because it was so chatty.
I love both your handsome kittens and it's always a joy to see them for one sec =)
I have a cat that is extremely talkative named Nico. He once spent the entire night just miaowing at the top of his lungs because the door he wanted to get through was shut to him because the person inside the room didn't want a cat playing on top of them while trying to sleep.
Let's be honest, we know it is Zeke's world and we should be grateful he gives us an appearance once in awhile. Clearly by my pic I'm a cat mom and we love to see other funny antics your cats and Savannah's Poptart surprise us with. I am glad you don't edit them out! 🐾🐈🐈⬛❤
I made a throwaway so I could clear up a couple of things. The story with Mary Kay Mom was mine. Yes, that should have been chapsticks, not chopsticks-- thanks for nothing, autocorrect.
And yes, Brock was a friend and classmate who passed away very unexpectedly. I would technically have time for both. But I had zero interest in sobbing over my friend's casket and then jumping in the car for some garbage "facial."
Thank you for sending in your story!! Knowing that Brock was a friend and classmate who passed makes your story even more horrifying 💔 You are completely justified in not wanting to attend a Mary Kay party that day and I’m disgusted that it was even suggested to you.
I've lost a few friends over the years. Honestly, I'm impressed by your restraint. If God himself asked if I wanted to go to a facial on any day of the funeral, I'd be throwing serious hands.
I am so Sorry for your loss and that you were put in that situation.
I’m so sorry to hear that! MLM Huns truly become blinded by the opportunity. I was also under the dang spell. However, I did not have children or ever recruit anyone and I made literally one sale. When the love bombing stopped when I had to quit after 3 months bc I moved to another country…I saw all their true colors and was absolutely gutted. When another MLM tried to recruit me I saw the “group” go from love bombing to discarding within 2 hours when I refused to sign up. I was literally sitting on a couch with a lady who I laughed & joked with the whole party. When I said “No, this isn’t for me”, she literally frowned & turned her WHOLE BODY away from me. Everyone at the party proceeded to ignore me & focus on the 2 who signed up. That’s the moment that I became anti-MLM. Also, I consistently wondered if one of those “new sign-ups” was a plant…he was way too happy to sign up & lose his money.
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I’m finding that I enjoy your “horror stories” videos even more than the top fails! Probably because the writers of these stories have clear, cohesive points to make, while the huns in top fails videos drone on and ramble aimlessly. 😆 Plus, more Hannah on screen > more huns on screen.
So true!!!
And they unapologetically drag the MLMs 😂
Same 👍😁
Agreed!!! It’s infuriating to listen to the Huns, even in this context.
Same.
I was a Kirby recruit for one day. The moment they said we had to knock on doors I left on the spot.
all i imagine for kirby recruits is a montage of doors being slammed in their faces
That's a whole mood.
I have nothing to do with MLMs and yet here I am a regular male professional binging on your content. No clue why but you deliver!
We love it!!
Cousin John is the level of chaotic that I can relate to. I hope he enjoyed himself.
Also WHAT IS WITH MLM COMPANY NAMES BEING PERSISTENTLY UNPRONOUNCEABLE
They want to confuse people as much as possible. By the way, Doterra always reminds me of datura, a poisonous flower. Makes sense. 😆
I once was getting ready for a poker party, cleaning my house. Suddenly the doorbell rings. It was a guy wanting to talk to me about Kirby vacuums. Growing up my grandma had a Kirby and it still works to this day (but you can't get bags for it anymore) so I told him I really couldn't afford it but thank you. This dude would not take no for an answer. He pushed his way in and kept talking. I told my husband I had stuff to do and enjoy. This man vacuumed my entire house and basically marked the vacuum price down to only 600$ lol I eventually had to kick him out because guests were arriving. He was so mad that he wasted all that time and still didn't get a sale. I told him from the beginning It was a no sale so I didn't feel bad for him. He did manage to get up the bottle of glitter we had spilled 4 years prior and had been vacuuming up ever since lol
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That is incredible timing to have your whole house vacuumed prior to the party lol.
OH MY GOOODDD, THAT’S SO FUNNY!!! Him showing up before a party was the most GLORIOUS coincidence I've ever seen, him also vacuuming up the glitter was dope as hell
😂😂😂 kirby reps are NOTORIOUSLY aggressive and people have had to call the cops to get them out of their houses
Yea you flat out said "no, can't (definitely not willing) to afford it!" So no, no sympathy at all!
As an ex Mormon- part of why it is really easy to recruit Mormons and keep them from doing their own research is because often they are taught to trust and believe people at their word. This isn’t to say every Mormon is naive, just that if your raised Mormon your taught to believe in people and especially to trust others of the same faith
Oh wow, that thought process is scary
I had this thought as well when listening. From everything I've heard and read about them and Johovas witnesses are the same that way.
The story about the ex-Paparazzi hon broke my heart, and I don’t think enough people talk about the severe trauma that can result from leaving an MLM and losing your entire friend group. If you already have an unhappy home/family life, it can be too devastating for some people to handle, forcing them to stay or join another MLM. By the way, I totally agree that you are the kindest and most articulate anti-MLM creator! You stay on topic and are super gentle with the individuals, and I appreciate and respect that tremendously!
I know it is probably distracting and annoying but I love when one of the cats come in meowing and asking for attention. It is so cute so see you petting them as you talk.
My cat was so intrigued by this video because of your cats meows. I wish you could've seen him trying to figure out why there was a cat stuck in my laptop!
Only recently discovered this channel, so sorry for the lateness, but my little cowboy corgi has been going crazy trying to find the cat he needs to herd!! All of my cats stay out of his reach, so he was excited at the idea that he could actually get near one! 🤣
You’re the only UA-camr ive seen that actually seems sincere when you say ‘welcome, I’m so happy you’re here’. It’s actually quite refreshing!
I had a play partner get into pure romance and she never tried to recruit me but she would invite me to parties and I refused every time (being well versed in mlms already). Well she gifted me a "tingle lube" and one day I decided to test a TINY amount. I... was.... on... fire. It hurt so bad. I immediately washed it off but I couldn't let anything touch there for a few days after.
Don't put mlm stuff on your body, especially not your bits.
I really appreciate the respect for the LDS community and everything, most people do not approach it this way. Thank you! This is exactly why I love your channel.
This ☝🏻♥️
My absolute favorite part of this video was your beautiful kitty incessantly trying to get your attention! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I have 11, yes 11, inside kitties (and I care for roughly 15-ish outside strays that now live on my property) and as soon as I heard your cat it struck a chord because that’s exactly how so many of my cats greet me. It warmed my heart!
You seem like a very articulate intelligent young woman. Thank you for addressing this topic in measured, civilized manner. So many others are vulgar and aggressive. I am a 73 year old lady and I cannot get through all the F*** Bombs and angry rhetoric on other anti-mlm channels.
I find this topic interesting and I appreciate your thoughtful manner of covering it. Thank you again. 💖💖
It is possible to compliment someone without bringing others down. You'd think a 73 year old would know this by now.
@@candie3848 OK
@@candie3848 just because you like f bombs doesnt mean everyone has to. She didn't mention any names, so she didn't bring anyone down. Sorry you were triggered lol
That time Stacey’s mom did not have it going on. Sorry. I had to.
The pure romance party sounds exactly like my experience 🥴🙄 the dild@ was no shit like 4 feet long. I'm far too vanilla to even pretend to know what to do with it. A nurse I worked with was let go from her job and tried to sell it, she awkwardly went live every evening trying to sell here products like paparazzi consultants.
Nooo that would be so humiliating for me!!
The fact that beachbody was an ad that played while I watched this had me laughing (the IRONY). Hope everyone has a wonderful Christmas/weekend!
I've had that a happen a few times while watching these! LulaRoe has been a common one to show up too lol
Your manner of reading is so charming and engaging, makes me want to finally write my own horror story 😅
That adding people’s friends thing is a real thing! When I did Mary Kay back in like 2014 my upline made us go through our friends list and message people and then go through our friends’ friends list and message or add THEIR friends. We were told to “look for people who looked like they could be customers or team members”.
Isn't it crazy that you can KNOW a company/brand and not know it's an MLM?
I'm binging your Horror Stories playlist. You mentioned that you have family in Utah. I'm sure there is at least one person there who is thinking, How Dare You show your shoulders on YT!!! Idiots. You are beautiful, classy, and down to earth. I love the kitty cameos. Thank you for these great informative videos!
Just discovered from that link of top 50 that Vivint Solar is an MLM. Kind of shocked. Had absolutely no idea, and guess who our solar company is through? Yikes.
"It was almost like they were trying to program my mind to forget the experience" this is brilliant. Exactly! The upline saw she was upset so tried to force out a false, enthusiastic 'it was awesome!' from here because that really does work. It really can make you remember things differently, or change your mind, because you need to keep up the feeling of being consistent. Feeling that our views and behaviors are consistent is incredibly important for psychological wellbeing, so we do stuff like this subconsciously; we re-write memories or change our opinions, just to feel consistent. Saying you loved the conference, while you didn't, is an inconsistency, it's gonna create an unpleasant cognitive dissonance. Our minds try to not let that happen so it really could make her view the conference differently with time - "maybe it wasn't so bad after all" - so the dissonance is not there.
Oh! Stampin Up is an MLM! That makes so much sense. I work at a convention center, so I've seen Beach Body come through and throw their massive love-bombing. sales-shaming extravaganza, but I was confused when one smaller hall was booked for a bunch of little old ladies so excited to scrapbook together. It makes sense that those were stampin up reps who were excited about trying a new product, and not some other mass of old women. lmao
We all need a cousin John whose evil ideas perfectly counteract hun bots. 😂
I have to say I absolutely love your channel. I follow several anti-mlm creators but you are quickly becoming my favorite. I love how respectful you are and how you purposely focus on the dangers of MLMs and not the people who have been duped into it. Also, great points!!!! Please keep doing what you’re doing. It is much needed!!
I was shocked to find out CAbi was an MLM too! I also resell and occasionally pick it up if it’s cheap enough 🤷🏻♀️🤣
I had no idea! I thought the items were for sale from a catalogue and I was surprised to see a CAbi storefront at an outlet mall once
Your one of my new favourites! Your delivery is always so engaging and done in a way I understand all the details!
I was making dinner with your video playing and heard your cat and thought it was mine! I yelled over to her saying “what do you want!?” She’s always chatty when I’m in the kitchen 😂
Thanks for your support Bekah! And yeah, Zeke made lots of verbal appearances in this video 🤣
Utah must have beneficial tax and employment rules for these mlms for that updated number to be so high!
I remember as a child having a little magnet rolling thing that my parents told me to roll on parts of my body that were in pain😳 I now realize that was just one of their MLM products that they got manipulated into believing works…. I could never remember the name of it…. Nikken… there it is!
My dad bought a Kirby vacuum the day my Mom got home from the hospital after giving birth to my baby brother. That thing was *HEAVY* and a pain to clean with.
MLMs coming between friendships is very real for my life. I’ve really separated myself from a lot of the MLMers in my social world because I’ve had several bad experiences.
There are some great lawsuits popping up about whether or not MLM recruits even fit the IRS guidelines for independent contractors (they don't). honestly idk why their labor violations haven't been cracked down on sooner, but hopefully they will be eventually!
Loved this video. Anytime your cat meowed I had to go see if it was one of mine trying to come back inside.
I kept thinking it was my cat too!! She's sound asleep on her tower right now, so I was getting creeped out, then I remembered she has cats too! Hahaha
Gosh i felt the same way at the scentsy events i went to, people would scream and cheer at everything, they'd like faint if the owner looked at them, and i was like am i the only person here that can see how ludicrous this is? Yet i still went to other events 😂.
Oh lord, the second story is giving me major flashbacks to when we got new neighbors. They were kids my age. They just acted odd and the boy was really creepy. My friends and I weren't really comfortable playing with them but were never rude. Their mom got very mad about this. On multible occasions, I remember her yelling at us until we cried and let her stange children play with us.
Ick I hope a parent/ guardian stood up for y'all! That can become legit dangerous (I'm a true crime buff so extra paranoid but still...sh*t happens)
I didn't know that Kirby was an MLM! We did buy one from a door-to-door salesman about 25 years ago that had a shampoo attachment, but sadly, our house was broken into about a year later and it was stolen along with our stereo and some other things. It was covered under the homeowners insurance but I replaced it with a cheap garbage vacuum rather than try to find a new Kirby.
I had that whole Primerica BS pulled on me as well. It was literally too long ago to recall if I ever gave info for anyone I knew. It is SO clever how they handled it! I thought they just gave the middle name so the cousin would know to hang up or ignore and said 'that's so smart!' Finding out the reps would be getting trolled by someone having fun with it was one of the best twists ever. 😂 👏 Amazing!
I love hearing Zeke in your videos! He has the sweetest little voice! I have 3 kitties myself, and they love to show up when I’m doing therapy with my clients online! 😳
I wanted to mention an old MLM that is no longer in business, but I grew up with my mom and aunts hosting parties. It was called Home Interiors. Lol!
I commented this on another recent video of yours, but I had a run in with that dōterra massage party. I catered to one, and I can answer your question: it was straight essential oils being put directly on these ladies’ skin. No dilution whatsoever. And on top of that, it was being diffused as well. I remember walking into this lady’s house and seeing someone half naked on a massage table and thinking “wtf is going on” then when I started to set up…I saw the millions of dōterra branded products on her kitchen counter. It smelled so strongly of essential oils in there that the next house I delivered to for a grad party said they could smell the lavender on me. I didn’t even TOUCH any of the oils
I was surprised to hear Stamp’in Up is considered a MLM. I’ve used their products for years, and never felt any pressure to purchase.
Was it advocare that you bought Hannah!?? The B12 that you talked about? I almost fell for their crap once.
My cat does the same when we're not paying attention to her. She won't even meow at me. She'll cry longingly at the window. 😂
I love the response "I'm sorry YOU WERE offended". 😂🎉
I would be so nervous to send my horror story… I was in for 1 year and had 2 legs. Slowly my thought of it has gone from pride to guilt. Crazy how I really was convinced I was an independent business owner. Even made it my occupation on Facebook 🤦🏽♀️ #itsaCULT
😂 I'm currently in my Home Office, working on layouts in a PPT presentation, listening to your the MLM horror stories.
At one point my cat Sam took the queue from Zeke it seems. He came down from his little sleeping cave, yelling at me 😅, not sure about what 🙈
After a while I picked him up and put him in his basket on my desk. He is now laying in there, purring oh so loudly, watching me work.
I love seeing your two boys in the videos, but I can also absolutely understand the frustration of having no clue "what they (or Zeke mainly) are on about".
Keep up the great fight! Love your videos ❤
I'm pretty sure I bought paparazzi jewelry from two little girls who came to my house a number of years ago. It never crossed my mind that they might have been selling for their mom/parent but now I see that that is probably what happened. I bought two low quality beaded bracelets for $5 each.
One of my mom’s friends is part of the magnet MLM. This woman has been in several MLMs over the years and still has not figured out that it does not work. I’m just glad she has never been able to con my mom into joining and my mom is great at shutting down a pitch to join downlines.
These horror stories are truly horrific 😢
I always think they can't get worse but then they do...
Something you mentioned in another video that got me thinking. One of the writers mentioned how the hun had tried to convince her to buy her product to gift to impoverished women thus supporting their low income communities right. Something along those lines I can't remember the exact wording she used. But after some thought and further listening to the predatory practices I realized something. When I had my first child I ended up quickly leaving his father and found us both inside of a women's shelter for three months. We used to get donations for us and our kids pretty often but one that I recall seeing regularly in these places, ie the women's and family shelters, the job search locations, the donation places where women could get work appropriate attire and accessories, etc.... were makeup samples through Mary Kay and Avon and a few others that always had cards with them or catalogs and such that offered "jobs" and products advertised to "looking your best" for interviews and the like. While many of these places are privately funded through churches and the like there were also many of them that were state funded and encouraged women in the vulnerable positions of not only having children but escaping domestic violence and/or homelessness to look into these companies as viable job search opportunities. It makes you think and wonder how deeply many of these run when you're finding them inside of state funded programs meant to actually help these folks out of poverty. It's kind of crazy.
Playing sims 4 and listening to Hannah. Get me in the xmas spirit guys! Hopefully your parents had a safe trip. You enjoy each others company! 🌸🌸
Omg love this lol I know you posted this 6 months ago but I’m literally playing sims 4 and binging her videos 😂
When my son told me that Papazzari was an MLM I simply didn't believe it. The person I purchase from on FB has never tried to recruit me and has only sold jewelry., which I actually love. It makes me wonder if it is possible to be a part of an MLM and NOT recruit, but the cult aspects of the MLM mean that the majority of people buy in.
The stories from the LDS member and the Paparazzi person are great segues into understanding the psychological tactics used by MLMs and high-control religious groups to recruit and retain members. The BITE model is a great checklist of said tactics and can help you determine whether a group you are in is high-control (i.e., a cult) and to what extent.
There are many reasons MLMs are rampant in LDS communities, many of which stem from the social control tactics used by the LDS Church on its members. And because the members are used to those tactics, it makes them particularly vulnerable to those same tactics being used by MLMs.
Obviously the LDS Church isn't the only example of this; there have been numerous times where members of high-control religious groups are easy prey for MLMs. Keep yourself educated on high-control tactics and stay aware! You deserve so much better than to be manipulated by other humans pretending to speak for God.
Yesterday I send you an e-mail and now I think I know another MLM too 😂 I have been a magnet for MLMs 😂 OMG Thank you for letting me know ❤️
I was watching this, and my dog and I noticed the meowing at the same time and looked at each other like "Was that the TV or outside?" It's raining hard right now (Seattle area), so I had to pause the video to see if it was an animal in my backyard that needed to get out of the rain. 🤣
I started watching your videos for the anti MLM, but stayed for the Poshmark. I started selling at the beginning on November, and I've already sold enough to make back the money I spent on the items from the thrift store, thanks to your tips!
Thank you for ALL of your content!
My dog thought it was his cat sister. He wouldn't stop faffing at me until I picked him up (he's 10 lbs and tiny), and showed him Olivia was asleep 😆 He was quite confused.
Im in the Seattle area and my dad was in nikken for a short while. I have been binging this Playlist and am glad nikken finally got mentioned 👍
The fact that UA-cam gave me an mlm ad before this video 💀 💀 💀
Oh my goodness, I thought your cat was my son and was like "seriously I just put you to bed" he's teething his eighth tooth so it's been rough but I love watching your videos at night when he's asleep
Kitty is sooo cute. Helping mommy woth spooky horror stories ☺️☺️
Thanks Hannah! Always love your content! Your kitty was putting in his two cents too!
Merry Christmas!
I was one of those stay at home teen mothers who was just incredibly lonely 19 and pregnant with my second . I was in a mommy fb group and unfortunately there were a bunch of itworks huns in that group. I got sucked in for a couple months and then realized how much I was always on my phone and the other huns expected me to attend nightly or daily zoom meetings, I felt very uncomfortable messaging people for sales or to sign them up AND one of the many messed up things was at the time I joined 2018 about 60% of itworks weren't even available in Canada.. I'm so glad these videos are being made now
My husband loved kirby and we were excited but ours was shitty and broke instantly, we kept having to bring it in for repairs, before it was even paid off. Plus our kirby guys looked like they came straight from prison with super badly done face tattoos and what not. It was interesting 😂
I appreciate that you try to keep you channel clean. I know everyone has a right to say what they want, but I find it so much more enjoyable when I don’t have to worry if I don’t have my AirPods.
You are so sweet when you read these stories! Just a very pleasant demeanor. I love watching these! 💚 I have to agree with people who say you don't pass judgment on others for joining and not knowing or people who stay. Thank you for sharing all of these stories!
Cooper's commentary at the end made my cat look around all crazy like, "Where is the cat?" 😂
i love hearing ur kitties in the background. theyre so vocal
Just FYI, it's common to use essential oils in massage, but it's often diluted in either lotion or in another neutral oil
I have been so lucky that as many times I've been approached to join an MLM I've never done it. I didn't know what Primerica was but the "interview" was down right strange and the way they hounded me to "take the job" I knew it was NOT legit.
I always bright up when suddenly NIKKEN pops into to limelight! My mom sold when I was little. Never heard anything about an upline/downline, but remember her demonstrating the products for people. For what it's worth, I had the magnetic soles as well as NIKKEN mattress and pillow and I liked them and slept very well on them. BUT I'm now sure it had nothing to do with magnets, but they were all hard and a bit "bumpy", which really helped my yet to be diagnosed adhd-brain to relax and go to sleep. Something about numbing the hyper sensitivity for stimuli.
Coercing a child to sign up to something without parental consent MUST be illegal...surely?
My mom did Princess House in the early 80s. Neat stuff if you like crystal or china. She didn't stay in long; she was a hygienist and she picked up more hours.
I was just thinking about my Mom hosting a Princess House party for someone. They had pretty stuff and I think she still has some.
Stampin' up is MLM? Holy crap, I never knew that! Edited to add: now it makes more sense how much my aunt was going on and on about it day after day on FaceBook.
Is the rainbow vacuum a mlm? We signed up for stuff at the fair and won a rainbow humidifier. This guy came by to give it to us. He trapped us in the 2 hour sales pitch! My husband and I were too nice to kick him out. We declined the vacuum though. He did tell us in his pitch that we could sell them too!!! I didn’t think this was a mlm until you mentioned the other vacuum sales company!! The rainbow vacuum was insanely expensive as well
I believe it's a very very old mlm, my mom has an mlm horror story of a family friend trying to pitch her a Rainbow vacuum cleaner and not taking no for an answer until they had to a bit rudely ask her to leave. That was in the 90s
Omg it’s crazy I was at a fair and they had
All these craft vendors when I saw this super cute locket necklace so me and my best friend bought one …. Now I’m know about mlms and realized it was origami owl . It’s crazy how many mlms there are.
That was the sweetest "shut up" ever 😄❤
Also why should people quit their current jobs for an mlm when its supposed to be such a low maintenance opportunity?
Absolutely wild that the Paparazzi rep went to a conference and was horrified, I think that’s the first time I’ve heard a horror story where the convention brainwashing completely had the opposite effect.
I’ve avoided MLMs over the years because of luck, a good BS detector and lack of ambition. ☺️ Though I suppose a brush with Cutco was an exception, but not worthy of a story. My point: I’m a new subscriber and have listened to many of your excellent videos, and I have several thoughts: 1) you’re providing an amazing-virtually vital-service, being compassionately honest about the dangers and devastation MLMs can bring. 2) Our culture is so focused on get rich quick people easily fall for MLM promises; 3) Critical thinking and doing due diligence is rare, so needs for money, connection, and security can easily overwhelm concerns and red flags; 4) salary inequities between men and women leave women vulnerable to MLM predators; 5) women’s training to be “good girls” means we’re often hesitant to say “no, thanks” to sketchy situations; 6) The connection to religion and cults to MLMs is clear-both require you to swallow false narratives and ignore your own thoughts, feelings and intuition.
Wow... i didn't even know there WERE 50 mlms.. let alone all in one state
I love how your kitty is talking to you. 😀
Mine is really loud when she wants me to play with her or to let her in to the room l am in. You wouldn't be able to record with my little brat in the same house. Lol
I didnt know Kirby was an MLM until watching one of your videos.. my mother got one when I was a kid.. I had no idea but now it makes sense. I still remember the guy coming in to clean our carpets... also my mom still has the kirby. She will never get rid of that thing, since she spent SO much money on it.. they are decent vacuums I wont lie.. but that guy got my mom, and got my mom into trouble with my dad.. may have been the start to their divorce now I think of it... lol
I do remember they come and clean a nice square in the carpet that ends up looking really odd unless you buy it to finish off the rest of the room!!!
Yes that is probably why my mom ended up buying it! Lol shes also a lot like me, a people pleaser.. looking back, I can see now how she wss roped into it. Afraid to say no.. damn. Still has the thing too, but havent used it in like..idk 20 years lol
On Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, Whitney is an ex Mormon who is married to the CEO of the MLM LifeVantage. He was fired due to being on the show.
Hearing the kitty cats chirping randomly throughout the video is so cute. At first I thought it was my own. Lol.
Same!! :D
Oh wow, I haven't seen anyone do partylite yet! Exciting lol
Can’t wait to hear about PARTYLITE!!
I had an aunt force us me to sell her crap.... how she screwed me out of Avon to work for hers. Once I joined she told me I had to quit Avon bc they were competition. I was so pissed back then
The kitties are half the reason I love your show 😂❤
Ah, doTERRA’s AromaTouch technique! It is very weird (I got “certified” in this). A carrier oil is used but the oils are not diluted properly. They just apply some carrier to the person’s back then use the recommendation amounts of the prescribed essential oils. For massage, the dilution rate is 1% (3 drops of EO per 2 teaspoons of carrier, but some EOs have different dilution rates). If I remember correctly, 5 different EOs were used. Some women reacted strangely after their massage. Two women were slumped in a corner, giggling to themselves. doTERRA reps called that “oil drunk” and acted like it was a good thing!
No one there was actually a message therapist. We were told what to do and sent home with a booklet about this “technique”. Everyone got a certificate saying we passed the class. So sketchy!
Utah is big with UA-camrs as well. Almost like a Mormon MLM. They all support each other’s channels, make the money and tithe it to the church.
Speaking of the Kirby I remember when my parents were alive someone coming over with a vacuum. My mom made sure he did a majority of the rug and then let him leave 😂😂😂
Massage oil should be a neutral oil like almond, coconut, something like that. Sometimes they are scented with essential oils but should be scented lightly.
Black Cumin oil works very well too. And you are absolutly right that it should be only lightly scented (if at all).
Omfg! I didn't know Kangen water is also an mlm 😭 I had an acquittance always post about it and I saw it in a cafe also in the US. I got really curious about it and was thinking to try, but now... no thank you!
Last massage I had (at a day spa) she asked about allergies first, used a carrier oil and added a few drops of an essential oil I chose.
I second the flashbacks! I had one in this video when stampin up was mentioned. I didn’t even know that was an MLM until now but it all makes sense now!
Omg this brought back memories. I remember seejng this big chrome vacuum at my friend's house and she told me that her mom bought a vacuum from someone who just came to their door and that it was stupidly expensive... i thought it was so weird, I as a teen thought, how can you do that? Isn't it so shady and scammy? Mind you it's not in a western country, they were well off but spending so much moneyon a vacuum is unheard of. So i just looked up kirby vacuum and that looks like it! I had no idea it was an MLM! And I can't wrap my head around how they got customers in my country!
I’ve had people in the past tried to get me into there mlms, thank God I am such an introvert that I have problems speaking with people that I would always say no.
Omg. Second comment. I won a “host a party” and after we checked how many boxes had a “host a party” vs those that did not from those we had to choose from. 90% had “host a party”. Scandalous!!