Great video Chris. In my youth (80's) I had the pleasure to visit a nice studio in Gothenburg Sweden. Built on sand and all the rest. Great place. The had a Lexicon Reverb. It cost about 50 000 $ us then, Yamaha DX7. WOW. Digital was the future. But it's strange it's gone from analogue, to digital, back to digital/analogue. What's next, Vintage digital-analogue-danalogue. Who knows. Good to be alive.
As a Juno 106 owner, I must say the TAL Uno-lx is very close. I ended up using a Uno-lx bass instead of the real Juno today, as I thought the sound was actually better! Juno was grittier, but I did not wantthe grit. I think one of the voice chips sounds a bit wonky!
I used the TAL soft synth for years but it always took a few plug ins to warm it up. Boosting the bottom end helps too. I have a Juno 106 and the beauty of it is that you just plug it in and go. It also has a bit of magic about it and it's nice to play with rather than moving knobs and sliders with a mouse. That said, for end results the soft synths are pretty great for convenience (and cost). I still prefer the hardware every time though!
I have a very similar template preset for my VA synths, but I should definitely try throwing on a console emulation before the tape saturation, sounds really nice. Thanks for the tutorial!
I definitely liked the analog in this instance a lot more. It had more presence and girth especially in the mids and bass end. The plugin even with the inserts still was missing something. It still sounded thin or a tad artificial. Maybe adding a saturation from Fabfilter may have helped some. Now the question becomes what happens to the analog piece ran through those same inserts? 😊 That would be interesting.
Great patches. I found the programming was a bit different from the Juno to the Uno, listening to things like the flange, and pitch mod rates. These subtleties may not be exactly the same dial in settings from one to the other. Using your ears to tweak the settings on the software synth is what might take it to the last 2 percent.
Whats good chris i hope your well brother, great job with this one, its amazing with all the tools we have access to these days its soo much easier to put everything digital through a analog modelled chain especially with all the great tech thats come out in recent years and yes its still not close to the hardware but with the right tools and knowledge it can get to 90% there, in our community theres always gonna be debate over analog gear be it with synths to microphones to preamps but one thing i can say is we are definetly heading towards the right direction and thanks to people like yourself chris we have access to knowledge. thank you and keep up the good work.
My only gripe is you kept talking in between each time instead of switching between the Juno and the plugin without interruption. Aside from that, well done. I also think it's close enough that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in full mix. The real thing does make it much faster to get there. The real thing would also be much better to have if it's going to be heavily featured in the song, like the music from Stranger Things for example.
I use a WES Audio beta 76 and a WES Audio LC-EQP as outboard gear and run my VST synths through it. It gives them right away more "fatness", "richness" or whatever you might wanna call it. Of course there are some downsides to it, especially because then those tracks are printed, but most synth VSTs are way too cpu-heavy anyways. So if you have some decent outboard gear (or even cheap stuff) try to run your VST synths first through those and see what happens! :)
Very close indeed but these last 5 to 10% fatness unfortunately still does not come out the plug-ins. I wonder why it is that difficult. With the plug-ins added it became indeed even closer and in a mix no one will be able to say which is the hardware and which is the softwate. Thanks man for this demo and all your effort.
Very nice but I think I notice again that characteristic from plugins, that is, not so much depth, spaciousness as the hardware and it's bottom end! Despite all the plugin effects . But then again perhaps there needs to be more experiments with different types of effects to replicate the true thing. Also , I have yet to find a plugin synth that sounds big like my JD990.
Close enough for me, in a busy mix it will probably not even be noticeable. And with the plugin I can run multiple instances simultaneously. There's even a free version of the TAL-U-No softsynth here: tal-software.com/products/tal-u-no-62
Hello Chris, I signed up through the link provided but I can't find the presets used in this video. I got an email, followed by a link and the link shows an introduction for a mixing course but I can't find the presets. Could you pass the link just for the presets? Thanks =)
Your Microkorg will not sound like a Juno cause it's not a Juno but yes, you can set it up as a MIDI controller with MIDI cables and use the U-NO-LX VST Instrument to generate the sounds
@@calbeats5409 A simple high quality EQ like fabfilter does wonders. With the right setting- this takes ages to learn, I'm feeling like getting there finally, after years. The trick is to make it breathe with the rest of the mix. BTW I have a 106 here and while I absolutely love TAL and their plugins the real hardware is a totally different story in terms of expression and sound texture. And you will not make it "better" with putting more plugins on top, just live with it like it is and make music, there is no reason for chasing analog ghosts.
nothing wrong with digital, best synths were developed digital in the 70s also digital recording. Sony and Philips fucked up big time in the early 80s with their crap standard red book.
Great video Chris. In my youth (80's) I had the pleasure to visit a nice studio in Gothenburg Sweden. Built on sand and all the rest. Great place. The had a Lexicon Reverb. It cost about 50 000 $ us then, Yamaha DX7. WOW. Digital was the future. But it's strange it's gone from analogue, to digital, back to digital/analogue. What's next, Vintage digital-analogue-danalogue. Who knows. Good to be alive.
Or maybe mixing in Cubase VST on Windows 95, that would be vintage ;-) Yes, it's good to be alive!
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As a Juno 106 owner, I must say the TAL Uno-lx is very close. I ended up using a Uno-lx bass instead of the real Juno today, as I thought the sound was actually better! Juno was grittier, but I did not wantthe grit. I think one of the voice chips sounds a bit wonky!
I used the TAL soft synth for years but it always took a few plug ins to warm it up. Boosting the bottom end helps too. I have a Juno 106 and the beauty of it is that you just plug it in and go. It also has a bit of magic about it and it's nice to play with rather than moving knobs and sliders with a mouse. That said, for end results the soft synths are pretty great for convenience (and cost). I still prefer the hardware every time though!
I like the analog synths as well, especially to move the nobs and control them manually
they sound the same to me
I have a very similar template preset for my VA synths, but I should definitely try throwing on a console emulation before the tape saturation, sounds really nice. Thanks for the tutorial!
Cool stuff! Thanks for watching
i actually prefer the sound of the TAL-U-NO-LX without the effects over the juno 106.
I definitely liked the analog in this instance a lot more. It had more presence and girth especially in the mids and bass end. The plugin even with the inserts still was missing something. It still sounded thin or a tad artificial. Maybe adding a saturation from Fabfilter may have helped some. Now the question becomes what happens to the analog piece ran through those same inserts? 😊 That would be interesting.
I'm impressed that you can even hear "the analog" given that the 106 has digitally-controlled oscillators.
How do I make my hardware Virtual Analogs sound more extra bombastic aggro-elastic VA and not cliche 1970s circus music though? 😉
Do you have the setting for the first sound on the ONO?? pleaseee
Great patches. I found the programming was a bit different from the Juno to the Uno, listening to things like the flange, and pitch mod rates. These subtleties may not be exactly the same dial in settings from one to the other. Using your ears to tweak the settings on the software synth is what might take it to the last 2 percent.
6:05 the reason you didn't get the same low end is because the plug-in emulates juno 60 and juno 60 has less low end than juno 106
Whats good chris i hope your well brother, great job with this one, its amazing with all the tools we have access to these days its soo much easier to put everything digital through a analog modelled chain especially with all the great tech thats come out in recent years and yes its still not close to the hardware but with the right tools and knowledge it can get to 90% there, in our community theres always gonna be debate over analog gear be it with synths to microphones to preamps but one thing i can say is we are definetly heading towards the right direction and thanks to people like yourself chris we have access to knowledge. thank you and keep up the good work.
I agree with you Franco, we are definitely heading towards the right direction. Thanks for your comment brother :-)
If you take the full revamped version, the not free one from TAL, UNO-LX, everything sounds exactly 99.999% the same as on a juno 60.
Just like Andrew Scheps stated on YT and as a multi award winning sound guru he is is more than allowed to say : 'Analog is a myth'
It's certainly a myth in the case of the 106. It's oscillators are digitally controlled.
My only gripe is you kept talking in between each time instead of switching between the Juno and the plugin without interruption. Aside from that, well done.
I also think it's close enough that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in full mix. The real thing does make it much faster to get there. The real thing would also be much better to have if it's going to be heavily featured in the song, like the music from Stranger Things for example.
I use a WES Audio beta 76 and a WES Audio LC-EQP as outboard gear and run my VST synths through it. It gives them right away more "fatness", "richness" or whatever you might wanna call it. Of course there are some downsides to it, especially because then those tracks are printed, but most synth VSTs are way too cpu-heavy anyways. So if you have some decent outboard gear (or even cheap stuff) try to run your VST synths first through those and see what happens! :)
Very close indeed but these last 5 to 10% fatness unfortunately still does not come out the plug-ins. I wonder why it is that difficult. With the plug-ins added it became indeed even closer and in a mix no one will be able to say which is the hardware and which is the softwate. Thanks man for this demo and all your effort.
I agree with you! Thanks for watching :-)
Great! What is the preset used in U-NO-LX for the first demo? It says Manu3, but I guess that was renamed.
It's a custom preset made from scratch by my friend Manu
Can you share the first one? The pad sound one. Thanks :)
I just made these Presets available for FREE... Follow this link mixdown.online/en/get-in-the-zone/
Very nice but I think I notice again that characteristic from plugins, that is, not so much depth, spaciousness as the hardware and it's bottom end! Despite all the plugin effects . But then again perhaps there needs to be more experiments with different types of effects to replicate the true thing. Also , I have yet to find a plugin synth that sounds big like my JD990.
Close enough for me, in a busy mix it will probably not even be noticeable. And with the plugin I can run multiple instances simultaneously. There's even a free version of the TAL-U-No softsynth here: tal-software.com/products/tal-u-no-62
Close enough to me too! I think that the free one is the first version which is stripped down compare to the V2... But it's free, so why not :-)
We get rid of low-end and mud, so nobody would be known the wiser, once the mix is complete.
The Tal U-NO-LX is one of the plugins, which sounds better than the original synth.
Happy you like it!
Hello Chris, I signed up through the link provided but I can't find the presets used in this video. I got an email, followed by a link and the link shows an introduction for a mixing course but I can't find the presets. Could you pass the link just for the presets? Thanks =)
Hello rope! Send me an email and I'll send you the presets no problem info@mixdownonline.com ... I also updated the link in the video description.
what does the console plugin do?
Would be kind to share the patch settings from U NO at 3:55?
Of course, just follow this link mixdown.online/en/get-in-the-zone/ Free stuff to download included those patches :-)
How do you get this sound? I clicked the link which was no help :(
thank you dope video
Hi Chris! have you try VIRTUAL SYNTHS run thru hardware outboard gear？
Yes, check this video :-) ua-cam.com/video/avq-ByLsC-c/v-deo.html
You did a really good job.
Thanks!
Where can I get this preset pack? I have the u-no already I just want these settings they are SO GOOD.
I just made the presets available for free here: mixdown.online/en/get-in-the-zone/ enjoy!
@@mixdownonline Hey, link doesn't work anymore. Please help!
@@gregortursicsibenik9060 Try it again, I just fixed it!
Very Informative Thanks From Pakistan
Awesome, thanks!
Can you please upload the presets again? The link doesn't work...
Try this one mixdown.mykajabi.com/opt-in/
I would be curious to hear what adjustments FabFilter ProQ 2 would have suggested if you used its EQ match function. Especially in the third track.
Didn't try that function! Maybe I should.
hey chris it is possible to do vst connect 9.5 cubase tutorial?it will be so cool
I'll have to work with it first which I didn't do yet! Thanks for the suggestion :-)
Chris Selim - Mixdown Online tnx (:
Ei Chris...Whats that Pad preset on Uno Lx? Very similar to Imposcar 2 Fat pad.. :)
If you're on my mailing list, the presets are available for you to download
This should be conected by midi? I'm connecting my microkorg to my interface and it does not get any change in the sound. Someone could help me out?
Are you trying to use the microkorg as a MIDI controller?
I want to play my microkorg and sound like Juno, I guess I should buy midi wires, am I right?
Your Microkorg will not sound like a Juno cause it's not a Juno but yes, you can set it up as a MIDI controller with MIDI cables and use the U-NO-LX VST Instrument to generate the sounds
you look like Laurence Fishbourne with a beard :)
Americuh's answer to Romesh Ranganathan !
80s is the super
YEAH!
Those low harmonics that you added, are messing up the definition of the sounds in the low end. Much better without.
How would he fix this then? The U No does lack the original rich bass.
@@calbeats5409 A simple high quality EQ like fabfilter does wonders. With the right setting- this takes ages to learn, I'm feeling like getting there finally, after years. The trick is to make it breathe with the rest of the mix. BTW I have a 106 here and while I absolutely love TAL and their plugins the real hardware is a totally different story in terms of expression and sound texture. And you will not make it "better" with putting more plugins on top, just live with it like it is and make music, there is no reason for chasing analog ghosts.
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nothing wrong with digital, best synths were developed digital in the 70s also digital recording. Sony and Philips fucked up big time in the early 80s with their crap standard red book.