My number one go to turner together with Richard Raffan. The close-up detail is exactly what we need, in sharp focus, with no waffle, sadly loved by so many turners. If a demonstrator starts telling me what his aunt had for breakfast a week ago, I stop and watch no further. My time is limited, I used to teach a medical science course and every word had to have value, students have limited time. Some demonstrators in wood turning are almost dangerous, some feel they always have to have their face and walls of tools in shot, basically a waste of time. Every video I have watched between these two experts has taught me volumes, hard to beat in my opinion. Greetings from Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺 😊
I have to agree with all of the above comments. Tomislav and Richard are my go too Chanel’s . Tomislav explains tool use very well and I love to see how much Richard can get out of a lump of wood at the bandsaw😅
Thanks Thomas every time I watch your vidios I learn more I realy like that you explain everything with such detail im getting better even on my old lathe
Excellent comparison. Your conclusion makes sense -- the wood doesn't know what tool you are using, it only knows the cutting edge and angle being presented to it.
I’ve discovered your videos some time back and the more I watched them the more intrigued I was. You are clear and concise in your instructions and typically get to the point rather quickly than opposed to dragging it out just because. You have quickly become one of my favorites. Awesome job with all the variety.
Великолепно, Томислав! Отличное видео, которое снимает все вопросы.Это прекрасные инструменты для мелкой точной работы. После твоего первого видео я сделал себе такой же, прекрасно работает. Тем более, что с перекосом у меня до сих пор небольшие проблемы. Спасибо огромное за твою работу., за учёбу и знания, которые приходят от тебя. Удачи тебе!
I really like your method of teaching .Wish I was able to find someone in my area with your skill and teaching ability to further my knowledge. Great job!!!
Hi Tomislav, as always a great lesson but I think that what ever tool we choose to use, with practice we can achieve a good finish. Ultimately there is no perfect tool, cutting will generally give a better finish than scraping on most woods.
You Are Right Edward, I might add that some tools are just feeling natural for someone so I always like to investigate option and its fun for me as well to test it.☺️
You say “hopefully I haven’t wasted your time with this video” near the end. NO it was not a waste of time, actually this was the most informative exciting tutorial I have ever seen, with some of the best footage showing the difference between tools, in the most understandable explanation I have had the pleasure of watching! Seriously, thank you so very much. I feel the need to go practice and follow this example step by step repeatedly and emblazon this into my thick skull! I want crisper beads dang it! I will give you some feedback on turning small beads with the Master Spindle. Scott
A Sorby spindle master has a highly polished bevel that burnishes the cut. It is excellent on soft woods but struggles on harder woods wanting to slip off the bevel, it must be hand sharpened on a stone or diamond card, you never grind the bevel. Thank you for sharing this. I am interested in the spindle gouge and will probably make one.
The Spindle Master from Sorby was their attempt to recreate an Allen Batty tool, and in Allen's words, "they got it all wrong!". To me, they were way too thin and I would get a lot of chatter. I do have several of Doug Thompson's 'fluteless gouges, which are half round stock and 5/8 inch on down to 1/4. I do like them, mostly for a BOB (bottom of bowl) tool with a 65 degree bevel. There was a similar bigger tool, I think Trach Owens was the maker, but they weren't around for long, maybe 1 inch wide. I really need to make one of the Del Stubbs variations. The Allen Batty tool was more similar to Cindy Drozda's 'vortex' tool, which was swept back quite a bit and good for getting into deep spots for detail type work. I have one, but don't use it much, in part because I don't do that type of detail work.
Yes, Im Aware of all different options,most of them I tried,this somehow feel right and fits me... For lack of better words 😂 Thank you for your input sir
Yet another incredibly useful video thank you so much for sharing! i am so very curious how you went about getting the hollow grind on the top of that spindle skew gouge. Just flipping it over so the top is on the wheel perpendicular and running the length. or is there a better more consistent way of doing it?
Always appreciate your videos! I am in awe of your ability with skew. I believe it is one of the most versatile lathe tools, but haven't been able to master. Are there any particular videos you might find the MOST helpful for learning the skew?
I have a video,few weeks old, two part ,first is on shapeing and angles for skew and second part is on using skew and how to make a lot of catches 😅. Also Richard Raffan has several videos on skew
Thanks again for a very informative video. The more I learn, the more I find out I need to learn. I have a Sorby 1/2" round nose scraper that I never use. Just not for the kind of turning I do. I'm now thinking about re-shaping it into something similar to your slightly hollowed tool. Is there any reason that I'm not aware of to not do that??
Hi Randy,as always thank you for watching.... Try using it without hollow on top, if you find it works for you, you can always add hollow later, in terms of how to use the tool, they are both the same only different is that with hollow its just ever so slighty easier to push through wood
Great video tommi. Well explained as always. If the skew is the best for doing this work and you can use it competently, why would you want to use another tool? I appreciate the fact the skew chgouge, doesn’t catch as easily and certainly is good for people to learn how to use skew better. Why would you continue to use it rather than skew when competency of skew is achieved? Thanks for sharing. All the best to you and your family tommi from down under in Oz.
Thank you sir, wish you and your family are well? Its good question, I just enjoy using skew/gouge, the ease of working with it is second to none.... But its not the best tool for every task.... Now I know few production turners who use something similar as well, they know how to use skew but they just enjoy using other tool for the job.... Thank you very much for watching and support what I do 🤗
with some of the very soft wood here in my region of Brazil I had better luck using a skew with a very extreme angle, almost 20 degrees sharpened to 40, very similar to what some eastern turners use
Indeed, I would also sharpen to very long bevel if I had more of that kind of wood to turn,in like series.... But this angle on skew works great for me on soft and hardwoods☺️
I really enjoy watching your videos. I feel that I am getting to be a much better turner with these instructional videos. Thank you for taking the time to teach me and all your other viewers.
I have not watched the video yet totally but I wanted to comment that my Sorby Master Spindle does NOT have a flat bottom at all. It is rounded completely, not a small radius but larger and its total thickness is 3/16” and it is 1/2” wide. The arc of the bottom is a continuous curve making it seem like a very thin tool overall. It is a curve much like the flute of a spindle gouge just on bottom. I purchased it a few months ago as a Sorby Master Spindle and has the Sorby name and Sheffield England etched on the top of the metal. It is very unusual compared to most other conventional tools. I wonder what the difference between yours and mine is? I don’t think yours is the actual Master Spindle, forgive me if I’m wrong. The bevel grind looks similar but the bottom is completely different. I will now watch the video and save further comment for later.
You mentioned at one point it was your version of the Sorby Master Spindle. That clears up the mystery! I am going to go through the same process you did with my skew, detail spindle, regular spindle, and the Sorby Master Spindle. I have been using the detail spindle for smaller beads and I am pretty proficient with it but you showing how it scrapes the flute side (outside) of the bead totally makes sense and I am anxious to try the flat top master spindle for this. I can cut decent beads with the skew but I just am not as comfortable with it. Something in between skew and spindle gouge looks like it might be ideal. This is one of the best tutorials I have ever seen before! No joke! Amazing stuff and I thank you!! Scott
Hi Scott, thank you very much for kind words and support 🤗 Not sure ,maybe I said it wrong in video, what I ment was the sorby spindle master has flat top,much like standard scrapers, the bottom is rounded over, but the top is flat.... On my version or Del Stubbs its flat bottom with rounded edges and top has a slight hollow, less then detail gouge.... Hopefully that makes sense, I do have a few weeks old video little more in depth on this tool and its maybe more visible on that hollow top☺️ Sorby spindle master is pretty much the same as this Skew gouge but just a fraction more effort to go through wood.... But works the same and finish is the same.... Thank you once again 🤗
My number one go to turner together with Richard Raffan. The close-up detail is exactly what we need, in sharp focus, with no waffle, sadly loved by so many turners. If a demonstrator starts telling me what his aunt had for breakfast a week ago, I stop and watch no further. My time is limited, I used to teach a medical science course and every word had to have value, students have limited time. Some demonstrators in wood turning are almost dangerous, some feel they always have to have their face and walls of tools in shot, basically a waste of time. Every video I have watched between these two experts has taught me volumes, hard to beat in my opinion. Greetings from Tasmania Australia 🇦🇺 😊
I completely agree with your assesment. Richard and Tomislav are there to teach, others are there to entertain. I prefer the teachers.
I very much agree with all of this
I have to agree with all of the above comments. Tomislav and Richard are my go too Chanel’s . Tomislav explains tool use very well and I love to see how much Richard can get out of a lump of wood at the bandsaw😅
Thank you all for this kind words,means a lot to get a feedback like this.☺️
Thanks Thomas every time I watch your vidios I learn more I realy like that you explain everything with such detail im getting better even on my old lathe
Thank you, I'm glad to hear my videos arw helping
12:15 “just raise and lower the handle”. I’m mentally storing that technique for future use! Thanks Tomislav!
We all do that 👍 thank you for watching
Excellent comparison. Your conclusion makes sense -- the wood doesn't know what tool you are using, it only knows the cutting edge and angle being presented to it.
I’ve discovered your videos some time back and the more I watched them the more intrigued I was. You are clear and concise in your instructions and typically get to the point rather quickly than opposed to dragging it out just because. You have quickly become one of my favorites. Awesome job with all the variety.
Thank you sir, really appriciate that ☺️
Великолепно, Томислав! Отличное видео, которое снимает все вопросы.Это прекрасные инструменты для мелкой точной работы. После твоего первого видео я сделал себе такой же, прекрасно работает. Тем более, что с перекосом у меня до сих пор небольшие проблемы. Спасибо огромное за твою работу., за учёбу и знания, которые приходят от тебя. Удачи тебе!
Thank you very much 🤗
I really like your method of teaching .Wish I was able to find someone in my area with your skill and teaching ability to further my knowledge. Great job!!!
Thank you very much, If you can't find anyone, then just spend more time practicing, its longer path but also you can learn a lot on it
Thank you for the great demonstration on the use and comparison of these 4 tools in the various situations. Thank you!
Thank You Johnny for watching and support what I do 🤗
Hi Tomislav, as always a great lesson but I think that what ever tool we choose to use, with practice we can achieve a good finish. Ultimately there is no perfect tool, cutting will generally give a better finish than scraping on most woods.
You Are Right Edward, I might add that some tools are just feeling natural for someone so I always like to investigate option and its fun for me as well to test it.☺️
Great demonstration of how these tools work. Thanks for sharing this.
Great information again! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
Thank you for watching
thanks Tomislav - once again your videos give us more information and incentive to increase our skill with different tools.
Thank you Ian
Thanks, you teach very well, easy to understand and easy to implement.
6:43 That Sorby is much, much louder than your skew chisel.
You are awesome. I will share this video often with new turners. So useful for standard spindle shapes - Thank you!
Really glad to hear that ☺️ thank you very much
You say “hopefully I haven’t wasted your time with this video” near the end. NO it was not a waste of time, actually this was the most informative exciting tutorial I have ever seen, with some of the best footage showing the difference between tools, in the most understandable explanation I have had the pleasure of watching! Seriously, thank you so very much. I feel the need to go practice and follow this example step by step repeatedly and emblazon this into my thick skull! I want crisper beads dang it! I will give you some feedback on turning small beads with the Master Spindle. Scott
Thank you Scott for this kind feedback and support.... Please do try spindle master and let me know how it works for you
Great lesson Tomislav.
A Sorby spindle master has a highly polished bevel that burnishes the cut. It is excellent on soft woods but struggles on harder woods wanting to slip off the bevel, it must be hand sharpened on a stone or diamond card, you never grind the bevel. Thank you for sharing this. I am interested in the spindle gouge and will probably make one.
I ment I will make a skew gouge.
Thank You for watching 🤗
It’s always useful to learn more about how to use the tools
The Spindle Master from Sorby was their attempt to recreate an Allen Batty tool, and in Allen's words, "they got it all wrong!". To me, they were way too thin and I would get a lot of chatter. I do have several of Doug Thompson's 'fluteless gouges, which are half round stock and 5/8 inch on down to 1/4. I do like them, mostly for a BOB (bottom of bowl) tool with a 65 degree bevel. There was a similar bigger tool, I think Trach Owens was the maker, but they weren't around for long, maybe 1 inch wide. I really need to make one of the Del Stubbs variations. The Allen Batty tool was more similar to Cindy Drozda's 'vortex' tool, which was swept back quite a bit and good for getting into deep spots for detail type work. I have one, but don't use it much, in part because I don't do that type of detail work.
Yes, Im Aware of all different options,most of them I tried,this somehow feel right and fits me... For lack of better words 😂
Thank you for your input sir
Great comparison of the tools. I just need to practice more with them.
Fabulous informative video Tomislav!!😊
Thank you very much 🤗
Great video. My trouble is that I want to buy each of the “new” tools you demonstrate.
Ohh , hopefully you won't get in throuble with better half, 😀 thank you very much for watching
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning I try to keep it a secret but she usually finds out🤣🤣
Far from a waste of time. Finally learned good ways to use that Spindlemaster in my tool collection!
Yet another incredibly useful video thank you so much for sharing! i am so very curious how you went about getting the hollow grind on the top of that spindle skew gouge. Just flipping it over so the top is on the wheel perpendicular and running the length. or is there a better more consistent way of doing it?
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This video should help you out☺️
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning oh wow perfect I was wondering which video it was thanks so much!!!
So useful. Thank you.
this video was great! learned a lot.
Always appreciate your videos!
I am in awe of your ability with skew. I believe it is one of the most versatile lathe tools, but haven't been able to master. Are there any particular videos you might find the MOST helpful for learning the skew?
I have a video,few weeks old, two part ,first is on shapeing and angles for skew and second part is on using skew and how to make a lot of catches 😅.
Also Richard Raffan has several videos on skew
Thanks again for a very informative video. The more I learn, the more I find out I need to learn.
I have a Sorby 1/2" round nose scraper that I never use. Just not for the kind of turning I do. I'm now thinking about re-shaping it into something similar to your slightly hollowed tool. Is there any reason that I'm not aware of to not do that??
Hi Randy,as always thank you for watching.... Try using it without hollow on top, if you find it works for you, you can always add hollow later, in terms of how to use the tool, they are both the same only different is that with hollow its just ever so slighty easier to push through wood
Great video tommi.
Well explained as always.
If the skew is the best for doing this work and you can use it competently, why would you want to use another tool?
I appreciate the fact the skew chgouge, doesn’t catch as easily and certainly is good for people to learn how to use skew better. Why would you continue to use it rather than skew when competency of skew is achieved?
Thanks for sharing. All the best to you and your family tommi from down under in Oz.
Thank you sir, wish you and your family are well?
Its good question, I just enjoy using skew/gouge, the ease of working with it is second to none.... But its not the best tool for every task.... Now I know few production turners who use something similar as well, they know how to use skew but they just enjoy using other tool for the job....
Thank you very much for watching and support what I do 🤗
Great video! thank you
🕶thanks Tomislav
These don’t have a burr, correct?
Thats correct sir
There all great when used by someone like you.
Thank you sir
with some of the very soft wood here in my region of Brazil I had better luck using a skew with a very extreme angle, almost 20 degrees sharpened to 40, very similar to what some eastern turners use
Indeed, I would also sharpen to very long bevel if I had more of that kind of wood to turn,in like series.... But this angle on skew works great for me on soft and hardwoods☺️
I really enjoy watching your videos. I feel that I am getting to be a much better turner with these instructional videos. Thank you for taking the time to teach me and all your other viewers.
I have not watched the video yet totally but I wanted to comment that my Sorby Master Spindle does NOT have a flat bottom at all. It is rounded completely, not a small radius but larger and its total thickness is 3/16” and it is 1/2” wide. The arc of the bottom is a continuous curve making it seem like a very thin tool overall. It is a curve much like the flute of a spindle gouge just on bottom. I purchased it a few months ago as a Sorby Master Spindle and has the Sorby name and Sheffield England etched on the top of the metal. It is very unusual compared to most other conventional tools. I wonder what the difference between yours and mine is? I don’t think yours is the actual Master Spindle, forgive me if I’m wrong. The bevel grind looks similar but the bottom is completely different. I will now watch the video and save further comment for later.
You mentioned at one point it was your version of the Sorby Master Spindle. That clears up the mystery! I am going to go through the same process you did with my skew, detail spindle, regular spindle, and the Sorby Master Spindle. I have been using the detail spindle for smaller beads and I am pretty proficient with it but you showing how it scrapes the flute side (outside) of the bead totally makes sense and I am anxious to try the flat top master spindle for this. I can cut decent beads with the skew but I just am not as comfortable with it. Something in between skew and spindle gouge looks like it might be ideal. This is one of the best tutorials I have ever seen before! No joke! Amazing stuff and I thank you!! Scott
Hi Scott, thank you very much for kind words and support 🤗
Not sure ,maybe I said it wrong in video, what I ment was the sorby spindle master has flat top,much like standard scrapers, the bottom is rounded over, but the top is flat....
On my version or Del Stubbs its flat bottom with rounded edges and top has a slight hollow, less then detail gouge....
Hopefully that makes sense, I do have a few weeks old video little more in depth on this tool and its maybe more visible on that hollow top☺️
Sorby spindle master is pretty much the same as this Skew gouge but just a fraction more effort to go through wood.... But works the same and finish is the same....
Thank you once again 🤗
Shame you didn’t use a real Sorby Spindle Master. As a result your assessment cannot be taken as a true result.
True true but not much different in sorby spindle master then the one in this video.