*The "Kyle is wrong!" FAQ* 1. Even if the bullets are simply being redirected, and aren't shattering (we do see them shatter though), Diana would still have to be considering the paths of the ricochets in a similar way, which would be VERY hard to do on the fly. (UPDATING) -- KH
But Diana's bracers DO absorb momentum, you can see that when she fights a superstrong opponent, when she recieves a strong hit and blocks it she barely moves back (and the ground around her suffers only minor damage)
if she is able to see the bullet as they show maybe she positions the braces to block the bullet such that the trajectory is always radial to the cylinder that is her braces, in that case the bullet would just fall off, like it did in the pilot's (forgot his name :P) hand in that alley scene where diana saves him and hence she does not need to calculate trajectories or plot ricochets.
I'm going with my explanation. I.e. if we could almost do it now, wonder woman's people could do it. The bracers have something like SBCs in them. Single Board Computers. They interact with her nervous system to TELL her where to place her hands to minimize shrapnel. Such a thing would also be useful when she slams the bracelets together to create a shock wave. How does she know how hard to slam the bracelets together to get a certain blast wave?.SBCs.
I've always thought Wonder Woman just takes advantage of her round bracers to *deflect* the bullets, controlling and redirecting their trajectory safely. The sparks we see are simply sparks made by friction between the bullet and bracer.
Sparks from metal come from pieces of metal, fragmented so fine, that they ignite in the air. If the bullets weren't breaking apart at all, then there would be no sparks. "Friction" isn't sufficient to explain what we see. -- KH
stil need to calculate that as too deflect a bullet so it doesnt harm anyone around her she still needs to calculate the correct angle to hit the bullet with her bracers either way she still need to be good at physics and math
Thanks for replying! It's true, there's probably some disconnect between my idea of sparks and what it's actually like in real life Anyways I just rewatched a clip of Wonder Woman deflecting the bullets in the movie, and you were right. Wonder Woman does make a noticable effort to deflect the bullets away from herself to form a "safety cone". Some of the fragments definitely went into her face, but we can just give her the benefit of the doubt and attribute that to inexperience. However, I also noticed that the sparks sort of lose most of their horizontal momentum. In fact, you can see in one of the shots where they don't even move pass Wonder Woman, instead simply falling to her feet. So perhaps she doesn't have to be too worried about how she controls the trajectory of the bullet fragments since they're travelling slowly enough after the block that they won't hurt her? But that's just speculation, so who knows for sure. Either ways, thanks again for replying. It's awesome when content creators actually take the effort to participate in discussions in the comments!
Jian Ling Lim i noticed that if you consider the abilitly of the bracers to absorb energy attacks from enemies then wouldnt it be possible to absorb the kinetic energy from the bullet and thus actually slowing down the fragment speed just as you said
Happy thanksgiving! I'm thankful for that sweet sweet science you just laid down! Here's a good one for ya: with the new Thor movies basically establishing him as just an alien from another world and that Odin specifically says that they are not gods, basically making Thor more like Superman's backstory, the question is who would win Superman or Thor?
She'd also have to be able to move incredibly fast, which means she could punch you and turn your face and head into jelly. She might not even *have* to punch you. Her fist would be moving way faster than sound so the blast from that vortex alone would at least make you shit your pants. You don't want to fight Wonder Woman is what I'm saying.
As an aside, remember where she burst the doors down in JL and was throwing bad guys around like they were rag dolls? No point in antagonizing her if you want to live.
I'm surprised you didn't include the scene in Justice League, where she's deflecting shots from a machine gun at a very close range, and protecting multiple people as fast as possible.
Another theory could be that her bracelets do not shatter objects but fully stop them in a molecular level, making the object and its particles lose any momentum without breaking its shape.
Steve Strangelove but we see in the movie that it flattens the bullet from the German luger pistol. So it does affect it's shape but I think it's just the matter of it doesn't allow the bullet to shrapnelize upon impact.
I want to point out that her reaction time you estimated could be greatly reduced if she reads the people aiming the gun and tells where and when they would fire. What is truly amazing is when she turned and watched a bullet move in bullet time. Now that is amazing
Are they though? From what I can see the bracers have an ellipsoid cross-section, so the area covering the top and bottoms of the forearms (the areas she almost always blocks with) are much flatter and less likely to spall the bullet in a cone around the sides. In fact we even see it in the movie several times, such as in the alley scene where she blocks the bullet and it falls into Pine's hand, intact apart from being compressed. I think the real question is why does she need the bracers at all, when her skin appears to be impenetrable anyways? Deflected metal sparks like in the crossing the field scene don't even singe her hair or skin, and she routinely is crushing steel plate armor and exploding church steeples without a mark to show for it. I'm guessing she'd be much better as a human shield, but that wouldn't make for scenes nearly as dramatic!
KaitoTV the flash is faster than WW. He can see the bullets almost frozen in place and has way more time to react, which allows him to grab them or move them. WW can only afford to block
yeah i understand that but the main point is just to not let the bullet hit the innocents, right...then WW can do it effortless...and also the part in JL where the flash was shot in the leg and can't run? they made the flash look dumb
true, and don't get me wrong, i like most of the flash's part in the movie, but that bullet to his legs part is just so so dumb, and also the part where he literally quicksilver'd on to the wall to push WW's sword
Talking about Diana's reaction time, I believe it's canon that she has vastly accelerated perception because when she's shot at, we see from her perspective that she's watching the bullets fly at her in slow motion (during the trench scene she has this look of wonder on her face like "did I just do that?" upon realizing she can see them coming)
Mr. Awesome Animations study is one thing, but calculate everything on site, in every situation, fast enough, is far another. Instead do the math, she probably have a superior ballistic sense, allowing her limbic system "feel" the trajectory of a shard much before the rest of the brain figure out anything. Well, daughter of Ares instead Heracles, I suppose...
Captain America actually states in his comic that the reason he's able to calculate precisely and on the fly where and at what velocity to throw his shield so as to rebound it back to himself is because he can think faster than a normal human!
(Diana is 5,000 years old in the DCEU continuity, being conceived by Hippolyta via Zeus not long after he established the island behind the powerful enchantment; in the Lynda Carter version, she would be approx. 2,572 in 2022; in the comics her age varies from often being only as old as she actually appears -- in her 20s or 30s, being created only a couple/few decades ago via Hippolyta and Aphrodite's/other goddesses' blessings -- to approximately 100 for the original golden-era/Earth-2 WW who was only in her early 20s when she arrived in Patriarch's World in late 1941 and would be 100-110 in her personal timeline "presently", but looking like she's only in her 60s due to aging slower than humans do, but still aging as she gave up her immortality when she left the island and even as a goddess, which was the original WW's end-run, lost in time (which is the currently undefined fate for the original WW) she appears older.)
@@CopernicoTube For the DCEU WW, when at her normal power levels, she doesn't have to worry about ricochets/shrapnel as her divine energy causes the bullets to disintegrate into nothingness. (Only in her reduced power levels do the bullets not disintegrate and potentially pose a danger from collateral deflection, such as occurred in WW84 at the White House battle.) For the comics, where WW is most often more powerful than in the DCEU movies, she's actually much faster than in the DCEU and can/does deflect bullets at "x" angles so as not to harm others. (Several instances demonstrating this physical/mental speed include when she was tested by the military when she first arrived in Patriarch's World in the Post Crisis era, deflecting simultaneous machinegun fire from three soldiers and being fast enough to charge them while being shot at and disarming them in the hundredth of a second between bullet-discharges for the three machine guns; and later in the story "Gods and Goddesses" she notes to herself, while deflecting multiple machine gun attacks, that the attackers spreading a wider arc in front of her makes it trickier to direct the ricochets so that they don't harm anyone.)
Well, we all know she's basically female Superman, including super speed along side her inhuman reaction time. So it's possible that she's not just "blocking" bullets, but actually "redirecting" them. It may be that she is using her super speed along with the curve of her bracers to lightly "push" the bullets in a harmless direction.
@@nosuchthing8 Although it doesn't explain why she didn't just blitz the bad guy in that one scene. She could have blocked all the bullets and had him by the throat before he turned a single degree.
@@Kazuma11290 agree 100%. It was odd. Maybe she was overwhelmed from blocking all those bullets at such close range. She might have been working close to failure.
that Wonder Woman Spin was EVERYTHING!! here's some Wonder Woman (ala Lynda Carter) trivia: in all 3 seasons of Ms. Carter's 70's W.W. tv show, the Wonder Spin (which she came up with btw) was in reference to America and the American flag. If u notice that when she spun, the burst of light seen by the audience was, in fact, red, white & blue !! Lynda Carter is & will always be Wonder Woman in my world 💫💥🌟 !!
actually she doesnt need to worry about shrapnel because wonder woman is bulletproof =/ proof : static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111127507/5144108-6278333764-Bulle.jpg and her superpower is great eyesight hah!
patricio torre bulletproof means that the projectile cant penetrate into her body. But it can do damage that will eventually fatigue her. Also she ricochets the bullets back to enemies.
I always want to know how they edit these videos. Like every time something moves but then Kyle interacts with it as if it's right where he left it on the board is really neat
*SPOILER ALERT QUESTION* In Justice League, Diana is able to block every single bullet from an automatic rifle. How fast does she have to move to block every single one?
Or, it's all subconscious, like the way Cyclops of the X-Men can visualize the trajectories of his optic force beams, bouncing them off of walls and vehicles.
I'm not sure if it's been addressed in the movies yet - I'm not about to torture myself with Superman vs Batman again to check and I've not yet seen Justice League - but in the comics, Wonder Woman is actually bulletproof. She doesn't actually NEED to block the bullets with her bracers (there's actually a funny parody comic floating around where she explains to Superman why she does anyway....jiggle jiggle). That easily explains the shrapnel issue for all except for the one bullet block, and that one is easily explained by the fact that the bullet, in that case, deformed rather than shattering, which is not terribly unrealistic for a copper jacketed round of that caliber.
José Villa. Even if they were, what that means still isn't all that great. She would still have to block the bullets directly because not all of the energy is directed at the cuffs and therefore not all the energy can be absorbed by the cuffs.
So Steppenwolf from the Justice League movie is able to grab a missile, inspect it, and let it go in the other direction. Is this simply a stylistic choice on behalf of the production team or is this feasibly possible because science?
Wonder Woman has had numerous reboots and continuities. In some of them, her bracelets/gauntlets were made of the fantasy metals "Feminum" or "Amazonium", both of which could have some fantasy properties that spit in the face of the physics. In another continuity, they were made of the melted down metal of Athen'a Aegis and retained the enchantments of the Olympian gods - so, yeah, because maaaaaagic!
"Athena, also referred to as Athene, is a very important goddess of many things. She is goddess of wisdom, courage, inspiration, civilization, law and justice, *strategic warfare*, mathematics, strength, *strategy*, the arts, crafts, and skill."
Yeah, Athena was always depicted as wearing armor, and was actually more associated with warfare than wisdom in Greek literature. She was wise, but she used her wisdom to either advise or deceive soldiers to turn battles towards the gods' will. At least that's how the illiad depicted her (at least the portion I read in highschool. Lol)
I mean Wonder Woman is also extremely durable almost as sturdy as Superman and she’s stated in the comics that she only blocks them because they sting a bit
The show is called "Because Science", not "Because Magic". It's about figuring out what it would take for these fictional things to be possible with our own laws of physics.
Yes we all know. Yes it’s in the name. It’s the reason we watch the show. Because science. But....at times when the science seems...eh lacking...it’s out duty as fans to rouse Kyle with a little friendly jeering. And it worked bc he obviously read the comment. And if you read my comment on his Instagram video about wonder woman you all would make the connection. But you guys are only half fans. You don’t make full connections. So you’re bad scientists too.
Finally! I just recently discovered this show and have watched fifty or so of the videos, and I finally got to the one where he thanks me by name! This is James, saying you are welcome Kyle.:-) keep up the good work, I love this show!
You should use the clip from the justice league where she blocked an entire clip of bullets from a fully automatic AR with the distance of about 10 ft.
I think the filmmakers might have thought of this. Most of the times you see her block bullets in the movie *she swipes across its path* right as it reaches her. So she's not just blocking it, she's adding angular momentum to redirect it. I hadn't thought of that before watching this, but I can totally see that being a conscious choice by the director/fight choreographer.
+Don't Censor Wonder Woman is on par with Superman, though. Are you telling me Thor is on par with, or stronger than, a guy that is LITERALLY infinitely strong?
Brian L Thor beat hulk only about as much as Hulk beat Thor. These two are practically on par (assuming Hulk isn't Planetbuster levels of angry, and as long as Thor has Mjölnir). Diana is on par with Superman, who is infinitely powerful.
You can't really use a video that is pretty much fan fiction to prove your point about a comic book character. You would have to cite something from the comics. Only canon material should be used.
It's certainly amazing! But highly likely that she can figure out the precise block she needs to do intuitively. She's a warrior trained for.... however many centuries. NBA players don't run the numbers on the ballistic trajectory of their 3 point shot, they just make the shot. Type 1 vs Type 2 thinking. I actually think it's more amazing that she's so good at blocking the bullets that she can do it that way. Big fan, LOVE the series Kyle.
Kyle, while I agree with your conclusion, I feel you are missing something very important. In this video you have not factored in the unique properties of her bracers. There ability to absorbed just about any impact and then release it. Like in the scene where the bracers take a direct hit from her aunt and then expels what looks like the same amount of force, knocking down several of the amazons. They can also absorb lightning and then direct at an enemy in the form of a blast.
I disagree. If this we the case, the bullets would hit the bracers and drop, from any angle. We don't see that happen in the film. Although I agree that the bracers appear to store some kind of energy (heat?). This is always the hard part with these kinds of analyses -- choosing what to considering and what to ignore. But my goal is first and foremost to explain something interesting. I hope I did that. -- KH
John Lemus. Why do Sparks come off if the bracers are absorbing energy??? And too absorb 100% of the energy she has to perfectly block the bullets, which she doesn't do sometimes. There should be shrapnel.
You know I love your videos man. They are the best. I think to get a better picture one has to slow the sequences down quite a bit. There is a scene where she blocks a bullet shot at close range and it falls down and Steve catches it in his hands. There are scenes where if you slow the footage down or pause it, you can see the bullet shrapnel flying off in different directions.
I thought Wonder Woman's bracers operated similarly to cap's shield, absorbing force. Thus her ability to withstand any force with her bracers and block things like magic. Whenever she blocks anything the energy is partially released in the visible spectrum, which is where the "sparks" come from and why other forces create light or "sparks" when they hit her bracers.
I love this series. It's like "Physics For Dummies" but told through a nerdy perspective so people like me (nerds) can understand it better. I've learned a lot about how certain things actually work just by watching this series alone.
Wonder Woman's indestructible bracers are absorbing some of that Kinetic Energy; those shrapnel pieces aren't continuing on with the force they would if they were hitting, say, a steel pipe. She's just so Wonderful.
one of the things that isn't calculated in this is the fact that wonder woman never seen a bullet before during the movie so being able to have knowledge of bullets and ballistics in general it's... not really possible so my personal thought on the matter is she's making the bullet skim off the side of her bracers to change the course of the bullet to a more... safe? direction. that is my thought on that matter here, not that shes super smart because she don't know shit about the modern life in that time frame in the movie.
Yes she has. During the battle of Themascera she literally watches one go right past her face and hit her friend. The movie even takes the time to show you how she can percive the bullets entire journey from the barrel to her friend. Thats how she learned about bullets. She never blocked any during the battle...but afterward she did.
A reaction time of 1/10th a second is correlated with an IQ of 193, batman registers at 192, but is specifically trained to perform a certain percentage beyond his base specs so his reaction time is less than 1/10th of a second and his ability to visualize things in real-time is on par with Captain America's, meaning he can predict and avoid the trajectory of bullets in a similar way to Captain America(which he trains every Robin to emulate, allowing them to doge bullets as evidenced in the film Under The Read Hood).
I dont think she has to calculate everything, i mean, when you Jump you dont calculate how much strenght you need to Jump to a certain height, you just do it
Not *CONSCIOUSLY*, but yes, your brain does have to calculate how to do that. The process of jumping involves the movement of almost every muscle in your legs and several others up through your lower body, and for higher jumps, your upper body and arms come into it as well. Then you have a series of further actions required in order to control the landing once gravity gets in the way of your attempt to fly. You don't directly and with full awareness think through all those muscle contractions and extensions but your brain does have to do a lot of calculations. Even just walking without falling over is a complex process that takes many months to learn on a basic level, and years more to become fluent enough with that you no longer have to spend conscious effort to keep yourself taking each step.
It's actually quite interesting when you stop and think how much information your brain has to process to perform simple tasks. No, it doesn't make you a genius. but being able to precisely control all the muscles needed to position a curved bracer in a spot where it'll deflect bullet fragments as accurately as Wonder Woman does? That would be much more complex. If someone could do that by pure instinct, I think that would be an even more impressive feat than being able to think it through consciously.
At the “thanks for watching, James” I spit out my drink and shouted “wtf” before registering that you were not in fact referring to this particular James
481morda my guess is that he is writing on a pane of glass, and the footage is flipped afterwards so he can write normally and the viewer doesn't have to read backwards. Some effects and animation is obviously done in post as well (anytime anything moves around), but isolating the drawings from a plain black background is relatively simple
Okay so I read the Wonder Woman Rebirth Year One comic two days ago and during the games to choose Themyscira's champion, it came down to three women and the last test was to block a bullet from just outside point-blank range. The first got straight-up shot (it's okay though since they're immortal), but the second woman's bracers actually made contact with her bullet but then it ricocheted off and shot her in the stomach.
If you think those simple scenes of her blocking bullet at a time, go see Justice League...actually don't, just find the scene where she blocks like 100 bullets in a matter of seconds to save people from a bank robbery. *Trust me this is not a spoiler* just a random scene, that was the only highlight of the movie imo.
In the movie from the 70's, she do a stage demonstration. An old grandma come on stage, say that she want to use her own weapon instead of the proposed revolver, take out a Thompson SMG, and fire at Wonder Woman from about 5m (less than half the stage width) at full automatic. The aim is anything but steady and she fire the whole magazine. Wonder Woman need to intercept all bullets, even those that would have missed her, to protect the stage crew behind her.
Maybe part of her skill to deflect bullets could also be some of the borrowed powers of the flash where she can speed up and everything else seems slower to her. The scene where the bullet shot from a soldier on the beach was slowed down and you could see her following the flight of the bullet as it went past her. I know this was covered in another of Kyle Hills videos but it could be applied to this as well.
DR METROPURSUIT she learned it when the Germans invaded on the fly and she knows her bracers could take them because of the blast she performed with them. Also she did learn ballistics prior to that. Bow and arrow training she just learned more when the Germans invaded. The woman speaks and reads 37 languages including sumarian which is believed to be rare and she knew about reproduction before she met Steve Trevor. She has a lot of knowledge.
We saw her observe a bullet in flight for the first time when the Amazonian behind her was hit in the abdomen. That gave her all she needed to know. Even though she is doing these intense calculations she may not be doing them consciously. Does a batter in baseball consciously calculate the trajectory of a baseball they swing at? No, their brain does a rough calculation enough to make a guess at the speed of their reaction time. With her increased reaction time her brain has much much more time to make that calculation. Not to mention its a comparably simpler calculation than hitting a baseball as the bullet is traveling in a more or less straight line (baseballs often move in surprisingly rediculous trajectories) and at a much slower speed relative to her reaction time.
Ballistics exist on the island. Arrows & spears/javelins are ballistic weapons. Not only is she superpowered being the offspring of A God but she has been training for over two thousand years. Bullets would be just like faster arrows for her.
In a most non-scientific note: I don't know if this will ever be addressed in the films, but in some interpretations of the comic book, Wonder Woman's bracelets were crafted from Zeus' shield, so they have a magical property. And also, in the movie, she is able to deflect/dissolve the shards of metal that Ares sends flying toward her. So, being a goddess, she is probably able to just repel projectiles. The bracelets just give her an interesting way to do it. Personally, I preferred the explanation in original golden age comics, that she was just quick enough and strong enough to do it without magic or special props.
Wonder Woman and Superman together lifted the Spectre, who in the panel itself said he weighed an eternity, infinite mass. Superman also said she is a match for his strength, Wonder Woman said she has never seen the upper limits of her strength.
Hey Kyle / Nerdist! Could you think about this: Can the flash use only his finger (or something like that) To make boiling water? (using friction in water? or something like that?) I am sure you got some cool ideas and some cool math to do (and yes I have seen the other flash video you had made. great stuff! Keep making science fun! Cheers!
He clearly hasn't watched cricket yet if he thinks baseball is boring. To quote a brit' "it's like watching paint dry", and a match can last up to 3 days.
I know this is an old video I'm catching up on a ton, however the science used in this video is if the bullet hit straight on. It's possible to completely redirect shrapnel of a curved edge away from your body using a counter motion. Example hitting a bullet upward of the top of the cuff rather than straight on. Love your videos tho
Could you do a video explaining how strong Diana of the TV version is to do many of her feats such as , stopping a jet fighter by hand or pulling a helicopter out of the air with her lasso? Love your videos btw !
this would actually help explain how she can be witty and even snarky in certain incarnations, as part of her personality a perceived quick witted tongue would be a logical affectation of her bullet blocking power.
So in the first array of movie clips you also see her deflecting bullets that she wasn't originally facing. Meaning she *hears* them, uses the sound to locate which direction their coming from, turns, visually locates the bullet in the air, and reacts to deflect it. And somehow all that happens in around .01s. Even though I don't even know if the sound would have reached her ear in that time.
This effect is called spalling. (Bullet fragmentation upon impacting a hardened surface) Theres rubberized coatings made to catch it. Theyre not perfect but they definitely help. Though hers obviously are metallic on the surface
The part about shrapnel being formed and continuing to travel after she has blocked the bullet is depicted in the movie during the trench-fight, when she blocks some of the bullets and they are shown to hit the ground behind her. It's even in one of the clips you used in this very video. Maybe you're just being thorough, but it's clearly visible in the movie. The fact that she can react that quickly, as you suggested, might explain why in some scenes that is not the case, as she might have been able to redirect the bullet's momentum and force to completely stop a bullet dead in it's tracks upon impact. It might just mean that she has to apply a similar and equal force onto the bullet, which might require more concentration and energy, which is why when she wants to stop a very important bullet, such as say the one that was going to kill her newly acquired love interest, she takes the time to fully stop it so as to minimize any collateral damage, whereas in other instances, such as during the aforementioned trench-fight in the movie, when there is no one else around her, she only deflects the bullet, and doesn't completely stop the bullets, seeing as how it is probably easier.
well i think its also well documented in the comics, that time slows down relative to how WW reacts likened to the flash, so i think she IS just seeing it slow enough to perfectly angle her gauntlets so no one gets hurt.
I think that she would get this calculating ability from the goddess she (Diana) is named after since it's mentioned in one DC comic that she actually gets her name from her aunt (by way of Hippolyta). Which makes sense if the clay she's made out of gets animated by the gods.
Excellent video. Even for this channel! Because the bracers are 'magic' we don't know the properties. Perhaps they interact with the users nervous system, partly controlling where to move your arms to deflect the bullets safely. Sort of akin to a futuristic raspberry pi infused bracer. So she does no calculations at all.
The bracers as stated in the comics, just absorb the energy of the bullets if hit directly in the perfect spot instead of richoeting. they dont shatter as once they hit they dont have enough energy to shatter
Momentum is the derivative of Kinetic Energy with respect to velocity. This just means that momentum is the effective change in Energy based on a change to its current velocity. They are not two different things, and they are completely related.
I think for up close blocks its likely she is mostly reacting to the people holding the guns. The action of aiming a gun and pulling the the trigger is going to take a lot longer than bullet flight time.
(YT brought this up again, and I could have sworn I posted here years ago... but my post isn't coming up or was in a subthread... sooo... here we go...) Using the DCEU Wonder Woman (vs most of the comic book versions or Lynda Carter's version), a missing aspect in your analysis is that Diana channels her inner "divine energy" (which manifests most dramatically when she slams her bracers, or shield or sword, et al -- anything made of the mystical "star metal" on Themiscyra, leftover from earlier mythic ages -- and she creates that radiant repelling/destructive burst) while she's deflecting bullets/similar attacks; that's why her bracers (and sometimes her sword and shield, for instance) have a low-radiant "hot spot" for a couple seconds when/where any impact takes place. When at her full, regular power she doesn't have to worry about shrapnel or ricochets because there *isn't any*. Contrast and compare her lower-powered expressions, pre-awakening her divinity in the finale scene of WW, with her later expressions ("later" in-narratively, such as occurred in BMvSM, and particularly in JL and WW84) : when at a lower power, she doesn't cause the bullets to properly shatter but simply dent on impact (such as when Steve caught the hot bullet which lost energy against her bracer in the alleyway) vs later when the shrapnel shards simply disintegrate into "nothingness" (this was notable in the No Man's Land scene, but particularly so in JL when she deflected bullets while strafing across a line of civilians being shot at be a machine gun -- all the bullets shattered into nothingness). That's why, at least for the DCEU WW, she doesn't have to worry about that when at her regular power. (In WW84, during the White House battle, when she was greatly reduced in power due to plot complications, she *did* get injured from a ricochet from deflecting handgun bullets because she didn't have her divine energy disintegrating the bullets/curbing their momentum.)
i've already compared higher math to magic, in terms of how understandable it is to most people :( so the bracers have magic math in them just for this purpose. Sufficently Advanced covered what happens to anyone standing within 5 feet of the bracer wielder. So when wonder women is fighting near allies, apparently Hera grants her the maths to not send shrapnel into a friend. There is a batman animated short story that covered this as well, and since he could not control the shrapnel, it caused other people to take the bullets instead. So he scrapped the tech and never wore it again
What if the bullets are not fragmenting in any significant way, and are rather having their energy mostly absorbed by the bracers? When she blocked the luger bullet and we see it in the hand, the bullet has flattened. It should have been still to hot to hold but that is beside the point - it did not fragment. Different types of bullets cause different sorts of damage and some rounds being used today are meant to fragment - but those rounds were not being used by the Nazis in WWII. i think it would be very interesting if Wonder Woman in the comics now DID face off against a foe that used frangible ammunition or armor-piercing rounds or any of the various spinning daisy wheel cutter styled rounds - just to see how the bracers would affect them differently.
You say she would have to calculate all of the velocities and trajectories for every bullet, but people catch baseballs all the time and don't think about physics at all when they do it, it's just instinctual. I think she has a neat instinct that allows her to just 'feel' the correct way to block a bullet. This doesn't mean she didn't have to hone the ability, but it's not something she consciously does, it's just a honed skill.
Lead is really soft at ballistic speeds, it basically liquefies on contact with armor plating (Like steel, or Wonder Woman's Bracers). So yeah, those bullets shattering is totally in line with what we see in real life
I recently learned about shrapnel, and you make the same mistake I used to make when you talk about "deadly shrapnels", look it up! Nice video as usual, though!
If she’s reacting to the trajectory from the gun’s position before firing, it gives her some extra time; BUT, we’re also forgetting about how long it physically takes her to move from A to B. She can react to it in .1 seconds, but it doesn’t matter if she can’t physically move her arm into position within that timeframe.
She can't just look at the guns angle. All rifles are zeroed so the bullet drops down to it's target at a certain range. For instance a 300 meter combat zero from an M16 has the bullet at point of aim at 25 meters, it's about 8" high at about at 100 meters and drops back to point of aim at 300 meters. Since a bullet starts to drop the instant it comes out of the barrel your essentially firing it in an arc. It's not like a laser beam. She would need to figure out muzzle velocity, the type of round, ballastic coefficient of the bullet, weight of the bullet etc....that's not accounting for environmental effects such as weather. Or you can just attributes to being fiction and suspend your belief.
The easier explanation is the bracers effectively are energy absorbers reducing the momentum of the round to nearly zero as the round approaches such that there isn't sufficient energy for the round to deform enough to fragment. In short, they absorb a substantial amount of kinetic energy. All we need to do is from the film footage is see how much the pistol round deformed and find the minimum amount of energy required for that round to deform and write off the rest as being absorbed, hence why the round dropped into Steve's hand rather then ricocheting off a few yards away. If the energy absorbing field is large enough around the bracers it would allow the FMJ of a round to deform along with the lead core of the bullet reducing spalling\fragmenting. If you look at the round in Steve's hand, you can see the jacket also deformed along with the lead core, hitting a piece of steel for example the jacket tends to spall off the lead round. I shoot FMJ quite a bit and have shot at steel plates (See hickok45 for an example of a range where you would hit steel targets). If you check the round after it hits a good amount of a FMJ is mia, either spalled off the round or fragmented and mixed in with the lead. The video @ ua-cam.com/video/QfDoQwIAaXg/v-deo.html has some good slow mo of rounds and you can see in some of the non-penetrating rounds where the jacket spalls off the round along with the target debris. TO get the bullet to deform like the one Steve is holding the velocity of the round would have to be reduced to prevent the jacket from stripping off. If it was a copper or steel jacket the jacket would likely have been ripped right off and sent flying all over the damn place.
Hey Kyle, could you and the gang do a breakdown on the fight or flight systems and how they can augment bodily and mental performance? For me, during a few incidences as a kid, it manifested in an altered experience of time. It was that slowed time in which 2-3 seconds ticked by as if it were 15 seconds, within that time my bodily coordination went up in precision, was not faster but reflexes were definitely enhanced for those moments.
Why can you see Wonder Woman inside her invisible jet? NEW mini-ep over on my Insta: instagram.com/sci_phile/ -- KH
Nerdist Happy Thanksgiving. Going to love this video.
Thank you! You too -- KH
What if the isn't invisible? What if its just transparent?
4:15 Shouldn't that be the maximum and not the minimum amount of time?
Nerdist nah it would be kinda weird
*The "Kyle is wrong!" FAQ*
1. Even if the bullets are simply being redirected, and aren't shattering (we do see them shatter though), Diana would still have to be considering the paths of the ricochets in a similar way, which would be VERY hard to do on the fly.
(UPDATING) -- KH
Magic! I don't usually revert to that. But in this case, magic bracers :(
But Diana's bracers DO absorb momentum, you can see that when she fights a superstrong opponent, when she recieves a strong hit and blocks it she barely moves back (and the ground around her suffers only minor damage)
if she is able to see the bullet as they show maybe she positions the braces to block the bullet such that the trajectory is always radial to the cylinder that is her braces, in that case the bullet would just fall off, like it did in the pilot's (forgot his name :P) hand in that alley scene where diana saves him and hence she does not need to calculate trajectories or plot ricochets.
Actually, this is what Superman supposedly did, before he started catching bullets instead of letting them bounce off his chest.
I'm going with my explanation. I.e. if we could almost do it now, wonder woman's people could do it.
The bracers have something like SBCs in them. Single Board Computers. They interact with her nervous system to TELL her where to place her hands to minimize shrapnel.
Such a thing would also be useful when she slams the bracelets together to create a shock wave. How does she know how hard to slam the bracelets together to get a certain blast wave?.SBCs.
Actually in some comics she's bulletproof but I guess people like seeing her block them with her bracelets
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Anyone else disappointed he wasn't suddenly wearing a Wonder Woman constume after the spin?
Hot.
I wish -- KH
Me
Indeed! ummhmmmm!
yes!!!!!
I've always thought Wonder Woman just takes advantage of her round bracers to *deflect* the bullets, controlling and redirecting their trajectory safely. The sparks we see are simply sparks made by friction between the bullet and bracer.
Sparks from metal come from pieces of metal, fragmented so fine, that they ignite in the air. If the bullets weren't breaking apart at all, then there would be no sparks. "Friction" isn't sufficient to explain what we see. -- KH
stil need to calculate that as too deflect a bullet so it doesnt harm anyone around her she still needs to calculate the correct angle to hit the bullet with her bracers either way she still need to be good at physics and math
Jian Ling Lim her braclets absorb energy attacks,and can redirect physical ones
Thanks for replying! It's true, there's probably some disconnect between my idea of sparks and what it's actually like in real life
Anyways I just rewatched a clip of Wonder Woman deflecting the bullets in the movie, and you were right. Wonder Woman does make a noticable effort to deflect the bullets away from herself to form a "safety cone". Some of the fragments definitely went into her face, but we can just give her the benefit of the doubt and attribute that to inexperience.
However, I also noticed that the sparks sort of lose most of their horizontal momentum. In fact, you can see in one of the shots where they don't even move pass Wonder Woman, instead simply falling to her feet. So perhaps she doesn't have to be too worried about how she controls the trajectory of the bullet fragments since they're travelling slowly enough after the block that they won't hurt her?
But that's just speculation, so who knows for sure. Either ways, thanks again for replying. It's awesome when content creators actually take the effort to participate in discussions in the comments!
Jian Ling Lim i noticed that if you consider the abilitly of the bracers to absorb energy attacks from enemies then wouldnt it be possible to absorb the kinetic energy from the bullet and thus actually slowing down the fragment speed just as you said
Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate. Watch this video with your family. Five times. -- KH
5 times? Pshh,what about 500,get all dat knowledge.
Just have it on repeat during Thanksgiving like TNT does A Christmas Story.
thanksgiving was over a month ago
Happy thanksgiving! I'm thankful for that sweet sweet science you just laid down! Here's a good one for ya: with the new Thor movies basically establishing him as just an alien from another world and that Odin specifically says that they are not gods, basically making Thor more like Superman's backstory, the question is who would win Superman or Thor?
Bonus question which god of thunder: Gene Simmons from Kiss or Thor 😂
I like this channel it lets me learn new words so I sound photosynthesis
Getting there. -- KH
Sir lags a lot 😂 a few more episodes will do (nice joke btw)
One of my friends used to make that joke.
She'd also have to be able to move incredibly fast, which means she could punch you and turn your face and head into jelly. She might not even *have* to punch you. Her fist would be moving way faster than sound so the blast from that vortex alone would at least make you shit your pants. You don't want to fight Wonder Woman is what I'm saying.
There's no point fighting her. Remember the scene from WWI where she just flung some evil dude about 20ft?
As an aside, remember where she burst the doors down in JL and was throwing bad guys around like they were rag dolls? No point in antagonizing her if you want to live.
I sure wouldn't mind getting physical with Wonder Woman, but not in a fight.
@@OneEyedJack1970 You know, you aren't required to post every contrivance your brain is capable of conceiving.
I'm surprised you didn't include the scene in Justice League, where she's deflecting shots from a machine gun at a very close range, and protecting multiple people as fast as possible.
Because I have to make these videos a few weeks in advance -- KH
Ah. Well, that explains it.
Some guy named Connor is looking for you. He seems pissed.
Best scene in the movie. Maybe tied with Supes noticing Flash.
Fuck I knew someone said this before me...
Another theory could be that her bracelets do not shatter objects but fully stop them in a molecular level, making the object and its particles lose any momentum without breaking its shape.
Steve Strangelove but we see in the movie that it flattens the bullet from the German luger pistol. So it does affect it's shape but I think it's just the matter of it doesn't allow the bullet to shrapnelize upon impact.
I want to point out that her reaction time you estimated could be greatly reduced if she reads the people aiming the gun and tells where and when they would fire. What is truly amazing is when she turned and watched a bullet move in bullet time. Now that is amazing
Are they though?
From what I can see the bracers have an ellipsoid cross-section, so the area covering the top and bottoms of the forearms (the areas she almost always blocks with) are much flatter and less likely to spall the bullet in a cone around the sides.
In fact we even see it in the movie several times, such as in the alley scene where she blocks the bullet and it falls into Pine's hand, intact apart from being compressed.
I think the real question is why does she need the bracers at all, when her skin appears to be impenetrable anyways? Deflected metal sparks like in the crossing the field scene don't even singe her hair or skin, and she routinely is crushing steel plate armor and exploding church steeples without a mark to show for it.
I'm guessing she'd be much better as a human shield, but that wouldn't make for scenes nearly as dramatic!
Maybe the bracelets move themselves, and she's puppeteered by them when deflecting bullets?
Just because the bullets wouldn't penetrate her skin doesn't necessarily mean they wouldn't still hurt...
this part of the movie made me said "if most of the heroes are this fast, then why do we have the flash"
KaitoTV the flash is faster than WW. He can see the bullets almost frozen in place and has way more time to react, which allows him to grab them or move them. WW can only afford to block
yeah i understand that but the main point is just to not let the bullet hit the innocents, right...then WW can do it effortless...and also the part in JL where the flash was shot in the leg and can't run? they made the flash look dumb
KaitoTV. I agree. His powers are amazing and they made him look stupid.
true, and don't get me wrong, i like most of the flash's part in the movie, but that bullet to his legs part is just so so dumb, and also the part where he literally quicksilver'd on to the wall to push WW's sword
Wonder Woman has stopped the evil flash in his tracks in the comics
Kyle looks surprisingly good with a tiara.
It's his fabulous hair -- makes a tiara/headguard looks like it belongs there... ;)
Talking about Diana's reaction time, I believe it's canon that she has vastly accelerated perception because when she's shot at, we see from her perspective that she's watching the bullets fly at her in slow motion (during the trench scene she has this look of wonder on her face like "did I just do that?" upon realizing she can see them coming)
Because MAGIC !
Wonder Woman is hundreds of years old so she probably had the time to study lots and lots of physics🤔
Mr. Awesome Animations study is one thing, but calculate everything on site, in every situation, fast enough, is far another.
Instead do the math, she probably have a superior ballistic sense, allowing her limbic system "feel" the trajectory of a shard much before the rest of the brain figure out anything.
Well, daughter of Ares instead Heracles, I suppose...
How would she have learned about bullets, though?
Captain America actually states in his comic that the reason he's able to calculate precisely and on the fly where and at what velocity to throw his shield so as to rebound it back to himself is because he can think faster than a normal human!
(Diana is 5,000 years old in the DCEU continuity, being conceived by Hippolyta via Zeus not long after he established the island behind the powerful enchantment; in the Lynda Carter version, she would be approx. 2,572 in 2022; in the comics her age varies from often being only as old as she actually appears -- in her 20s or 30s, being created only a couple/few decades ago via Hippolyta and Aphrodite's/other goddesses' blessings -- to approximately 100 for the original golden-era/Earth-2 WW who was only in her early 20s when she arrived in Patriarch's World in late 1941 and would be 100-110 in her personal timeline "presently", but looking like she's only in her 60s due to aging slower than humans do, but still aging as she gave up her immortality when she left the island and even as a goddess, which was the original WW's end-run, lost in time (which is the currently undefined fate for the original WW) she appears older.)
@@CopernicoTube For the DCEU WW, when at her normal power levels, she doesn't have to worry about ricochets/shrapnel as her divine energy causes the bullets to disintegrate into nothingness. (Only in her reduced power levels do the bullets not disintegrate and potentially pose a danger from collateral deflection, such as occurred in WW84 at the White House battle.) For the comics, where WW is most often more powerful than in the DCEU movies, she's actually much faster than in the DCEU and can/does deflect bullets at "x" angles so as not to harm others. (Several instances demonstrating this physical/mental speed include when she was tested by the military when she first arrived in Patriarch's World in the Post Crisis era, deflecting simultaneous machinegun fire from three soldiers and being fast enough to charge them while being shot at and disarming them in the hundredth of a second between bullet-discharges for the three machine guns; and later in the story "Gods and Goddesses" she notes to herself, while deflecting multiple machine gun attacks, that the attackers spreading a wider arc in front of her makes it trickier to direct the ricochets so that they don't harm anyone.)
Well, we all know she's basically female Superman, including super speed along side her inhuman reaction time. So it's possible that she's not just "blocking" bullets, but actually "redirecting" them. It may be that she is using her super speed along with the curve of her bracers to lightly "push" the bullets in a harmless direction.
Yes, I vote for your explanation. We have seen flash do that, and quick silver in the xmen movies.
@@nosuchthing8 Although it doesn't explain why she didn't just blitz the bad guy in that one scene. She could have blocked all the bullets and had him by the throat before he turned a single degree.
@@Kazuma11290 agree 100%. It was odd. Maybe she was overwhelmed from blocking all those bullets at such close range. She might have been working close to failure.
@@nosuchthing8 Or she was using live hostages and gunman as practice. I can sorta see an early WW doing that.
that Wonder Woman Spin was EVERYTHING!! here's some Wonder Woman (ala Lynda Carter) trivia: in all 3 seasons of Ms. Carter's 70's W.W. tv show, the Wonder Spin (which she came up with btw) was in reference to America and the American flag. If u notice that when she spun, the burst of light seen by the audience was, in fact, red, white & blue !! Lynda Carter is & will always be Wonder Woman in my world 💫💥🌟 !!
She got Ultra Instinct, thinking is for the weak!
Kalec lol thats what i was thinking
Critique of cartoon analysis is for the weak!!
I'm pretty sure you just implied Kyle and everyone who watches this show is weak.
Justin Thompson nope if you wanna analyze a cartoon its cool, that's why I'm here. But to criticize someone's opinion about fake stuff is weak
I meant to address Kalec.
actually she doesnt need to worry about shrapnel because wonder woman is bulletproof =/
proof : static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111127507/5144108-6278333764-Bulle.jpg
and her superpower is great eyesight hah!
Jacques Markarian , Thanks for your comment and link. Thanks. Wow. Thumbs up.
if she's bulletproof... why block at all?
patricio torre bulletproof means that the projectile cant penetrate into her body. But it can do damage that will eventually fatigue her.
Also she ricochets the bullets back to enemies.
Jacques Markarian where did you got it from
RitviK RainA just google wonder woman bulletproof and search images
I always want to know how they edit these videos. Like every time something moves but then Kyle interacts with it as if it's right where he left it on the board is really neat
*SPOILER ALERT QUESTION*
In Justice League, Diana is able to block every single bullet from an automatic rifle.
How fast does she have to move to block every single one?
3:05 HAS to be the best part lmao
Or, it's all subconscious, like the way Cyclops of the X-Men can visualize the trajectories of his optic force beams, bouncing them off of walls and vehicles.
LIKE SPEED RACER JUNIOR?!
I'm not sure if it's been addressed in the movies yet - I'm not about to torture myself with Superman vs Batman again to check and I've not yet seen Justice League - but in the comics, Wonder Woman is actually bulletproof. She doesn't actually NEED to block the bullets with her bracers (there's actually a funny parody comic floating around where she explains to Superman why she does anyway....jiggle jiggle). That easily explains the shrapnel issue for all except for the one bullet block, and that one is easily explained by the fact that the bullet, in that case, deformed rather than shattering, which is not terribly unrealistic for a copper jacketed round of that caliber.
What if the bracers are made from some momentum absorption metal, like vibranium
This guy got a point
José Villa I was about to say the same thing. You beat me to it.
José Villa. Even if they were, what that means still isn't all that great. She would still have to block the bullets directly because not all of the energy is directed at the cuffs and therefore not all the energy can be absorbed by the cuffs.
José Villa it also reflects so it depends like smart material
They are a construct of magic, which is what makes them bulletproof, so it is highly plausible.
From what it seems like, it seems like as Diana blocks the bullet she is also moving her arms to redirect the shrapnel
So Steppenwolf from the Justice League movie is able to grab a missile, inspect it, and let it go in the other direction. Is this simply a stylistic choice on behalf of the production team or is this feasibly possible because science?
brytenow the hulk did it too in that movie.
Repins Watson hulk's not in justice league....
Wonder Woman has had numerous reboots and continuities. In some of them, her bracelets/gauntlets were made of the fantasy metals "Feminum" or "Amazonium", both of which could have some fantasy properties that spit in the face of the physics.
In another continuity, they were made of the melted down metal of Athen'a Aegis and retained the enchantments of the Olympian gods - so, yeah, because maaaaaagic!
Linda Carter rules
I love your logistic w this theme !! Thank you for doing this video!
Good thing one of her patron goddesses is Athena, Greek goddess of battle.
Ken Hallaron if only Athena were the Greek god of battle instead of wisdom
greekgodsandgoddesses.net/goddesses/athena/
"Athena, also referred to as Athene, is a very important goddess of many things. She is goddess of wisdom, courage, inspiration, civilization, law and justice, *strategic warfare*, mathematics, strength, *strategy*, the arts, crafts, and skill."
Yeah, Athena was always depicted as wearing armor, and was actually more associated with warfare than wisdom in Greek literature. She was wise, but she used her wisdom to either advise or deceive soldiers to turn battles towards the gods' will. At least that's how the illiad depicted her (at least the portion I read in highschool. Lol)
U know athena disliked-ish the amazons because ares
I mean Wonder Woman is also extremely durable almost as sturdy as Superman and she’s stated in the comics that she only blocks them because they sting a bit
Your hair is way nicer than hers
Finally someone said it -- KH
Agreed, even nicer than Thor's.
Whoa Josh, let's not get ahead of ourselves!
No joke.
Josh Lefelhocz he's probably related to thor
Had a great time at StarBase Indy with Kyle Hill’s panel, can’t wait for your video to be made and posted, beyond interesting man!
Please do a video about symbiotic titan. I want to know the sience behind it.
Shake it, bake it!
She never just holds her arms still when she blocks shots. She is always swinging them in arcs, which I think backs the "ballistics shadow" idea
Or, its magic, because she is a demigod?
I think you can guess what explanation I prefer -- KH
jedisalamander gaming 'Magic is a field of science that just hasn't been explored.'
jedisalamander gaming the braclets are made by the goddess Aphrodite to be indestructible and could absorb any impact damage.
The show is called Because Science not Because Magic
This show is called "BECAUSE SCIENCE" for a reason.
No problem, Kyle. I love hearing you talk science, bro.
Or it’s magic
Or what I said and what the show is about -- KH
Didn't you read the word SCIENCE?! DUMBASS!
Yikes! I Wonder what is wrong with is wrong with that Woman. Certainly nothing magical going on here, sounds like more of a science issue.
The show is called "Because Science", not "Because Magic". It's about figuring out what it would take for these fictional things to be possible with our own laws of physics.
Yes we all know. Yes it’s in the name. It’s the reason we watch the show. Because science. But....at times when the science seems...eh lacking...it’s out duty as fans to rouse Kyle with a little friendly jeering. And it worked bc he obviously read the comment. And if you read my comment on his Instagram video about wonder woman you all would make the connection. But you guys are only half fans. You don’t make full connections. So you’re bad scientists too.
Finally! I just recently discovered this show and have watched fifty or so of the videos, and I finally got to the one where he thanks me by name! This is James, saying you are welcome Kyle.:-) keep up the good work, I love this show!
You should use the clip from the justice league where she blocked an entire clip of bullets from a fully automatic AR with the distance of about 10 ft.
Wendell Magulud
It's called a magazine, not a clip
I think the filmmakers might have thought of this. Most of the times you see her block bullets in the movie *she swipes across its path* right as it reaches her. So she's not just blocking it, she's adding angular momentum to redirect it. I hadn't thought of that before watching this, but I can totally see that being a conscious choice by the director/fight choreographer.
Still waiting for Kyle to say thanks for watching Josh
Memes and Hearthstone I don't think my chances are very good
Why do I see you everywhere?
creeped out that he said my name
Say Anthony the end,i will cry. Love the show i have learned so much. Because Science .
And here's Thor explaining how Wonder Woman kicked his ass
The answer is because Screwattack sucks at research and made a lot of assumptions.
+Don't Censor Wonder Woman is on par with Superman, though. Are you telling me Thor is on par with, or stronger than, a guy that is LITERALLY infinitely strong?
Superman is a bit stronger than Wonder woman and Superman is not infinitely strong.
Brian L Thor beat hulk only about as much as Hulk beat Thor. These two are practically on par (assuming Hulk isn't Planetbuster levels of angry, and as long as Thor has Mjölnir). Diana is on par with Superman, who is infinitely powerful.
You can't really use a video that is pretty much fan fiction to prove your point about a comic book character.
You would have to cite something from the comics.
Only canon material should be used.
It's certainly amazing! But highly likely that she can figure out the precise block she needs to do intuitively. She's a warrior trained for.... however many centuries. NBA players don't run the numbers on the ballistic trajectory of their 3 point shot, they just make the shot. Type 1 vs Type 2 thinking. I actually think it's more amazing that she's so good at blocking the bullets that she can do it that way.
Big fan, LOVE the series Kyle.
Kyle, while I agree with your conclusion, I feel you are missing something very important. In this video you have not factored in the unique properties of her bracers. There ability to absorbed just about any impact and then release it. Like in the scene where the bracers take a direct hit from her aunt and then expels what looks like the same amount of force, knocking down several of the amazons. They can also absorb lightning and then direct at an enemy in the form of a blast.
Basically, vibranium.
I disagree. If this we the case, the bullets would hit the bracers and drop, from any angle. We don't see that happen in the film. Although I agree that the bracers appear to store some kind of energy (heat?). This is always the hard part with these kinds of analyses -- choosing what to considering and what to ignore. But my goal is first and foremost to explain something interesting. I hope I did that. -- KH
John Lemus. Why do Sparks come off if the bracers are absorbing energy??? And too absorb 100% of the energy she has to perfectly block the bullets, which she doesn't do sometimes. There should be shrapnel.
You know I love your videos man. They are the best. I think to get a better picture one has to slow the sequences down quite a bit. There is a scene where she blocks a bullet shot at close range and it falls down and Steve catches it in his hands. There are scenes where if you slow the footage down or pause it, you can see the bullet shrapnel flying off in different directions.
I thought Wonder Woman's bracers operated similarly to cap's shield, absorbing force. Thus her ability to withstand any force with her bracers and block things like magic. Whenever she blocks anything the energy is partially released in the visible spectrum, which is where the "sparks" come from and why other forces create light or "sparks" when they hit her bracers.
So who else was hoping Kyle would be wearing a Wonder Woman costume after spinning?
I love this series. It's like "Physics For Dummies" but told through a nerdy perspective so people like me (nerds) can understand it better. I've learned a lot about how certain things actually work just by watching this series alone.
*I always thought Diana was bulletproof regardless of bracelets or not*
Wonder Woman's indestructible bracers are absorbing some of that Kinetic Energy; those shrapnel pieces aren't continuing on with the force they would if they were hitting, say, a steel pipe. She's just so Wonderful.
one of the things that isn't calculated in this is the fact that wonder woman never seen a bullet before during the movie so being able to have knowledge of bullets and ballistics in general it's... not really possible so my personal thought on the matter is she's making the bullet skim off the side of her bracers to change the course of the bullet to a more... safe? direction. that is my thought on that matter here, not that shes super smart because she don't know shit about the modern life in that time frame in the movie.
Isn't she familiar with arrows and such?
Yes she has. During the battle of Themascera she literally watches one go right past her face and hit her friend. The movie even takes the time to show you how she can percive the bullets entire journey from the barrel to her friend. Thats how she learned about bullets. She never blocked any during the battle...but afterward she did.
A reaction time of 1/10th a second is correlated with an IQ of 193, batman registers at 192, but is specifically trained to perform a certain percentage beyond his base specs so his reaction time is less than 1/10th of a second and his ability to visualize things in real-time is on par with Captain America's, meaning he can predict and avoid the trajectory of bullets in a similar way to Captain America(which he trains every Robin to emulate, allowing them to doge bullets as evidenced in the film Under The Read Hood).
I dont think she has to calculate everything, i mean, when you Jump you dont calculate how much strenght you need to Jump to a certain height, you just do it
Not *CONSCIOUSLY*, but yes, your brain does have to calculate how to do that. The process of jumping involves the movement of almost every muscle in your legs and several others up through your lower body, and for higher jumps, your upper body and arms come into it as well. Then you have a series of further actions required in order to control the landing once gravity gets in the way of your attempt to fly. You don't directly and with full awareness think through all those muscle contractions and extensions but your brain does have to do a lot of calculations. Even just walking without falling over is a complex process that takes many months to learn on a basic level, and years more to become fluent enough with that you no longer have to spend conscious effort to keep yourself taking each step.
blivvy Not *CONCIOUSLY*
what you Said is right, the process of Jumpimg os complex, but You're not a genious because of it
It's actually quite interesting when you stop and think how much information your brain has to process to perform simple tasks. No, it doesn't make you a genius. but being able to precisely control all the muscles needed to position a curved bracer in a spot where it'll deflect bullet fragments as accurately as Wonder Woman does? That would be much more complex. If someone could do that by pure instinct, I think that would be an even more impressive feat than being able to think it through consciously.
Like how goalies can catch balls; just better.
At the “thanks for watching, James” I spit out my drink and shouted “wtf” before registering that you were not in fact referring to this particular James
How do you make these videos
I write, research, and script everything myself; I have a camera person, and a fantastic editor. -- KH
Nerdist but how do you do the writings on the "screen" do you pretend to write or have a very clear glass...?
481morda my guess is that he is writing on a pane of glass, and the footage is flipped afterwards so he can write normally and the viewer doesn't have to read backwards.
Some effects and animation is obviously done in post as well (anytime anything moves around), but isolating the drawings from a plain black background is relatively simple
Okay so I read the Wonder Woman Rebirth Year One comic two days ago and during the games to choose Themyscira's champion, it came down to three women and the last test was to block a bullet from just outside point-blank range. The first got straight-up shot (it's okay though since they're immortal), but the second woman's bracers actually made contact with her bullet but then it ricocheted off and shot her in the stomach.
If you think those simple scenes of her blocking bullet at a time, go see Justice League...actually don't, just find the scene where she blocks like 100 bullets in a matter of seconds to save people from a bank robbery. *Trust me this is not a spoiler* just a random scene, that was the only highlight of the movie imo.
No more than 30 rounds in a standard AR mag.
In the movie from the 70's, she do a stage demonstration. An old grandma come on stage, say that she want to use her own weapon instead of the proposed revolver, take out a Thompson SMG, and fire at Wonder Woman from about 5m (less than half the stage width) at full automatic. The aim is anything but steady and she fire the whole magazine. Wonder Woman need to intercept all bullets, even those that would have missed her, to protect the stage crew behind her.
Maybe part of her skill to deflect bullets could also be some of the borrowed powers of the flash where she can speed up and everything else seems slower to her. The scene where the bullet shot from a soldier on the beach was slowed down and you could see her following the flight of the bullet as it went past her. I know this was covered in another of Kyle Hills videos but it could be applied to this as well.
Yea but how did a woman that's been on an island where ballistics don't exist so how would she learn how to counteract them
DR METROPURSUIT she learned it when the Germans invaded on the fly and she knows her bracers could take them because of the blast she performed with them. Also she did learn ballistics prior to that. Bow and arrow training she just learned more when the Germans invaded. The woman speaks and reads 37 languages including sumarian which is believed to be rare and she knew about reproduction before she met Steve Trevor. She has a lot of knowledge.
We saw her observe a bullet in flight for the first time when the Amazonian behind her was hit in the abdomen. That gave her all she needed to know. Even though she is doing these intense calculations she may not be doing them consciously. Does a batter in baseball consciously calculate the trajectory of a baseball they swing at? No, their brain does a rough calculation enough to make a guess at the speed of their reaction time. With her increased reaction time her brain has much much more time to make that calculation. Not to mention its a comparably simpler calculation than hitting a baseball as the bullet is traveling in a more or less straight line (baseballs often move in surprisingly rediculous trajectories) and at a much slower speed relative to her reaction time.
Ballistics exist on the island. Arrows & spears/javelins are ballistic weapons. Not only is she superpowered being the offspring of A God but she has been training for over two thousand years. Bullets would be just like faster arrows for her.
In a most non-scientific note: I don't know if this will ever be addressed in the films, but in some interpretations of the comic book, Wonder Woman's bracelets were crafted from Zeus' shield, so they have a magical property. And also, in the movie, she is able to deflect/dissolve the shards of metal that Ares sends flying toward her. So, being a goddess, she is probably able to just repel projectiles. The bracelets just give her an interesting way to do it. Personally, I preferred the explanation in original golden age comics, that she was just quick enough and strong enough to do it without magic or special props.
Would Diana be stronger than Steve Rogers
Nathan Flatt thousands of times
Wonder Woman and Superman together lifted the Spectre, who in the panel itself said he weighed an eternity, infinite mass. Superman also said she is a match for his strength, Wonder Woman said she has never seen the upper limits of her strength.
Nathan Flatt yes, by a considerable amount, depending on which version of wonder woman I’d say 200-1000x more then Steve.
Probably, but sadly DC characters aren't listed on the MC charts of relative powers
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Hey Kyle / Nerdist! Could you think about this: Can the flash use only his finger (or something like that) To make boiling water? (using friction in water? or something like that?) I am sure you got some cool ideas and some cool math to do (and yes I have seen the other flash video you had made. great stuff! Keep making science fun! Cheers!
He clearly hasn't watched cricket yet if he thinks baseball is boring. To quote a brit' "it's like watching paint dry", and a match can last up to 3 days.
stephan cooper The best thing about baseball is watching game live. This guy is a douche and needs a haircut.
Five days, actually.
I've seen that the record was about 9 days.
I know this is an old video I'm catching up on a ton, however the science used in this video is if the bullet hit straight on. It's possible to completely redirect shrapnel of a curved edge away from your body using a counter motion. Example hitting a bullet upward of the top of the cuff rather than straight on. Love your videos tho
Hey man, chill. It's just a movie.
artfx9 this is so not the point
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you must be new to the channel
Marc-Olivier Ouellet no
Hey man, chill. It's just a UA-cam video.
"Thanks for watching James" I felt a personal connection.
Could you do a video explaining how strong Diana of the TV version is to do many of her feats such as , stopping a jet fighter by hand or pulling a helicopter out of the air with her lasso? Love your videos btw !
this would actually help explain how she can be witty and even snarky in certain incarnations, as part of her personality a perceived quick witted tongue would be a logical affectation of her bullet blocking power.
So in the first array of movie clips you also see her deflecting bullets that she wasn't originally facing. Meaning she *hears* them, uses the sound to locate which direction their coming from, turns, visually locates the bullet in the air, and reacts to deflect it. And somehow all that happens in around .01s. Even though I don't even know if the sound would have reached her ear in that time.
This effect is called spalling. (Bullet fragmentation upon impacting a hardened surface)
Theres rubberized coatings made to catch it. Theyre not perfect but they definitely help. Though hers obviously are metallic on the surface
it took you this long?? glad you finally covered this, told you there was more to this
The part about shrapnel being formed and continuing to travel after she has blocked the bullet is depicted in the movie during the trench-fight, when she blocks some of the bullets and they are shown to hit the ground behind her. It's even in one of the clips you used in this very video.
Maybe you're just being thorough, but it's clearly visible in the movie. The fact that she can react that quickly, as you suggested, might explain why in some scenes that is not the case, as she might have been able to redirect the bullet's momentum and force to completely stop a bullet dead in it's tracks upon impact. It might just mean that she has to apply a similar and equal force onto the bullet, which might require more concentration and energy, which is why when she wants to stop a very important bullet, such as say the one that was going to kill her newly acquired love interest, she takes the time to fully stop it so as to minimize any collateral damage, whereas in other instances, such as during the aforementioned trench-fight in the movie, when there is no one else around her, she only deflects the bullet, and doesn't completely stop the bullets, seeing as how it is probably easier.
well i think its also well documented in the comics, that time slows down relative to how WW reacts likened to the flash, so i think she IS just seeing it slow enough to perfectly angle her gauntlets so no one gets hurt.
I think that she would get this calculating ability from the goddess she (Diana) is named after since it's mentioned in one DC comic that she actually gets her name from her aunt (by way of Hippolyta). Which makes sense if the clay she's made out of gets animated by the gods.
Love the way you said, "...around your nips," at the end.
Excellent video. Even for this channel! Because the bracers are 'magic' we don't know the properties. Perhaps they interact with the users nervous system, partly controlling where to move your arms to deflect the bullets safely. Sort of akin to a futuristic raspberry pi infused bracer. So she does no calculations at all.
The bracers as stated in the comics, just absorb the energy of the bullets if hit directly in the perfect spot instead of richoeting. they dont shatter as once they hit they dont have enough energy to shatter
Momentum is the derivative of Kinetic Energy with respect to velocity.
This just means that momentum is the effective change in Energy based on a change to its current velocity.
They are not two different things, and they are completely related.
I think for up close blocks its likely she is mostly reacting to the people holding the guns. The action of aiming a gun and pulling the the trigger is going to take a lot longer than bullet flight time.
(YT brought this up again, and I could have sworn I posted here years ago... but my post isn't coming up or was in a subthread... sooo... here we go...) Using the DCEU Wonder Woman (vs most of the comic book versions or Lynda Carter's version), a missing aspect in your analysis is that Diana channels her inner "divine energy" (which manifests most dramatically when she slams her bracers, or shield or sword, et al -- anything made of the mystical "star metal" on Themiscyra, leftover from earlier mythic ages -- and she creates that radiant repelling/destructive burst) while she's deflecting bullets/similar attacks; that's why her bracers (and sometimes her sword and shield, for instance) have a low-radiant "hot spot" for a couple seconds when/where any impact takes place. When at her full, regular power she doesn't have to worry about shrapnel or ricochets because there *isn't any*. Contrast and compare her lower-powered expressions, pre-awakening her divinity in the finale scene of WW, with her later expressions ("later" in-narratively, such as occurred in BMvSM, and particularly in JL and WW84) : when at a lower power, she doesn't cause the bullets to properly shatter but simply dent on impact (such as when Steve caught the hot bullet which lost energy against her bracer in the alleyway) vs later when the shrapnel shards simply disintegrate into "nothingness" (this was notable in the No Man's Land scene, but particularly so in JL when she deflected bullets while strafing across a line of civilians being shot at be a machine gun -- all the bullets shattered into nothingness).
That's why, at least for the DCEU WW, she doesn't have to worry about that when at her regular power. (In WW84, during the White House battle, when she was greatly reduced in power due to plot complications, she *did* get injured from a ricochet from deflecting handgun bullets because she didn't have her divine energy disintegrating the bullets/curbing their momentum.)
I like that you call out random names, just for the sake of randomness for those few guys! :D
i've already compared higher math to magic, in terms of how understandable it is to most people :( so the bracers have magic math in them just for this purpose.
Sufficently Advanced covered what happens to anyone standing within 5 feet of the bracer wielder. So when wonder women is fighting near allies, apparently Hera grants her the maths to not send shrapnel into a friend.
There is a batman animated short story that covered this as well, and since he could not control the shrapnel, it caused other people to take the bullets instead. So he scrapped the tech and never wore it again
3:11 so accurate lol, if you go to the stadium baseball is more boring hahaha
This is so cool!! I LOVE Wonder Woman!
You know, I think that "superhero super-nerd boss lady" might just be the best title you could ever give someone.
What if the bullets are not fragmenting in any significant way, and are rather having their energy mostly absorbed by the bracers? When she blocked the luger bullet and we see it in the hand, the bullet has flattened. It should have been still to hot to hold but that is beside the point - it did not fragment. Different types of bullets cause different sorts of damage and some rounds being used today are meant to fragment - but those rounds were not being used by the Nazis in WWII.
i think it would be very interesting if Wonder Woman in the comics now DID face off against a foe that used frangible ammunition or armor-piercing rounds or any of the various spinning daisy wheel cutter styled rounds - just to see how the bracers would affect them differently.
You say she would have to calculate all of the velocities and trajectories for every bullet, but people catch baseballs all the time and don't think about physics at all when they do it, it's just instinctual. I think she has a neat instinct that allows her to just 'feel' the correct way to block a bullet. This doesn't mean she didn't have to hone the ability, but it's not something she consciously does, it's just a honed skill.
Lead is really soft at ballistic speeds, it basically liquefies on contact with armor plating (Like steel, or Wonder Woman's Bracers). So yeah, those bullets shattering is totally in line with what we see in real life
I recently learned about shrapnel, and you make the same mistake I used to make when you talk about "deadly shrapnels", look it up! Nice video as usual, though!
good for you James
Here's a Christmas episode idea. How strong is the Grinch?
Zach Alexander nice.
I’m crushing so badly on Kyle. Oh God...
If she’s reacting to the trajectory from the gun’s position before firing, it gives her some extra time; BUT, we’re also forgetting about how long it physically takes her to move from A to B. She can react to it in .1 seconds, but it doesn’t matter if she can’t physically move her arm into position within that timeframe.
She can't just look at the guns angle. All rifles are zeroed so the bullet drops down to it's target at a certain range. For instance a 300 meter combat zero from an M16 has the bullet at point of aim at 25 meters, it's about 8" high at about at 100 meters and drops back to point of aim at 300 meters. Since a bullet starts to drop the instant it comes out of the barrel your essentially firing it in an arc. It's not like a laser beam. She would need to figure out muzzle velocity, the type of round, ballastic coefficient of the bullet, weight of the bullet etc....that's not accounting for environmental effects such as weather. Or you can just attributes to being fiction and suspend your belief.
The easier explanation is the bracers effectively are energy absorbers reducing the momentum of the round to nearly zero as the round approaches such that there isn't sufficient energy for the round to deform enough to fragment. In short, they absorb a substantial amount of kinetic energy. All we need to do is from the film footage is see how much the pistol round deformed and find the minimum amount of energy required for that round to deform and write off the rest as being absorbed, hence why the round dropped into Steve's hand rather then ricocheting off a few yards away. If the energy absorbing field is large enough around the bracers it would allow the FMJ of a round to deform along with the lead core of the bullet reducing spalling\fragmenting. If you look at the round in Steve's hand, you can see the jacket also deformed along with the lead core, hitting a piece of steel for example the jacket tends to spall off the lead round. I shoot FMJ quite a bit and have shot at steel plates (See hickok45 for an example of a range where you would hit steel targets). If you check the round after it hits a good amount of a FMJ is mia, either spalled off the round or fragmented and mixed in with the lead. The video @ ua-cam.com/video/QfDoQwIAaXg/v-deo.html has some good slow mo of rounds and you can see in some of the non-penetrating rounds where the jacket spalls off the round along with the target debris. TO get the bullet to deform like the one Steve is holding the velocity of the round would have to be reduced to prevent the jacket from stripping off. If it was a copper or steel jacket the jacket would likely have been ripped right off and sent flying all over the damn place.
I had an exam on momentum TODA! What a nice coincidence.
Hey Kyle, could you and the gang do a breakdown on the fight or flight systems and how they can augment bodily and mental performance? For me, during a few incidences as a kid, it manifested in an altered experience of time. It was that slowed time in which 2-3 seconds ticked by as if it were 15 seconds, within that time my bodily coordination went up in precision, was not faster but reflexes were definitely enhanced for those moments.