Would Wolverine Be the Ultimate Body Builder? (Because Science w/ Kyle Hill)

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  • @Nerdist
    @Nerdist  6 років тому +561

    *The "Kyle is wrong!" FAQ*
    1. I am looking into whether or not regeneration itself leads to bigger muscles, and therefore whether or not Wolverine could benefit from that. The research I found indicates that not only is regeneration (via satellite cells) not always necessary for hypertrophy, making new/more muscle cells is not how muscles get bigger. HOWEVER, I do see the argument that Wolverine would be able to recover from hard workouts faster. This could make a better body builder sure, but that also assumes he'd be working out all the time to take advantage of the shortened recovery period, and that's not really what I was getting at. But fair enough.
    (UPDATING) -- KH

    • @Felenari
      @Felenari 6 років тому +11

      Nerdist what about wolverines digestive track? (sorry English isn't my first language so apologies for grammar/spelling) Say, grievous stomach wound or poison. How would he recover from continuous stomach acid being produced as he heals? Better yet, can wolverine eat literally anything because of this? I'm no chemist but I'm sure glass wouldn't dissolve and just slice its way out either way but say the world's strongest poison? Because science pretty Plz? Good watch. Thanks.
      P.s. Muskwatch shirt Plz?

    • @matybyers4597
      @matybyers4597 6 років тому +24

      He could do a 1 rep max of an exercise all day long. That would potentially give him and advantage.

    • @sadanyagci
      @sadanyagci 6 років тому +4

      Your tips at the end are quite simplified. Each person has individual needs that vary considerably on a moment-to-moment basis. I find it's more advantageous to use some aspects of the system that creates nutritional deficiency cravings to provide constant nutritional feedback to fill those needs, rather than constantly giving yourself stable or random mixtures of nutrients a few times a day. That way, the body can modify intake based on need, increasing during muscle recovery, for example, with the added bonus of preventing the associated muscle soreness.
      I find it interesting that endurance training causes more damage. Thank you for that bit of information. It's weird to me because it causes much less of an increase in intake compared to hypertrophy training.

    • @faithrider94
      @faithrider94 6 років тому +9

      What about his heavy adamantium skeleton? Would that be considered constantly working out?

    • @philverhey7335
      @philverhey7335 6 років тому +12

      *Grammatical error* he doesn't have to _carry around a very heavy adamantium skeleton his entire life_ , he has to *carry around a very heavy adamantium skeleton the REST of his life* .. he wasn't born with it.

  • @UtaNngkrngDpanKompi
    @UtaNngkrngDpanKompi 6 років тому +748

    Huge Jacked Man...

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  6 років тому +85

      IF THE BAR AIN'T BENDIN' YOU JUST PRETENDIN' -- Hugh Jackman during Logan training. -- KH

    • @ManusDei23
      @ManusDei23 6 років тому +7

      *slow clap*

    • @tichrondus
      @tichrondus 6 років тому +6

      I came here for this.

    • @SideBurn12
      @SideBurn12 6 років тому +8

      Actually a good pun 😂

    • @michaelkantner6420
      @michaelkantner6420 5 років тому +1

      Yup, caught that too! :)

  • @bronsolo6941
    @bronsolo6941 6 років тому +187

    "Huge Jacked man" I was hoping that pun would show up

  • @MatterBeamTSF
    @MatterBeamTSF 6 років тому +615

    Imagine if every time Wolverine takes grievous damage to his muscles, he regenerates them... but they come back as in their tiny, original form.

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  6 років тому +124

      They feasibly wouldn't regenerate with cells of the same hypertrophic diamter, I agree MB! -- KH

    • @tracythomas4700
      @tracythomas4700 6 років тому +106

      Like the incident in the deadpool film where his hand had to grow back from the small hand?

    • @Imurai
      @Imurai 6 років тому +30

      That is how amphibians grow their limbs back AFIK.

    • @erbgorre
      @erbgorre 6 років тому +32

      as the esteemed rick sanchez would say, we are learning something about muscle memory here -.-
      jokes aside tho, that has always been a legitimate question about the regenerative powers of both wolverine and deadpool. how exactly does the body know what to grow back? and how? seeing how in us mammals, not every cell still caries the blueprint for any other type of cell. their mutations on the DNA level must have somehow turned all of their cells into potential stem cells again, ready to de- and then redifferentiate as needed.

    • @miguelalejandroephiramasth2405
      @miguelalejandroephiramasth2405 6 років тому +14

      Mmm... altought that's how it should work, the writers of the comics could gave "weird" explanations to justify these... phenomena?
      Don't they?

  • @Nerdist
    @Nerdist  6 років тому +13

    I really did cut myself with those damn things (almost immediately). Punctured right between my fingers -- I could see inside my hand a bit. It hurt, every time. Which was once. Thanks for watching! -- KH

  • @gigaatom
    @gigaatom 6 років тому +252

    After all that damage you’d think he’d be wolver-lean

  • @JaxBlade
    @JaxBlade 8 місяців тому +3

    I was curious about this topic & this was brilliantly put, def inspired me for a topic I wanna talk about to. Awesome work

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 Місяць тому

      Would you say he would make the ultimate strong person? like he also has a lot of great leverages

  • @matybyers4597
    @matybyers4597 6 років тому +72

    I assume if Wolverine were working out, he would be able to overload on every exercise without ever really tiring. His ATP reproduction would be off the charts! Also, every time he would be inducing an autophagic response (like constantly) he would also suppress myostatin while increasing HGH, and Testosterone. I'd think not only would this make him "jacked" like a Belgian Blue Bull, but also continuously getting stronger. Also, such a hormonal response might also help suppress cortisol, which would also potentially make him pretty mello as well as buff?

    • @TheNativeEngine
      @TheNativeEngine 6 років тому +1

      Maty Byers suppress cortisol? That's the most surly character I've ever seen! Lol.

    • @Thurgor_Supreme
      @Thurgor_Supreme 6 років тому +11

      There's ten times more science in your paragraph than this entire episode. Kyle epicly failed on this one...

    • @Darkzen24
      @Darkzen24 6 років тому +1

      Have you seen what myostatin blockers do to animals in testing? Wolverine wouldn't have to even work out to be huge and if he could boost his testosterone, he wouldn't really need to train much either (outside of his already active lifestyle). As for strength, well he would eventually reach a limit, before the shearing force would tear muscle from bone... the injury, while it could heal rapidly, would still cause structural damage... stopping him from generating any further force and actually cause him to lose significant strength immediately. Just saying.

    • @JaelinBezel
      @JaelinBezel 6 років тому +5

      Maty Byers Didn't he spend a few years as a lumberjack? Not to mention how many times he must have gone through basic training having participated in every major war since the late 1800s.

    • @Darkzen24
      @Darkzen24 6 років тому +1

      @MR KSAV it happens, look up avulsion fractures.

  • @sebastianalegre7148
    @sebastianalegre7148 6 років тому +31

    Kyle, the onomatopoeia isn't misleading. It's just that adamantium vibrates at a different frequency than the metal your blades are made of.

    • @sebastianalegre7148
      @sebastianalegre7148 6 років тому +3

      Also, I have to add, in the graph you did with Arnold and the endurance runner, the y-intercept should be closer to zero (though not necessarily 0). This makes the relationship polynomial instead of linear, which I think would've been a nice detail.

    • @JakkFrost1
      @JakkFrost1 6 років тому +1

      Well not only that, snikt is not the sound they make when they clang together, it's the sound they make when they're extended or retracted, sliding into whatever socket they have inside his arm.

  • @ramoncruz1007
    @ramoncruz1007 6 років тому +72

    As a bro and a nerd, I loved this video, buuuuuuut I gotta disagree. This video focused solely on levels of muscular damage determine wolverines potential to gain muscle mass. Wolverine wouldn’t have to do an extreme amount of exercise, he would just have to do a limited amount of intense exercise, then recover from said exercise, then repeat. He’ll be able to work out more often, allowing him to get more muscular quicker. One of the reasons bodybuilders become as big as they do is the ability to recover faster from their workouts by way of anabolic steroids. Without the need for steroids, wolverine could recover to a greater degree than others. This video also didn’t take into consideration the type of exercise Wolverine would be accustomed to doing, seeing as he’s carrying an added 100 pounds of adamantium every day. His time under tension during this adaptation period right after the weapon x program would be optimal for muscle growth. I’m not getting too into it, but I’m just briefly listing a few things for thought.

    • @ntolman
      @ntolman 6 років тому +11

      Exactly, his resting period would be much shorter. He could do full body resistance training 7 days a week.

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  6 років тому +24

      I agree with you in that his recovery period would probably be a lot faster, which in theory would allow him to work out more. However, as I pointed out, studies have found that even if you knock out the regenerating cells in muscles, hypertrophy can still happen. So I was moreso getting at the fact that his healing factor doesn't directly let him build more muscle BY ITSELF. But I can see the confusion given the title. Thanks Ramon. -- KH

    • @Thurgor_Supreme
      @Thurgor_Supreme 6 років тому +10

      His "resting period" would be in between sets! 7 days a week? Hell, he could work out 7 times a day. In fact, he'd probably reach his theoretical maximum by the end of his first hour in the gym.

    • @theonlyrealcdub
      @theonlyrealcdub 6 років тому +2

      Nerdist he is also hundreds of years old. Body builders have a short window to be the most buff of their lives but wolverine is well wolverine

    • @LOLAP95
      @LOLAP95 6 років тому

      Ramon Cruz did u even watch the video?

  • @flyingfree333
    @flyingfree333 6 років тому +191

    You are talking about human body repair, wolverine is more like a lizard that regrows limbs, and in regrowing limbs they grow new muscle tissue. Wolverine and Deadpool can regrow any lost tissue so are now like humans in regards to permanent muscle loss and they could potentially gain new muscle cells in response to extreme muscle damage due to working out extremely hard.

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  6 років тому +41

      I am talking specifically about muscle repair as it relates to muscle growth. The research I could find/understand pointed to a relationship that was NOT dose-response (more muscle damage means more muscle hypertrophy). What you're posing is I think a different question: If Wolverine lost his limb, would it grow back all muscled? And even then, I don't think so. -- KH

    • @erbgorre
      @erbgorre 6 років тому +38

      no, i think the point he is making is that youre treating wolverine like a human being in this thought experiment, by postulating that - like a human - his beefing up through exercise would only come from increasing the size of his muscle cells and not their number.
      but since wolverine can grow back any kind of tissue that restriction does not apply to him. he has to be more like a gecko or even a plant in that his cells must be able to dedifferentiate and then regrow into any kind of tissue needed. and in that case, any kind of muscle tissue damage would probably indeed keep on making him beefier and beefier until he becomes an unidentifiable beefball of beefyness ;D

    • @Ariaelyne
      @Ariaelyne 6 років тому +11

      A gecko can't recreate progenitor cells, not sure whether the sentence was saying that or that was towards plants.
      Regeneration like Wolverine's would probably mean extreme muscle damage would simply 'reset' the area with new muscle cells that would need to be worked out.

    • @seredahawke3207
      @seredahawke3207 6 років тому

      If he regrows instead of repairs then wouldn't he lose muscle mass? Why would newly grown muscles be big if they weren't the ones that were exercised, that just wouldn't make sense.

    • @Bolshoi333
      @Bolshoi333 6 років тому +2

      I think all it means is he wouldn't suffer permanent muscle damage. It wouldn't have any affect on how swole he got.

  • @warnerww83
    @warnerww83 6 років тому +42

    How much force can Wolverine's muscles exert since he doesn't have to worry about snapping a bone/tearing ligaments etc?

    • @Kevineitor199
      @Kevineitor199 6 років тому +11

      warnerww83 well,since the breaking point of tendons and muscles still the same, around 400-500kg

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  6 років тому +21

      Right, he still has to worry about ripping stuff, it's just not as crippling for him because it grows back. -- KH

    • @asianniga
      @asianniga 6 років тому +2

      would figure with his way more heavy bones that he would have to worry about them snapping and tearing even more.

  • @arithedandy
    @arithedandy 6 років тому +74

    Hugh-jacked-man I caught that.... Kyle.

  • @Huntzilla99
    @Huntzilla99 6 років тому +37

    You know I was wondering if X-23 already had adamantium on her bones as a 11 year old how would she be able to "grow up"?

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 6 років тому +19

      Huntzilla 1999 she only has adamantium on her claws not on her other bones.

    • @jreddie92
      @jreddie92 6 років тому +7

      She has it on her claws only, not her skeleton

    • @Huntzilla99
      @Huntzilla99 6 років тому +1

      Barry Bend That makes sense but how do you know?

    • @SciFiFan2012
      @SciFiFan2012 6 років тому +7

      Huntzilla 1999 it's somewhere in on of her books, or in her Marvel wiki entry.

    • @dyslegein
      @dyslegein 6 років тому +11

      In both the movie and comics it show scientist removing all her claws and putting them back in with a shiny metal coating.

  • @RobKinneySouthpaw
    @RobKinneySouthpaw 6 років тому +83

    Wolverine gets no scars despite losing huge chunks of flesh, so one might assume his muscle cells remain miotic.

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  6 років тому +21

      Sure, but again, muscles don't get bigger by adding more cells -- by dividing. The cells themselves increase in size. Given what I found, I think it'd be very weird for brand new tissue to grow back in the same hypertrophied state, as if it "remembered" how jacked it was. -- KH

    • @86jpw
      @86jpw 6 років тому +7

      Yea but remember his power is survivability. His healing factor is a major part of that. What if his power keeps him in top shape to survive? Like how he has animal instincts and a tracking ability via scent. So wouldn't it make more sense then? If you go with that as his power.

    • @malcontent79
      @malcontent79 6 років тому +19

      I mean, dude's HAIRCUT grows back that very specific coif, so as written, his powers are more about returning to some kind of set default state. Because Comics.

    • @jaygon8656
      @jaygon8656 6 років тому +16

      @James Callaghan Yeah there is clearly some type of "genetic memory" associated with his healing factor

    • @javianbrown8627
      @javianbrown8627 6 років тому

      Jaygon! This will be useful info for me

  • @LevelUpLifting
    @LevelUpLifting 6 років тому +11

    "Huge Jacked Man" HAHAHAHAHAHA 😂😂😂

  • @grimrenaissance
    @grimrenaissance 6 років тому +8

    The best part of Thursdays

  • @tobinrowe9558
    @tobinrowe9558 6 років тому +2

    How do one-way shields work. I'm talking about those bubble shields in some video games that prevent physical and energy projectiles from passing into to the shield from the outside, yet if the same weapon is fired from inside the shield, it passes straight through.

  • @elinobenjamin_val
    @elinobenjamin_val 6 років тому +15

    Wouldn't the graph you drew mean that the max amount of growth is achieved at 0 damage? Shouldn't it look more like a bell curve?

    • @jollygoodfellow3957
      @jollygoodfellow3957 6 років тому +9

      Exactly. It's not directly inverse, but a bell curve. Damage to a point causes growth. Too much and too little damage causes regression.

  • @kevinmalone6436
    @kevinmalone6436 6 років тому +13

    7:32 I see what you did there!

  • @williamoldaker5348
    @williamoldaker5348 6 років тому +35

    Godzilla sized peacock mantis shrimp what's the math on its punch.

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  6 років тому +19

      I think it would suffocate at that size, but fun question! -- KH

    • @ThrottleKitty
      @ThrottleKitty 6 років тому +7

      Godzilla would probably suffocate at that size, pretty sure his mass would be to great for his lungs to even expand, and that's not even getting to the heart!

    • @aidanschooley7052
      @aidanschooley7052 6 місяців тому

      Probably literally causing a sonic boom

  • @spluddrott
    @spluddrott 6 років тому +82

    Misleading onomatopoeia 😂

    • @AldenPez
      @AldenPez 6 років тому +3

      It took me a second to realize what he said but once I did I lol'ed 😂😂😂

  • @wlittle8908
    @wlittle8908 5 років тому +12

    I'd like to know how Superman built up his muscles.Apparently there's nothing heavy enough to cause resistance training.

    • @Metalffe
      @Metalffe 2 роки тому

      Farm work lol

    • @StarForgers
      @StarForgers 2 роки тому

      He would push against himself I guess.

    • @WISH12806
      @WISH12806 Рік тому

      He use to bench the earth core in comics

    • @markkarasik2211
      @markkarasik2211 Рік тому +3

      😎I just want to know how he cuts his hair and nails.

  • @tanvswild
    @tanvswild 6 років тому +1

    I've been thinking about this for many years. Thank you so much, Kyle!!!!

  • @The5armdamput33
    @The5armdamput33 6 років тому +21

    Wolverine hasn't had an adanantium skeleton for his entire life - or even most of his life...
    Wolverine has an unnaturally long lifespan.... His skeleton has been made of bones for centuries... The chrome job is a recent feature....

    • @Artistofprocedure
      @Artistofprocedure 6 років тому

      The5armdamput33 the regeneration hasn't let him age more than 5 years that usually happens with powerful regeneration power

    • @The5armdamput33
      @The5armdamput33 6 років тому +3

      Artist of Procedure
      His lifespan has less to do with regeneration and more to do with him literally beating death in a physical fight...
      Wolverine has been alive pre-colonial era....
      If you only watched the movies, this doesn't apply (living for centuries)...
      But the fact about not having the metal skeleton for most of his life is still just as valid...

    • @Artistofprocedure
      @Artistofprocedure 6 років тому

      The5armdamput33 I'm not arguing with you Ik everything about when he was born I was just stating something

    • @loganhowlette7223
      @loganhowlette7223 6 років тому +1

      Plus the couple o'times it was ripped outta my body....

    • @Artistofprocedure
      @Artistofprocedure 6 років тому +1

      Logan Howlette rember your true name james

  • @williamwinder3466
    @williamwinder3466 6 років тому +1

    00:11 The claws are part of his anatomy. They like his bones are laced with the Adamantiume metal.

  • @NitpickingNerd
    @NitpickingNerd 6 років тому +6

    when Logan worked for a mob boss and eating more and working out he was much more muscular. when he later lived in Canada with much fewer food and colder weather his muscle became much smaller.

  • @amigopuerco
    @amigopuerco 6 років тому +1

    This episode had me rolling
    1. The Arnold voice
    2. Huge jacked man
    3. Hurts everytime
    4. Onomatopoeia

  • @MichaelGaryScott90
    @MichaelGaryScott90 6 років тому +23

    Kyle, can you calculate the upper strength limit of Captain America in the MCU? I was thinking specifically of the scene in captain America: The Winter Soldier where Steve Rogers keeps a helicopter from taking off by only using upper body strength. Given that back in the the Dark Ages people were "drawn and quartered" (pulled apart using ropes tied to horses running in opposite directions), how strong would you have to be to pull off a feat like Captain America?

    • @loNslo33
      @loNslo33 6 років тому +1

      -Aaron Alejos, Just look up the max take off weight of that model of helicopter. Aircraft flight is lift overcoming weight. So, whatever the max load (in lbs.) that copter is designed to lift would be your answer for that scenario. I'm sure Cap could've taken on an even heavier helicopter.

    • @midnight9386
      @midnight9386 6 років тому +4

      Look at Comic Books Vs. The World, he goes over it.

    • @phothewin6019
      @phothewin6019 4 роки тому

      That happens in Civil War, not Winter Soldier.

  • @ndcoach29
    @ndcoach29 5 років тому +2

    “MISLEADING ONOMATOPOEIA”. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @ahsandar3522
    @ahsandar3522 6 років тому +7

    funny how I was thinking about this last week!

  • @kshizz
    @kshizz 6 років тому +1

    Very interesting Because Science today. Keep up the great work Kyle.

  • @RyuuToon
    @RyuuToon 6 років тому +17

    But wolverine got many damage over the years (burned by A bomb), so shouldn’t he completely made out of scar tissue?

    • @spencerhansen2927
      @spencerhansen2927 6 років тому +11

      Ban that's not how wolverine works

    • @GoldenWhistle
      @GoldenWhistle 6 років тому +4

      Ban wolverine can repair all his damage . His cells can make a copy of itself without losing the length of DNA. He once regenerate his body from one drop of blood.

    • @simonwinn8757
      @simonwinn8757 6 років тому +5

      If he can regenerate from 1 drop of blood, with all the fights he has been in, how came there is no legion of Wolverines.

    • @gabemerritt3139
      @gabemerritt3139 6 років тому

      Simon Winn I suppose there is a main cell in his body that contains the majority of his being. But that's not cannon. Personally I like to believe near complete destruction of his brain would cause death, but that's not cannon either

    • @darylewalker6862
      @darylewalker6862 6 років тому +4

      Simon Winn, that one drop of blood spilled onto an omnipotent McGuffin before that effect happened; stock Wolverine probably can’t do that.

  • @ladyluna6082
    @ladyluna6082 6 років тому +1

    You make science and learning and nerding so damn fun and cool. You are so adorkable i want to hug you!! Thanks for all of your knowledge and hard work!

  • @clairekidd5691
    @clairekidd5691 6 років тому +11

    Hugh Jackman is jacked because science

  • @susie154
    @susie154 6 років тому +1

    Fascinating!
    And you gave my laugh muscle a great workout :D

  • @marc-olivierouellet2338
    @marc-olivierouellet2338 6 років тому +3

    hey kyle! you should probably put the reference of the researches in which you find your facts in the description, just a suggestion, i might be interested in reading those

  • @SCahn-fo9go
    @SCahn-fo9go 6 років тому +1

    Someone finally answered this, I have been wondering for years, literally since I first read a wolverine comic

  • @ruyman90
    @ruyman90 6 років тому +8

    He must be hella strong because I still don't know how does his claws never get stuck. I mean he gets through reinforced steel doors while I struggle to unstuck an axe from a tree

    • @malcontent79
      @malcontent79 6 років тому +3

      Adamantium cuts through things on a molecular level. You don't need to be all that strong to make that work.

    • @ruyman90
      @ruyman90 6 років тому +2

      True, I do know that but the problem is that the metal is not frictionless (if it was it would fall out of Logan's body) and it cuts meaning that anything pushes matter by its sides around the blade may stop it from moving forward, specially things as plastic as steel or wood. Heck sometimes steal blades get stuck into meat and bone.
      One swing into a metal plate and wolverine's claws would be stuck as worse than an axe gets stuck into a tree

    • @malcontent79
      @malcontent79 6 років тому +3

      There's already a Because Science video about this. I encourage you to check that out and see if that answers your question. But his MU database entry says he can bench 800lbs, so you're not wrong that he is ALSO hella strong.

  • @ArtFreak17
    @ArtFreak17 6 років тому +1

    I actually would really like to run a marathon (or even half of one) someday. And I can't help but wonder if at least part of the pressures to keep muscle mass lower in endurance training schemes has to do with the benefits of keeping your overall body weight lower?
    It would take more physiological energy to travel a certain distance with more weight. More resistance for your legs to fight against to achieve distance.
    I mean - I love how pressures can affect the various bodily systems in general. (Like exercise also stimulates your bones to become stronger as well. The increase in VO2 Max is great - esp via cardio/aerobic training. And the whole innervation process is super cool too. I've been exercising regularly for a bit over 2 years now and the improvements in my senses of balance/coordination is awesome!)

  • @luramirez
    @luramirez 6 років тому +7

    How does Goku and Vegeta's strength work? Because they also get stronger when they take heavy damage except it can't be self inflicted.

    • @cherrydragon3120
      @cherrydragon3120 6 років тому +5

      luis ramirez because anime logic

    • @javianbrown8627
      @javianbrown8627 6 років тому +1

      gshsgfhgsfdz I like that answer. It does seem the second Vegeta decided to take advantage of it by having Krillin hurt him the show just discards the idea of them getting stronger through this process

  • @antonsilversjo3115
    @antonsilversjo3115 6 років тому

    I have been thinking about this for so long, that his hypertrophy would be almost instant. So cool that you are finally covering it.

  • @elinobenjamin_val
    @elinobenjamin_val 6 років тому +8

    Awh, I was ready to get hit with some sick fitness sponsors):

  • @user-zp5vt1tu6b
    @user-zp5vt1tu6b 6 років тому +7

    I thought muscle size limit was ultimately dependent upon how much Myostatin was in your body

  • @aidanmcintyre7585
    @aidanmcintyre7585 5 років тому +5

    It’s actually cannon that Wolverine makes the “skint” sound himself, like with his mouth😂

  • @demiboi0315
    @demiboi0315 6 років тому +1

    Huge, jacked man.
    That was pretty good Kyle.

  • @Kaine2099
    @Kaine2099 6 років тому +4

    Kyle!
    Please do a video about Kaine's cellular degeneration!

  • @dayswillburn777
    @dayswillburn777 5 років тому

    One thing I wanted to point out at 6:44
    With long distance running, you're not damaging the muscles the same way. With hypertrophy training, your damaging more type 2 muscle fibers. And it's not just a couple of reps either, you're training with large amounts of volume throughout your workout, several times a week at least. With long distance running, you're using more type 1 muscle fibers which can withstand long bouts of use and take longer to fatigue (the bioenergetic principles change as well). With other factors in place, sarcoplasmic/myofibular (spl) Hypertrophy is directly related to muscle gains in size and strength. What you discribed (lifting a few kg a couple time a week) is NOT "hypertrophy" training. Muscles grow in response to a need to grow, principle of adaption. The more resistance stress put on the muscle, the bigger/strong it'll get its response to that stress overtime.
    Otherwise, I still live your vids, keep em comin 🔥

  • @MeMyselfAndKgore
    @MeMyselfAndKgore 6 років тому +6

    I used to think about this a lot

  • @John3K21
    @John3K21 6 років тому +1

    Fun video man. Hit a lot of my interests all in one. Haha. And I enjoyed the side bit at the end about how to be healthy. Totally accurate. Keep up the good work man! Fun content.

  • @upwiggins
    @upwiggins 6 років тому +26

    Wouldn't Wolverine constantly be hungry because of his insane healing Factor. Like wouldn't it be like on the Goku and Luffy type levels of eating like he would be able to eat the entire Buffet by his self in order to sustain him constantly regenerating

    • @ricardoferns56
      @ricardoferns56 6 років тому +7

      David W I've wondered about this ever since I learnt how food is necessary for growth.

    • @davidmopar8446
      @davidmopar8446 6 років тому +6

      Like flash .

    • @Kaine2099
      @Kaine2099 6 років тому +4

      evo 9 gsr maybe he doesn't sheet

    • @cherrydragon3120
      @cherrydragon3120 6 років тому +8

      I think he would.
      Super regeneration or not. Your body does NEED the stuff to actualy produce those cells to repair/replace tissue. Without it. Your body isn't doing jack shit.
      Thus wolverine would be eating like a bodybuilder. Or even more depensing on how much shit his body needs to produce to keep him healthy

    • @tiagotiagot
      @tiagotiagot 6 років тому +8

      I imagine he's getting the mass/energy from some sort of other universe, sorta like how Cyclop's eyeballs are a portal to a universe filled with whatever concussive energy is.

  • @nateinthenorth1999
    @nateinthenorth1999 6 років тому

    "It hurt. Every time. Which was once. But it hurt." Love it.

  • @ericfellner2689
    @ericfellner2689 6 років тому +46

    I have actually thought about this my entire life. I haven't watched the video yet, not only could he be great at it, his muscles would never degrade/atrophy.

    • @ericfellner2689
      @ericfellner2689 6 років тому

      Had to get those thoughts out there to see if my heart gets broken or not.

    • @GuyWithAnAmazingHat
      @GuyWithAnAmazingHat 6 років тому +7

      Same, he can literally damage and regrow his muscles infinitely, which the Hulk actually demonstrates with even greater effect.

    • @ericfellner2689
      @ericfellner2689 6 років тому

      GuyWithAnAmazingHat Nope. We were wrong.

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  6 років тому +11

      Muscle damage plays some role of course, but the research I could find indicated that it's not a direct relationship. It's more complicated than that. -- KH

    • @ericfellner2689
      @ericfellner2689 6 років тому

      Nerdist Yeah. My comment was totally just my guess from before watching the video. Unfortunately, not all things work intuitively, haha. Who would have guessed?

  • @JJ-si4qh
    @JJ-si4qh 6 років тому +1

    More vids like this, please! It contains knowledge that can be applied to every day life.

  • @jacobm8242
    @jacobm8242 6 років тому +7

    The first cut made me uncomfortable

  • @Akumac4
    @Akumac4 6 років тому

    I've just come across because science recently and I must say, very very informative on a number of topics and funny as heck, Kyle you are a genius at delivering content, very entertaining, do not change a thing!

  • @atguttcheck
    @atguttcheck 6 років тому +5

    I always thought this

  • @matheusfachini9149
    @matheusfachini9149 6 років тому

    You were really accurate the whole video, but the main reason why marathon runners are not jacked is most likely because the brain doesn't react the same way to that (very low) intencity of training. Meaning that the adaptation will be different... Also because the range of motion is more limited, and probably a bunch of other factors that I haven't studied enouth to know lol. But it was a great video! It's amazing that in 10 minutes you gave more accurate knowledge than the entirety of most "fitness" and "training" channels! Congratulations

  • @FatesHandler
    @FatesHandler 6 років тому +4

    idea for an episode..honestly I'm just curious..how much would goldar from the power rangers reboot be worth if he is made out of actual liquid gold??

    • @FireShinbo
      @FireShinbo 6 років тому +1

      Fates Handler Also how much gold it would take to make goldar

    • @cherrydragon3120
      @cherrydragon3120 6 років тому +1

      Well 1st. If he is made out of liquid gold. Just search up his weight. And take that weight and check the gold price per Gram. ;)
      Liquid or solid. Gold is gold. Its price is based on weight and purity.

  • @johnlemus7921
    @johnlemus7921 6 років тому

    There are two types of skeletal muscle fibers: slow-twitch (type I) and fast-twitch (type II). Slow-twitch muscles help enable long-endurance feats such as distance running, while fast-twitch muscles fatigue faster but are used in powerful bursts of movements like sprinting. Wolverine has both types at peak, as does Hugh Jackman. One advantage Wolverine has over High is, because of his healing factor, he does not have to deal with muscle soreness for as along a period. Another is that Wolverine could never Over Train a muscle, which anyone who works out regularly knows, its a real risk.

  • @spook404
    @spook404 6 років тому +8

    but in the comics didnt wolverine get nuked down to his skelleton and then reparied him self perfectly?

    • @lasarith2
      @lasarith2 6 років тому +1

      Spooky Boy I don’t know anymore then yes he did.

    • @Ariaelyne
      @Ariaelyne 6 років тому +2

      Wouldn't that mean he would lose all muscle memory, actual memory, and the knowledge of how to walk?

    • @elchicoreacts872
      @elchicoreacts872 6 років тому

      Yes he did but the only actual way to clear his memory is to shoot Wolverine in the head just like how they did in both X-Men Origins Wolverine and X2:X-Men United but that only happened in Origins for some reason, most likely maybe because of Striker shooting Logan with 2 Adamantium bullets

  • @GiRR007
    @GiRR007 6 років тому +2

    Wolverines healing ins't your standard healing though, like there are some tissues that regular humans cant grow back, but wolverine can grow back almost all of his tissue, and he doesn't seem have have scars.

  • @gunxswordification
    @gunxswordification 6 років тому +3

    Wolverine can regrow muscle it doesn't turn to scare tissue unsure if that changes anything but hey

  • @Jean_grey159
    @Jean_grey159 6 років тому +1

    Dude, I NEED those claws...
    Badly

  • @LowBudgetMan415
    @LowBudgetMan415 6 років тому +3

    Love this channel and love Kyle Hill, so don't take this the wrong way... but I wanna see just ONE installment of "Because Science" hosted by Andrew Bowser... Or maybe cohosted? Just one; then Kyle all the way.

    • @lunadiamoor29
      @lunadiamoor29 6 років тому +1

      Low Budget Man I age they could do the science of double jumping kyle dressed as peach and Andrew as Mario on second thought kyle did that sad missed the chance

    • @LowBudgetMan415
      @LowBudgetMan415 6 років тому

      Angel Stenglein
      I thought you were sarcastically telling me that they had already done that in their Double Jump video... Just watched the whole thing and that didn't happen... I'm sad now.... and I feel silly...

  • @mechasentai
    @mechasentai 6 років тому

    "Because Science" really needs to be its own channel. Can't get enough.

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 6 років тому +24

    Space 1999 moon Exodus please.

    • @paulcoy9060
      @paulcoy9060 6 років тому

      Try explaining the episode where they went through a black hole unharmed! Although, if I had my choice, do one on the inter-dimensional "Space Dragon", with the tentacles and the single lighted eye, and how it could exist in both universes at once.

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 6 років тому

      Well episode one is my first for science to be explained or debunk.

  • @_o.0_
    @_o.0_ 5 років тому +1

    Wolverine's healing factor is regeneration, not technically the same thing as human's healing factor since we don't 'regenerate'. Meaning he would gain muscle at generally the same way or less than a normal human's rate due to his regeneration abilities.

  • @RenkoBocchi
    @RenkoBocchi 6 років тому +4

    Is circumcision possible for Wolverine?

    • @lunadiamoor29
      @lunadiamoor29 6 років тому +3

      Len Frantora he only developed these powers as a teen so only if he had it as a baby

    • @richterman3962
      @richterman3962 5 років тому

      @@lunadiamoor29 not in the comics he was like 8

    • @lunadiamoor29
      @lunadiamoor29 5 років тому

      @@richterman3962 so he still could've been as a baby

  • @MrHootiedean
    @MrHootiedean 6 років тому

    I did not see this video being so educational. Great job!

  • @bimbokoopa7285
    @bimbokoopa7285 6 років тому +6

    Huge Jack'd Man!

  • @yoinia
    @yoinia 6 років тому +1

    This is a very insightful video because I was planning my workout just a few minutes ago

  • @chaddixon9764
    @chaddixon9764 6 років тому +16

    There is one glaring error in this video. Wolverine CAN grow new muscle cells. If he could not he would not be able regenerate functioning limbs.

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix 6 років тому +2

      Noximus Jamaicanus the point of these videos is not to justify fictional comic books and their stories, it is to glean some sort of real world insight inspired buy the comic books.

    • @chaddixon9764
      @chaddixon9764 6 років тому +3

      DrewLSsix Nope, the point of these videos is to see how/if characters from comic books work using real world science.

    • @DrewLSsix
      @DrewLSsix 6 років тому +1

      Noximus Jamaicanus. Nope, because that has no value whatsoever. Otherwise Kyle would be contorting science to explain how a light saber works, but he doesnt. He explains how something approximating the function of a light saber could work. Even though the real world explanation leads to unpleasant side effects like the person holding said saber being boiled amd burned away when he turns it on.

    • @chaddixon9764
      @chaddixon9764 6 років тому +1

      DrewLSsix Clearly you missed the IF part of the statement "how/if." Which is why he comes to the conclusion in the lightsaber video that if they were to conform to real science to operate as they appear to they would kill everyone in the room. What you are saying is entirely incorrect. You have been watching this series with an entirely incorrect premise.

    • @LOLAP95
      @LOLAP95 6 років тому

      Noximus Jamaicanus clearly you have no idea what youre talking about

  • @evilradish2556
    @evilradish2556 6 років тому

    Muscle hypertrophy is mostly caused by a combination of growth factors. The major factor is mTOR, which acts as epigenetic factor that promotes protein synthesis. That growth factor is kinda universal, for example it promotes rapid cancer cell division, and I think it may play an important role in regeneration. Our body uses anaerobic glycolysis (mostly) for ATP resynthesis during the resistance training, which metabolic byproducts changes the pH of extracellular fluid around the muscle cell and causes activation of mTOR signaling pathway.
    What am I trying to say, that if Wolverine has upregaulated mTOR signaling pathways due to his healing factor, he may be gaining muscle mass more easily, especially if he carrying an adamantium skeleton, as you said.

  • @StangDGB
    @StangDGB 6 років тому +3

    ketogenic diet? Beef its whats for dinner

  • @wenjizeng89
    @wenjizeng89 5 років тому

    Fast twitch muscle fibers are for brief, intense activity, like lifting weight and sprinting (hence why sprinters are more jacked than endurance runners). They get bigger because their main method of ATP generation is glycolysis, which is way faster than oxidative phosphorylation, but way less efficient, so they need to be able to store a lot more glycogen (branched glucose) in their cytosplasm to adapt to progressive overload.
    Slow twitch muscle fibers are for sustained, long period of low to moderate activity like endurance running, endurance swimming, walking etc. and they generate their ATP from oxidative phosphorylation, much slower and more efficient than glycolysis. These muscle fibers don't get that much bigger, because their way to adapt to progressive overload is through increasing their mitochondria count. Also because oxidative phosphorylation is more efficient than glycolysis they don't need to generate that much more mitochondria.

  • @Timcudjoe
    @Timcudjoe 6 років тому +3

    He is 5’4 tho

    • @pizzas4breakfast
      @pizzas4breakfast 6 років тому +1

      Tim Cudjoe 5'3.5"

    • @Timcudjoe
      @Timcudjoe 6 років тому +1

      Give or take lol

    • @himynameis2739
      @himynameis2739 6 років тому +3

      Marvel disagrees with you.
      marvel.com/characters/66/wolverine
      "Real Name James Howlett
      Height 5'3"
      Weight (Without Adamantium skeleton) 195 lbs., (with Adamantium skeleton) 300 lbs."

    • @GuyWithAnAmazingHat
      @GuyWithAnAmazingHat 6 років тому +2

      And his stout frame actually means that he has shorter, tighter and thus stronger muscles.

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  6 років тому

      oooo0o0o0o -- KH

  • @Stepokedur
    @Stepokedur 6 років тому +1

    Awesome vid as always Kyle! I often wondered if, like me, Wolvie would have things like pernicious anaemia as his healing is so good his body might over do it on the auto immunity side of things. What you think?

  • @chayanaforde2471
    @chayanaforde2471 6 років тому +16

    When you said "Toatlly Jacked Bro!" I was so disappointed when you didn't say 'Totally Jacked-man'. I disappointed in you Kyle- I thought you would never pass up a good pun, but I guess Hugh Jackman wasn't good enough for you.
    Edit:
    I apologise. I see that you were saving it for a much better place in the video. I should never have doubted your pundeniable abilities of humour, Kyle. Good job, man

    • @LordBaktor
      @LordBaktor 6 років тому +1

      If you're into puns check out Outside Xbox and Outside Xtra, those channels are pun maniacs, they never let a good pun opportunity pass by and they even highlight the best puns from their comments sections.

    • @KevinMayle1974
      @KevinMayle1974 6 років тому +2

      Later he said Huge Jacked Man, which is actually a better pun. Go listen again. It's at 7:32.

    • @Nerdist
      @Nerdist  6 років тому +5

      Everyone in here commenting before watching... -- KH

    • @LordBaktor
      @LordBaktor 6 років тому +1

      Or watching with only half the brain turned on, like my case...

  • @leaguemastergg3647
    @leaguemastergg3647 5 років тому

    5:38 did you know that there is a medical procedure that utilizes pig bladder tissue to help you grow back tissue that you wouldn't normally be able to regenerate, and it works really well. One guy grew back part of his finger which stopped at the last knuckle before his fingernail!

  • @Definitely_a_Fox
    @Definitely_a_Fox 6 років тому

    7:49 omg this guy is the definition of the perfect human.

  • @slorr55
    @slorr55 6 років тому

    So why does muscle lose size when you dont work it anymore? Im asking because it becomes breaks and repairs itself, what happens to the “damage” done by exercise when you dont exercise anymore?

  • @arnavjain7564
    @arnavjain7564 6 років тому

    I saw this on nat geo that endurance athletes require a lot of energy and that is why when they run out of energy from the food they eat and the fat in their body, their body starts to consume their own muscles for energy. Maybe that explains the downwards sloping graph between muscle damage and growth

  • @Thane36425
    @Thane36425 6 років тому

    If I remember right, Wolverine was described as quite muscular for his size, probably toward the natural maximum. It may have been somewhere in the 160 to 180 pound range, which is huge for a 5'3" man. After the adamantium implant his weight was at least doubled, so he would be getting quite a workout just moving around.

  • @DemitriVladMaximov
    @DemitriVladMaximov 6 років тому

    Many have already covered the point about Wolverine's tissue not being that of a normal human and thus why he can regrow his whole body after being hit by a nuke (yea he grew back his whole body from nothing but his adamentium skeleton), but I think that just by walking Wolverine would get more of a work out than any normal human as the skeleton is laced with the previously mentioned metal and thus he weighs about 1000 lbs and is still able to move with the agility and speed beyond Olympic level athlete.

  • @drakestafford1
    @drakestafford1 6 років тому +1

    I don't know for certain about Wolverine, however, our foul-mouthed friend, Deadpool whos powers are derived from Wolverine was able to regrow a limb including bone and muscle, Wolverine is able to regrow and repair any cells damaged by gunshots, additionally neither Wolverine nor Deadpool scar knowing that there muscle cells will divide to replace the old ones

  • @Helicondrummer
    @Helicondrummer 6 років тому

    Nerdist must have good insurance to let Kyle play with this at work.

  • @prashikjadhav3954
    @prashikjadhav3954 6 років тому

    Videos are getting better.
    - Loki

  • @blackblade99009
    @blackblade99009 6 років тому

    canonically wolverine carries around a skeleton equaling about 300 pounds that being internally he is also able to lift a semi a vehicle equally at least 8 tons (based on model) so it is possible though his version of weight training would have to be extreme given the fact that his body takes on the hidden power route of being small but extremely strong (we are talking about a 5"3 guy who gave the hulk a concussion by punching him in the face hard enough to send him through a building)

  • @shamrock4578
    @shamrock4578 6 років тому

    thanks! ive been getting back to the gym this year and this had a lot of useful info.

  • @alexanerose4820
    @alexanerose4820 6 років тому

    OMG I've been wondering about this for YEARS and never got a clear answer. Now, I got it from the best source possible. Thanks Kle, you really are the best and most fabulous. TEACH ME YOUR WAYS O GLORIOUS HAIRED MASTER !

  • @crankyartist111
    @crankyartist111 6 років тому

    Why is it when Wolverine gets a head injury or something and loses his hair, his hair regenerates too? Not only does it regenerate, but it regenerates to the length it was before AND in that signature Wolvie hairdo! It could be his healing factor just rebuilds the body, including his hair, back to the way it was before the injury. However, that wouldn't explain why it heals into the shape of his hair unless his hair naturally grows like that.

  • @eziosniper10001
    @eziosniper10001 6 років тому

    Hey Kyle, I've got another topic for a "Because Science" episode. In the video game: Halo Reach, George says this: "MAC rounds, In Atmosphere?!" Suggesting that firing such a weapon on a planet's surface should never be considered an option. So my question for you is: What exactly would happen (all science possibilities included) if such a devastating weapon was to be fired in lets just say Earth's atmosphere?

  • @jamesdolan7485
    @jamesdolan7485 6 років тому

    Even if your correct about the body building, which I have reservations about. Wolverine would be the ultimate stamina freak, with how crazy his regeneration is then wouldn’t he be able to run basically forever, as he regenerates muscular damage as it happens. His only limit would be if he were killed by something, like Thanos or blood poisoning by his Adimantium

  • @gordonmurray2102
    @gordonmurray2102 6 років тому

    I've wondered about the "constant adamantium workout" before, and lots of other X-characters have complained how heavy he is when they had to move him around while he was unconscious. Marvel says the metal adds over 100 pounds of weight. But I do have to wonder if Logan's muscles behave under stress like a normal human's would. The fact that muscle cells don't divide to replace dead ones might not apply here since Logan can heal any wound that doesn't kill him-we've seen him lose all soft tissue down to the skeleton where the muscle is obviously just gone. How many times have we seen his adamantium forehead or cheekbones? Later all of the soft tissue has returned, healed without loss of function since the muscles in his face still let him have facial expressions. Presumably even things like cartilage and nerves come right back. If his mutation allows his muscle cells to divide to regenerate and replace, then he might not ever get beyond a certain range of damage whatever the situation, they might just start healing whether in mid-workout or in mid-combat.
    Regardless, I've never liked the super-jacked, one percent body fat Wolverine. The bodybuilder look that Arnold perfected in competitions is in reality really unhealthy. To achieve it, the bodybuilders have to get pretty dehydrated to get their skin that thin. I have to think Logan would be super-healthy instead, and look a lot more like a male Olympic gymnast or Navy SEAL, solid and muscular but healthy and compact. Not to mention that if he were that musclebound he couldn't run very far or fast, and Logan has covered ground on foot like a marathon runner when in wild, rough terrain. He can practically keep up with Spider-Man in an urban environment.

  • @chronicallyfabulous88
    @chronicallyfabulous88 6 років тому

    Thank you SO MUCH for making this video and dispelling this particularly pervasive myth! My genetic disorder (one of the Ehlers-Danlos Syndromes) makes it very difficult for me to build muscle & to keep it once I do. But having strong, functional muscles is crucial for protecting & strengthening my incredibly loose and fragile joints.
    My inherent tissue fragility means that normal exercise is dangerous and I sustain a lot more micro-damage from even gentle strength training, so I have to be very careful and specific in how I work out. Aaand I've lost count of how many people I've had tell me to "just push through the pain" because "you have to damage muscle to build it". Including 3 physiotherapists, each of whom I promptly stopped seeing 😒
    My Biomedical Science degree has helped me so much in understanding how my body works differently to what's "normal" for us humans and muscle structure and function has been a big part of that.
    Science FTW!! 😁🤘

  • @juggaloforlife4682
    @juggaloforlife4682 6 років тому

    "It hurt, everytime..which is once but it hurt" lol

  • @skyanimal
    @skyanimal 4 роки тому

    Going thru Army Basic Training, we were doing pushups constantly. My biceps went from bulky and feeling spongy, to smaller and hard as rocks.

  • @CruaverVoidDrake
    @CruaverVoidDrake 6 років тому

    You're failing to note that Logan is a superpowered mutant, it is possible that his body's cells are all capable of remaining somatic stem cells and thus enabling his extensive regeneration of material that should normally be irreversibly damaged and his lack of scar tissue. He would still need a major diet and metabolic rate to keep up with all the damage, but the material and energy has to come from somewhere afterall.

  • @BrettG17
    @BrettG17 6 років тому

    Episode idea:
    Would sci-fi spaceships be able to fly with energy shields active?
    By Newton's third law, they should expel fuel which bounces off the back of their shields, canceling out the speed gained and making their engines useless, but is there a workaround?