Vlog #92 - Stopped by the police: What happened in the end? (TM CPC: Week 3)
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In this video I tell you what happened after getting stopped by the police a few weeks ago and share an update on the transport manager CPC course.
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I thought you had to be notified within 14 days. 31/3/22 to 17/4/22 is more than that! Worth looking into if you haven't already been advised!
Nice to have met you today,good luck for the future.🤞
I saw a big smile when you turned round to grab your course work, ☺, a good sign, 👍.
Very comprehensive, ref what you have shared todate on the TM CPC course, did you cost the decorating at home using your newly learnt knowledge 😉 😀?
Excellent and informative Hayley, as others have commented, just accept the FPN, or use your newly found knowledge to calculate costs to appeal, could be a real case example 😀.
Great video Hayley, quite a few hats to wear, more homework 😀.
Blindside reversing and out of a tight doorway at that, nicely done, I'm just starting my C1 career and working through normal reversing, blindside in open spaces is a long way off for me as it feels alien at the mo, but your pointers in a previous vid was helpful and has helped me pick up faster.
You are doing the correct process with your own notes. It will all come together then the world is your oyster. Great thing about this qualification is you have people that are happy to turn up to work, jump in a company provided vehicle with no insurance, tax or other running costs and moan about their lot.
This gives you a great understanding of how a company actually runs and its realistic costs. Also beneficial if you want to set up on your own.
Awesome vlog as always hayley
loving your videos hayley! i have jumped ship from palletwork to hiab work. opportunity popped up for hiab so grabbed it.
I agree, it's not worth it. you'll technically lose more money having a day off then paying the fine, with the chance of incurring more costs for the court. sometimes, its best to bite the bullet.
Pay the fine ( painfully ) and move 0n because it will cost you and the firm more in lost income if you have to go to court !!. Great vid as usual Hayley.
just pay it oh oh move on x
Great video keep up with the good work and the fine it's all about the money at the end of the day
Hi Hayley I passed my theory and hazard perception yesterday for class 2
I don't blame you Hayley. My sister-in-law's the same as well. She can't stand driving through road works especially where there are temporary traffic lights that are usually on Stop longer than the conventional variety that we as a nation are no doubt accustomed to the use of and have been for decades.
A few years ago, I got caught up in gridlock on M6. After it cleared I went to next services which was full, so parked up on exit with several others. After about 10 min a cop banged the door and told me "Drive' you cant park here. Motorway regulations. If over hours go to next safe/legal area."
I replied " I am very tired. I need a 30 min powernap"
Cop replied "ok fair enough, don't be here after 30 min"
First off, ironically where your video finished on the opposite side is where I had my 'brush' with the Police as I unfortunately sideswiped a Police officer, (not my fault! Honest) in an undercover car. Not published yet! Typical of GMP to send you a letter covered with blood! I watched the end time lapse at quarter speed, to enjoy the route and to see if I passed you anywhere. I knew what was coming, Greenfield station junction, as soon as you went right off the A635. If you had followed the A635 it would have brought you onto the same road but a mile further back. The TM course, the things I struggled with was the costings, it was miles, as Kilometres had not been invented back then! 🤣🤣 Great video Hayley and don't fret the course work will become more understandable as you start to think as a manager where every decision you make could be career ending! Sorry about that but it's actually true. All the best.
the coarse looks hard to go for. at least you have the confidence to do it and if you dont carry on driving you will miss all that beautiful scenery that you went through
Hi Hayley, some of the topics you are covering in your TM CPC are similar to what I covered with my Farm records and accounts course years ago, depreciation, running costs etc. My daughter is good with maths and she came in as you were reading out your task figures and said if I had those figures written down I could probably do that😂😂 she is 14 and is aiming to get her C+E licence when she is old enough, me I will stay driving, can't stand being stuck indoors
Reversing is getting perfect. Regarding the parking fine, just pay it and move on. As long as you don’t get points. If you go to court it could escalate and you have to pay court costs.
Nice one again Hayley good luck and just stick with the job for now and gain those qualifications for the transport management cpc and I have to say I don't know what happened to the sound towards the end of the vlog you sounded like a darlick lol 😀
You needed to use the loo if I recall. That would seem to be a valid reason to stop there as a type of emergency
Hi Hayley, sorry to hear about your predicament with the slip road stop and the interaction with the constable. 2 points. Firstly. The notice of intended prosecution is provided in law so as to “ remind “ a person that a certain offence took place at a certain time at a certain location with a certain vehicle. The NIP letter has to be served on the driver OR the owner or registered keeper of the vehicle within 14 days. However, where the alleged offence is brought to the attention of the driver AT THE TIME of the offence the NIP is given verbally by the constable, no 14 day requirement here. Secondly….the offence that is alleged in your case does not fall within the requirements of the issuing of an NIP. An NIP is not required here. This is a summary non endorsable offence .There won’t be a record on your driving licence …just put this into your experience folder.
If you type in to Google offences that do require an NIP they are easy to find and include “ dangerous driving, failing to conform to certain traffic signs and signals, speeding etc.
Take care Hayley, keep honing your craft..hope this helps with your decision making .
Kind regards
Phil
hello well done your doing great from norwich
I pAssed my CPC a while ago, no one wants to give me a decent job in an office. Good job I don't mind sitting in traffic jams, as long as i get paid!
Sorry to hear about the ticket. Best pay up and damn their impudence. If you take it to court they will find you guilty and add costs to the penalty. I'm wondering if all the foreign truckers get the same treatment for parking in the same circumstances and under the motorway bridges. Probably not as there is a language barrier and they can't be easily chased for non payment. Thanks for the update on the TM CPC course.
Hi Hayley, can you tell us some tips how to backup a tractor trailer. How you coup up this is issue so fast. thanks
Love the way you talk Hayley, are you from the West Midlands?
How about going for PSV license. Nice to have a change doing bus work. I enjoy doing the two.
Yeah i'm afraid you got to bite the bullet and pay. I parked on the slip road at woolly edge years ago (along with four other trucks) and got a fixed penalty, £30 at the time, I explained to the officer I couldn't get in the services and the only parking was in the coach park, which has 'no parking and fixed penalty' signs all over it, he said I should have parked there and still issued a ticket, you can't win!. Amazing that they don't hassle the foreign registered trucks but target us, guess its because they know the ticket just gets lobbed out the window the minute they get going..😄
Messed up on my class 1 driving exam cut the lorry too early and hit a cone in the road. After that I knew I’d failed & just went downhill after that.
At 8:33 i always panic when i don't hear my DAF warning tones. These beeps give me confidence. lol
The "Notice of Intended Prosecution" MUST be delivered within 14 days otherwise it is invalid. Check with a Solicitor. I reckon the Police will lose this one.
It must be issued, not delivered, within 14 days.
Doesnt apply in this case as the officer informed her at the time.
Hello m
NIP is only for camera, congestion charge offence etc etc. If notified by an officer on the side of the road they have 6 months to process you.
Hi when you say you like the earlier start 4,5 am start ,,there is only one answer set your alarm early and get up ,, shift your focus and get up ,,,
I just hope that joke of a policeman has watched and read the comments on this as he was an idiot and definitely could have used his discretion but obviously he's power mad ffs,I think you won't appeal it but you should have your day in court but understand if you don't,great video,cheers
Remind me of my ex, she's a headmistress now but years ago she was brilliant with all things academic, such as notes, making lists and being organised where as i am useless, it just makes my head hurt hee hee
As you say it might not be worth the hassle, but there might be a technicality to be found here as I wouldn't call where you stopped the Hard shoulder, it was hatched markings, that doesn't mean you were aloud to park there, you shouldn't have crossed the solid white line, but it might be worth looking in to.
If you are finding the long distance boring it might be worth trying working for a pallet network. I know most people don't like the idea of multidrop, but it will keep you local, there will be plenty of variety in your day, but also plenty of regular drops so its not all new customers and not knowing what you are doing, and where you are going.
Also I have my Hiab license, mostly working for building suppliers, again keeps you pretty local, doing your own deliveries with the crane is more interesting than just driving, and its mostly residential deliveries which it keeps you on your toes, no where near as boring as 3 hours on the same stretch of motorway. There will be some building site work which I know you have said you don't like, but it's honestly not that much as they tend to use the larger suppliers and buy in bulk.
I still work for an agency so I switch between class 1 and class 2 Hiab, and I like the variety of that.
I was just down the road from Onboard yesterday morning at Watery Lane Industrial Estate and saw 3 Onboard trucks, but didn't spot you unfortunately, I was keeping an eye out though. Love the videos, your doing a great job!
It is classed as a 'hard' shoulder and are not allowed to park.
@@SteveMrW OK fair enough, thanks
I saw a Kay Transport lorry in colchester today thought it was you but it was a bloke driving lol.
Might be worth going to court, you'll either get off, or they'll lock you up for ten years. My wife started to have a seizure in the car, and I was done for speeding. I wrote to them explaining the situation, and they just said that's no excuse. They all just love the power.
I always thought you must receive the fine within 14 days of the offence otherwise its not valid check with a solicitor ??
Good morning trucker Hayley you was turning right buy shel in Wolverhampton l, you was going back to your yard
Is it net profit before tax is minus fixed assets, minus current assets minus current liabilities
Tell them you are going too court , chances are you will get a letter saying “ letting you off this time don’t do it again” as I did for tinted windows in my car
Just pay it, you’ve bigger fish to fry, concentrate your efforts on the TMCPC, the guy who pulled you was clearly a jobs worth, its really not worth any more of your time or energy, your record is still clean as the FPN doesn’t carry points.
Hayley how can a school run mum be a qualified person for a operators license with out having a hgv license it is a requirement?. Plus how can this company make you a suitable person when they not even the dvsa which the theory of the cpc is taken?.
Loving your videos, however, it is a non endorsable parking ticket. I would pay it and move on as it is not worth the stress and hassle.
thats a daff .. the same alarm on my old truck
Just pay it, and forget about it best thing to do 😊 and carry on
I did in the end, it wasn't worth it 😊👍🏻
0:40 I delivered construction materials to that site on your right
What happens if you refuse to accept the "conditional offer of a FPN"
I, and people I know, have failed to respond to FPNs and nothing becomes of it. Now I chuck um in the bin. Not saying it works for everyone or is the right thing to do.
If you're fed up driving, try a helicopter / PPL next
Have you considered HIAB/ALLMI, MOFFETT, PCV
How about CPC instructor, or apprentice end point assessor, how about moving abnormal loads and having the traffic stopped for you (which may actually mean nights out)
What happens if you refuse to accept the "conditional offer of a FPN" - it gets dealt with in court
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Pay the £50 and move on . Or just say you were at a downing street party earlier and the law doesn't apply.
The DVSA or what ever they call themselves this month use that name as a cover for actually being the Gestapo (allegedly)
if it happens again just say a brake warning light has come on and you are waiting for assistance.
I hayley hope you are well.good luck with your coarse I hope you can catch up.is it possible to use your Mike on your phone and record your voice And do print outs.can you do that.i think you should put all your knowledge together and work for your self part time first.once you have got three years in trucking you could teach and hire a truck for some delivers and to teach people as well in that truck.plus you will have a managers back ground.i hope I have not been talking rubbish take care and happy studying phil.
Hi. I’m a class one driver. Had to park on petrol station forecourt overnight due to accident recently. Guy in shop called police because I was seen on cctv putting litter into a bin. He said to police that it looked suspicious. I had to take breath test and the usual bullshit. Passed everything. Now got a letter as the police want me to take a new medical. Absolute joke.
I am led to believe that DUFF trucks are now fitted with diagnostic electronics systems manufactured by the Ree Lee Carp Chite corporation,located somewhere in China.....and every morning,when I get my free Blackpool Illuminations preview in my cab,I realise just how lucky I am that I don't drive a Scanny,Man,Volvo etc; 🤣
I have seen foreign lorries parked on slip road and don’t know if police do fine them?? It seems they almost park anywhere and don’t give a ………….
Appeal, especially if you "didn't admit guilt," like the officer acused you of.
If you were tired, and out of time, much better to stop than carry on driving, in my opion.
Good look Hayley.
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Fight it
Well l would pay the fine then drop a letter online and warn other truckers not to stop where you stopped but try and reach a truck yard or services then if the law stop you again at any time tell them to look at their officers driving their police cars on the motorway they pull up hard shoulders even if not on emergencies they are just normal people but only in Queens uniform some officers are just kerrupt and bent
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microphone near an open window isn't great lol....sometimes you have to grin and bear it, go with your gut feeling and you'll find the job your happy in
Dear sir/madam.....Ignore the twats and don't accept anything as it's a contract and don't accept it.
Pay it.
MDR is French for pmsl! : D
I see your starting to moan about queues, running late, especially on Fridays, RTC, things not going to plan, welcome to the world of lorry driving Hayley mate, months ago I was a dream of yours to do all this, it is nice running about your own town only 30/60mins away from home, not this 2/3hrs to get home but already got to wait 2/3 hrs to drop last load before u get to do the 2/3hrs run home, patience, patience, patience, that's the 1st thing u have to learn. But beats standing on aline or in ur case sat in front kids, I know wot I'd want!! Your asking yourself wot to do, I think you need local runs, like building merchants/ concrete mixer, but they both cud involve getting dirty and from your last building site job you didn't like gettimg dirty, not sure wot other local driving jobs there are, postwoman or go into the forces, your still young, travel the world, get to see places, do like my old man, tank Transporter/recovery or heavy haulage something different every job...
I'm only 8 mins in to this vid but my feeling is pay it and see if you transport manager will give you the money back , the reason I say this is because its possible his name may be on the operators licence and no body wants an amber or red on that , had you got an infringement . All the best
i thought that the police had to contact you within 14 days or they cant go through with it
Nip is invalid if not served within 14days of offence..no exceptions
Ohh that’s you officially a criminal 😂
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Look Hayley, just pay the £50. Pay it a move on points free as It will only cost more fighting it. Don’t be silly.
ADR will really fry your head. Mick
Take them too task I think you would win in court and the police would have to pay your cost if they loose I believe
Don’t let the basterds beat you
You made the choice in the interests of complying with the law s and in the front interest of public safety
I recon my barrister would beat them
Next time you’re pulled over by any authority Haley make sure you film everything, covertly if possible.
If the police officer actively encouraged you to break tacho laws which are in place to PREVENT catastrophic accidents due to tiredness, then that should be entered into evidence for a court to hear.
That rule about covert filming applies to organisations, not private individuals so you can film covertly and it be admissible as long as you are in a public space at the time. The officer however, is representing an organisation so has to tell you that you are being filmed for evidential purposes. They tend to get a bit uppity about being filmed (depending on the officer, there are some who know and understand your right to film them and some who really don't!) so covertly can save you some hassle. But they cannot legally stop you filming them, you can report them and claim a tiny bit of compensation if they do.
@slimeyclimey1 If you are recording as an organisation, then whatever the situation, you are bound by the relevant legislation, so yes, absolutely best advised to keep to both the spirit and letter of the law. However, as a private individual, using a private device (ie own phone) who happens to be at work at the time, you are not recording on behalf of your employer, your employer doesn't and won't own the data, so you are governed by the same rules as you would be if you were outside your house on a Sunday morning. But when dealing with the authorities, you have no duty to declare if you're recording. That said, I'm not a solicitor and am not aware of the cases you mention which have been affected by covert filming. That said, I would imagine it has more to do with dishing out threats etc from what you put in your comment? Also, as fines and other enforcement costs are considered personal responsibility (ie you can't offset your parking fine against tax if you're self employed), even for an owner driver like me, it's me, personally, recording my interaction with the officer not my company. If however, your company has a policy that if you're pulled over you must record your interaction and hand over the video, then you are representing your organisation and covert recording would be either inadmissible or detrimental to a future case. But in either case, if you are in a public space, you can record anything you can see - even into someone's living room - without breaking any laws.
As long as you are in a public place you can film. There is no requirement in law to tell anyone you are filming.
If you get tugged again for having to do the same Do a DAILY Print from the tacho and have the officer sign the back stating they are moving you on. Generally that shuts them up quicker than anything else because if you were to be involved in an RTC after them moving you on the officer can become liable... It also satisfies the ministry.
Ask DeDedede the guy who knows all typical northern knobx
Think your getting deady,s symptoms.!!!
Glad you got fined. Deserved
Knob ed
Hello m
WHy be a Transport Manager, you seem too do realy well as a driver...... Some people were ment to be drivers and some were ent to be managers......( 30 year US road driver / pervious Owner-Operator of my own truck )
Its only £50 I guess you may as well just pay
Just pay it, not worth the agro. Your know yourself you should have found somewhere else to park. Call it lesson learned and move on.
Dont take it to court, you will lose. In the eyes of the law the offence was committed, although really that officer was completely unreasonable and should have just moved you on to somewhere else.
Birch is less than 2mile from me. I know where you got had, you where got by a twat! You should have contested it! Unless you are on the pubic highway, copper has no jurisdiction. Birch Services are private land! They like fishing, and try to get you to admit to offences they can levy a fine for...