i dont want to be that guy but same could be said for the dude, he said i was used to it and didnt think anything was wrong with her coming into his house and room and touching his privates?? he didnt think much of it? he thought it was normal? dude ur a freaking young adult.. almost sounds like somebody googled stuff and wrote a script... i wouldn't take sides with these people they just use each other and try to leach of each other to just get views and stay relevant fyi not defending the chick at all dont know her or him and dont care about them i dont do social media yt is all about i have and discord...
It's pretty smart isn't it? we already know sienna and the dance, so we'd be unlikely to click on a vid with her bc we know all about what went down. But place a different person on the front and allude to sienna, people get a strange nostalgia feeling with the name, but not make the connection with the visual. So, it makes you click on the video, but by the time you learn it is on the dance apology girl, then sunk cost fallacy, not caring to change it, or just pure laziness kick in and you end up watching the video.
I absolutely cannot stand the stigma around victims of SA or any kind of abuse where if they don't say anything or press charges, obviously that means nothing happened. It's a stupid conclusion and needs to end...
Cody Ko making the decision to completely ignore the allegations and never even responding is probably the smartest choice because it seems like every time a youtuber makes an apology it completely kills their career.
Ellen apologised for what was happening behind the scenes on The Ellen Show. She is just a stalker. Unfortunately I have a stalker. Who will not leave me alone or get the message that what we had is over. The person has caused me to fall in a deep depression. I am not scared of the person but, it wears you down mentally.
if this is true im so sorry you need to contact the police because stalking is a crime at least in the united states. i wish the best for you and hope this gets handled in the correct manner. i cant imagine what your going through
She could have made an apology stating that she's so young and this is her first love, right away. Show remorse from the start and this would have been forgotten before it became so big of a story. It wouldn't be appropriate for her to get away with = but I think the internet would have given a young, remorseful girl a break - without the dance. And trying to bully the situation with CSI experts and lawyers on a podcast is not a good look Cheers!!
It's pretty smart isn't it? we already know sienna and the dance, so we'd be unlikely to click on a vid with her bc we know all about what went down. But place a different person on the front and allude to sienna, people get a strange nostalgia feeling with the name, but not make the connection with the visual. So, it makes you click on the video, but by the time you learn it is on the dance apology girl, then sunk cost fallacy, not caring to change it, or just pure laziness kick in and you end up watching the video.
Everything else aside, the whole merch with the "did you eat today" thing on it was VERY clearly not meant in some kind of fun poking or malicious way, and the fact that modern society has got to that point where people are fucking offended by things they could see aren't meant to be offensive if they just used their single fucking brain cell for literally 2 seconds is absolutely infuriating. Intention is the only thing that matters, if people choose to get offended by something you didn't mean to be offensive, that's their own problem not yours and you absolutely should not change what you're doing just because of their misunderstandings. Fuck modern snowflakes, grow a spine, use your braincells.
they say the road to hell is paved w good intentions. your intentions actually **don't** matter if you're harming people. Impact will always be more important than intent. just a silly example, but if you bump into someone or knock them over on accident, you still apologize and help them up or make sure they're ok even though you didn't intend to harm them. saying 'oh that's your own problem, not mine' is something a child would do.
@@lacey892 Sure, but you're not going to apologise and stop walking near people just because you might bump into one. You can be a nice person about it and help them up but it doesn't mean you need to stop what you're doing. The person you knocked over can just use their brain for a second and understand that it wasn't done maliciously and is not intended to be malicious. In the example this video gives there was absolutely no need to stop selling the merch, that slogan is always used in a positive manner that any English speaker would immediately understand, so catering to people that get offended by something that is CLEARLY not offensive is not the move. Otherwise we are going to transition to a world where we have to triple check literally every word we publish for every possible niche offense to a population that has become so sheltered they are offended by literally everything. It needs to stop.
Ignorant ass comment. "I don't know who she is, so she isn't famous" Oh, yeah, sorry overlord that you don't deem her to be a superstar because you don't know her.
Yea this situation is just strange. This jack guy sounds like a clout chaser. If he didnt like her then he needed to stop collaborating with her and cut her out of his life and move on. It seems he led her on. Sienna sounds like an idiot and should have cut him out. A guy that doesnt fight for ur relationship or proudly claim it, is just playing games and should be avoided. What she did was gross but he gave mixed messages - u cannot deny that. Their both stupid.
he did not give her mixed messages.. as soon as the cameras were off they weren't in that kinda relationship. sure he did do it for clout but so did she, it was a mutual agreement and he expressed to her many times that he was not into her that way, he was not leading her on, she was just clingy and persistent, choosing to ignore his feelings and manipulate him. also i have a very high suspicion you would not be saying the same if the roles were reversed. it's very disgusting that men being assaulted do not receive the same amount of support and sympathy
I've been kissed by EVERY girl I've been with or kinda been with while I was asleep. I've been kissed by girls that i was never in any type of relationship while I was asleep... ffs I've been "assaulted" so many times 😂 Bro really being bullied by a girl half his size though But I'll say this... if I had a chick tryna do some wild shit and I felt like he says he did I would stop being around her all together (I've had to do it before and still havent talked to them since) But if she did this shit in the last year he would be in jail already for turning her down... oh and he would be labeled as a racist 😂
that's the thing, he was not with her. you need a prior mutual understanding between one another about your boundaries if you're gonna kiss someone while they're unconscious. which he did express time and time again what his boundaries with her were and she just ignored them every time. besides if it's that easy to get away from a bad relationship we would not have people who stick with their abusers at all... it's not that simple
I mean, it's two teenagers that enabled each other and didn't take the actions you should, and neither did any supervisor like their parents, neither side had much in terms of real proof outside of saying "x did this" with the only thing being that (clearly her doing something wrong) video. Yet, if she kept doing what he said, he shouldn't even have entertained the "relationship roleplay" for the videos, since she clearly developed an unhealthy obsession with him for a while according to his statements, it's a difficult situation since there are some serious allegations and parts to it, but also a lot of kindergarten where they should have handled it with the legal system, or private, instead of a back and forth online. So I assume Charlie is just thinking "damn, this whole situation is just stupid" but not meaning it is not serious, because it is stupid, as no real and official action was ever taken when this situation was only possible through both sides enabling it.
Jack is simply a little girl. If he truly didn’t like her that way he’d have set boundaries with her AT ANY POINT. instead he led her on by kissing her and letting her kiss him. If he was truly unconscious then yeah that’s her bad but so much of this is on him as well.
@@collinashley7116 That’s victim blaming and quite frankly misogynistic. Boys can be victims to girls too. And they’re teenagers, so his boundary lines weren’t as strong as they could be. Hopefully you’ll understand that when you’re older.
I hate say but I also kinda see what she means when he moves his hand while "unconscious" on the couch. It looks like his hand lifts before his friend gets up
OMG the young girl took her clothes off in front of you? Oh what terrible abuse you suffered. Wow this is a struggle no human being should ever be put through.
If you can live through 16+ plus years and still not understand the concept of personal space, theres obviously no hope they learnt anything
Til British people use learnt instead of learned. So they are both proper English.
@cheecheetara I'm confused did I use the word learnt wrong?
@@cheecheetara or were you replying to someone else
@@cheecheetara grammar police never stop
i dont want to be that guy but same could be said for the dude, he said i was used to it and didnt think anything was wrong with her coming into his house and room and touching his privates?? he didnt think much of it? he thought it was normal? dude ur a freaking young adult.. almost sounds like somebody googled stuff and wrote a script... i wouldn't take sides with these people they just use each other and try to leach of each other to just get views and stay relevant
fyi not defending the chick at all dont know her or him and dont care about them i dont do social media yt is all about i have and discord...
she was WILD for the edits and dance in her UA-cam apology lol
😢aaàaaÀ
that thumbnail is not sienna LMAO i was so confused
It's pretty smart isn't it? we already know sienna and the dance, so we'd be unlikely to click on a vid with her bc we know all about what went down. But place a different person on the front and allude to sienna, people get a strange nostalgia feeling with the name, but not make the connection with the visual. So, it makes you click on the video, but by the time you learn it is on the dance apology girl, then sunk cost fallacy, not caring to change it, or just pure laziness kick in and you end up watching the video.
I remember when this first happened its was like the dramagedon of the tiktok community.
I absolutely cannot stand the stigma around victims of SA or any kind of abuse where if they don't say anything or press charges, obviously that means nothing happened. It's a stupid conclusion and needs to end...
Cody Ko making the decision to completely ignore the allegations and never even responding is probably the smartest choice because it seems like every time a youtuber makes an apology it completely kills their career.
Unless it’s there again though, his channel is totally gone.
Ellen apologised for what was happening behind the scenes on The Ellen Show. She is just a stalker. Unfortunately I have a stalker. Who will not leave me alone or get the message that what we had is over. The person has caused me to fall in a deep depression. I am not scared of the person but, it wears you down mentally.
if this is true im so sorry you need to contact the police because stalking is a crime at least in the united states. i wish the best for you and hope this gets handled in the correct manner. i cant imagine what your going through
Sh*t happens, ive had it with multiple people over the last 10years (I'm now almost 23)
@@quaalude..
Wishing you all the best on getting away from your stalker 🙏❤️
Apologies doesn't fix things
@@quaalude..had a friend deal with a stalker (US) they wont do anything unless the stalkers has actually physically done something
She could have made an apology stating that she's so young and this is her first love, right away. Show remorse from the start and this would have been forgotten before it became so big of a story. It wouldn't be appropriate for her to get away with = but I think the internet would have given a young, remorseful girl a break - without the dance. And trying to bully the situation with CSI experts and lawyers on a podcast is not a good look Cheers!!
Isn’t the thumbnail Addison Rae ?
yes
@@thereisbugsinmyskinthank god I was beginning to think I have face blindness
literally
I watched the whole video, and I still dont know the difference. Theyre all the exact same boring person.
It's pretty smart isn't it? we already know sienna and the dance, so we'd be unlikely to click on a vid with her bc we know all about what went down. But place a different person on the front and allude to sienna, people get a strange nostalgia feeling with the name, but not make the connection with the visual. So, it makes you click on the video, but by the time you learn it is on the dance apology girl, then sunk cost fallacy, not caring to change it, or just pure laziness kick in and you end up watching the video.
Bro real life yanderes seem very scary.
I love watching liars eyes blink like crazy Everytime they say a lie
Never apologize with performance.
So basically, he didnt like her and she refused to take no for an answer.
This is what happens when your parents give you whatever you want.
there's a clear line between freaky and sex offender
Dang, I forgot Twitch killed himself until Charlie brought up the videos about Ellen😢.
Everything else aside, the whole merch with the "did you eat today" thing on it was VERY clearly not meant in some kind of fun poking or malicious way, and the fact that modern society has got to that point where people are fucking offended by things they could see aren't meant to be offensive if they just used their single fucking brain cell for literally 2 seconds is absolutely infuriating. Intention is the only thing that matters, if people choose to get offended by something you didn't mean to be offensive, that's their own problem not yours and you absolutely should not change what you're doing just because of their misunderstandings. Fuck modern snowflakes, grow a spine, use your braincells.
they say the road to hell is paved w good intentions. your intentions actually **don't** matter if you're harming people. Impact will always be more important than intent.
just a silly example, but if you bump into someone or knock them over on accident, you still apologize and help them up or make sure they're ok even though you didn't intend to harm them. saying 'oh that's your own problem, not mine' is something a child would do.
@@lacey892 Sure, but you're not going to apologise and stop walking near people just because you might bump into one. You can be a nice person about it and help them up but it doesn't mean you need to stop what you're doing. The person you knocked over can just use their brain for a second and understand that it wasn't done maliciously and is not intended to be malicious. In the example this video gives there was absolutely no need to stop selling the merch, that slogan is always used in a positive manner that any English speaker would immediately understand, so catering to people that get offended by something that is CLEARLY not offensive is not the move. Otherwise we are going to transition to a world where we have to triple check literally every word we publish for every possible niche offense to a population that has become so sheltered they are offended by literally everything. It needs to stop.
@lacey892 there was nothing harmful about that.
How, as a parent, do you raise someone so... Strangely for them to have this mindset? Like...
Man I miss the days of no ads
I agree with the paparazzi take
ive literally never heard her name in my life so she definitely aint no superstar
Ignorant ass comment.
"I don't know who she is, so she isn't famous"
Oh, yeah, sorry overlord that you don't deem her to be a superstar because you don't know her.
Kissing him while he was asleep? lol
Also Jesus on Meth when he met her "You are incredible I am your biggest fan" 💀💀
Paparazzi get the scoop on secrets.
This is wild
I have no clue who any of these people are
Did anyone tried to scrape this thing 14:18 off ur monitor
The dirt on the right
A gomez. I’m a gomez.
My dad must have been a sloot
Why would he have his hand firmly on his friend’s shoulder while making out with a girl?
I watch you all the time, Charlie, ily and I pray a hedge of protection over you and your loved loved ones🖤🕊
Being thin is not an eating disorder.
It can be tho
what?
You scanner throw videos just like me..🤭😅
and i have Surfshark already,best proxy server!..⚜🔱👑🔱⚜
you got my SUB!.🔱🌠💫💝💫🌠🔱
24:48 lol😭lol
Charlie d'amelio is everything aside a celebrity
Yea this situation is just strange. This jack guy sounds like a clout chaser. If he didnt like her then he needed to stop collaborating with her and cut her out of his life and move on. It seems he led her on. Sienna sounds like an idiot and should have cut him out. A guy that doesnt fight for ur relationship or proudly claim it, is just playing games and should be avoided. What she did was gross but he gave mixed messages - u cannot deny that. Their both stupid.
he did not give her mixed messages.. as soon as the cameras were off they weren't in that kinda relationship. sure he did do it for clout but so did she, it was a mutual agreement and he expressed to her many times that he was not into her that way, he was not leading her on, she was just clingy and persistent, choosing to ignore his feelings and manipulate him. also i have a very high suspicion you would not be saying the same if the roles were reversed. it's very disgusting that men being assaulted do not receive the same amount of support and sympathy
Get help. Seriously.
I've been kissed by EVERY girl I've been with or kinda been with while I was asleep. I've been kissed by girls that i was never in any type of relationship while I was asleep... ffs I've been "assaulted" so many times 😂
Bro really being bullied by a girl half his size though
But I'll say this... if I had a chick tryna do some wild shit and I felt like he says he did I would stop being around her all together (I've had to do it before and still havent talked to them since)
But if she did this shit in the last year he would be in jail already for turning her down... oh and he would be labeled as a racist 😂
Youve never had a legitimate relationship with a woman
that's the thing, he was not with her. you need a prior mutual understanding between one another about your boundaries if you're gonna kiss someone while they're unconscious. which he did express time and time again what his boundaries with her were and she just ignored them every time. besides if it's that easy to get away from a bad relationship we would not have people who stick with their abusers at all... it's not that simple
Get help. You're not okay in the head.
35 minutes into the video, and all Charlie has done is poke fun at the situation. Sad to see this wasn't taken seriously at all
Dont watch youtube if you are that fragile then
the internet might not be for you
Avoiding your triggers is only making them worse
I don’t know what you expected him to do. He barely said anything.
I mean, it's two teenagers that enabled each other and didn't take the actions you should, and neither did any supervisor like their parents, neither side had much in terms of real proof outside of saying "x did this" with the only thing being that (clearly her doing something wrong) video.
Yet, if she kept doing what he said, he shouldn't even have entertained the "relationship roleplay" for the videos, since she clearly developed an unhealthy obsession with him for a while according to his statements, it's a difficult situation since there are some serious allegations and parts to it, but also a lot of kindergarten where they should have handled it with the legal system, or private, instead of a back and forth online.
So I assume Charlie is just thinking "damn, this whole situation is just stupid" but not meaning it is not serious, because it is stupid, as no real and official action was ever taken when this situation was only possible through both sides enabling it.
Jack is simply a little girl. If he truly didn’t like her that way he’d have set boundaries with her AT ANY POINT. instead he led her on by kissing her and letting her kiss him. If he was truly unconscious then yeah that’s her bad but so much of this is on him as well.
This mindset is exactly why male victims are not taken seriously
Absolutely not. This is victim blaming.
Yes cause he is partially to blame. If he’d have been definitive at ANY point he wouldn’t have been a victim at all
@@collinashley7116 That’s victim blaming and quite frankly misogynistic. Boys can be victims to girls too. And they’re teenagers, so his boundary lines weren’t as strong as they could be. Hopefully you’ll understand that when you’re older.
I hate say but I also kinda see what she means when he moves his hand while "unconscious" on the couch. It looks like his hand lifts before his friend gets up
OMG the young girl took her clothes off in front of you? Oh what terrible abuse you suffered. Wow this is a struggle no human being should ever be put through.
Not everyone is a weirdo like you who only cares about sex jose some people don't wanna be touched when they aren't aware
and you saying young girl is weird af LOL
" Young girl" they're the same age weirdo. 😂😂
@@Velvet.323 So she is not young? Ok. He is suffering tremendous abuse at the hands of a middle aged female. Is this more accurate? weirdo.
just bc you'd love for it to happen to you doesn't mean what she did is ok you fuckin weirdo