As a parent, this is really sad. Not that she didn't get in, but that kids are supposed to dedicate their entire high school career into getting into a university. If my kids (who are still in elementary school) get into an Ivy league school, I'll be thrilled. But... I would much rather my kids spend their high school years on activities that bring them joy. If that gets them into a top school, great. If not, it doesn't matter. There's more to life than getting into Stanford.
@@lauraannemarienoel2600 I'm not sure what to think about that. I suspect most kids would love to go to an Ivy (not just many). However, going to an Ivy isn't an end unto itself. You go there in order to further some other goal. It's supposed to help you to pursue some other passion. Surely the thing to do in high school is to go after that passion directly. Maybe that will gain you admission into a great school or maybe it won't, but you'll be closer to your actual dream than if you organize your life around what you think the school wants you to be.
@@lauraannemarienoel2600 If my kids choose to dedicate four years into getting into a single school, I won't stop them. But it's my job as parent to try to guide them to something better when I see them making a mistake. At the very least, I'd make sure they were aware of the hundreds of other options that might provide just as good or even better student experience than Stanford.
(this is coming from a simple High School Sophomore, i may have misunderstood some stuff) How I personally like to look at college applications is that in High School, you do whatever you want to do. I feel like a bad mindset to have with it is to think about it as "I NEED to do this so I can get into a good college" Rather I feel like it should be about something you enjoy doing, building a sort of unique experience to help you when you do pursue higher education of your desired field. I agree with what you said, it is definitely twisted for high school students to have such high expectations to go to good colleges and do extremely life changing stuff in their teenage years. However, I think it can be a great thing when it is simply is born from their own passion. Personally I like to look at it like this: Do some fun and great stuff in your High School Years - A) Get into a Top College - Great! You made your goal, and you can get a great form of education. B) Get Rejected from a Top/Dream School - Sad, but at least you gained some incredible experience in your high school years related to your major! Also top colleges can be extremely overrated. Yes they can be some of the greatest institutions in the world, but even then that doesn't mean much. It's really more so about what you do at the college. Summarizing this, I just feel like there just needs to be a better mindset going into college applications.
@@ezakt I think that's pretty much right. Another thing that you should remember is that "top college" depends a lot on what you specifically want to do, and you have a ton of choices nowadays. Also, the top US universities are actually pretty small. Stanford takes in about 1700 students per year. That's nothing. If you're interested in (for example) medicine, University of Toronto is ranked higher for medicine and takes in about 17,000 students. There are a lot of other things to take into account as well. You're going to be there for at least four years. What's the city like? Are there interesting clubs for you to join? You can also construct your own awesome experience, no matter where you go. You've got four months free every summer. You could enter a student vacation/travel program and work in Australia or something like that. There are just so many possibilities that go beyond getting into a particular school.
I've talked to someone on the admissions board here, and one thing that stood out to me was that they can tell when applicants read the book of successful Stanford application essays, and they can tell when you are writing what you think sounds good. They don't want to hear what you *think* they want to hear, they are looking for something different. It's all about those essay questions. A few years ago, they even brought in special resources for a student because her academics weren't up to "standard," but they were so moved by her essay (about her cat) that they let her in on a trial basis. They brought in tutors specifically for her, because her background made it hard to keep up with traditional academics. You can ask the guy that works at the bookstore (one of main employees that has been there for a long time), just ask him to tell you about the girl who wrote the essay about her cat. ---Back to the main point: You don't know what they are looking for, so you have to be willing to be vulnerable in your writing. On top of that, you need a bit of luck, because we've all seen brilliant students get turned away here. That's why I find all of these "how I got in" or "why I didn't get in" videos to be mostly unhelpful, because you never know what is going to resonate with the panel that year.
seems way too arbitrary, the girl and the cat story just makes me hate the elite assholes that much more if it is even true. F'ing Lame treating kids that work their asses off like their efforts are meaningless.
This is so much bullshit. People pay through their nose to get essays edited and written, who are they kidding? They can smell the money 💰 and offer admission on basis of 1 essay, ignoring all hard work? That's so fake. Sat scores don't count, nor does gpa, but 1 essay? What a joke
6:34 I just wanna point smth out here since you sort of glossed over it: PROMYS is insane. Like, aside from MOP and maybe Ross, it is the most prestigious math camp in the country by quite a bit, and is extremely rigoroous and selective. Sure, it's not consistent, but it's a summer camp so it doesn't have to be, and it's easily the most impressive thing on her application.
If you're looking for extra activities that link to your subjects, ask your teachers for "super-curriculars" (some schools have them, some don't). A super-curricular is a list of competitions, podcasts, posters, books etc that you do to further your understanding.
Bro, you might have some valid points but you can never justify the US private elite colleges 'holistic' admission." It is pointless to argue that US college admissions are actually fair or actually consider a rationale while making a decision. Yeah, they do consider a sat score and GPA for shortlisting maybe some extracurricular as well, but definitely, they have so many qualified students that they literally have to pick at random. Think about it, will they actually be concerned to use narrow tie-breakers for students? That would be waste of time and resources so obviously, they'll have to pick at random and that pool will be large (maybe 10,000 or so) so you can increase your chances to a minute extent, but in the end, it is all about luck.
Bruh, my brother in christ, at 14:11 you say that everyone thinks they're an expert WHEN THE FIRST WORDS OF THE EXAMPLE COMMENT ARE "I'm definitely no expert". You basically shut down that comment without saying why the take is wrong or uninformed. If you're going to make an example out of a youtube commenter, at least back up your claims with not even evidence but just reasoning, why the take is wrong. No, I don't see what you mean because you're making a claim off a stereotype that you're trying to prove, that all youtube comments are brainless. It's circular logic. Besides, everyone has different experiences, so there are no more "experts" than the average person. What's to say that a student accepted into stanford knows exactly why they got in, and that a student rejected knows exactly why they got rejected? Admissions offices aren't even monoliths, so the advice of one admissions officer may be the exact opposite of what another admissions officer would recommend. Both want to accept students that will go on to do great things, but their ideas of what that student is can be vastly different, even if working towards the same goal. All this to say, the position of a person by itself has no bearing on their level of expertise, only their actual experiences do. You're no more an expert than I am, or that other youtube commenter who said themself "I'm definitely no expert". If you're going to denounce someone, don't do it based solely off of stereotype. It's not fair and it's not right. Be better in the future.
This also reminds me of how, in game criticism, some people say that you can't criticize game design unless if you've made a game yourself. Game developers don't make games for other game developers, they make them for their target audience. The target audience should be the most valuable source of criticism, even moreso than the other game developers. Sure, the target audience doesn't know how the game was made, but they don't need to in order to offer valid criticism of the product.
I feel like the “because I’m Asian” point was missed here it isn’t about givin up tryin less or anythin like that, just the acknowledgment that it’s not the same level of difficulty. It’s fine to be bothered by it as long as you don’t let it cause you to give up.
No, it's that you have the wrong idea entirely about the type of individual that these schools want. Amy is someone that is great at regurgitating information from a textbook without making actual progress in and being innovative in the real world. They want real, hard-working, mature individuals that are leaders and that display passion for what they do. I will bet that her teacher letters are weak and state simply that she earned an A in their course while a quiet student in the class.
@@LuvThyMind29 This is such an unbelievably dumb thing to say. If she was not asian she would have gotten in without a question. Asian kids definitely have a harder time in college admissions and there are so many statistics to back it up. She literally had good ecs too so its not just regurgitating information its performing well, applying things she learned outside of school, and just overall being a great student. If she was black you could chop off 100 from her SAT, chop off like 0.5 from her GPA, take out any placings in national competitions, and she could have gotten in with good essays.
@@iwanttoleave6305 What makes it dumb, (the fact that you don't agree)? With your level of maturity it is no surprise that you didn't get into top programs. She is not memorable, passionate or inspired in any way. Again, the schools are moving away from standardized exams and GPA because neither replicates anything in the real world. These are useless metrics.
@@LuvThyMind29 As an asian applicant yes that is what you need but in the video she was informatively presenting the fact that her being asian hurt her chances at admission. And who said I didn't get into top programs🤣
@@iwanttoleave6305 "And who said I didn't get into top programs" I'm making the assumption from your prior comments....Your arguments are not very sound. The above black applicant that was admitted was simply better than Amy in a different area. You naiively believe the SAT is all that matters. You are wrong.
@@cheesewizard do you understand how much stanford costs? There's so many other factors like wildfires in Cali, the weather, scholarships, tuition, dorms. Obviously you don't understand bro.
So basically I’m cooked if I’m a junior and have no consistent 4 year extracurricular commitment, even though Covid was my freshman year and sophomore year was really more of a freshman year to me
My school was closed both in the end of freshmen year and the entirety of sophomore year, and there was heavy restriction in junior year ; i'm now a senior and basically cooked.
Not all hope is lost! You can always be creative with your essay. The main thing is to prove to the college that you have passions that you want to continue, and how those passions will improve the college's environment/programs in turn. Also, say how COVID affected your academics/extracurriculars, but also say how you pulled through the adversity and still found things to do! COlleges love that.
😂😂 Well now that I know more about Amy, I would say that he's more insufferable and also not a Stanford student, he's apparently at RPI. So what does he know?
Let's be honest. Us college system is broken. No matter how much you try to cover up.. Diversity drive has taken over the need to get in good students. The holistic admission is just quite nonsensical. This just gives pure latitude to anything goes for colleges and they can change criteria at will. Let's be honest, this is a bunch of high school kids, not grown up adults in jobs No body makes adults jump through so many hoops as us colleges do to kids.
i agree with you, except with the diversity drive stuff. people complaining about affirmative action are extremely annoying, most likely cause they have a misunderstanding of what it even is. affirmative action doesnt get a worse student in just because theyre another ethnicity than asian/white or whatever nonsensical belief you might have about it. affirmative action just says "hey, if these two people are basically the same except for ethnicity, maybe favor the minority". it still gets equal skill level students in. dont like that system? too bad, we're dealing with the cards we're dealt.
@@localmilfchaser6938 i understand. ive been thinking about this more, and while i do support affirmative action, im not going to supremely hate on people who dont. its just what you believe. (and yes, im also a minority, look at my name lmao)
@@noveled_1 It's still not completely fair. They're generalizing how a minority lives their life and the experiences they may have such as discrimination or low income, etc. But by generalizing that, what about the exceptions? There can be successful minority students with many opportunities because their parents may be successful. And there can be white students who struggle financially in comparison. And if the chances aren't equal then that's not called fair unless college admissions officers go through the final lineup carefully and not use something uncontrollable like race to determine admission. Even if you give one group of people an extra percent of advantage in a situation where both are otherwise equal, then the other group will lose that 1%. I'm not sure what they expect from the groups that they generalize as non-minorities. If Asian counts, then what do I say? Sorry that I'm born Asian and I've been expected to be good at math and succeed in school? Like sorry that I've worked just as hard as others yet I get a slight disadvantage because people of my race work hard and statistically get into higher ranked schools? That sounds pretty messed up. At least we can agree that we're just going to have to deal with this, regardless of who it's supposed to help. This isn't supposed to sound rude to you specifically, but it's my take especially as someone who's Asian with my own difficulties and watching how people will both be advantaged and disadvantaged because of race out of all things.
Thank you so much for this video, it definitely cleared up a lot of thoughts about college admissions and not to stress so much about. Just follow your passion. Thanks again Preaching P I'm in my sophomore year of high school right now! :)
Admission to those colleges are on some vague requirements of Holistic - which can range from anything from I didn't like your name to anything, and they don't need to explain it to us. Based on such vague criteria, it's hard to accept the admission process as actually legit. Plus add to that the fact that college LOST their diversity admission case which proved they're biased. So we don't know if he really deserves to get in or got in just because that admission officer was in mood for something he had on his resume that day. Too bad these ivies stink of bias.
Exactly, it’s not because you’re Asian. Asians don’t have a harder time for college apps. They all just try to to into ivies. That’s the issue, apply to safeties and falls. Also, it could likely be that they thought her stats were, since if you have so many extracurriculars it would seem fake. It has nothing to do with affirmative action, they want diversity and people with personalities outside of school. also, people try to jazz up the awards or clubs they were into.
It's fun watching videos like this one about young adolescents applying to college in the modern era. Generation Z is probably too young to know of a film called "Orange County" from 2002. The film starred a young Colin Hanks playing a HS senior applying to Stanford. It was hilarious. The film was set in Southern California - Orange County. As for the rejected student, it is still very possible to (1) transfer in as a junior or (2) apply as a graduate student. The latter is actually more ideal because one can apply to multiple departments and also get much better financial aid like a solid fellowship. I also question whether if she would have really liked Stanford if she had gotten in. The Bay Area isn't for everyone. When I was a young teen, I had my heart set on Notre Dame. I found the midwest to have major culture gaps with my rural upbringing on an Arizona Apache Reservation where I am enrolled. The weather was also extremely cold with excessive snow or cold rain much of the year. The socioeconomic challenges and racism with students from the affluent suburbs were also problems. Overall, if I knew back as a teen what I know now it would have been better to wait until graduate school to apply for an elite program far out-of-state. I know a guy who had his whole heart set on Stanford and was accepted. He was from a reservation nearby. The guy was a classic example of a "mismatch" if you know what I mean and never finished. Those "social engineering" programs by admissions committees often didn't work - if you know what I mean. Google "Richard Sanders" of UCLA and "mismatch". I fear YT might block me if I blatantly print it out - lol. But I know you are very intelligent and can read between the lines. I now have five master's degrees and am a PhD student at Arizona State while working as an SDET. Those early years in college after HS were really tough. I never really adjusted to the rigor until graduate school but now do great.
They have classrooms full of kids who "identify" as anything other than a sober, ambitious student, but they won't let Amy in because she "lacks an entrepreneurial spirit?" If that is what is guiding the admissions process to elite colleges we're in big trouble.
I would honestly be more interested if her essay is a bit more thoughtful like make the readers know who you are, why are you interested and some stuff that they would see a potential in you. Common I've seen a lot of brilliant + genius people with a ton of IQ, but not all stands out the way others do, so make yourself something unique and different
Love your video! I have a suggestion. I think it would be really fun and interesting to see your college application! I am currently a freshman, learned a lot from your channel.
Something to say is that the athletics isn't a bad extra-curricular BUT she fails to use recent activities (within the past 1-2 years), and doesn't show IMPACT. For example, " I developed team building which allows me to work in large projects" ( followed by maybe a project she did). I was told my doctors that it doesn't matter what you do ( e.g. call centre experience) it is what you take away from it. For me, i volunteer time to teach badminton, specially to younger children which would show in a medicine application that i have experience with children.
I think you’re discounting the race factor vastly. The current supreme docs show an asian of tier 10-9 (highest tiers) have a 2% chance for admittance vs black students getting 42% chance. That’s race based. Hypothetically, you state in the vid that she is asian and applying as an engineer. Race is a factor not just her major.
the percentages are misinformationalyl presented in a way that highlights the chance when it doesn't talk about the amount of asians versus black students that apply. If you take 2000 asian and black applicants the black applicants have a 5-10% acceptance plus. And that almost definitely comes from the fact that many black applicants with lower SAT and standardized scores are accepted but then you have to factor socioeconomic background and access to tutors and things like that. So in conclusion college admissions is a very convoluted system but even with no race based decisions now it's still going to admit lower SAT scores from lower socioeconomic background which trends to be African American and Hispanic people although it could be anyone
Exactly, it’s not because you’re Asian. Asians don’t have a harder time for college apps. They all just try to to into ivies. That’s the issue, apply to safeties and falls. Also, it could likely be that they thought her stats were, since if you have so many extracurriculars it would seem fake. It has nothing to do with affirmative action, they want diversity and people with personalities outside of school. also, people try to jazz up the awards or clubs they were into. You sound like a liar. There’s like only 6 percent of Asians in America, yet they have a high 30+ percentage population at ivies,
I’m a mom of a high school Senior and I saw her video. I even commented on her video about some of my daughter’s stats. I was interested in hearing your perspective.
Bruh. Not even a stanford student. You're an amplified version of those UA-cam commenters who you say "think they're an expert". Make genuine content please. It's honestly the best way to go if you want to be a lasting UA-camr.
I have to say, you seem quite genuine but your points seemed kinda moot and or regurgitated (almost verbatim) Amy’s points. For example, your point about “not doing things for the sake of college” is one of her later points, where she acknowledges the lack of cohesiveness her activities had and how it posed a detriment to her app. Not to mention, your point on “Asians whining doing them no good” is just wrong (lol), and does nothing but plausibly serve as defense for systemic racial bias in admissions process.
Yeah, he is very conceited in this video. Complaining against racial bias does not mean that you're arguing against the fact that you're asian; it means that you're arguing against systematic issues and discrimination. I don't like his takes partly due to his disregard for students' backgrounds. It's a good video and he brings up good points but its very hard to relate to anything he says.
Thanks for your comment Andrew! I just discovered this video (would it be fun to do a react of the react? 😮) and I agree that P is nice but the Asian part is a little strange. See the following: ua-cam.com/users/shortsCa2ZkMMoH14?feature=share
i also think she actually didn't complain as much about being asian as he makes it seem in this video.. also that comment under Amy's video actually made sense. her resume did seem like she listed too much fluff just for the sake of it.
Asians perform much better than any other racial demographic in standardized testing, and academics, and from findings in the Harvard Lawsuit also display good extracurricular performance, exceeding or matching their white counterparts in Harvard's own extracurricular rating system. and this is one case from 1978, in the University of California public university system.
Asians don’t have a harder time for college apps. They all just try to to into ivies. That’s the issue, apply to safeties and falls. Also, it could likely be that they thought her stats were, since if you have so many extracurriculars it would seem fake. It has nothing to do with affirmative action, they want diversity and people with personalities outside of school.
What did he mean by extracurriculars? Like sports and music? Because I feel like universities look at those to just see how committed you are or determined towards something.
From this video, you seem to be the right person, so I want to ask: What if I'm not from the US but I want to get into an Ivy League college? The grading system in my country is different than the US and I have a hard time calculating my GPA, taking classes like AP or other important stuff. Does this hurt my chances of getting in? Thank you in advance for your answer! :)
4% acceptance rate. Not bias. Nor is she memorable. This is an individual who checked off what she thought she needed to check off to get in; she does not even remember the clubs that she "participated" in. Perhaps a student was accepted in her place who was described as focused and passionate as a student while acting as a parent to their little sibling and paying half of the monthly rent. I've met individuals like Amy that can't get through a research project on their own once in the real world.
@@chukwuebukaamaechi9366thousands of students with national and state level honors, high level leadership positions and dedicated community service? National and State-Level Honors such as what Amy had are hard to replicate. Unless this is over a period of 10 years, this is a profile of a classic Stanford student.
I like how you stated race is not a factor in getting in or not, but when she applied to be a doctor/engineer you like that a hard field to enter because she is Asian . Like You have to be a little realistic, race does have some factor when applying to top colleges, but as you said, it can't be the reason the only reason. Also, half the math achievements she made were pretty unique, something that few people have. Yes, she did not make research papers like you did, but she did have the potential to be great which is something colleges are looking for, so I don't think that was a valid reason why she did not get in. But honestly, the most disappointing thing is how society is making us compete for college admissions because at the end of the day, even if you end up in an Ivy League, Most job interviewers don't care as long as it is a good school.
Do you think its better to do a bs/md program or take the traditional route, I want to explore medicine and health in more ways than one in college ,and I’m worried bsmd might be too strict and planned out for a person like me.
Depends on the school, the program, and your workload. Medicine is tough, and it can be easy to get overwhelmed. Talk to your advisor about how BS/MS works and what classes you need to take (you might need to overload), and if you think you can handle it, go for it. If you can't, that's totally fine, and those extra grad courses will always come in handy if you decide to come back for a full Master's in the future.
Hey …. I do watch vids of @wAmy and her sis @Angel …. They make cool researched content. Especially @wAmy is actually a sweet person to interact …. I’m actually impressed by her.
I'm a senior applying to college and I would recommend applying for international and national awards for things you are passionate about (art, econ, ect.) because thats something i regret not doing jr yr. Think about what major you want to pursue and why and start doing extracurriculars related to it maybe try to get leadership at a school club, START a club (you couldn't join cause it wasn't there), volunteer and try to get at least 100 hours for an organization that relates to you (say for instance you like penpalling then you can send letters to military vets or coding you could help an organization donate laptops and electronics to low-income areas). Also think about if you may have had a longer commitment in the past (like for me I didn't put this on my college apps but I remember that I really wanted guinea pigs so to afford paying for them for the past 7 yrs I have been selling chocolate at the local hospital) and you can phrase it in a way that sound impressive (ex. supporting ___ patients at X hospital by providing them with snacks ___ times a week for __ years using the money raised to care for abandoned guinea pigs or whatever). I think having at least 5 extracurriculars that seem important to you is good enough and obviously winning national awards can make up for the lack of extracurriculars if all your extracurriculars don't seem like you did them just for college. Also I think the writing can really save you! Invest time into your personal statement. Admissions at Dartmoth and Duke have said that your supplements are the most important aspect on your application then its your personal statement, then extracurriculars (which are used to show you can have passion and be committed). Get started on essays early and have at least 2 good editors from the schools you might want to attend read all the supps you submit so you can perfect them (you can also use youtube to see what essays look like for an accepted applicant)
TBH the random comment you read a dumped on ("subhuman IQ") was fairly on point, and is basically saying the same thing you said. Also, you mention Steve Jobs and the Google guys, none of which went to Stanford as undergrads. Full disclosure: I went to Stanford.
hey man idk if you check these old vids, but I am applying to colleges rn. woulda been nice if I'd seen your channel as a freshman. Ig I don't have much chance for these top schools, but ig it matters more what I do in college with the resources they have than where I go. thx I'll keep watching more of your stuff!
She excelled in her studies. She did everything required to be a perfect candidate for Stanford. Why don’t you review affirmative action students applications and compare them to her application? Have you noticed that there aren’t any videos of other minority groups on why they were rejected by Stanford and Ivy League Universities? Why do you think Harvard University is being sued by group of Asians?
Harvard is getting sued because a white conservative organization found a few token Asians to use in killing affirmative action. The overwhelming Asian population and Asian organizations do not support this lawsuit. The earth shattering findings of this lawsuit is how legacy white kids and kids of Harvard staff are being admitted knowing they would not be accepted if they had to go through the normal process. However, they will be no law against stopping that. The acceptance percentage of Asians in Harvard is more than AA and Hispanic kids COMBINED. With other ethnicities it makes up 50%. The other 50% are white kids. I’m sure all of them deserved to get in (sarcasm). There are smart races in this world other than White and Asian.
Why are you going after ‘affirmative action’ students (which we both know you’re talking about black and Latinx people, even though the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women) and not legacies which have a 33% higher chance of getting in than the “perfect candidate”. It sounds like your insinuating that other minority groups can’t succeed academically enough to get into an Ivy League on their own merit, which is not only very racist, but buys into the model minority myth, a huge reason as to why Asian applicants are being affected by college admissions in the first place.
The guy Michael Wang who's suing Harvard, when he applied to Law School, only got into a school ranked 133? What's happened? Was that affirmative actions?
Affirmative action is right and I feel like Asians are being selfish and entitled not everyone grew up with resources like y'all most ppl come from a third world country where they can't engage in great ecs or prestigious competitions they should be given a chance too
So how does she stand out comparing to other Asians that get admitted to Stanford? She has similar stats to all others. Did not show much of personality. I did not found anything interesting about her. She thought lightly about clubs and essays since she is an “excellent” student. Every school has their own standards. Accept it. She should have applied to MIT since they don’t care about legacy or athlete. But then she is just “average” there.
Hello, I have a quick question: in your opinion, would it be better to fill in all 10 activities in commonapp or not all, but ensure that those put down are all connected into a singular theme that brings my unique value?
I'd fill in all 10 activities. As long as there is some cohesive story line, you should be fine adding some content that goes beyond it. After all, you are a normal person with a life and hobbies outside of school. It would be strange if you're applying to CS and the ONLY thing you say you did in high school is CS. For example, I talked about Boy Scouts on my college app which was a big part of my life outside of school. I also brought up playing piano and the volunteering I did with that as my 10th/final activity.
I agree with what P said. Make sure you have something you're clearly interested in, but fill in other things too. This shows the college that you're passionate about the things you do, but you also like to try things out, too!
No. You just need your parents to have gone there back when it was an easy school, and you could just retake your classes until you got straight As. Legacy kids always get in. If their grandma is a big donor, they can even take 1 class at a time instead of a full load.
Hiya! My main extracurricular revolves around piano, but I want to go into a science field. I’m in 9th grade rn, but I haven’t done any science related things yet. Is it too late to start? I’m looking for hope 😢 (Thank you for the awsome video!)
@@see9968 whether he's a Stanford student or not, he is still qualified due to his acceptances from other prestigious and competitive programs. He's being general here, so you can pretty much use his advice for applying to all colleges.
@@preachingp It's not "catchy." It's an outright lie. If I were someone reviewing, say, a grant application of yours in the future, I would have a reason to question other parts of your application. After all, I would have applicants from Stanford, Harvard, UPenn and Johns Hopkins Med School applying for the same thing. And your med school is essentially unranked. Think about it.
Cool video. Now, are most Stanford admits had National level awards? It is impossible that they all - or even most of them - did. There are only so many national awards, and Stanford offers admission to 1,600 or so students. Moreover, it is certain that many of these - very few - students chose Harvard, Princeton, MIT, and Caltech over Stanford, though many do chose Stanford, of course. So "Amy" - and there are many rejected Amys - has some good grounds to feel jilted and disappointed. The process is rotten. If Amy wanted to apply to Cambridge math, her seven 5's and 35 on ACT would get her the right to sit at the entrance exam. A good score on that exam would give her a math interview with Cambridge tutors where they would have decided to teach her or not, and Amy would understand perfectly what she did or did not manage to answer at that interview. But at Stanford - only G-ds know why she was not accepted, and I guess the right answer is - nobody really knows.
She is lacking Top tier awards. Coming in 3rd place in Colorado in population of state That is about 6 million vs a Champion for Large State like New York, California, Florida, Or Texas which has massive population 30 million plus is no comparison. Stanford is looking for Leaders, and Pioneers and not just an over achiever. Being an over achiever is bare minimum just to even have your application looked at.
So, you say these top flight colleges are looking for the new Steve Jobs. Well, you know that he never did graduate from some minor league Reed College, right? Neither did Bill Gates of that FB fella. You seem like a super-geek. Who wants to be that. BTW, doesn't Stanford have a pretty good football team? You think those jocks are working on their National Math competition awards?
But Gates and Zuckerberg got in to Harvard, they just didn't finish. It doesn't mean that these schools aren't looking for the next one, they absolutely are. Figuratively and literally, Steve's son Reed Jobs got in and attended Stanford, son of Steve and a Stanford alumna. And quite a number of slots at Stanford go to people without half Amy's credentials, the legacy kids.And actually the Stanford football team is made up of good student athletes too. They're not stupid.
Did someone say she got into Caltech? Then she got into better places than Stanford and should quit whining and quit ruminating on her "mistakes", what a ridiculous waste of her study time. Put the camera down and get to work young lady, move forward not backwards in life. 😂😂😂
When you say admission do you mean admission with a scholarship? Because I always thought that you can go to any college or university in the US if you pay the full tuition fee.
hi! This may not be for any college, but generally in the US colleges will not accept everybody. There are acceptance rates, which makes the application process super competitive and stressful. Even if you are paying full ride there is not a secured spot for you! Many colleges do offer scholarships however. I probably explained it confusingly so watch videos if you are still wondering!
Preaching P you are a blessing fr. I've been working at a pharmacy- counting medications, packaging them etc. When applying for BS/MD school should I mention this or does it seem like I was interested in pharmacy?
Definitely put it on your application, but based on exactly what you did, play around with the positioning. If you were not paid, then this could be a very cool volunteering-related activity. If you were paid, then still put it on your application, but perhaps write about it in a different light when you make your "why do you want to be a doctor?" essay. For example, you worked in the pharmacy and learned a lot about that sector of medicine, but you realized that you wanted to work more directly with people which is why you're not going to become a pharmacist (you could refine this logic a lot more).
Hello, I am applying to Stanford as an INTERNATIONAL TRANSFER APPLICANT. Do you think I should apply for first year under regular decision as well, just to increase my chances of getting in
Stanford rejected her because not everything is about grades. Stanford wants people that are exceptional at something very specific outside academics. Asians need to understand that.
She's very clearly shown herself to be a top-tier math student through competition wins, and leadership positions in and out of school. Her grades are simply the benchmark for excellence. You should try generalizing less and understand that Asian people can't help having such strong academics, and imposing racial quotas and then reducing them to simply antisocial "study hard never play" candidates is unfair.
@@Sid-vz8rm Every Stanford admit is extremely good at math. Every Stanford admit was head or vice head of their student body. Unless you're an IMO gold or silver medalist, that just isn't good enough. What does she offer apart from being just another Asian math genius? That's practically every Asian applicant already
@@Sid-vz8rm Has she tried applying to elite UK universities? The grades alone would carry her there. In the US though, there's no way she's getting into HYPSM with that run-of-the-mill application. Especially not as an Asian.
@@t.s5806if she was like every stanford admit, why is she not one of them themselves? IMO Gold and Silver Medalists are 2 a year, and so 8 every 4 years of high school. You believe every stanford admit has some level of achievement as noteworthy as that?
@@t.s5806I'm familiar with the UK and its focus on grades, yes. It doesn't make this a run-of-the-mill application. The lowest level of achievement is maybe the community service and that still shows commitment and interest. Even with as much downplaying of her honors as humanly possible, as much downplaying of her leadership roles to simply run-of-the-mill good student extracurricular activities, the plain truth is Stanford accepts around 2000 applicants a year, and 2000 applicants will not all have national-level placements and honors.
As a parent, this is really sad. Not that she didn't get in, but that kids are supposed to dedicate their entire high school career into getting into a university. If my kids (who are still in elementary school) get into an Ivy league school, I'll be thrilled. But... I would much rather my kids spend their high school years on activities that bring them joy. If that gets them into a top school, great. If not, it doesn't matter. There's more to life than getting into Stanford.
Well said.
@@lauraannemarienoel2600 I'm not sure what to think about that.
I suspect most kids would love to go to an Ivy (not just many). However, going to an Ivy isn't an end unto itself. You go there in order to further some other goal. It's supposed to help you to pursue some other passion.
Surely the thing to do in high school is to go after that passion directly. Maybe that will gain you admission into a great school or maybe it won't, but you'll be closer to your actual dream than if you organize your life around what you think the school wants you to be.
@@lauraannemarienoel2600 If my kids choose to dedicate four years into getting into a single school, I won't stop them. But it's my job as parent to try to guide them to something better when I see them making a mistake.
At the very least, I'd make sure they were aware of the hundreds of other options that might provide just as good or even better student experience than Stanford.
(this is coming from a simple High School Sophomore, i may have misunderstood some stuff)
How I personally like to look at college applications is that in High School, you do whatever you want to do.
I feel like a bad mindset to have with it is to think about it as "I NEED to do this so I can get into a good college"
Rather I feel like it should be about something you enjoy doing, building a sort of unique experience to help you when you do pursue higher education of your desired field.
I agree with what you said, it is definitely twisted for high school students to have such high expectations to go to good colleges and do extremely life changing stuff in their teenage years. However, I think it can be a great thing when it is simply is born from their own passion.
Personally I like to look at it like this:
Do some fun and great stuff in your High School Years -
A) Get into a Top College - Great! You made your goal, and you can get a great form of education.
B) Get Rejected from a Top/Dream School - Sad, but at least you gained some incredible experience in your high school years related to your major!
Also top colleges can be extremely overrated.
Yes they can be some of the greatest institutions in the world, but even then that doesn't mean much. It's really more so about what you do at the college.
Summarizing this, I just feel like there just needs to be a better mindset going into college applications.
@@ezakt I think that's pretty much right.
Another thing that you should remember is that "top college" depends a lot on what you specifically want to do, and you have a ton of choices nowadays.
Also, the top US universities are actually pretty small. Stanford takes in about 1700 students per year. That's nothing.
If you're interested in (for example) medicine, University of Toronto is ranked higher for medicine and takes in about 17,000 students.
There are a lot of other things to take into account as well. You're going to be there for at least four years. What's the city like? Are there interesting clubs for you to join?
You can also construct your own awesome experience, no matter where you go. You've got four months free every summer. You could enter a student vacation/travel program and work in Australia or something like that.
There are just so many possibilities that go beyond getting into a particular school.
I've talked to someone on the admissions board here, and one thing that stood out to me was that they can tell when applicants read the book of successful Stanford application essays, and they can tell when you are writing what you think sounds good. They don't want to hear what you *think* they want to hear, they are looking for something different. It's all about those essay questions. A few years ago, they even brought in special resources for a student because her academics weren't up to "standard," but they were so moved by her essay (about her cat) that they let her in on a trial basis. They brought in tutors specifically for her, because her background made it hard to keep up with traditional academics. You can ask the guy that works at the bookstore (one of main employees that has been there for a long time), just ask him to tell you about the girl who wrote the essay about her cat. ---Back to the main point: You don't know what they are looking for, so you have to be willing to be vulnerable in your writing. On top of that, you need a bit of luck, because we've all seen brilliant students get turned away here. That's why I find all of these "how I got in" or "why I didn't get in" videos to be mostly unhelpful, because you never know what is going to resonate with the panel that year.
seems way too arbitrary, the girl and the cat story just makes me hate the elite assholes that much more if it is even true. F'ing Lame treating kids that work their asses off like their efforts are meaningless.
cool, thanks for sharing
I can’t find the essay about the cat, where can I read it?
@@antonella5435 samesies I wanna read it
This is so much bullshit.
People pay through their nose to get essays edited and written, who are they kidding?
They can smell the money 💰 and offer admission on basis of 1 essay, ignoring all hard work? That's so fake.
Sat scores don't count, nor does gpa, but 1 essay? What a joke
Bro made the vid to talk about himself😂
6:34 I just wanna point smth out here since you sort of glossed over it: PROMYS is insane. Like, aside from MOP and maybe Ross, it is the most prestigious math camp in the country by quite a bit, and is extremely rigoroous and selective. Sure, it's not consistent, but it's a summer camp so it doesn't have to be, and it's easily the most impressive thing on her application.
I'd say USA/Canada Mathcamp, PROMYS and Ross are about the same level. All very prestigious math camps though!
In success, you need to come across kinder to others who did not make it to their desired goals.
truth hurts, he is educating
he used that example to help his subscribers about what not to do
If you're looking for extra activities that link to your subjects, ask your teachers for "super-curriculars" (some schools have them, some don't). A super-curricular is a list of competitions, podcasts, posters, books etc that you do to further your understanding.
in the uk... we don't even have the basics they have in the us lol. In most other countries school is more focussed on Accademics.
Bro, you might have some valid points but you can never justify the US private elite colleges 'holistic' admission." It is pointless to argue that US college admissions are actually fair or actually consider a rationale while making a decision. Yeah, they do consider a sat score and GPA for shortlisting maybe some extracurricular as well, but definitely, they have so many qualified students that they literally have to pick at random. Think about it, will they actually be concerned to use narrow tie-breakers for students? That would be waste of time and resources so obviously, they'll have to pick at random and that pool will be large (maybe 10,000 or so) so you can increase your chances to a minute extent, but in the end, it is all about luck.
Who said that
@@adeola1919the leaked harvard papers did
Solution: apply to every single top50
Luck means that numbers increase your chance
Bruh, my brother in christ, at 14:11 you say that everyone thinks they're an expert WHEN THE FIRST WORDS OF THE EXAMPLE COMMENT ARE "I'm definitely no expert". You basically shut down that comment without saying why the take is wrong or uninformed. If you're going to make an example out of a youtube commenter, at least back up your claims with not even evidence but just reasoning, why the take is wrong. No, I don't see what you mean because you're making a claim off a stereotype that you're trying to prove, that all youtube comments are brainless. It's circular logic. Besides, everyone has different experiences, so there are no more "experts" than the average person. What's to say that a student accepted into stanford knows exactly why they got in, and that a student rejected knows exactly why they got rejected? Admissions offices aren't even monoliths, so the advice of one admissions officer may be the exact opposite of what another admissions officer would recommend. Both want to accept students that will go on to do great things, but their ideas of what that student is can be vastly different, even if working towards the same goal. All this to say, the position of a person by itself has no bearing on their level of expertise, only their actual experiences do. You're no more an expert than I am, or that other youtube commenter who said themself "I'm definitely no expert". If you're going to denounce someone, don't do it based solely off of stereotype. It's not fair and it's not right. Be better in the future.
This also reminds me of how, in game criticism, some people say that you can't criticize game design unless if you've made a game yourself. Game developers don't make games for other game developers, they make them for their target audience. The target audience should be the most valuable source of criticism, even moreso than the other game developers. Sure, the target audience doesn't know how the game was made, but they don't need to in order to offer valid criticism of the product.
He didn’t even apply to Stanford..
He’s a scammer
ua-cam.com/video/FoJVFKFWUaI/v-deo.htmlsi=en4UaIjQBvpP_xn4
dude is on his own mountain.
@@JuveEnthusiastExactly. Ego is the enemy, it blinds us
I feel like the “because I’m Asian” point was missed here it isn’t about givin up tryin less or anythin like that, just the acknowledgment that it’s not the same level of difficulty. It’s fine to be bothered by it as long as you don’t let it cause you to give up.
No, it's that you have the wrong idea entirely about the type of individual that these schools want. Amy is someone that is great at regurgitating information from a textbook without making actual progress in and being innovative in the real world. They want real, hard-working, mature individuals that are leaders and that display passion for what they do. I will bet that her teacher letters are weak and state simply that she earned an A in their course while a quiet student in the class.
@@LuvThyMind29 This is such an unbelievably dumb thing to say. If she was not asian she would have gotten in without a question. Asian kids definitely have a harder time in college admissions and there are so many statistics to back it up. She literally had good ecs too so its not just regurgitating information its performing well, applying things she learned outside of school, and just overall being a great student. If she was black you could chop off 100 from her SAT, chop off like 0.5 from her GPA, take out any placings in national competitions, and she could have gotten in with good essays.
@@iwanttoleave6305 What makes it dumb, (the fact that you don't agree)? With your level of maturity it is no surprise that you didn't get into top programs.
She is not memorable, passionate or inspired in any way. Again, the schools are moving away from standardized exams and GPA because neither replicates anything in the real world. These are useless metrics.
@@LuvThyMind29 As an asian applicant yes that is what you need but in the video she was informatively presenting the fact that her being asian hurt her chances at admission. And who said I didn't get into top programs🤣
@@iwanttoleave6305 "And who said I didn't get into top programs" I'm making the assumption from your prior comments....Your arguments are not very sound.
The above black applicant that was admitted was simply better than Amy in a different area. You naiively believe the SAT is all that matters. You are wrong.
Calling yourself a Stanford student and not even getting in is wild.
he did get in, he just didn’t go.
@@veuphora2232 I don't think he'd choose to go to rensselaer polytechnic institute after if he'd gotten into stanford bro.
@@cheesewizard do you understand how much stanford costs? There's so many other factors like wildfires in Cali, the weather, scholarships, tuition, dorms. Obviously you don't understand bro.
@@cheesewizard Also because of how much crime there is right now in sanfrancisco
@@cheesewizardBut he should have just said "Accepted Stanford applicant" instead of Stanford student 😂
So basically I’m cooked if I’m a junior and have no consistent 4 year extracurricular commitment, even though Covid was my freshman year and sophomore year was really more of a freshman year to me
yep
My school was closed both in the end of freshmen year and the entirety of sophomore year,
and there was heavy restriction in junior year ;
i'm now a senior and basically cooked.
I wouldn't say that. Be creative on your essay!
Not all hope is lost! You can always be creative with your essay. The main thing is to prove to the college that you have passions that you want to continue, and how those passions will improve the college's environment/programs in turn. Also, say how COVID affected your academics/extracurriculars, but also say how you pulled through the adversity and still found things to do! COlleges love that.
I… am… in… the… same… situation… as… you…
Cried myself to sleep thinking about it
Stanford grad here. This is really stupid.
he didnt even get into stanford, so its bs
@@carmensandiego7749 not true
@@Ricky_69 Yes, they're insufferable, especially him. 😂😂😂
@@carmensandiego7749 who are the whiners?
😂😂 Well now that I know more about Amy, I would say that he's more insufferable and also not a Stanford student, he's apparently at RPI. So what does he know?
Your ego is too high, tone it down buddy
Fr and he’s so delulu
“Stanford student”
Let's be honest. Us college system is broken. No matter how much you try to cover up..
Diversity drive has taken over the need to get in good students.
The holistic admission is just quite nonsensical. This just gives pure latitude to anything goes for colleges and they can change criteria at will.
Let's be honest, this is a bunch of high school kids, not grown up adults in jobs
No body makes adults jump through so many hoops as us colleges do to kids.
i agree with you, except with the diversity drive stuff. people complaining about affirmative action are extremely annoying, most likely cause they have a misunderstanding of what it even is. affirmative action doesnt get a worse student in just because theyre another ethnicity than asian/white or whatever nonsensical belief you might have about it. affirmative action just says "hey, if these two people are basically the same except for ethnicity, maybe favor the minority". it still gets equal skill level students in. dont like that system? too bad, we're dealing with the cards we're dealt.
This is what liberals want though
@@noveled_1it should still be equal for everyone, not just for minorities. (I say this as a minority)
@@localmilfchaser6938 i understand. ive been thinking about this more, and while i do support affirmative action, im not going to supremely hate on people who dont. its just what you believe. (and yes, im also a minority, look at my name lmao)
@@noveled_1 It's still not completely fair. They're generalizing how a minority lives their life and the experiences they may have such as discrimination or low income, etc. But by generalizing that, what about the exceptions? There can be successful minority students with many opportunities because their parents may be successful. And there can be white students who struggle financially in comparison. And if the chances aren't equal then that's not called fair unless college admissions officers go through the final lineup carefully and not use something uncontrollable like race to determine admission. Even if you give one group of people an extra percent of advantage in a situation where both are otherwise equal, then the other group will lose that 1%. I'm not sure what they expect from the groups that they generalize as non-minorities. If Asian counts, then what do I say? Sorry that I'm born Asian and I've been expected to be good at math and succeed in school? Like sorry that I've worked just as hard as others yet I get a slight disadvantage because people of my race work hard and statistically get into higher ranked schools? That sounds pretty messed up. At least we can agree that we're just going to have to deal with this, regardless of who it's supposed to help. This isn't supposed to sound rude to you specifically, but it's my take especially as someone who's Asian with my own difficulties and watching how people will both be advantaged and disadvantaged because of race out of all things.
calm down bro, she meant obvio I'm asian for her introduction
I'm fairly sure that Amy went to the same high school I went to so this video really spoke to me.
"did yall catch that" at the start actually had me bro
Thank you so much for this video, it definitely cleared up a lot of thoughts about college admissions and not to stress so much about. Just follow your passion. Thanks again Preaching P I'm in my sophomore year of high school right now! :)
your ego is a bit too high
How so
All humans are piht
I say he’s earned it
Admission to those colleges are on some vague requirements of Holistic - which can range from anything from I didn't like your name to anything, and they don't need to explain it to us.
Based on such vague criteria, it's hard to accept the admission process as actually legit.
Plus add to that the fact that college LOST their diversity admission case which proved they're biased.
So we don't know if he really deserves to get in or got in just because that admission officer was in mood for something he had on his resume that day.
Too bad these ivies stink of bias.
@@shyampadmanabhan4171fuck no he looks like a dog eater
Just because people are overqualified it doesn't mean you are a shoe in. Colleges don't just want bookworms....
Exactly, it’s not because you’re Asian. Asians don’t have a harder time for college apps. They all just try to to into ivies. That’s the issue, apply to safeties and falls. Also, it could likely be that they thought her stats were, since if you have so many extracurriculars it would seem fake. It has nothing to do with affirmative action, they want diversity and people with personalities outside of school. also, people try to jazz up the awards or clubs they were into.
5:14 If you really understood how math contests like the AMC, AIME worked, you would not have made that comparison
It's fun watching videos like this one about young adolescents applying to college in the modern era. Generation Z is probably too young to know of a film called "Orange County" from 2002. The film starred a young Colin Hanks playing a HS senior applying to Stanford. It was hilarious. The film was set in Southern California - Orange County. As for the rejected student, it is still very possible to (1) transfer in as a junior or (2) apply as a graduate student. The latter is actually more ideal because one can apply to multiple departments and also get much better financial aid like a solid fellowship. I also question whether if she would have really liked Stanford if she had gotten in. The Bay Area isn't for everyone. When I was a young teen, I had my heart set on Notre Dame. I found the midwest to have major culture gaps with my rural upbringing on an Arizona Apache Reservation where I am enrolled. The weather was also extremely cold with excessive snow or cold rain much of the year. The socioeconomic challenges and racism with students from the affluent suburbs were also problems. Overall, if I knew back as a teen what I know now it would have been better to wait until graduate school to apply for an elite program far out-of-state. I know a guy who had his whole heart set on Stanford and was accepted. He was from a reservation nearby. The guy was a classic example of a "mismatch" if you know what I mean and never finished. Those "social engineering" programs by admissions committees often didn't work - if you know what I mean. Google "Richard Sanders" of UCLA and "mismatch". I fear YT might block me if I blatantly print it out - lol. But I know you are very intelligent and can read between the lines. I now have five master's degrees and am a PhD student at Arizona State while working as an SDET. Those early years in college after HS were really tough. I never really adjusted to the rigor until graduate school but now do great.
They have classrooms full of kids who "identify" as anything other than a sober, ambitious student, but they won't let Amy in because she "lacks an entrepreneurial spirit?" If that is what is guiding the admissions process to elite colleges we're in big trouble.
I would honestly be more interested if her essay is a bit more thoughtful like make the readers know who you are, why are you interested and some stuff that they would see a potential in you. Common I've seen a lot of brilliant + genius people with a ton of IQ, but not all stands out the way others do, so make yourself something unique and different
Love your video! I have a suggestion. I think it would be really fun and interesting to see your college application! I am currently a freshman, learned a lot from your channel.
Something to say is that the athletics isn't a bad extra-curricular BUT she fails to use recent activities (within the past 1-2 years), and doesn't show IMPACT. For example, " I developed team building which allows me to work in large projects" ( followed by maybe a project she did). I was told my doctors that it doesn't matter what you do ( e.g. call centre experience) it is what you take away from it. For me, i volunteer time to teach badminton, specially to younger children which would show in a medicine application that i have experience with children.
Stanford student? Aren't you at RPI?
even if not
👽dud was spitting facts
He got accepted into Stanford.
@galacticlava1475 | And he chose RPI? 🤕
@@galacticlava1475 | Exactly -- getting accepted doesn't make you an actual student at said university
@@galacticlava1475 he didn't
Bruh.. she got into PROMYS at 6:33... why didn't you talk about this?
From your statement on Asian, I give you an F
I think you’re discounting the race factor vastly. The current supreme docs show an asian of tier 10-9 (highest tiers) have a 2% chance for admittance vs black students getting 42% chance. That’s race based.
Hypothetically, you state in the vid that she is asian and applying as an engineer. Race is a factor not just her major.
the percentages are misinformationalyl presented in a way that highlights the chance when it doesn't talk about the amount of asians versus black students that apply. If you take 2000 asian and black applicants the black applicants have a 5-10% acceptance plus. And that almost definitely comes from the fact that many black applicants with lower SAT and standardized scores are accepted but then you have to factor socioeconomic background and access to tutors and things like that. So in conclusion college admissions is a very convoluted system but even with no race based decisions now it's still going to admit lower SAT scores from lower socioeconomic background which trends to be African American and Hispanic people although it could be anyone
Exactly, it’s not because you’re Asian. Asians don’t have a harder time for college apps. They all just try to to into ivies. That’s the issue, apply to safeties and falls. Also, it could likely be that they thought her stats were, since if you have so many extracurriculars it would seem fake. It has nothing to do with affirmative action, they want diversity and people with personalities outside of school. also, people try to jazz up the awards or clubs they were into.
You sound like a liar. There’s like only 6 percent of Asians in America, yet they have a high 30+ percentage population at ivies,
The question is simple. Many students that are not as smart and/or less qualified than Amy, got accepted. Why?
Cuz she is Asian and they want to diversify otherwise Asian will dominate these universities.
“I’m definitely no expert”
“Everyone thinks they’re an expert” lol. Quite true just a funny comment to say it to
I’m a mom of a high school Senior and I saw her video. I even commented on her video about some of my daughter’s stats. I was interested in hearing your perspective.
Bruh. Not even a stanford student. You're an amplified version of those UA-cam commenters who you say "think they're an expert". Make genuine content please. It's honestly the best way to go if you want to be a lasting UA-camr.
he got in tho lmao
@@aydc6740 he didn't?
Who let bro cook? He got into Harvard Stanford mit, think before you comment bruh. Google his name if you want
amy not gonna f u lil bro
@@breakingbedrock7655that doesn't make him a student though. It's common UA-camr clickbait 🤷
Well said about the topic on the excuses, thank you for the enlightenment
Can you make an extracurricular video which includes your extracurriculars if possible?
say less my boy
I have to say, you seem quite genuine but your points seemed kinda moot and or regurgitated (almost verbatim) Amy’s points.
For example, your point about “not doing things for the sake of college” is one of her later points, where she acknowledges the lack of cohesiveness her activities had and how it posed a detriment to her app. Not to mention, your point on “Asians whining doing them no good” is just wrong (lol), and does nothing but plausibly serve as defense for systemic racial bias in admissions process.
Yeah, he is very conceited in this video. Complaining against racial bias does not mean that you're arguing against the fact that you're asian; it means that you're arguing against systematic issues and discrimination. I don't like his takes partly due to his disregard for students' backgrounds. It's a good video and he brings up good points but its very hard to relate to anything he says.
Exactly he is full of himself . That too for some who only got into brown.
Thanks for your comment Andrew! I just discovered this video (would it be fun to do a react of the react? 😮) and I agree that P is nice but the Asian part is a little strange. See the following: ua-cam.com/users/shortsCa2ZkMMoH14?feature=share
i also think she actually didn't complain as much about being asian as he makes it seem in this video..
also that comment under Amy's video actually made sense. her resume did seem like she listed too much fluff just for the sake of it.
@@wamyy5he didn’t even get into Stanford… I’d probably ignore his videos
This makes absolutely NO SENSE to me. Stanford discriminating against Asians? Look up the story of Allan Bakke.
this is like using one scenario to invalidate the other 10000 scenarios. really proves that you're not down to earth buddy
Asians perform much better than any other racial demographic in standardized testing, and academics, and from findings in the Harvard Lawsuit also display good extracurricular performance, exceeding or matching their white counterparts in Harvard's own extracurricular rating system. and this is one case from 1978, in the University of California public university system.
Asians don’t have a harder time for college apps. They all just try to to into ivies. That’s the issue, apply to safeties and falls. Also, it could likely be that they thought her stats were, since if you have so many extracurriculars it would seem fake. It has nothing to do with affirmative action, they want diversity and people with personalities outside of school.
Why does one white person being discriminated mean that a whole other race isn't discriminated?
What did he mean by extracurriculars? Like sports and music? Because I feel like universities look at those to just see how committed you are or determined towards something.
Bro, aren’t you going to RPI?
He is lol
From this video, you seem to be the right person, so I want to ask: What if I'm not from the US but I want to get into an Ivy League college? The grading system in my country is different than the US and I have a hard time calculating my GPA, taking classes like AP or other important stuff. Does this hurt my chances of getting in? Thank you in advance for your answer! :)
no, considering the courses u took in your country is equivalent to Ap classes, for examples- A-levels
bro said thank you for no reply
Bro I was laughing so when she said she was Asian.
If Amy hasn't got accepted, we are cooked
But Amy did “go for it,” despite being Asian. I think you dismiss too quickly her assertion of bias.
4% acceptance rate. Not bias. Nor is she memorable. This is an individual who checked off what she thought she needed to check off to get in; she does not even remember the clubs that she "participated" in. Perhaps a student was accepted in her place who was described as focused and passionate as a student while acting as a parent to their little sibling and paying half of the monthly rent. I've met individuals like Amy that can't get through a research project on their own once in the real world.
@@chukwuebukaamaechi9366thousands of students with national and state level honors, high level leadership positions and dedicated community service? National and State-Level Honors such as what Amy had are hard to replicate. Unless this is over a period of 10 years, this is a profile of a classic Stanford student.
I like how you stated race is not a factor in getting in or not, but when she applied to be a doctor/engineer you like that a hard field to enter because she is Asian . Like You have to be a little realistic, race does have some factor when applying to top colleges, but as you said, it can't be the reason the only reason. Also, half the math achievements she made were pretty unique, something that few people have. Yes, she did not make research papers like you did, but she did have the potential to be great which is something colleges are looking for, so I don't think that was a valid reason why she did not get in. But honestly, the most disappointing thing is how society is making us compete for college admissions because at the end of the day, even if you end up in an Ivy League, Most job interviewers don't care as long as it is a good school.
Bro you go to RPI
😂 yeah right?
Do you think its better to do a bs/md program or take the traditional route, I want to explore medicine and health in more ways than one in college ,and I’m worried bsmd might be too strict and planned out for a person like me.
Depends on the school, the program, and your workload. Medicine is tough, and it can be easy to get overwhelmed. Talk to your advisor about how BS/MS works and what classes you need to take (you might need to overload), and if you think you can handle it, go for it. If you can't, that's totally fine, and those extra grad courses will always come in handy if you decide to come back for a full Master's in the future.
Hey …. I do watch vids of @wAmy and her sis @Angel …. They make cool researched content. Especially @wAmy is actually a sweet person to interact …. I’m actually impressed by her.
Hey Arshveer, aw so sweet of you to be here and comment those kind words. Appreciate you a lot! You're awesome :)
The definition of affirmative action is to discriminate against Asians. Of course it could've played a role in her not getting in, P.
any reccomendations for the honors section? i feel like i dont really have much other than some ap awards and honor rolls
what awards did you do PREACHIN P?
I really want to get into harvard but I'm in my junior year and I've achieved nothing compared to you guys. What do I do? Please reply
I'm a senior applying to college and I would recommend applying for international and national awards for things you are passionate about (art, econ, ect.) because thats something i regret not doing jr yr. Think about what major you want to pursue and why and start doing extracurriculars related to it maybe try to get leadership at a school club, START a club (you couldn't join cause it wasn't there), volunteer and try to get at least 100 hours for an organization that relates to you (say for instance you like penpalling then you can send letters to military vets or coding you could help an organization donate laptops and electronics to low-income areas). Also think about if you may have had a longer commitment in the past (like for me I didn't put this on my college apps but I remember that I really wanted guinea pigs so to afford paying for them for the past 7 yrs I have been selling chocolate at the local hospital) and you can phrase it in a way that sound impressive (ex. supporting ___ patients at X hospital by providing them with snacks ___ times a week for __ years using the money raised to care for abandoned guinea pigs or whatever). I think having at least 5 extracurriculars that seem important to you is good enough and obviously winning national awards can make up for the lack of extracurriculars if all your extracurriculars don't seem like you did them just for college. Also I think the writing can really save you! Invest time into your personal statement. Admissions at Dartmoth and Duke have said that your supplements are the most important aspect on your application then its your personal statement, then extracurriculars (which are used to show you can have passion and be committed). Get started on essays early and have at least 2 good editors from the schools you might want to attend read all the supps you submit so you can perfect them (you can also use youtube to see what essays look like for an accepted applicant)
TBH the random comment you read a dumped on ("subhuman IQ") was fairly on point, and is basically saying the same thing you said.
Also, you mention Steve Jobs and the Google guys, none of which went to Stanford as undergrads.
Full disclosure: I went to Stanford.
TLDR: quality over quantity for your extracurriculars
8:00 does that mean it's not worth putting your sport if you don't plan on playing it in college
She’s right about being rejected because she is Asian.
hey man idk if you check these old vids, but I am applying to colleges rn. woulda been nice if I'd seen your channel as a freshman. Ig I don't have much chance for these top schools, but ig it matters more what I do in college with the resources they have than where I go. thx I'll keep watching more of your stuff!
She excelled in her studies. She did everything required to be a perfect candidate for Stanford. Why don’t you review affirmative action students applications and compare them to her application? Have you noticed that there aren’t any videos of other minority groups on why they were rejected by Stanford and Ivy League Universities? Why do you think Harvard University is being sued by group of Asians?
Harvard is getting sued because a white conservative organization found a few token Asians to use in killing affirmative action. The overwhelming Asian population and Asian organizations do not support this lawsuit. The earth shattering findings of this lawsuit is how legacy white kids and kids of Harvard staff are being admitted knowing they would not be accepted if they had to go through the normal process. However, they will be no law against stopping that. The acceptance percentage of Asians in Harvard is more than AA and Hispanic kids COMBINED. With other ethnicities it makes up 50%. The other 50% are white kids. I’m sure all of them deserved to get in (sarcasm). There are smart races in this world other than White and Asian.
Why are you going after ‘affirmative action’ students (which we both know you’re talking about black and Latinx people, even though the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action are white women) and not legacies which have a 33% higher chance of getting in than the “perfect candidate”. It sounds like your insinuating that other minority groups can’t succeed academically enough to get into an Ivy League on their own merit, which is not only very racist, but buys into the model minority myth, a huge reason as to why Asian applicants are being affected by college admissions in the first place.
The guy Michael Wang who's suing Harvard, when he applied to Law School, only got into a school ranked 133? What's happened? Was that affirmative actions?
Affirmative action is right and I feel like Asians are being selfish and entitled not everyone grew up with resources like y'all most ppl come from a third world country where they can't engage in great ecs or prestigious competitions they should be given a chance too
So how does she stand out comparing to other Asians that get admitted to Stanford? She has similar stats to all others. Did not show much of personality. I did not found anything interesting about her. She thought lightly about clubs and essays since she is an “excellent” student.
Every school has their own standards. Accept it. She should have applied to MIT since they don’t care about legacy or athlete. But then she is just “average” there.
Hello, I have a quick question: in your opinion, would it be better to fill in all 10 activities in commonapp or not all, but ensure that those put down are all connected into a singular theme that brings my unique value?
I'd fill in all 10 activities. As long as there is some cohesive story line, you should be fine adding some content that goes beyond it. After all, you are a normal person with a life and hobbies outside of school. It would be strange if you're applying to CS and the ONLY thing you say you did in high school is CS. For example, I talked about Boy Scouts on my college app which was a big part of my life outside of school. I also brought up playing piano and the volunteering I did with that as my 10th/final activity.
I agree with what P said. Make sure you have something you're clearly interested in, but fill in other things too. This shows the college that you're passionate about the things you do, but you also like to try things out, too!
I thought you said you went to some bs Md program
thats what im confused about too
She should just apply to math or stats instead of engineering
Goes back to what we’ve heard that you have to walk on water to get into Stanford …smh
No. You just need your parents to have gone there back when it was an easy school, and you could just retake your classes until you got straight As. Legacy kids always get in. If their grandma is a big donor, they can even take 1 class at a time instead of a full load.
Yeahhh now I understand that if her application "doesn't trigger the WOW factor" I am totally cooked :)
"College admission industry"
Hiya! My main extracurricular revolves around piano, but I want to go into a science field. I’m in 9th grade rn, but I haven’t done any science related things yet. Is it too late to start? I’m looking for hope 😢 (Thank you for the awsome video!)
You're a freshman you have plenty of time
Standford student???
He got into brown, but he got into this hyper competitive bsmd program at RPI, where he at rn.
@@jay.r.d so why did he say stanford student 💀
@@see9968 whether he's a Stanford student or not, he is still qualified due to his acceptances from other prestigious and competitive programs. He's being general here, so you can pretty much use his advice for applying to all colleges.
the title sounded catchy. sue me 🤷🏾♂️
@@preachingp It's not "catchy." It's an outright lie. If I were someone reviewing, say, a grant application of yours in the future, I would have a reason to question other parts of your application. After all, I would have applicants from Stanford, Harvard, UPenn and Johns Hopkins Med School applying for the same thing. And your med school is essentially unranked. Think about it.
Once again, another entertaining and informative video. Great Job :)
Cool video. Now, are most Stanford admits had National level awards? It is impossible that they all - or even most of them - did. There are only so many national awards, and Stanford offers admission to 1,600 or so students. Moreover, it is certain that many of these - very few - students chose Harvard, Princeton, MIT, and Caltech over Stanford, though many do chose Stanford, of course. So "Amy" - and there are many rejected Amys - has some good grounds to feel jilted and disappointed. The process is rotten. If Amy wanted to apply to Cambridge math, her seven 5's and 35 on ACT would get her the right to sit at the entrance exam. A good score on that exam would give her a math interview with Cambridge tutors where they would have decided to teach her or not, and Amy would understand perfectly what she did or did not manage to answer at that interview. But at Stanford - only G-ds know why she was not accepted, and I guess the right answer is - nobody really knows.
She is lacking Top tier awards. Coming in 3rd place in Colorado in population of state That is about 6 million vs a Champion for Large State like New York, California, Florida, Or Texas which has massive population 30 million plus is no comparison. Stanford is looking for Leaders, and Pioneers and not just an over achiever. Being an over achiever is bare minimum just to even have your application looked at.
no legacy
Great video man! I have applied to Stanford RD from India…..
Did u get in
@@t.s5806 i dont if he got in or not, but he's attending msu
Bro the first 2 minutes and already speaking faxs. Great video! Earned a sub🤝🤝🤝🤝
Hello, love your video ! May I know your SAT/ACT score?
No Spike. Great at goals that others set.
So, you say these top flight colleges are looking for the new Steve Jobs. Well, you know that he never did graduate from some minor league Reed College, right? Neither did Bill Gates of that FB fella. You seem like a super-geek. Who wants to be that. BTW, doesn't Stanford have a pretty good football team? You think those jocks are working on their National Math competition awards?
But Gates and Zuckerberg got in to Harvard, they just didn't finish. It doesn't mean that these schools aren't looking for the next one, they absolutely are. Figuratively and literally, Steve's son Reed Jobs got in and attended Stanford, son of Steve and a Stanford alumna. And quite a number of slots at Stanford go to people without half Amy's credentials, the legacy kids.And actually the Stanford football team is made up of good student athletes too. They're not stupid.
@@carmensandiego7749 You're absolutely right. My bad.
Aren't you in PRI?
who the frick are you mate XD
if your pissed about what he said your probably mediocre
its true DX@@hypejuice1321
ur gonna go to a community college probably lmao
I'm average in study and no eca. How can I get scholarship?
DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD IT IS TO QULIFY FOR AIME??
hands down best college UA-camr out there 🙌
Did someone say she got into Caltech? Then she got into better places than Stanford and should quit whining and quit ruminating on her "mistakes", what a ridiculous waste of her study time. Put the camera down and get to work young lady, move forward not backwards in life. 😂😂😂
Bad critique
When you say admission do you mean admission with a scholarship? Because I always thought that you can go to any college or university in the US if you pay the full tuition fee.
hi! This may not be for any college, but generally in the US colleges will not accept everybody. There are acceptance rates, which makes the application process super competitive and stressful. Even if you are paying full ride there is not a secured spot for you! Many colleges do offer scholarships however. I probably explained it confusingly so watch videos if you are still wondering!
nope you have to get accepted first then pay full tuition (unless you get financial aid)
Preaching P you are a blessing fr. I've been working at a pharmacy- counting medications, packaging them etc. When applying for BS/MD school should I mention this or does it seem like I was interested in pharmacy?
Definitely put it on your application, but based on exactly what you did, play around with the positioning. If you were not paid, then this could be a very cool volunteering-related activity. If you were paid, then still put it on your application, but perhaps write about it in a different light when you make your "why do you want to be a doctor?" essay. For example, you worked in the pharmacy and learned a lot about that sector of medicine, but you realized that you wanted to work more directly with people which is why you're not going to become a pharmacist (you could refine this logic a lot more).
Did somebody important graduated from Stanford?
Sounds like survivorship bias.
I wont work so hard to get into any university
Your advice is heavily skewed and biased. There’s plenty that got accepted with only state awards
Hey P! Any tips on going for awards in your Junior year? Thanks!
L version of Hamza
Coincidental forcing of a carbon bond pair to add a conclusion to behavior from demographic from slumdog. But it’s not the Iranians yet.
no bs indeed, great reaction vid
Hello, I am applying to Stanford as an INTERNATIONAL TRANSFER APPLICANT. Do you think I should apply for first year under regular decision as well, just to increase my chances of getting in
Not possible because u already have college credit
Stanford rejected her because not everything is about grades. Stanford wants people that are exceptional at something very specific outside academics. Asians need to understand that.
She's very clearly shown herself to be a top-tier math student through competition wins, and leadership positions in and out of school. Her grades are simply the benchmark for excellence. You should try generalizing less and understand that Asian people can't help having such strong academics, and imposing racial quotas and then reducing them to simply antisocial "study hard never play" candidates is unfair.
@@Sid-vz8rm Every Stanford admit is extremely good at math. Every Stanford admit was head or vice head of their student body. Unless you're an IMO gold or silver medalist, that just isn't good enough. What does she offer apart from being just another Asian math genius? That's practically every Asian applicant already
@@Sid-vz8rm Has she tried applying to elite UK universities? The grades alone would carry her there. In the US though, there's no way she's getting into HYPSM with that run-of-the-mill application. Especially not as an Asian.
@@t.s5806if she was like every stanford admit, why is she not one of them themselves? IMO Gold and Silver Medalists are 2 a year, and so 8 every 4 years of high school. You believe every stanford admit has some level of achievement as noteworthy as that?
@@t.s5806I'm familiar with the UK and its focus on grades, yes. It doesn't make this a run-of-the-mill application. The lowest level of achievement is maybe the community service and that still shows commitment and interest. Even with as much downplaying of her honors as humanly possible, as much downplaying of her leadership roles to simply run-of-the-mill good student extracurricular activities, the plain truth is Stanford accepts around 2000 applicants a year, and 2000 applicants will not all have national-level placements and honors.
You are awesome! I am a mom of a high school senior and I love all your videos.
“I promise you it’s not that serious” 😂
Introduction
Sorry, it just shows what a joke the college admission process is
WWW rant about the asian thing
DEI
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