Huge thank you @artofdrink for helping me out with this project! This is truly a game changer! Spread the word, make it, share it and let's stop wasting citrus in the industry ;) Thanks for the support. Cheers!
Thank you for this amazing video. Unfortunately, we can't get access to 95% alcohol in this part of the world. Is there anything else I can use? Perhaps a high-proof vodka, rum, or gin?
@@SoulOnSunday use the highest proof neutral spirit you can find. Depending on the essential oil, some will dissolve more easily in lower proof spirit. If you see it’s not creating a stable solution (meaning it separates) just shake the bottle between usage. Hope this helps Cheers
Gotta say, I’m really loving your new content lately. I think you’re putting yourself in a really unique place amongst the other great cocktail channels and I’m sooo here for it. This type of stuff is one of the main reason I enjoy making cocktails, and from you I’m learning to expand what I can do without just buying tons of new spirits. I have 6 tinctures aging right now!
I do like the peel, expres oils and garnish as the finishing touch when I am at a cocktail bar buying a quality cocktail, but I have always wanted something like this for my home bar to avoid wasting citrus. Thank you!
I understand what you're saying. That said, I like minimalist and I'm wondering if the surprise of having a super arotaized cocktail without a zest could have a stunning effect. What you think?
I feel the same way. If I'm out at a a bar/restaurant I want the bartender to go that extra mile and give me a nice big spring of mint, peel, candied ginger etc. But home cooking and mixology is a different beast, where efficient use of ingredients with 90% of the results wins
I've been using aerosolized essential oil straight with moderate results. I went ahead and ordered some p.glycol and made a batch of "the sauce" and it is a definite improvement! You just made a lot of home cocktail enthusiasts happy 👍
I bartend at a cocktail bar, and I have wanted a safe formula like this for a while! Thankyou! The main reason for me is because I feel like a lot of the oranges where I buy my produce just don't have nice thick oily skins. And when they are thin and don't express the amount of oil I want, I wanted this to make sure my cocktails are still tasting great.
I tried the recipe with orange and lemon. However, the recipe was a bit too much for my 50 ml spray bottles. Therefore, I used the following on my second attempt: 8 ml essential oil 16 ml propylene glycol 24 ml highproof alcohol (96,5%) That worked really well for me. Thank you!
I'm glad you took the essential oil links out of your description. I purchased the ones previously linked and had an awful reaction that sent me to the doctor. I made lemon, orange, and grapefruit versions. Needless to say, the spray bottles now live in the bathroom to be used as toilet spray. If anyone has any brands or websites to purchase safe essential oils from, please comment. I don't know if I read the GRAS list wrong or what, but the listed ingredient was the only ingredient on the oils I had. Kind of scared to try this again...
Hey there, first I’m very confused and sorry about what you experienced. I’m sorry because never I wished to lead anyone into making something potentially dangerous. But I’m also confused because GRAS means generally recognized as safe. This is not about how the essential oil is made rather than what’s the ingredients itself. If it’s gras, it’s gras … period. For example, orange, lemon, mint… these essential oils are gras because they should come from orange, lemon or mint which are all recognized as safe in the real world… so I really don’t understand what could have happened. I will recommend, to reassure you to watch Darcy’s video about how to safely use essential oils. It’s linked in the show notes. Again, I’m sorry for what you have experienced but I really don’t understand what could have happened and it should never have happened if what you bought was GRAS oils. Maybe you should check if you have allergies… Hope you are doing good. Cheers
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks all good, man. I'm not blaming you and sorry if it came across that way. I'm fine now. Just a couple days of issues. Your content is great and I'll continue watching and experimenting with you. I'm not sure what went wrong either. The only thing I can think of is the oils. I didn't realize general links go to different storefronts based on your locale and may change the item listed. I even bought graduated cylinders to precisely measure ingredients. I did watch Darcy's video beforehand as well. I just wish at least one brand or provider was given as I'm sure different brands adhere to different standards. I understand why it's behind a paywall though. But as this is all I'm interested in, it's a hard sell for me.
Awesome. I have been using food grade citrus oils (only component is the oil of the citrus) for quite a long time. Many candy maker/supply store have them. Great and easy way to have the zest without the waste and be shelf stable.
I have been doing this for about 9 months now really is a game changer. Having fresh citrus on hand without wasting is a pain in the ass. Currently using essential oil and vodka, not the MCT
I don’t drink Much vodka, but is is a great carrier. I do the same with essential oils, and I use it in my pie crust recipe in place of water. It evaporates and makes it super flakey. Not relevant here, other than to say vodka actually has a few good uses! 😂
Try adding the propylene Glycol to the mix, you will see how big of a difference it makes. The aroma is stronger and last longer, not to mention it also helps to keep the oily voscosity at the surface of the cocktail like a real zest expression
I have had a similar idea for a long time but haven't had the time or experience to look into it. Thank you so much to you and @ArtofDrink (whom I'm a supporter of)
Does anyone have any good links on how safe ingesting essential oils? There was quite the array of varying opinions on whether they're safe or not. I know they're in our foods often but curious what the PPM versus this would be?
Made this and it has been amazing. Not only for making making my travel bar lighter and better, but also a great technique to use for other scents/oils! Thanks JF
We're gonna' be trying this for sure! Not sure if I'm right about this, but oftentimes I feel I notice that a peel in a drink will intensify and cause the drink to change the longer it is in there. I wonder if this method misses out on that magic or if I'm crazy and that's not a thing 😂😜
Love the channel, thx a bunch. Wether this way you're saving oranges remains to be seen. that depends on what the manufacturer of the essential orange oil does which his remaining oranges ;)
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks It is amazing! May sound strange but I use a few spritz to flavor even my plain yogurt or cream cheese crepe filling! Thanks again for sharing😊
I promptly prepared a batch of lemon "sauce" and used it for my Creole Cocktail saving the life of a fresh lemon. Thank you for sharing the recipe, cheers!
Just made these and they worked out perfectly with your recipe! Thank you :) I did manage to waste half a bottle of essential oil when I tried to open the dripper but I think I still have a good few sprays left.
Really the savings is possibly more significant for home use....how many times does something get thrown out after making only one or two cocktails. This is a pretty big improvement.
Ive been doing this for years minus the propelene glycol. Its great for cookings as well. Definitely going to have to try adding some propelene glycol. I am a bit surprised by how much essential oil you used though. I use significantly less than that.
You can always use less but I feel I need more spray to get to the level or aroma I get with real orange zest. I really recommend you try with the Propylene Glycol. You will get a longer lasting and stronger aroma.
I have a question that was not covered in the video, and I haven't seen it in the comments. It has to do with the storage of the sauce. I'm thinking that it should be refrigerated, but I would like to know for sure. It seems like refrigerating it will make it a bit more solid and not spray as well. If it is to be refrigerated, should you let it warm a bit before using it?
You can get away with lower proff spirit. The only thing is the solution will not be stable (it will not stay homogenized) but if you shake your spray bottle everytime before using it, it can work fine
I definitely love how this technique allows for easy iteration when trying to use different oils! Love to steal some different ones from my mother's supplies xD
Hey JF! I’ve just been spraying food grade essential oils on the tops of my cocktails and I like the results. Not sure what’s wrong with that? Propylene glycol is not easy to find in France I don’t think.
Made one mistake making mine. Thought to myself "hey this essential oil stuff is expensive" and used the alcohol to wash out the bottle to get every last drop. That turned out to be a mistake. I think the last bit of oil coating the inside of the bottle is heavier with turpentines and leaves a bit floating at the top. not a huge deal as you just have to shake it a little after each use, but I think you're better off just living with the little bit of product loss.
I think saying that it reduces all that waste is misleading unless you know that the factory that made the essential oils used the juice from all the oranges. It just transfers the waste higher up in the economic chain.
Hi Thomas, that’s a good point. That being said, most decent oils companies are buying the scraps from the food industry, so yes we can hope for waste reduction
I make way way fewer stirred cocktails than shaken so I pretty much will never use as many swaths as I need citruses to juice. But I do have a nice old-timey perfume bottle filled with lemon oil just 'cause it's cute and I'm lazy.
At least 6 months, probably longer but orange oils slowly degrade over time no matter how they are stored, up to about a year before they really go off.
I LOVE this!! I’ve tried my own versions to get something similar results, but nothing comes close to what you made. Do you think I can use this to make a flame?
The higher the proof, the better you will be able to dissolve the oils. Especially orange oils because they are harder to dissolve compare to others. If you use lower proof, it will separate but it’s not a big deal as long as you shake it each time before spraying it.
Hi JF!! I'm looking forward to try this one. I don't know how grass essential oil would be translated to portuguese or spanish but I found a sweet orange cold pressed oil here and I'm wondering if that is the safe one to use. Can you tell if that's the one?
The term he uses is GRAS, acronym for Generally Recognized As Safe, which is a designation from the US FDA (Food and Drug Administration) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generally_recognized_as_safe
Would be interesting to see how well this would work with 60% alcohol. That's the maximum legal amount I can get in Norway. Surely, if it separates a bit, you can just shake it up a bit before use?
What an amazing timing for this video! Thank you so much for this! I've been using orange bitters in a spray bottle for a while but wasn't satisfied with the results. I stumbled upon Darcy's channel about a month ago and went through his essential oil videos to do what you just did. I've hit a roadblock on the high proof alcohol. The SAQ no longer offers Global 94%. Everclear was never available either... So the only option left would be a local distillery neutral grain spirit at 70% ABV. I'm wondering if it will get the job done as good or if I'll need to make some adjustments. What's your take on it? Also, since watching Darcy's videos, that bottle of Acid Phosphate I've got has been calling me name 😁
With some 70% alcohol you can get away but it won't be stable. Meaning you'll have to shake it a little everytime you will use it but that's not such a big deal. That said, that's for orange EO. With other EO, it won't be as bad because the level of turpene is lower.
@@thomasprasloski6517 The highest proof I managed to find was a locally made 140 proof neutral grain spirit. It works very well but the mixture separates quickly. All I do is shake the bottle before spraying. However, my biggest issue is with the spray bottles. Specifically for the Orange version, I have not yet found a spray bottle that is made well enough to work more than a handful of times before clogging and becoming unusable. Maybe the bottles I got struggle with thicker and oily solutions. Or, perhaps, either the lower proof spirit and/or the sweet orange essential oil brand (Divine Essence) I used are making the solution thicker than it should be. On the flip side, the Lemon version works great with those same bottles 9/10 times. I have not yet tried the bottles JF suggests in the video. I'll have to give those a shot.
Salut! J’ai vraiment envie d’essayer cette sauce. Malheureusement, je vis au Québec et la SAQ ne vend plus d’alcool à 95%. Est-ce que c’est dangereux d’utiliser de l’acool « ethyl »? La bouteille la plus élevé en alcool est de 75% (black seal rum)
60 would be the minimum to dilute some of the oils (orange oils being one of the most difficult to dissolve) but anything lower than 80%, you will have to give a quick shake to your bottle each time you will use it.
What you think of we are taking your mix and infusing with some orange peel ? It's not gonna be even stronger in orange ? Or take out the essential oils and infuse the alcohol and prophylene glycol with orange peel ?
Orange peel has water in it and because of the high terpene content in orange oil that water may cause it to separate. Orange oil is difficult to work with if you add water to the mix.
You can get away with it but the solution will not be as stable. Meaning it will probably seperate between usage but with a quick shake just before using it, it should be fine. Hope this helps
You will need a whole lot of spent citrus to make your own. Essential citrus oils usually come from the juice industry. They have enought spent citrus to make the oil but to make this at home... That's going to be a lot of effort for very little result
I don't think it will. That said, I know it exists in Ontario but I think you need a special license to purchase it. Maybe if you hae a friend working in a bar who knows the owner, you could try to see if you can make someting happen...
I found a company in Saskatchewan recently called Strathcona Spirits that sells and ships a product called Clear Stock that is a 96% grain alcohol and they ship to Ontario. It is a large jug (4L) so I've been looking for other things to use it for myself.
@Kori Sanderson pharmaceutical grade tends to have additives that make it taste bad to discourage people from drinking it. Won't always work out but might be an option
I cannot find 95% alcohol in my area, rumor has it 151 can be obtained but haven't seen it and Everclear is the strongest I can find. What tweaks to the recipe would you start with using Everclear? Great videos!
As long as your abv is higher than the Chartreuse, you can easily pull this out. Rather than lowering it to 80% and then using water at the final step, use more alcohol. You will simply have to do your own math with the abv of your alcohol to achieve the same result
EDIT: Silly me, as I wrote I tested with an empty glass, but over an actual cocktail (in wide glass), it works as described. So please ignore the comment below. Reporting back: I've bought the same essential orange oil and Propyl Glycol, as well as a high-quality 96.5% alcohol (marketed for making liqueurs etc.). On its own, the oil smells amazing! Then I made the juice and sprayed it over an empty glass for testing and... it smells of alcohol and a bit of orange, not what I expected from your description. Maybe the smell will make more sense on top of an actual drink (e.g, Old Fashioned? will try soon)? Does it depend on the kind of glass I use? Do I need to shake this way more than I thought? Thanks for your thoughts on this.
Hi there! First I'm really sorry to hear this didn't turn out as well as you expected. That said, I'm very surprised to hear that you get a lot of alcohol smell and not a lot of citrus aroma. Believe me, I tried the formula wiith many different oils and it was a hit every time. No alcohol smell and PACKED with citrus aroma, even more than with real citrus. In order to help you out, I really want you to be happy with this, the only problem I can see is 1- the essence oil you used was not 100% pure cold pressed GRAS essential oil or 2- there was a mistake in the measurments Feel free to send me a DM on Instgram at @jfdesfosses and send me some pirctures of what the products you used and we'll figure this out. Cheers!
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks Silly me, as I wrote I tested with an empty glass, but over an actual cocktail (in wide glass), it works as described. I've added an edit to the top of my initial comment. Or should I just delete this whole thread?
We didn't have 95% at my local liqour store. Would 76.5% work ? Or it it essential that I find 95%? Thank you so much for the informational content! I can not wait to finish this product!
Amazing techinique, my friend. But high proof spirits are forbidden in Brazil... I was wondering if I could replicate the recipe with 96% grain alcohol?
Is the orange essential oil you linked in the description GRAS? I'm not seeing it in the Amazon description but perhaps I missed it. The label of the product also says for "External use only." I'm sure you wouldn't link an unsafe essential oil but I just want to make extra sure
Well it’s an Amazon link using a plugging to redirect viewers to their local Amazon storefront. If you are not in Spain where I got the link from, maybe it redirect you to a wrong Eo.
I love this idea of using essential oils to reduce waste. How long does the spray last? Do you need to refrigerate? My brain is thinking of the many other oils you could make. love it. cheers
The essential oils are not soluble in water so you need a high alcohol content to dissolve them, especially orange essential oils which are even harder to dissolve than the other ones. So Vodka at 40% will not dissolve it unfortunately
Good to know, but I don't have a lot of citrus waste. If I use an orange slice for garnish, I've probably already zested the rest of the orange for cooking and eaten the fruit as a cook's bonus. I eat lemons, limes, and grapefruits, too, so the only part I throw in the garbage is the pith. I like the idea of a sprayable oil, but it doesn't have to be so complicated. Couldn't you simply dissolve manually acquired or commercially prepared culinary oils in 95% ethanol and call it a day? MCT is great for people who follow a keto lifestyle and PEG is GRAS, so there's no harm in it, but you'd get the same thing by twisting a bunch of lemon peels over a saucer of Everclear. What I want is to find a use for peach skins, because that's the one thing I always throw away.
Ha! I actually ended up with the same shaker & spoon set (birthday gift from my wife) and also thought the orange oil spray was a game-changer. In fact, I had already ordered orange and grapefruit oils and more atomizers before I saw your video, not realizing that I needed to mix it with anything. I'm so glad that you and @artofdrink did the legwork here, I'll be mixing this up later today. I make a few cocktails a week for myself and rarely more than that, so shelf-stable options like this are a big deal. Thanks for the video!
Propyleneglycol by itself has a slight sugary taste, but i guess it's not potent enough when put together with the essential oil to really mess with its taste
Huge thank you @artofdrink for helping me out with this project! This is truly a game changer! Spread the word, make it, share it and let's stop wasting citrus in the industry ;) Thanks for the support. Cheers!
Thanks, great video, as usual.
Great video. @artofdrink is the man. His channel has been super helpful in my cocktail adventures - especially in the bitters / extract world.
Thank you for this amazing video. Unfortunately, we can't get access to 95% alcohol in this part of the world. Is there anything else I can use? Perhaps a high-proof vodka, rum, or gin?
@@SoulOnSunday use the highest proof neutral spirit you can find. Depending on the essential oil, some will dissolve more easily in lower proof spirit. If you see it’s not creating a stable solution (meaning it separates) just shake the bottle between usage. Hope this helps
Cheers
@SoulOnSunday the higher the proof, the less water you have, and the mixture you be clearer and more stable.
Gotta say, I’m really loving your new content lately. I think you’re putting yourself in a really unique place amongst the other great cocktail channels and I’m sooo here for it. This type of stuff is one of the main reason I enjoy making cocktails, and from you I’m learning to expand what I can do without just buying tons of new spirits. I have 6 tinctures aging right now!
Phenomenal! I'm ecstatic to hear this! Thanks for the support. Have fun with the tincture. Such a cool world of possibilities. Cheers!
I do like the peel, expres oils and garnish as the finishing touch when I am at a cocktail bar buying a quality cocktail, but I have always wanted something like this for my home bar to avoid wasting citrus. Thank you!
I understand what you're saying. That said, I like minimalist and I'm wondering if the surprise of having a super arotaized cocktail without a zest could have a stunning effect. What you think?
I feel the same way. If I'm out at a a bar/restaurant I want the bartender to go that extra mile and give me a nice big spring of mint, peel, candied ginger etc. But home cooking and mixology is a different beast, where efficient use of ingredients with 90% of the results wins
between this, super juice, acid adjustment solutions... there is so much to do to level up your cocktails and "streamline" cocktail making at home
I've been using aerosolized essential oil straight with moderate results. I went ahead and ordered some p.glycol and made a batch of "the sauce" and it is a definite improvement! You just made a lot of home cocktail enthusiasts happy 👍
I bartend at a cocktail bar, and I have wanted a safe formula like this for a while!
Thankyou!
The main reason for me is because I feel like a lot of the oranges where I buy my produce just don't have nice thick oily skins. And when they are thin and don't express the amount of oil I want, I wanted this to make sure my cocktails are still tasting great.
You just found yourself the perfect solution ;) Hope you give this a try. If so, let me know how you like it. Cheers!
I tried the recipe with orange and lemon.
However, the recipe was a bit too much for my 50 ml spray bottles.
Therefore, I used the following on my second attempt:
8 ml essential oil
16 ml propylene glycol
24 ml highproof alcohol (96,5%)
That worked really well for me. Thank you!
How have I never seen this video before? Really great! Thank you so much
Thank you! I hope you'll love it!
Juat made it, tastes delicious! Thanks for the recipe, your videos are amazing.
I'm glad you took the essential oil links out of your description. I purchased the ones previously linked and had an awful reaction that sent me to the doctor. I made lemon, orange, and grapefruit versions. Needless to say, the spray bottles now live in the bathroom to be used as toilet spray. If anyone has any brands or websites to purchase safe essential oils from, please comment. I don't know if I read the GRAS list wrong or what, but the listed ingredient was the only ingredient on the oils I had. Kind of scared to try this again...
Hey there, first I’m very confused and sorry about what you experienced. I’m sorry because never I wished to lead anyone into making something potentially dangerous. But I’m also confused because GRAS means generally recognized as safe. This is not about how the essential oil is made rather than what’s the ingredients itself. If it’s gras, it’s gras … period. For example, orange, lemon, mint… these essential oils are gras because they should come from orange, lemon or mint which are all recognized as safe in the real world… so I really don’t understand what could have happened. I will recommend, to reassure you to watch Darcy’s video about how to safely use essential oils. It’s linked in the show notes. Again, I’m sorry for what you have experienced but I really don’t understand what could have happened and it should never have happened if what you bought was GRAS oils. Maybe you should check if you have allergies… Hope you are doing good. Cheers
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks all good, man. I'm not blaming you and sorry if it came across that way. I'm fine now. Just a couple days of issues. Your content is great and I'll continue watching and experimenting with you. I'm not sure what went wrong either. The only thing I can think of is the oils. I didn't realize general links go to different storefronts based on your locale and may change the item listed. I even bought graduated cylinders to precisely measure ingredients. I did watch Darcy's video beforehand as well. I just wish at least one brand or provider was given as I'm sure different brands adhere to different standards. I understand why it's behind a paywall though. But as this is all I'm interested in, it's a hard sell for me.
Awesome. I have been using food grade citrus oils (only component is the oil of the citrus) for quite a long time. Many candy maker/supply store have them. Great and easy way to have the zest without the waste and be shelf stable.
Was literally looking at buying a product to do this last week, now I can make it myself! Amazing!
Happy to hear this! Looking forward to the feedback! Don't forget to share to help reducing waste in the industry ;) CHeers!
Thanks!
Thanks a million 🤩
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks Great content - love the attention to detail !
This is awesome! I love the nerdy side of cocktails. Can't wait to try this out.
Can't wait for you to get 100k, you really deserve it and much more❤
Thank you so much! Can't wait myself too :) Cheers!
Would the ratios you have for this work with vegetable glycerin instead of propylene glycol?
I'd love this for the high volume rooftop bar I work it. It could allow us to pre-cut the garnishes without missing the oils
I'm sure it could be useful!
I have been doing this for about 9 months now really is a game changer. Having fresh citrus on hand without wasting is a pain in the ass. Currently using essential oil and vodka, not the MCT
I don’t drink
Much vodka, but is is a great carrier. I do the same with essential oils, and I use it in my pie crust recipe in place of water. It evaporates and makes it super flakey. Not relevant here, other than to say vodka actually has a few good uses! 😂
Try adding the propylene Glycol to the mix, you will see how big of a difference it makes. The aroma is stronger and last longer, not to mention it also helps to keep the oily voscosity at the surface of the cocktail like a real zest expression
I have had a similar idea for a long time but haven't had the time or experience to look into it.
Thank you so much to you and @ArtofDrink (whom I'm a supporter of)
I hope you will adopt this formula. Cheers!
Is there a certain type of alcohol needed for safe consumption ? For example: isopropyl, ethanyl, etc? Thanks JF, your content is awesome!
Does anyone have any good links on how safe ingesting essential oils? There was quite the array of varying opinions on whether they're safe or not. I know they're in our foods often but curious what the PPM versus this would be?
Made this and it has been amazing. Not only for making making my travel bar lighter and better, but also a great technique to use for other scents/oils! Thanks JF
This makes me extremely happy to hear! Thanks a lot. Cheers!
I just love content creators that reference each other!
We're gonna' be trying this for sure! Not sure if I'm right about this, but oftentimes I feel I notice that a peel in a drink will intensify and cause the drink to change the longer it is in there. I wonder if this method misses out on that magic or if I'm crazy and that's not a thing 😂😜
Thank you so much..bro!!🎉
Love the channel, thx a bunch. Wether this way you're saving oranges remains to be seen. that depends on what the manufacturer of the essential orange oil does which his remaining oranges ;)
I had been pondering this exact issue recently, thank you for breaking it down!
I hope you will like it!
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks It is amazing! May sound strange but I use a few spritz to flavor even my plain yogurt or cream cheese crepe filling! Thanks again for sharing😊
Have you tried this with anything other than citrus? Mint, for instance? It seems like it should work with just about any food grade essential oil.
Absolutely. This formula can be applied, the same way with any other GRAS essential oil for aromatic mist.
I promptly prepared a batch of lemon "sauce" and used it for my Creole Cocktail saving the life of a fresh lemon. Thank you for sharing the recipe, cheers!
Cheers to that! Let us all know how it turns out when you try it. Cheers!
OMG 😲 So many cocktails I want to try with amazing oil!!! Can't wait!! 🖤
Name one 😉
Just made these and they worked out perfectly with your recipe! Thank you :) I did manage to waste half a bottle of essential oil when I tried to open the dripper but I think I still have a good few sprays left.
Really the savings is possibly more significant for home use....how many times does something get thrown out after making only one or two cocktails. This is a pretty big improvement.
does grain alcohol work. I can only get regular 80proof vodka, or 151
Ive been doing this for years minus the propelene glycol. Its great for cookings as well. Definitely going to have to try adding some propelene glycol.
I am a bit surprised by how much essential oil you used though. I use significantly less than that.
You can always use less but I feel I need more spray to get to the level or aroma I get with real orange zest. I really recommend you try with the Propylene Glycol. You will get a longer lasting and stronger aroma.
Bravo! Glad you found the answer!!... 🥳🎉🍹
Merci mon amie!!! I'm stoked with the result :)
Great video!!! I'd love to do it myself but where can I purchase all the ingredients that you use in the video?
Take care!!
I have a question that was not covered in the video, and I haven't seen it in the comments. It has to do with the storage of the sauce. I'm thinking that it should be refrigerated, but I would like to know for sure. It seems like refrigerating it will make it a bit more solid and not spray as well. If it is to be refrigerated, should you let it warm a bit before using it?
No need for refrigeration
I'm pretty good about eating the oranges afterward, but I'm definitely gonna be giving this a try/
I’m wondering how well this would work for mint. Maybe put some on before stirring/ shaking
Is it possible to do it without the high proof alcohol? Since it impossible to get where i lived
Yes would love to know if 150 proof will work as well because 190 proof unavailable to purchase where I live too.
Great video. Curious if you know (or can ask) how this mixture would compare to using orange extract (which also has alcohol, but also has water).
This is so fascinating! High proof alcohol can be hard to find unfortunately. I like the idea of reducing waste! 👍
You can get away with lower proff spirit. The only thing is the solution will not be stable (it will not stay homogenized) but if you shake your spray bottle everytime before using it, it can work fine
CA resident here, happy to find this comment... i think 60% is the highest we can get here (legally... 😅)
I can’t seem to find that alcohol either. I’m in Illinois.
I definitely love how this technique allows for easy iteration when trying to use different oils! Love to steal some different ones from my mother's supplies xD
This is indeed not limited to citrus aroma. It opens up a whole world of possibilities! Cheers!
Use caution with anything other than citrus. The safe upper limits for many essential oils is quite low.
I've happily been using Shaker & Spoon's aromatics. Great stuff!
Great stuff indeed.
Hey JF! I’ve just been spraying food grade essential oils on the tops of my cocktails and I like the results. Not sure what’s wrong with that? Propylene glycol is not easy to find in France I don’t think.
Made one mistake making mine. Thought to myself "hey this essential oil stuff is expensive" and used the alcohol to wash out the bottle to get every last drop. That turned out to be a mistake.
I think the last bit of oil coating the inside of the bottle is heavier with turpentines and leaves a bit floating at the top. not a huge deal as you just have to shake it a little after each use, but I think you're better off just living with the little bit of product loss.
I think saying that it reduces all that waste is misleading unless you know that the factory that made the essential oils used the juice from all the oranges. It just transfers the waste higher up in the economic chain.
Hi Thomas, that’s a good point. That being said, most decent oils companies are buying the scraps from the food industry, so yes we can hope for waste reduction
I make way way fewer stirred cocktails than shaken so I pretty much will never use as many swaths as I need citruses to juice. But I do have a nice old-timey perfume bottle filled with lemon oil just 'cause it's cute and I'm lazy.
Can I scale to do half usiny 5ml orange, 10ml Propylene and 18.25 ml? I just want to test with different oils and then scale the one that I prefer
How long do these stay good for, you mentioned at least a month in the vid but I’m curious how long they will last.
It is shelf stable. You can go ahead and make some without worrying about this.
At least 6 months, probably longer but orange oils slowly degrade over time no matter how they are stored, up to about a year before they really go off.
I LOVE this!! I’ve tried my own versions to get something similar results, but nothing comes close to what you made.
Do you think I can use this to make a flame?
I wanted to ask the same thing, I ended up simply trying but can't say if it worked the same as a peel in this regard anyway :)
For the lemon one, did you use the same amount of essential oil as the orange one?
Can you use grain alcohol that is 151 proof?
what if i cant find alcool 95 % proof? amazing channel thanks in advance
The higher the proof, the better you will be able to dissolve the oils. Especially orange oils because they are harder to dissolve compare to others. If you use lower proof, it will separate but it’s not a big deal as long as you shake it each time before spraying it.
@TrufflesOnTheRocks it possible tu use gliceryne instead of propylene glycol
Not really. Glycerin will add texture but fill not fix the elements like Propylene glycol will
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks im tested this out, it delaminates, but after shake in bootel become well homogeneous and work with atomizer
Hi JF!! I'm looking forward to try this one. I don't know how grass essential oil would be translated to portuguese or spanish but I found a sweet orange cold pressed oil here and I'm wondering if that is the safe one to use. Can you tell if that's the one?
The term he uses is GRAS, acronym for Generally Recognized As Safe, which is a designation from the US FDA (Food and Drug Administration)
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generally_recognized_as_safe
Would be interesting to see how well this would work with 60% alcohol. That's the maximum legal amount I can get in Norway. Surely, if it separates a bit, you can just shake it up a bit before use?
what if you spray only the essential oil?
What an amazing timing for this video! Thank you so much for this!
I've been using orange bitters in a spray bottle for a while but wasn't satisfied with the results.
I stumbled upon Darcy's channel about a month ago and went through his essential oil videos to do what you just did. I've hit a roadblock on the high proof alcohol.
The SAQ no longer offers Global 94%. Everclear was never available either... So the only option left would be a local distillery neutral grain spirit at 70% ABV. I'm wondering if it will get the job done as good or if I'll need to make some adjustments.
What's your take on it?
Also, since watching Darcy's videos, that bottle of Acid Phosphate I've got has been calling me name 😁
With some 70% alcohol you can get away but it won't be stable. Meaning you'll have to shake it a little everytime you will use it but that's not such a big deal. That said, that's for orange EO. With other EO, it won't be as bad because the level of turpene is lower.
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks Shaking it before use really isn't a problem. I'll give it a shot and report back.
Merci JF!
@@LeTopShelfI have the same challenge finding 190 proof spirit. Did you have success with lower ABV spirit?
@@thomasprasloski6517 The highest proof I managed to find was a locally made 140 proof neutral grain spirit. It works very well but the mixture separates quickly. All I do is shake the bottle before spraying.
However, my biggest issue is with the spray bottles. Specifically for the Orange version, I have not yet found a spray bottle that is made well enough to work more than a handful of times before clogging and becoming unusable. Maybe the bottles I got struggle with thicker and oily solutions. Or, perhaps, either the lower proof spirit and/or the sweet orange essential oil brand (Divine Essence) I used are making the solution thicker than it should be.
On the flip side, the Lemon version works great with those same bottles 9/10 times.
I have not yet tried the bottles JF suggests in the video. I'll have to give those a shot.
Do you have a shelf life estimate? Should it be refrigerated?
It should last at least 6 months, no refrigeration required
Any idea of this needs to be refrigerated after? Or will this last at room temp?
Room temp no problem.
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks thanks! Making it tonight!
Hey I feel like I remember Darcy saying something in this will dissolve the plastic spray bottles over time. Is this accurate? I haven't tried yet.
Salut! J’ai vraiment envie d’essayer cette sauce. Malheureusement, je vis au Québec et la SAQ ne vend plus d’alcool à 95%. Est-ce que c’est dangereux d’utiliser de l’acool « ethyl »? La bouteille la plus élevé en alcool est de 75% (black seal rum)
What is the minimum alcohol content that you can use? Finding 95% alcohol in Ontario is a pain, any suggestions would help
60 would be the minimum to dilute some of the oils (orange oils being one of the most difficult to dissolve) but anything lower than 80%, you will have to give a quick shake to your bottle each time you will use it.
Thank you so much! Love your content :)@@TrufflesOnTheRocks
For how long can you keep the flavor
What you think of we are taking your mix and infusing with some orange peel ? It's not gonna be even stronger in orange ? Or take out the essential oils and infuse the alcohol and prophylene glycol with orange peel ?
Orange peel has water in it and because of the high terpene content in orange oil that water may cause it to separate. Orange oil is difficult to work with if you add water to the mix.
Thanks Darrcy for the explanation! Much appreicated :)
DARCY THE MVP !
Absolutely! Cheers!
Love Darcy
What’s a good food safe essential oil brand?
This is great! I’m gonna have to share it with friends in the bar/restaurant industry. (Also, that’s a class Casio world timer I see 👀 🙌)
Happy to hear you will share within your network. Thanks for that. And yes, that's a Class Casio Word ;)
Is there a shelf life for this recipe?
I love this idea, but how am I going to eat as many oranges if I don't have a bunch of peeled oranges in the fridge? 😬
HAHAHA!
What do you recommend if we live in a state where 190 proof alcohol is illegal? can we use everclear 120 proof?
You can get away with it but the solution will not be as stable. Meaning it will probably seperate between usage but with a quick shake just before using it, it should be fine. Hope this helps
Does anyone have good recipe to make your own oil? We do fresh squeezed juice so I got plenty peels
You will need a whole lot of spent citrus to make your own. Essential citrus oils usually come from the juice industry. They have enought spent citrus to make the oil but to make this at home... That's going to be a lot of effort for very little result
It's tough finding such high proof spirit here in Ontario. Any idea if it's easier in Quebec?
I don't think it will. That said, I know it exists in Ontario but I think you need a special license to purchase it. Maybe if you hae a friend working in a bar who knows the owner, you could try to see if you can make someting happen...
I found a company in Saskatchewan recently called Strathcona Spirits that sells and ships a product called Clear Stock that is a 96% grain alcohol and they ship to Ontario. It is a large jug (4L) so I've been looking for other things to use it for myself.
Maybe you could get a small amount from your pharmacy. (Where you get your Dr scripts filled)
@Kori Sanderson pharmaceutical grade tends to have additives that make it taste bad to discourage people from drinking it. Won't always work out but might be an option
Sorry if a dumb question but what did you add at the 7:22 mark that was referred to as harmogenised and stable?
The 95% alcohol
The highproof spirit is the way we dissolve the oil and make it water soluble. Since it is then dissolved, it is stable, meaning it won'T seperate.
@@TrufflesOnTheRocksThanks for responding Jean-Felix cheers 🥃
Can i use 85% alcohol to mix the two? Because where i am no vendor has 95 its up until 85 please let me know.
Yes the alcohol is just a solvent. You can honestly use just regular vodka the higher proof is going to help with the lingering aroma and shelf life.
Your spot on with that intro about using the orange later 😂🥃👍
HAHA! Glad I'm not alone
I cannot find 95% alcohol in my area, rumor has it 151 can be obtained but haven't seen it and Everclear is the strongest I can find. What tweaks to the recipe would you start with using Everclear? Great videos!
As long as your abv is higher than the Chartreuse, you can easily pull this out. Rather than lowering it to 80% and then using water at the final step, use more alcohol. You will simply have to do your own math with the abv of your alcohol to achieve the same result
EDIT: Silly me, as I wrote I tested with an empty glass, but over an actual cocktail (in wide glass), it works as described. So please ignore the comment below.
Reporting back: I've bought the same essential orange oil and Propyl Glycol, as well as a high-quality 96.5% alcohol (marketed for making liqueurs etc.). On its own, the oil smells amazing! Then I made the juice and sprayed it over an empty glass for testing and... it smells of alcohol and a bit of orange, not what I expected from your description. Maybe the smell will make more sense on top of an actual drink (e.g, Old Fashioned? will try soon)? Does it depend on the kind of glass I use? Do I need to shake this way more than I thought? Thanks for your thoughts on this.
Hi there! First I'm really sorry to hear this didn't turn out as well as you expected. That said, I'm very surprised to hear that you get a lot of alcohol smell and not a lot of citrus aroma. Believe me, I tried the formula wiith many different oils and it was a hit every time. No alcohol smell and PACKED with citrus aroma, even more than with real citrus. In order to help you out, I really want you to be happy with this, the only problem I can see is
1- the essence oil you used was not 100% pure cold pressed GRAS essential oil
or
2- there was a mistake in the measurments
Feel free to send me a DM on Instgram at @jfdesfosses and send me some pirctures of what the products you used and we'll figure this out.
Cheers!
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks Silly me, as I wrote I tested with an empty glass, but over an actual cocktail (in wide glass), it works as described. I've added an edit to the top of my initial comment. Or should I just delete this whole thread?
@@stefanherzog thanks for the update. Let’s keep it there 😁 Cheers
We didn't have 95% at my local liqour store. Would 76.5% work ? Or it it essential that I find 95%?
Thank you so much for the informational content! I can not wait to finish this product!
At 76.5%, some oils will not dissolve well but if you shake it every time before spraying it should work ok
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks i meant to reply before you got back to me. I found that answer in the comments. Thank you again!
Great vid! Would this work if with an anise-flavoured EO to replace absinthe?
Maybe but I’ve been using absinthe in a spritzer bottle and one bottle of ansinthe is going to last a lifetime
It can work with any GRAS essential oil
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks I see food grade as labels around here, but not gras do you think it’s the same?
@@ChadWinters Thanks Chad. You are right the absinthe won’t spoil and there is no chance that I make a mistake.
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks Thank you JP.
anyone know what the shelf life is like? Refrigerated i assume?
That’s a good 6 months at room temp
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks amazing! I didn't expect a reply on a 1 year old video. Thank you!
@@madman2572 I’m here man!😉
Amazing techinique, my friend. But high proof spirits are forbidden in Brazil... I was wondering if I could replicate the recipe with 96% grain alcohol?
96% Grain alcohol is higher than what I used. So yes you can use that.
I live in s country where anything above 60% abv is concidered illegal, any way to Get around using the 95% alcohol?
A lower proof spirit will work but the solution won't be as stable. You'll have to shake the bottle before using it.
Can't find Alcool...suggestions?
What you mean? You can't find highproof spirit or you can't buy alcohol at all?
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks apparently we need a special license to purchase 95% in Ontario...hrmph
The highest proof we can buy in-store, in Ontario, is 76%. I don't believe that will work to emulsify the mixture.
@ Truffles On The Rocks can you drop the link or a link for the oil
I just wanna make sure I get the right one or the one you used
I can't link what I bought as a general link for viewers since I'm in Spain right now. Where you living? I'll try to help you out.
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks Boston,Massachusetts
Is the orange essential oil you linked in the description GRAS? I'm not seeing it in the Amazon description but perhaps I missed it. The label of the product also says for "External use only." I'm sure you wouldn't link an unsafe essential oil but I just want to make extra sure
Well it’s an Amazon link using a plugging to redirect viewers to their local Amazon storefront. If you are not in Spain where I got the link from, maybe it redirect you to a wrong Eo.
This is a great idea
Thanks!
Could you use Everclear as the 95% alcohol?
Yes you may. That's exactly what you need
@@TrufflesOnTheRocksI just got some Everclear but I realize it's 94.5% alcohol. Does that make a difference?
@@josephlebo7320 go ahead with that, it’s perfect
I love this idea of using essential oils to reduce waste. How long does the spray last? Do you need to refrigerate? My brain is thinking of the many other oils you could make. love it. cheers
same question here, did you find out ?
How long would these last? Since it's an essential oil I'd assume for months easily??
It should last at least 6 months
Thanks Darcy for jumping in!
How long does this stuff last? Shelf stable?
At least 6 months when kept in decent conditions
@@TrufflesOnTheRocks thanks!
Una de mis técnicas favoritas para ahumar junto al ahumado 🤤🍹💜
So...ya know what DOESN'T work the same as a traditional strip of citrus...?
Flaming.
Yeah...don't do that...
Use vodka instead of alcohol won’t work?
The essential oils are not soluble in water so you need a high alcohol content to dissolve them, especially orange essential oils which are even harder to dissolve than the other ones. So Vodka at 40% will not dissolve it unfortunately
Good to know, but I don't have a lot of citrus waste. If I use an orange slice for garnish, I've probably already zested the rest of the orange for cooking and eaten the fruit as a cook's bonus. I eat lemons, limes, and grapefruits, too, so the only part I throw in the garbage is the pith. I like the idea of a sprayable oil, but it doesn't have to be so complicated. Couldn't you simply dissolve manually acquired or commercially prepared culinary oils in 95% ethanol and call it a day? MCT is great for people who follow a keto lifestyle and PEG is GRAS, so there's no harm in it, but you'd get the same thing by twisting a bunch of lemon peels over a saucer of Everclear. What I want is to find a use for peach skins, because that's the one thing I always throw away.
The highest proof I can get where I live is 75. Would that be ok?
Ha! I actually ended up with the same shaker & spoon set (birthday gift from my wife) and also thought the orange oil spray was a game-changer. In fact, I had already ordered orange and grapefruit oils and more atomizers before I saw your video, not realizing that I needed to mix it with anything. I'm so glad that you and @artofdrink did the legwork here, I'll be mixing this up later today. I make a few cocktails a week for myself and rarely more than that, so shelf-stable options like this are a big deal. Thanks for the video!
Propyleneglycol by itself has a slight sugary taste, but i guess it's not potent enough when put together with the essential oil to really mess with its taste
You are correct, it doesn’t affect the taste