Unifi UDM Pro Max is HERE... but who is it for?
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2024
- Unifi's new iteration of the Dream Machine line, the UDM Pro Max, has arrived! Boasting enterprise level features with huge upgrades in processing power, storage capabilities, and new firmware features, Ubiquiti is starting to position themselves in the MSP space with this offering. We're giving you the overview of the product, what's new, and who it's for.
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0:00 UDM Pro Max
0:30 New features
1:39 Shadow Mode and Automatic Failover
4:35 Failover with Multiple Units
6:54 UDM Pro Max Use Cases
8:24 Unifi in the MSP Space
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Review software was Alpha, but should be in Early Release at time of product unveiling, I will update this post as Firmware goes from Alpha>EA>Full Release. This is needed for full hot swap failover.
Does the UDM Pro Max support LAG?
Great video, thanks for the mention. :)
Thanks Tom!
The brief clip of Randy and Mr. Laney has me as your latest fan and subscriber. I’m new to security tech and look forward to future videos.
Welcome aboard!
Here is the thing. Unifi needs to allow IPS/IDS on some VLANS only.
VLAN Office -> Internet IPS/IDS enables
VLAN DMZ -> Internet IPS/IDS disabled
VLAN DMZ -> VLAN SERVICE Internal traffic IPS/IDS disabled
VLAN SERVICE -> VLAN DATABASE Internet traffic IPS/IDS disabled
This would allow for 10Gb internet connectivity for the servers but enforce IPS/IDS for the users.
Dream machine has been in the gym! Nice
Great review.
Glad you enjoyed it
Nice to have a backup drive for protect, I maxed my udm pro out with protect cameras.
Redundancy is nice..
We have some UDM-Pro's out there at clients who like them and this does seem a decent jump for the larger clients we deal with, the new HA mode seems really nice and looks like it will be nicer than the sonicwalls I am dealing with and the lack there of stateful HA due to no license for it...
I think the UI is so much better for both the MSP and End User.. We are still a SonicWall shop but maybe not for long....
I thought the processing power was equivalent to the UDM Pro SE? Good video
It's actually a pretty good bump in processor and 2x ram and onboard storage.
I was hoping that it could handle quite a bit more cameras than the Pro/SE but according to online tool it doesn’t really. Just a couple extra. Any thoughts?
It’s touting double performance which in my mind puts this closer to a UNVR but seems to fall quite a bit short of that scouting to calculator.
Yeah, the protect install is a little strange to me, most of my clients that need the horse power would just use an NVR Pro the same as not needing POE, 2.5gbE etc... I think it may be that they just want 2 dives in the chassis design moving forward.. Or their target has tons of WAPs and other devices but just a few cameras.. Dunno..
Oooops, WAN speeds mixed up Clay. The SE was able to 2.5Gbps on WAN-1 (Port 9) and 1Gbps on WAN2 (Port 8). The UDM Pro was same but just 1Gbps on ports 8 and 9.
Swapping drives with Protect might see the other drives swapped in wiped and formatted. Good to see they finally getting serious again. I checked out the calculator, claims to handle up to 150 WAP's so double the UDM-Pro and SE. Still was hoping for bigger CPU though.
Good stuff, thanks for posting!
Can you run shadow mode with a UDMPMax as the main device with the slave being a regular UDMP? Also, wish they had upgraded the CPU to handle true 10 gbps IDP/IDS.
You cannot but you will be able to run two udms or two udmse .. when they all get 4.0 u will be able to do it to any 2 similar units.
Hi, could you tell us what the camera limit is on the pro max vs SE? Thanks
Yes, camera limit on UDM Pro Max is -
15 x 4K
25 x 2K
50 x HD
If you aren’t running IDS/IPS is there much reason to get the Max?
No, unless u need redundancy for ur Protect recordings.
Smaller network, but I just bought a UDM SE about 4 days ago.
I have POE switching and APs already as well.
Since I am still within the return window, would it be worth upgrading to the UDM Pro Max right now before I get any further in my network setup?
Unless u have a lot of devices, want hot failover or need drive redundancy, I wouldn't I think the UDMSE is perfect for most users and almost all home users.
@@DPCTechnology Great, thanks for the reply. Gotta be honest, if it had etherlighitng, I would have done it haha. Its totally unnecessary, but it looks cool.
@@jeffrbake LOL, Me too ;P.. Also on the failover, you will be able to do it in the SE as well when the firmware drops..
@@DPCTechnology perfect.
I was looking around. Is it possible to use any shared network drive for protect? IE a windows shared drive?
My se delivered today lol 😆
Does the UDM Pro Max support LAG?
Unless I'm missing something I thought the POE capabilities has been dropped which came with the original UDMP
That is correct, the UDMP and the UDMPMax do not have PoE, the UDMSE does. The thought on the Max is that is for larger installs which will have more PoE switching offboard.
I wish I had more processing power at home. It isn't really about how many network devices I can connect, but more so the CPU needs a better upgrade to allow more WAN IPS throughput with all the other rules and filtering going on. Based on advertised UDM-SE throughput of 3.5gbps and getting a real world 2.5gbps down due to all the security features, I would bet this device and its "5gbps" advertised speed I bet it will also get closer to 3.5-4gbps, which really isn't enough for its price point and means this isn't capable of being used on the newer 5gb, 8gb, and 10gb ISP plans that have been coming out across the US the past year and moving forward. They really should have gone with a newer generation processor than one that is 12 years old, and made this 10gb IPS capable. They should have used at least an A72, or more preferably an A73 CPU core design. The A73 was the most powerful (but still old now) architecture ARM released that is on the exact same instruction architecture as the A57, so would be nearly drop in compatible without having to modify underlying software code.
Edit: They could have gone with something like a Mediatek MT8183 CPU, which is used in low end Chromebooks that retail for two hundred and fifty dollars. That would mean hardware wise, Ubiquiti should be able to make a profit on a gateway based around it that sells for anything more than three hundred - three fifty. And since it would likely be sold for eight hundred instead, that would be huge profit for them and a massive jump in performance for the end user (roughly 2x what the UDM Pro Max can do).
Thanks for the well thought out post. A lot of really good info in there.. I think it's always a balancing act with these manufacturers of what they think people want and are willing to pay for..
Making a video for a product you didn’t have yet ….. SPECULATION !!!!
Nothing new from UDM pro/SE just a second tray for the HDD same performance for internet traffic and no Poe !!!
I've had two units for the last month or so.
Did you watch and listen to the video at all?
Look, someone who commented without actually watching the video, or at least didn’t pay attention at all. He literally says he got two units early in the first 20 seconds of the video.