I Can't Believe This Happened Again!
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Cycling injuries can be extremely frustrating - especially when they aren't even that cycling related. I've talked about being off of the bicycle before with these lower back pains - it is definitely no fun. Thanks god this time it wasn't too bad and hopefully I won't be off the bike too long.
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i here you and feel your pain. getting older hurts, and for no reason things happen that make it worse.
I know that feeling and it really sucks. Feel better
Thanks! The main concern is that it turns into sciatic nerve pain.
I feel for you man. When I have bad flare ups its game over and i have to remember to brace myself if I sneeze. Otherwise, it's game over after the game over. Take care!
I've been there! Glad this time it didn't turn out to be as bad. I rode a bit today.
Right there with ya .... mine is the neck. No idea what I did. In my favorite chair, Ibuprofen, heating pad, and YT vids. Try again tomorrow .....
Hello Tim. Just subscribed to you on the 7th of April. Like what I've seen so far. From Yakima Wa. On the back thing, feel for you. I am 68, been keeping up with my health from early twenties when I did something and was a regular at the chiro. Since then I have made sure to keep the core fairly solid, not always but stayed with it over time. Been biking since six yrs of age. Recently reaffirmed my dedication to biking and all of the other activities. Have my own in home gym set up so no excuses for me. One of my morning routines is some Ti Chi with fluid motion, nothing fast or too far out of norm just to wake up. I then go into the gym and merely hang, like I was doing a pull up, but don't. I started out with just about ten seconds, now up to a minute. It does many things to elongate the back and everything else. I have an inversion table but rarely use it, when needed if I feel it will do any good. I also strength train five days a week. Just thought I'd throw this out there. Nothing worse then being out of commission.
The bike packing is new for me, will be gearing up this year to get going on this new adventure. Will be dialing in on many channels out there to decipher what will work for me. So much great information out there.
Hope you pulled out from this, being about three weeks later.
I have gotten a lot of advice but I believe the strength training is key. I am better and have been doing more consistent work every evening. Even training myself on the "Asian Squat".
Good luck on your bike-packing adventures! My friends and I only want to travel/vacation by bike now!!
smooth sneak into the gig. be well!
Thanks!😎
About 30 years ago I had a similar back problem with it "going out" from innocent moves like leaning over a table or picking up a camera bag. Tried a procedure, Chinese cupping, where the practitioner literally poked two holes in my lower back area and drew out a lot of gunk using a suction machine. I was skeptical but haven't had a single reoccurrence of the problem since. Obviously, other people's mileage may differ.
Nice. I’ve tried some “alternative” things like dry needles- and some people swear by that - no luck.
Something else worth looking into though.
I’ve dealt with the back pain lately too. It’s definitely harder when you don’t know what brought it on so you don’t know what to avoid next time.
I do feel I tweaked the same thing - I just really don't know how. Now I'm trying to decide how much stretching or exercising I should do. So much different advice out there....
Thanks for making a video for all of us "regular slobs." 😂
I do what I can.😎
Glad it's better than worse. Take care of yourself and get better!
Thanks! It is already feeling a bit better - hopefully it stays on that trajectory.
Take care. If you have access to a sauna, try it. They do wonders for my back and arthritic joints.
I don't but the heating pad is really woking well. Probably very similar as my pain is localized.
Holy cow! This happened to me this weekend too! It was so bad I went to the ER because we thought it might be a kidney stone. It was just a back spasm, but one of the worste pains I've ever had. They gave me muscle relaxers, which worked great. I used a heating pad and Advil. I feel better now, but at the time I thought I was going to be crippled the rest of my life.
Glad you pulled through quickly! Mine is more of a issue of tweaking it - so nerve pain. The Advil barely did anything and I stopped taking it - heating pad is working well though.
Well done getting everything done Tim, it sounds like you managed to minimise the effects somewhat on this occasion. All the best going forward.
Thanks!
We both need to get better by St Pat's day.
Yes! My back isn't too bad today I'm just afraid it will turn into the sciatic nerve pain.
Spring is coming! Yay! Hope your back does better bro.
It is - loving daylight savings time already. Thanks!
I hope you improve quickly.
It’s frustrating, and not fun being down.
Get well soon.
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Thanks!
Hi Tim, I will tell you about my experience with back pains, take it for what it's worth. I had recurring lower back pains and couldn't get rid of them, a mechanic from the local bike shop advised me to use flat bars and to rise the stem by 5 cm. I did that as a last resort and to my great surprise it worked. in fact I'm leaving shortly to a round trip to the North Cape (8,000 km).
ciao from Venice, Italy
Nice!
My bikes are definitely set up more comfortable now and I have my off-road bike with sweeps. I don't feel my problems are stemming from the bike as much as the work I used to do...
Glad to hear the pain was short lived! Here’s hoping it stays away. Never heard of that Cycplus pump, keen to see what you think of it. Appreciate the vid!
It isn't too bad - just worried it will lead to sciatic nerve pain. I did like the original version of the pump but it had limitations - really hoping the new one fixed them. Will doa members give a way for one too.
I'm dealing with sciatica back issues it sucks! I feel ya man,get well soon!All that said if I Get on my bike it goes away.Then when I dismount I can be in mortal pain fall to ground??!! Getting older is a eye opener!take care my man!😉👍
That is what I am afraid of - that it will turn into that. I am exactly the same when it hits - only comfortable when riding.
Bummer I hope you feel
Better
Take care and get well soon.
Thanks
Hope you get well soon. Greetings from germany 😊
Thanks - got out today and feeling a bit better!
Back pain is horrible 😢 feel better cool man .
Thanks!
When my lower back goes it seems that it is not always the thing you are doing when it goes into the bad place. Seems to be built up strain. It is 1-2 weeks recovery for me too. One thing that helps me is trying to actively engage stomach muscles when transitioning from bent to straight body positions. Cycling and kayaking tend to help my back overall, I think. Sitting too much can be bad.
I actually stopped sitting years ago because of my back. I work at a standing desk. I suspect my weakness and tweaking my back is more related to years of farm work I did.
@@TimFitzwater best of luck on getting back to normal, back issues seem like one of those luck (or unluck) things.
Schlub. I use that from time-to-time. I wonder how Akron centric that is. Yahtooble CC says slab.
Hmmm - no idea if that is local. Huh!
Good video as per, sorry to hear about the back trouble. Get it checked by a pro asap. I know it's not free for you guys like we have over here 🇬🇧, but keep an eye on it. Feel strong. ✊
We only go to doctors here when we aren't conscious enough to turn down the ambulance.
Check out the book Spinal Stabilization by Rick Jemmett. This book along with my physical therapist changed my life. Years of marathon running and working in a meat locker took its toll. Enjoy your day my friend.
Thanks for the tips. I think work with a PT would be the best thing for me. I worked on a farm for a decade so.... Cheers!
sounds good
don't remember where or who I heard it from but I repeat it often "get'n old aint for pussies!"... hope you get to feeling better soon brother
Tim, hope you feel better soon. Have you seen a good PT to help with this?
I haven’t but I would like to.
@@TimFitzwater let me know where your location is and I can look to hook you up with one of my therapists. I would do it but I’m in toledo
Hey Tim, you and your crew ever consider riding Ragbria?
Not really. Its quite a hike from here. We also like to plan our own things.
I am fighting it real bad right now.
Dang. I might be with you by the end of the week. I hope not. Will reach out even if I have to ride over to you on Sunday.
I know your most likely in good shape but be mindful when your riding & filming , even though you seem balanced you are riding with one hand and using different muscles compensating for having your arm up in the air holding the camera . It doesn’t take much .
For sure - especially since I am mostly re-injuring the same thing. I try to be very deliberate and cautious until I am warmed up and even then still mindful....which is why this is so frustrating.
If you type - mark wildman lower back pain
I have his book. I have yet to find anything that helps though.
Soon you too will be an old guy on a comfort bike. I happened to me, and it could happen to anyone! E-bikes may be in my distant future, but for me now they are still cheating. How you sit on your bike and how your back is supported can address a specific vertebra in your back to give greater comfort and ease while riding. I expect some recumbent riders to chime in with their back improvement stories. Study, Adjust your bike accordingly and keep on riding.
Studies show most e-bike riders aren't riding e-bikes instead of regular bikes but instead of walking or driving. So they are only cheating on cars which is an awesome thing. ITs time to drop that language. I will ride when when I can't do what I want on my bike anymore.
Don't know how old you are but you get to my age you'll OFTEN notice new pain without knowing why. Flexeral, heat pads and a willingness to play through pain 🙂 That's the life -- Get well.
Thanks man. Yeah - the heating pad is a game changer. This is definitely a weakness that just gets easier to trigger each time...
Cold kidneys Tim…
"you're as old as your back feels" ... or something like that is the saying. Hope you're feeling like you're 25 again soon.
Thanks!
Advil must be some good stuff .
It’s ridiculous- only thing that works. I could take a narcotic and be high but still in pain….
@@TimFitzwater that’s good to know, I’ve seen it on the shelves but never thought of using it.
I buy generic ibuprofen- it works better than most things because it isn’t just a pain killer - it is anti-inflammatory. Don’t take on an empty stomach and drink a lot of water with it.
@@TimFitzwater I don’t generally get many aches and pains (yet 🤞🏼) but I use an ibuprofen gel directly on the sore area, works well. I’m doing this because I’m not really a pill taker if I can possibly help it, the gel seems to work quicker for me. But there are times when a pill is the only way.
Find a PT that does dry needling and let them have at it.
I hate needles but I was in so much pain I tired it a few times. Not a chance I will ever do that again!
@@TimFitzwater lol. If it didn't help I understand.
I did, twice, even though I hate needles....and it didn't do anything for me.
I know you've heard this before, kudos on Chiro, PT work, core works etc. Its just repetitive strain. They all pounce on you as a rescue. I am 61 , and have transcended all that. Slow it down. Yep, the time when my sciatica was spazzing so hard (2005) I couldn't SIT DOWN. Imagine the embarrassment of that. I had a hot chick in the house . Ice therapy, combined with heat later on, is amazing. Can I gently, humbly contribute? ADVIL WILL KILL YOU!!! All the NSAIDS, (especially combined with intermittent, innocent beer intake throughout the day), will destroy/shred your KIDNEYS. All of a sudden. Feel the punch. Been there too. Please research that. For starters, read the fucking label, it's right there on the bottle! Arnica is probably better, so is Turmeric root tincture. Hydrate . No, not tap water. You are probably also stretching your core waay too hard (post new year's freakout) . So buy some hiking boots and grok upon some gentler movement . Oh but the pressure is on to get that shoot done... (vicious cycle syndrome, we call it)
I eat before taking Advil and put it down with tons of water. I limit it as much as possible but when a thousand dollar weekend is on the line its Advil not tumeric.
I appreciate a lot of the advice. I'm working on what I feel I can do to make it better.
@@TimFitzwater It's still a free society. Disclaimer: Only sharing ideas here . I'd tell you more , but the parameters of repetitive strain go far deeper than Advil and water. I have the exact same issue , my net worth is 800K. but that's irrelevant if....
Beware of that Oxy Cotin. You may want to read or see the movie Dopping. There are many alternatives, e.g. physical therapy, chiropractic treatment, accunpunture, etc.
I'm not taking an opiates and I never said I was. Tried some percocet years ago and it didn't do anything for this kind of pain. But also do you think I'm not aware of the dangers of opiates - kinda been in the news for a LONG TIME. A bit insulting really.
Your saddle may be to high
its not
feel better. getting older stinks. I am not a fan.
0 Stars - not recommended.
I’m an older cyclist. From my own experience I’d suggest you begin a workout program… if you want to continue cycling. You no longer have your “youthful” natural core strength. A few minutes a couple times a week at the gym (on the specialized machines) will work miracles (has for me). Best of luck.
The point of this video is that I've been keeping on a routine which is what makes this so frustrating... so I guess I don't get the comment.
So sorry you’re hurting. Should I assume you’ve seen a doctor? Lots of things can go wrong… particularly as we age.
Hey Tim I know all too well about lower back problems. Hopefully this is just a minor flare up and you will bounce back in record time. Sending Mr. Miyagi healing vibes 👐
Thanks! I'm just really hoping it doesn't turn into lasting sciatic nerve pain.
Hate to hear you're hurting Tim. A few tips. Use a foam roller. Roll your glutes. Do stretches. A good one I use is the pigeon stretch. Look on line on how to do it. You need to strengthen your glutes. Squats are good for this. You'll be surprised how much they support your frame. Just a couple ideas . Hope you get to feeling better. Always enjoy your videos.
Thanks -I appreciate the tips. I do have a foam roller(need to use it more) and have been doing squats with my little routine.
Swimming is also great for this purpose, improves flexibility and strength.
Stay hydrated. And drinking beer doesn't do it. Ask me how I know. :)
I know this is old but thought I'd still chime in. My lower back pain was drastically reduced after I improved my core stability. (it helped with everything phyisical not just cycling). suitcase carry with a kettlebell changed my life.
I've been doing lots of core excersizes this year - big part of why I was so frustrated to hurt it again.
Oh, man I feel for you - I've had exactly the same thing happen about 5-6 months ago. I found some relief from doing those prone lumbar extension exercises where you lay on your front and push up onto your elbows like a cobra. Ultimately though, I've said goodbye to drop bars and swapped stems to reduce reach and raise my bars a little which has helped a lot. I don't feel as cool but my back is happier. The irony of my situation was that I rode to a cycle training session with children which I was helping with - and when I got there, realized I couldn't get off my bike!
Oh man! That stinks!
I don't find much difference wether I ride upright or drops. When I pinch it I pinch it and it just sucks. I don't even really think it is all that cycling related when it happens like this.
I've had back strain. Not recently. Good luck with it. The guys in this link have a lot of good physical therapy stuff.
www.youtube.com/@BobandBrad
A guy like you inspires people to get on their bikes. This is a good thing. Get well.
Thanks so much!
Hi Tim, I had a back injury as a carpenter that led to surgery but I got lots of warnings, I've found the best thing is not all the stretchy yoga type stuff but a half hour circuit training with squats etc. You do alot of miles and your back absorbs thousands of bumps, what about the eesilk elastomer seatpost to give it a helping hand?
Every injury is different - people suggest both things. My goal is to strength train and keep it loose so it doesn't happen in the first place. I ride low pressure supple tire. I don't like suspension seat posts. I feel like my injuries are from years of being a farm hand more than the bike though.
Hopefully, the exercises you had been doing prevented your back from getting too bad
I fell like maybe they have - just worried it will turn into lasting sciatic nerve pain. Just rode and felt ok.
You should see an neurosurgeon or an orthopedic spine surgeon about you back. That's the first step, I am sure the second will be an MRI, then they will know what your issue is and how to treat it. Back issue never get better, they just get prolonged.
Don't really agree with that. There are many people who have found changing habits and exercises to work. I've rarely seen surgery do anything more then temporarily fix someone - I won't be going that route.
I'm glad your doing better. I'm just one bad fart closer to being paralyzed. Stay safe and God bless
Lol - thanks!
Last year, about the start of June, I went on a 30mi ride. Thought I tweaked my back bad hurt for 5weeks. Turns out it was lymes disease.
Oh jeez! My Dad had it last summer.
Hope you're doing better.
I am - thanks!
I hope you figure out how to avoid pain in the future. I’m sure it is frustrating. Take care. 🚴
I try to be so careful and deliberate - sometimes it just gets me! Thanks!
Is it really all the big shots in Akron if Lebron isn’t there?
LeBron lives in LA.☹️
Have you tried the upright handlebars? Just a thought to keep you riding. I mostly ride upright handlebars are still am pretty able to get into everything they throw at me with them.
Yeah - I love my Gunnar with sweep bars and I have a single speed commuter that is very upright - this isn't a bike fit issue though.
@@TimFitzwater hope you get better soon take care 🫡✌️
Get well soon buddy
Thanks! I did go do a short ride today.
70-y.o., limited-mobility handicapper here with no balance. Love bicycles. (Only ever a hobbyist)!
My "Hase Lepus" has 25-inch-high seat option.
Slidable On/Off from wheelchair with forearm crutches.., IS everything to me now.
No automotive driving for 5 years now.
Rohloff gearbox and E-assist!
Never outgrow a delta planform recumbent trike.
Grow oldest on a delta planform recumbent trike.
Recumbent or e-bike is probably in my future. Hopefully I can do the right things to hold out on my bikes a little longer though!
Cheers mate!
Recumbent seat of full support eliminates my back pain while riding.@@TimFitzwater
Thank you, Tim. Own tadpole trikes here too. Delta trikes are hugely more reality than mere sportscar tadpoles!@@TimFitzwater
Have a Speedy Recovery Tim ! I'd rather have a tooth ache than a backache .....well maybe !
Good luck
Thanks!
I’ll be 69 next month and the hardest thing I’ve been working on is listening to my body.
Take it easy if when schedule permits. Best of health to you.
OMG! I used to get my haircut at Springer's Barbershop across exchange street there back in the early 2000's!
Bummer my man, get well soon
Thanks!
Thanks Tim..and sorry . Pain sucks .
Hoping it isn't too long lasting....
Yeah , understandably ..I am older it's a constant companion lately @@TimFitzwater
Best wishes! After your back heals a bit, check out these two books: Athletic Body in Balance by Gray Cook (about restoring lost strength or flexibility, with a testing methodology) and Convict Conditioning by Paul Wade (an easy to follow set of body weight exercise progressions). Also a good yoga class is what helped me in a similar situation as yours, led by a physical-therapy-minded instructor.
Thanks for the tips!
I am currently going through PT from a chronic lower back issue ive dealt with for the last 10 years. This PT properly diagnosed me with a misaligned SI Joint that can cause a lot of pain in the lower back and even push on the sciatic nerve causing major pain. I recommend PT instead of chiropractic work. Much better in fixing the pain instead of managing it with monthly realignments
I have thought about that. I did some work for a PT and thought about reaching out to trade.
My wife has her doctorate in PT, runs a specialized private practice, and gets a lot of clients from chiropractors. She says they're a great referral source for where to find injured people who aren't recovering. Typically people think that strength exercises are needed when there is an issue like a "thrown out xyz", but it's often due to over work and muscle spasm from already being at a 10/10 and being asked for more. More often than not people need to stretch and relax a part of their body rather than strengthen it. The weakness is likely in a smaller supporting muscle group that require a more minute and pinpointed exercise as opposed to a sit up. She's a huge fan of planks...with the more important stretches. Hope you feel better, heat/ice is good.
Thanks for the advice! I appreciate it! I am definitely interested in some PT help.
Gym: Deadlifts, Squats, Bench Press. Core: Pilates. 71 year old cyclist.
Not for me - glad it works for you though! My gym is the outdoors. 😎
Sorry to hear about your back. I hope you feel better soon. Heat/Ice.
On the heating pad now - thanks!
Excessive sitting and low vitamin D are worth mentioning.
I work at a standing desk and would doubt I excessively lack vitamin D as someone who spends so much time outside. I think what most people are missing is that I have basically pinched or slipped something.
Hey Tim, I’m sorry to learn you’re dealing with back pain. I’ve had pretty serious lower back pain at two separate times in the last few years, but I learned a few mobility tricks that really made all the difference.
First, I learned how to get into a full Asian squat, which is just bending your knees and hips and squatting down and hugging your knees, but being able to do this does a surprising amount to relieve back tension. It can be hard the first few times if you’re not used to it, if you’re still in pain it’s sometimes more accessible by laying on your back and hug your knees. I still get flair ups from time to time, but I can pop into one of these squats for a few minutes and it eases it off.
Learning to brace your core differently can also ease back pain; I practice by doing “dead bugs” and various single side carries to gently engage stability muscles.
Hope these tips bring some comfort & resilience!
Thanks! I have been looking to add a few moves to the things I'm doing so it is very helpful!
@@TimFitzwater also: if your back pain is anything like what I used to encounter, it doesn’t necessarily have to be that you “did” anything to make it flair up. If I sat still for any prolonged period, it could show up, first as a slight cramp, and then gripping pain. Working on hip mobility and core strength made all the difference.
A couple of resources to look at more content about stretching and training:
Squat University- big advocate
MovementByDavid
@@TimFitzwater also: if your back pain is anything like what I used to encounter, it doesn’t necessarily have to be that you “did” anything to make it flair up. If I sat still for any prolonged period, it could show up, first as a slight cramp, and then gripping pain. Working on hip mobility and core strength made all the difference.
A couple of resources to look at more content about stretching and training:
Squat University- big advocate
MovementByDavid
Grab one of those massage guns, game changer
I do like those - but this isn't that kind of injury - its more like a slipped disc or something. Cannot put that massage-like pressure on it.
stiffer matress helped me, get well soon tim
Thanks. I had stopped sleeping on my stomach a couple years ago.
@@TimFitzwater thats good.