thanks for putting this up here. Season still not started here in the north of Norway yet, so i have some time before season start to learn and adapt this new grip into my game
I can see how it works, but really it's just an extreme version of a strong grip. Shawn Clements teaches the strong grip and explains the dynamics. Either way, the left side of your left hand is going towards the target. The main feature it seems the left elbow pointing to the target and is pre-set, much like a very strong grip. I think a strong grip with 3.5 -4 knuckles would be more comfortable for most and would try that before going this extreme. Teaching a newbie the basics will of course make him hit much better regardless of what technique you are teaching.
I am being honest when that when I tried this grip and swing that my arms lock up in the backswing before I can get the club even a shot distance back in the backswing. I guess watching the video doesn't explain things well enough as I cannot take a full or half backswing and I am totally out of sync trying to swing the club forward. If you come to Atlanta, Georgia, and you want to meet me in person to see if you can help me figure out how to take a swing with this grip I would appreciate it.
@@scottysgolfgrip Do you have anyone in the Atlanta, Georgia, area who knows how this grip is supposed to work that they can come with me to the driving range and help me understand and actually use this grip? I am honest in that when I try to make a backswing immediately my left shoulder feels like it will dislocate and I am unable to rotate my arms and body into a proper backswing. All I get is pain in my shoulder and my wrist and body lock up. If you have someone in my area of Atlanta than can help please give me their contact information.
Gees what a great video Scotty. I'm going to use this and give it a try. I am in Australia sonif it works for me I will probably be the trend setter.Thanks heaps Brendon
I would give it a try but I'm not going to take all my new oversized grips off my clubs. I probably will try this with my current grips...they are dri tac grips though
What roll does the left wrist and grip play in this set up? The swing is predominantly controlled with the right hand with this grip. So why wouldn't a standard baseball grip be just as effective with out the left wrist strain.
When gripping with my technique the left hand is prominent and creates much more force and clubhead speed with faster hands. Can’t even compare to a baseball grip.
Scotty, I've watch, as you have suggested. I see, again, your training, which could nicely be applied to any golf swing, and I also see another young man who is very flexible in his wrist--counter to the normal wrist hinge. Not sure if this is a "blind test" for your golf grip. I think you'll find that some can handle, no pun intended, that sort of counter-wrist bend whilst others cannot. If you had 5-10 golfers off the street and gave this lesson, and I was one of them, whatever you said, or did, wouldn't work for me. My wrist, arm, and elbow just don't work that way. Again, trying my own swing, after trying yours, makes me happy mine is so consistent and naturally easy. I do think "most" will have success brushing the grass as in chipping, but again, it isn't as natural as traditional efforts and doesn't, at least for me, have "feel" required for those shots. I appreciate your effort, patience, and excitement teaching this approach, but it's not for me--at this point. Again, I keep watching for that "thing" that makes this universally possible. Haven't seen it yet. I know it's not the effort of people trying this method--looks like "most" will contort themselves to give anything new a chance in search of that better swing--and really work at it as well. Flexibility is a gift for some, unless you can change the design of the handle end of the club, where everyone could grasp it in your fashion. Now, there's a money-making idea! ;>)
If you view the lightning in a bottle video where I talk about the NBC dateline show, you’ll find that Jack Pulford pulls it back about halfway or less and has great success similar to John Rahm. I’ve only been back into Golf for three weeks now and need a little more time to solve everyone’s issues. And for sure it won’t work for some but it all starts in the mind that’s for sure.
@@scottysgolfgrip Watched that old dateline show--a new test using random golfers would be something for you and us--who would love to see this work--but just need that something... that shows the secret part we're missing. I can't get beyond that opposite hinge without pain. There is something to having that flexibility. Thanks for your reply. Best
Hi Ken Have you watched his son Jamie hit balls. He's also got a UA-cam channel and I've sort of copied what he does. He uses the Scotty grip but his left arm is straight. I can swing like that too and in one of his vids, he explains on the range today random guy how to do it. I'm 66 and 14 hcp and now smash irons straight downbthe middle. Still can't control woods but will get there. I've only been doing it 4 weeks. Live in Australia. Cheers and good luck. Brendon
@@brendonoehme8707 Yes, I've watched them "all" but that "opposite" grip doesn't match my anatomy. Brings to mind the expression "built differently" with those who can perform this swing and grip change. Cheers!
This is an extremely impressive outcome and things that I have been understanding about the golf swing recently AND over many, many years of studying it. will very fully explain this result. Basically in the normal approach to the golf swing spine angle and the face squareness relative to the spine angle are critical factors that tend to baffle and impede the average golfer from improving. Golfers tend to stand up early and lose all relationship of the club face with the (essentially) hoisting (like thowing a weight) motion of the golf swing.. The hoist is natural to even remotely skilled athletes or to anyone that has done any kind of heavy-ish work with a tool. The importance of spine angle, wrist mechanics, and squareness to a precise degree are NOT. Things like flipping, and lead wrist breakdown are anathema to a more orthodox golf swing and ESPECIALLY when you combine the need to mainain or increase spine angle while doing that. This method removes all of those concerns because of the grip's automatic tendency to square the club and release the toe in proper synchronization with the motion of the clubshaft through impact. So the golfer can stand up in the backswing (which Scotty does more than the subject in the lesson ) while opening the face a lot relative to the spine angle, start hoisting while standing up in the early downswing and then flipping hard through impact and the results, rathen than being the distaster that they would with a more orthodox grip, are extraordary since they are allowing the golfer to do what they would tend to do naturally if they were given free reign to swing hard and produce leverage with a long implement. Face squaring, release dynamics, and spine angle constraints have been largely removed from the equation by the grip. If you look at the swings carefully through impact, you can see the lead elbow "flip" with the lead wrist going rapidly into extension, with the lead elbow moving rapidly back inside after impact. However, this is perfect for a swing where the face comes down open and one is standing up coming into the ball (also a face opening mechanic in the golf swing) and produces a predicable squaring and toe release though impact with consequent power and strong impact. The arms and hands tend to look like a "dog's breakfast" through impact ( a little less, if one stands up in the backswing and levels the shoulders as Scotty does) but it's hard to argue with the results. Moreover, moving the trail elbow in close to the body in the backswing and the lead elbow the same way through and past impact is creating a very predictable shaft dynamic through the hitting area whereas golfers normally get into a lot of trouble with too much amplitude of arm motion on one side of the swing or the other and these need to match up. Also, playing the ball back in combination with the former, constrains the swing even more to a release of the toe through impact with the trail arm and hand with simultaneous lead wrist extansion. This is a very safe and effective way to get speed IF the squaring and face levelling requirements are being met through impact, which they (clearly ) are with this method. The constrained parameters of elbow movement on both sides of impact combined with the grip itself, and ball further back in the stance also synergistically promote inside to out path with rapid toe release thereby naturally favoring a draw. This grip's effect can essentially can be summed up as starting from extremely open clubface, and because of the nature of the biomechanics of the human (lead) arm, a conversely GUARANTEED rapidly closing clubface through impact with the range of other biomechanical parameters being automatically constrained through impact. Thus you effectively have the functional equivalent of a second steering wheel and a "chicken brake" when instructing a new driver. Most of the least desirable outcomes have been largely taken out of the equation. Cheers.
Sure, imagine I large object in front of you, then pull through with your left side with your back of your hand like the traditional golf swing. It’s extremely hard to leverage the large object from that position. Now turn your hand over like my grip, and move that same object. Simply said there is more force and thrust with my grip.
How about someone that is stiff all over their body. I’m 54 and I call myself a walking two by four. Have arthritis in both hips and a fused spine. Bad back. Pain all day every day. So how could I learn this swing.
You can't deny that this technique produces positive results. Everyone's golf swing is like our DNA: everyone's is uniquely different.
thanks for putting this up here. Season still not started here in the north of Norway yet, so i have some time before season start to learn and adapt this new grip into my game
Amazing improvement.
You can tell he’s a real beginner and his shots at the end were fantastic. The grip still boggles my mind though.
I can see how it works, but really it's just an extreme version of a strong grip. Shawn Clements teaches the strong grip and explains the dynamics. Either way, the left side of your left hand is going towards the target. The main feature it seems the left elbow pointing to the target and is pre-set, much like a very strong grip. I think a strong grip with 3.5 -4 knuckles would be more comfortable for most and would try that before going this extreme. Teaching a newbie the basics will of course make him hit much better regardless of what technique you are teaching.
It kills my left wrist what I doing wrong
I am being honest when that when I tried this grip and swing that my arms lock up in the backswing before I can get the club even a shot distance back in the backswing. I guess watching the video doesn't explain things well enough as I cannot take a full or half backswing and I am totally out of sync trying to swing the club forward. If you come to Atlanta, Georgia, and you want to meet me in person to see if you can help me figure out how to take a swing with this grip I would appreciate it.
I offer zoom lessons if you’re interested. And if you watch more videos, you’ll see many successful and great golf shots.
@@scottysgolfgrip Do you have anyone in the Atlanta, Georgia, area who knows how this grip is supposed to work that they can come with me to the driving range and help me understand and actually use this grip? I am honest in that when I try to make a backswing immediately my left shoulder feels like it will dislocate and I am unable to rotate my arms and body into a proper backswing. All I get is pain in my shoulder and my wrist and body lock up. If you have someone in my area of Atlanta than can help please give me their contact information.
It felt like my elbow was gonna tear itself apart
Gees what a great video Scotty. I'm going to use this and give it a try. I am in Australia sonif it works for me I will probably be the trend setter.Thanks heaps Brendon
I'll make sure I share this video with my golf buddies and make sure they use your grip! I need cash... 😂
If you’re ever in the Phoenix area, please look me up. I could use a little cash myself.
Boom! Roasted!
@@jeremyharris5176I don't think so.
@@jeremyharris5176 I don't think so. No pro golfer uses this grip. Get serious FS.
I would give it a try but I'm not going to take all my new oversized grips off my clubs. I probably will try this with my current grips...they are dri tac grips though
What roll does the left wrist and grip play in this set up? The swing is predominantly controlled with the right hand with this grip. So why wouldn't a standard baseball grip be just as effective with out the left wrist strain.
When gripping with my technique the left hand is prominent and creates much more force and clubhead speed with faster hands. Can’t even compare to a baseball grip.
@@scottysgolfgrip I'm not seein' it..........yet.
I want to see a 300 yard drive with this, yardages with every club would be nice.
Just go to my Channel, Scottys Golf Grip and check out the video titled ‘Upside Down Golf Grip Gets a 300 Yard Carry’.
It took me 6 months at the range going 3 times a week hitting 2 or 3 buckets of balls to get where this guy is in 4 hours...incredible
You either got it or you don't!
@@cjschmitt4882 Couldn't have said it better.
Scotty, I've watch, as you have suggested. I see, again, your training, which could nicely be applied to any golf swing, and I also see another young man who is very flexible in his wrist--counter to the normal wrist hinge. Not sure if this is a "blind test" for your golf grip. I think you'll find that some can handle, no pun intended, that sort of counter-wrist bend whilst others cannot. If you had 5-10 golfers off the street and gave this lesson, and I was one of them, whatever you said, or did, wouldn't work for me. My wrist, arm, and elbow just don't work that way. Again, trying my own swing, after trying yours, makes me happy mine is so consistent and naturally easy. I do think "most" will have success brushing the grass as in chipping, but again, it isn't as natural as traditional efforts and doesn't, at least for me, have "feel" required for those shots. I appreciate your effort, patience, and excitement teaching this approach, but it's not for me--at this point. Again, I keep watching for that "thing" that makes this universally possible. Haven't seen it yet. I know it's not the effort of people trying this method--looks like "most" will contort themselves to give anything new a chance in search of that better swing--and really work at it as well. Flexibility is a gift for some, unless you can change the design of the handle end of the club, where everyone could grasp it in your fashion. Now, there's a money-making idea! ;>)
If you view the lightning in a bottle video where I talk about the NBC dateline show, you’ll find that Jack Pulford pulls it back about halfway or less and has great success similar to John Rahm. I’ve only been back into Golf for three weeks now and need a little more time to solve everyone’s issues. And for sure it won’t work for some but it all starts in the mind that’s for sure.
@@scottysgolfgrip Watched that old dateline show--a new test using random golfers would be something for you and us--who would love to see this work--but just need that something... that shows the secret part we're missing. I can't get beyond that opposite hinge without pain. There is something to having that flexibility. Thanks for your reply. Best
Hi Ken Have you watched his son Jamie hit balls. He's also got a UA-cam channel and I've sort of copied what he does. He uses the Scotty grip but his left arm is straight. I can swing like that too and in one of his vids, he explains on the range today random guy how to do it. I'm 66 and 14 hcp and now smash irons straight downbthe middle. Still can't control woods but will get there. I've only been doing it 4 weeks. Live in Australia. Cheers and good luck. Brendon
@@brendonoehme8707 Yes, I've watched them "all" but that "opposite" grip doesn't match my anatomy. Brings to mind the expression "built differently" with those who can perform this swing and grip change. Cheers!
Very impressive improvement. Can you answer a question of why ? Why does the grip change result in such improvement?
Please watch the golf scientist video, should answer some of your questions.
If it’s so great why don’t I see it used on the professional tours and the long drive championships?
This is an extremely impressive outcome and things that I have been understanding about the golf swing recently AND over many, many years of studying it. will very fully explain this result. Basically in the normal approach to the golf swing spine angle and the face squareness relative to the spine angle are critical factors that tend to baffle and impede the average golfer from improving. Golfers tend to stand up early and lose all relationship of the club face with the (essentially) hoisting (like thowing a weight) motion of the golf swing.. The hoist is natural to even remotely skilled athletes or to anyone that has done any kind of heavy-ish work with a tool. The importance of spine angle, wrist mechanics, and squareness to a precise degree are NOT. Things like flipping, and lead wrist breakdown are anathema to a more orthodox golf swing and ESPECIALLY when you combine the need to mainain or increase spine angle while doing that.
This method removes all of those concerns because of the grip's automatic tendency to square the club and release the toe in proper synchronization with the motion of the clubshaft through impact. So the golfer can stand up in the backswing (which Scotty does more than the subject in the lesson ) while opening the face a lot relative to the spine angle, start hoisting while standing up in the early downswing and then flipping hard through impact and the results, rathen than being the distaster that they would with a more orthodox grip, are extraordary since they are allowing the golfer to do what they would tend to do naturally if they were given free reign to swing hard and produce leverage with a long implement. Face squaring, release dynamics, and spine angle constraints have been largely removed from the equation by the grip. If you look at the swings carefully through impact, you can see the lead elbow "flip" with the lead wrist going rapidly into extension, with the lead elbow moving rapidly back inside after impact. However, this is perfect for a swing where the face comes down open and one is standing up coming into the ball (also a face opening mechanic in the golf swing) and produces a predicable squaring and toe release though impact with consequent power and strong impact. The arms and hands tend to look like a "dog's breakfast" through impact ( a little less, if one stands up in the backswing and levels the shoulders as Scotty does) but it's hard to argue with the results.
Moreover, moving the trail elbow in close to the body in the backswing and the lead elbow the same way through and past impact is creating a very predictable shaft dynamic through the hitting area whereas golfers normally get into a lot of trouble with too much amplitude of arm motion on one side of the swing or the other and these need to match up. Also, playing the ball back in combination with the former, constrains the swing even more to a release of the toe through impact with the trail arm and hand with simultaneous lead wrist extansion. This is a very safe and effective way to get speed IF the squaring and face levelling requirements are being met through impact, which they (clearly ) are with this method. The constrained parameters of elbow movement on both sides of impact combined with the grip itself, and ball further back in the stance also synergistically promote inside to out path with rapid toe release thereby naturally favoring a draw. This grip's effect can essentially can be summed up as starting from extremely open clubface, and because of the nature of the biomechanics of the human (lead) arm, a conversely GUARANTEED rapidly closing clubface through impact with the range of other biomechanical parameters being automatically constrained through impact. Thus you effectively have the functional equivalent of a second steering wheel and a "chicken brake" when instructing a new driver. Most of the least desirable outcomes have been largely taken out of the equation. Cheers.
@@timothypollock8358 All I can say is WOW Thanks
Sure, imagine I large object in front of you, then pull through with your left side with your back of your hand like the traditional golf swing. It’s extremely hard to leverage the large object from that position. Now turn your hand over like my grip, and move that same object. Simply said there is more force and thrust with my grip.
Do you chip with this grip as well?
Absolutely
Did you build an indoor golf studio without a simulator?
Of all the beginners, you pick the least excited guy...lol I'll be trying this out next weekend!
How about someone that is stiff all over their body. I’m 54 and I call myself a walking two by four. Have arthritis in both hips and a fused spine. Bad back. Pain all day every day. So how could I learn this swing.
I will try this method.
Try to watch as much of the instruction as you can off of the 3 or 4 instructional videos on the channel. Don't sell yourself short. Good Luck!