I really hope you all enjoy this video. Unfortunately tho, this is gonna be my last upload until at least June, May is gonna be a very eventful and busy month for me and I’m not gonna be able to have time to work on any videos. I do have some ideas for when I do return tho which I think y’all will like. That’s all for now-Sam🤙
1. What if Awdry wrote Sodor’s Legend of the Lost Treasure? 2. What if Salty, Emily, Spencer, Murdoch, Arthur, Fergus, Molly, Stanley and Lady appeared in the Railway Series? 3. What if Oliver did manage to escape to Sodor without Douglas?
“are you a fat controllers’s engine…” “yes and proud of it..” “well I’m Oliver Isabell is the one behind me and the van is toad” “you’re being scraped aren’t you…” “yes…” Donald remembered what happened to his brother all those years ago “Driver couple me up to him“ “What are you doing…” “saving you.”
There needs to be someone to pull the Midnight Goods so yeah, he would've been saved regardless Still it would be interesting if Both never came to Sodor and someone like James saved him instead
In terms of Railway Preservation I'd argue nothing would change, Thomas would still be popular. However we may have gotten better stories or more Railways/Lines expanded on Sodor.
Think about this as well. If Douglas never came to Sodor, Oliver either wouldn’t have escape entirely, or he would’ve been scrapped at Barrow assuming Donald didn’t find him instead
Or maybe Donald would refuse to leave Scotland without Douglas, and The Fat Controller would either have to buy both of them, or a completely different engine.
@@ConeHeadMan1 Percy definitely would be willing to save anyone since he and Thomas saved Old Slow Coach from scrap and he also saved James from the landslide in TOTB but James would be more concerned about saving himself over other engines from scrap any day unless he’d think he’d get praise and some reward for it by Sir Topham Hatt
@@jaanshersaeed4541 well, being brave isn't the only thing, theres -a close call with scrap, douglas was almost scrapped, this crosses of Thomas Possibly gordon James Percy Duck Donald -visibility, a bright color would give them away, or large shape in general, this crosses off Henry Gordon Edwards the only one left, and we can cross him off because he works from wellsworth to brendam, almost all the way across the island,
I got three what if featuring Thomas. 1. What if Buffers stopped Thomas from crashing into the stationmaster's house? 2. What if Thomas never arrived at Sodor? 3. What if Thomas never went to the national railway show? (I just realized I've got all of the three eras of Sir Topham Hatt lol)
1) Thomas wouldn't get his new shape but nothing would really change except Daisy not being on Sodor. 2) Scrap, his class was terrible. 3) Nothing would really change, he'd just never meet Green Arrow and the other engines there.
1.Thomas would have remained in his old shape(as in the television series). 2. Edward... Edward... Would be the protagonist of tv series. And the show would be called Edward the litlle Blue tender engine and friends. 3Almost nothing would change.
With the BR Standard one, I think one possiblity would be Thomas's branchline could become a small heritage railway after getting closed in the Beeching Acts. Have some of the NWR engines preserved, mostly the original 8, but some would likely still meet the torch once the diesels came.
Ffarquhare because it's Thomas's Branchline and it is preatty får away from the built up partis of sodor. Brendam & Peel Goodred would servive because of there industries. The Brendam Branch hase The Clay Pits & Brendam docks and Peel Goodred hase the Electric Power Plant & Aluminium works.
I think a cool What if is what if the Arlesdale Railway wasn't built and the Mid Sodor was revived instead? According to the History of Sodors lecture the initial plan was to borrow a Skarloey Railway engine and have them run on the old rails of the Mid Sodor, but there were none to spare. So if they were able to do just that, we could've seen Peter Sam and Sir Handel retreading their old grounds, which would've been sweet. And Duke likely would've been found a little sooner.
Basically my plot line for my RWS is Douglas doesn’t escape gets sent to a scrapyard that’s on sodor and Edward on one of his scrap runs finds him in the back behind a lot of other stuff either trucks or just simply locomotive parts mentions it to Donald and Donald convinces fat hat to buy him that’s how I’ve wrote it
This is a great topic, Mattel should cancel All Engines Go entirely and replace it with a new series called "Sodor's What If?". That idea would be a million times better IMO.
Well, what if he STAYED in the tunnel? I mean, it’s a common misconception among people who don’t watch Thomas, so, the possibility of it being true would be something to imagine.
Here’s an interesting one: what if Bertram never met William Stanier? Henry might’ve been scrapped due to no financial backing from William & the 1925 agreement with the LMS might not’ve happened, because again, Stanier & Hatt were close friends. The latter might’ve still happened, but it still leaves you to wonder
I loved this, one idea I had was what if Thomas was a J70 (AKA what was originally intended) i think that could have some very fun implications on the stories.
Unfortunately that idea is popular in the Fandom. Most likely, Thomas wouldn't change that much, just a different design and lb&scr e2s would be near forgotten.
There's actually a fanfic with Premise no. 1 which ends with Donald discovering Douglas and Oliver on the run at Barrow several years later. (Although the idea of Douglas being preserved is also a good one. Maybe he ends up at Brechin rather than Aviemore, and maybe spends an extended period at Ropley?)
What if STH knew Donald had a twin he was close to when he was buying him (ie, their old manager was trying to sell them together), but denied him knowing he would be scrapped? And then pretended at ignorance upon meeting them to save face. I have a Donald without Douglas headcanon about this where Donald suspects it and resents/silently hates him for it. Okay, okay, this is more my headcanon than a what if, but hey.
An interesting idea. I like it. In fact, I think I might have a few suggestions. What if Diesel never came to Sodor? Perhaps a more friendly diesel could have been purchased by the Fat Controller for a trial. Like Paxton, or Sidney. What if we actually got Barry the Rescue Engine? Endless possibilities there. What if Emily was a Sodor & Mainland Engine? This is an idea I've heard multiple times over the years. Oh, here's a thought. What if the NWR was run by someone else? What if the Fat Controller and his forefathers never stuck around after Sir Topham Hatt I? That's a bit of food for thought.
2:06 That'd actually be an interesting way to rewrite Escape/Little Western, and to wrap up this supposed character arc. After saving Oliver, Donald can feel he avenged Douglas in a way by rescuing another.
Wouldn't have happened. Douglas took the Scrap train because Donald takes Heavy Goods as he was bought to do not to mention D199's train earlier that day. Oliver would have been caught in that timeline unfortunately.
@@everythingproductions2004 But by that time Diesels were the option so a Diesel would have taken it and Oliver wouldn't have risked calling out. He just wouldn't have known.
The legacy would end there and would most likely lead into Beeching taking over and enforcing BR standards meaning a lot of engines would be scrapped and a lot of lines would be closed.
@@Airenapsk I think then instead of percy in knapford would immediately come Duck. And instead of Percy, someone would come to help build the harbor. And instead of Percy, someone else would come to Thomas' branch. And there would be no tale of the brave.
@@redboxgamingyt3452 Well, I think then the great Western branch would either not have existed or it would have been serviced by someone else. And there wouldn't be characters like Phillip, Dennis, and Billy.
Plus i think fore my ideas a sodor would be preaty diffrent. If James was always black not red then i think he would not be as vain and full of himself, instead he would be more down to earth and focused on hard instead of his paint.
And for my second theory if Paxton came to Sodor instaed of Diesel nit only would the events of 'Duck & the Dieasel Engines' be very diffrent but i also think that with Paxton's easy to like persinality the steam engines would be mutch more exepting of dieasel engines.
For the part about sodor actually being forced from BR to be standardize, this would mean a lot of engines being reallocated like Thomas would probably go to Southampton docks with the rest of his siblings. But this would also mean other things like more characters appearing like standard designs such as Arthur and Murdoch having an excuse of appearing in the rws and characters leaving with old engines like Toby and Edward being withdrawn since both furness k2 and j70 trams should have been withdrawn years ago before BR even took over
The J70 tram engines lasted into the 1950s so did work under British Railways. Maybe Mavis could be the first diesel on the NWR as her basis replaced Toby's in the 1950s.
The scrapping was caused by Phillp Shirley and Ernest Marples, not Beeching, Beeching attended the opening of the Bluebell and South Devon railways, he gave railway preservation his blessing, he also ensured Fenchurch was kept in storage after withdrawal until the Bluebell could afford it (Beeching lived in East Grinstead)
Hey I just watched the whole video and this is a great idea if you make this a series this would be so fun to watch I also like your editing style for this video it feels very relaxing and that’s awesome. Great job and I am excited for when you decide to upload again
@@ciarangleeson2880 Yes, that is correct. The 'mean' blue engines. And the other red engine I mean the bigger one of James and seems to be an A2 Pacific. As I know that the James looking one has the fan term of Eagle, and why it is named after a bird and not a human name, I have no clue.
I like some of these what if, I thought the skarloey railway and Thomas not getting his branchline was pretty interesting as well as Donald and Douglas not being together Here’s my what on about Toby he’d be turned into a brakevan
If i had reality warping powers; I'd make What If? scenarios like this a reality via videos on UA-cam. Same with a bunch of other speculative, along with lost, media. I'm the curious type so i'd love to see these ideas realised.
I like to think that if the northwestern was forced to follow BR principles, The fat controller would still try and find a way to preserve his engines in someway shape or form. For one depending on when the Story Takes Pl., Stepney has already stated (likely with the approval of his manager since he was on the railway to at that time) but they’re all welcome on the Bluebell Railway. Now obviously they can’t take everyone but I imagine that would save a fair amount of the engines. On top of that due to the Engines relative popularity in the railway series I’m sure multiple railway museums would be lining up to purchase a member of the fat controller’s eight famous engines. And I know this happens far later in the books but Thomas did become an honorary member of the great railway museum so I see no reason he couldn’t join that. Maybe Gordon would be sold to the Flying Scotsman’s Owner?
It does make me wonder though why didn't the NWR have to follow the BR standard, was the railway series that popular that if BR changed anything I'd be controversial, or was the NWR inconsequential to BR's grand plan
Railway Series would be different in a lot of ways. Possibility the biggest difference would be that the Railway Series would most likely be focused on Larger/Tender Engines and the Small Engines would pretty much be nothing more than just background characters.
I think if Edward had been preserved, his replacement could have been another Metropolitan Vickers Type 2 diesel. Probably around 1968. Maybe a couple more to work goods trains & banking at Gordon's Hill as well.
Here's an idea: What if Thomas was instead an LNER J50 as Awdry actually wanted him to be, either as first illustrated or rebuilt into the useful engine we know and love him as of today?
@@theflyingkipper42 Then duck would be the engine on trial instead of diesel and (assuming ducks character traits don't change) he would be bought. Also what diesel class. I'm assuming an 08
I've noticed on the original Awdry map and various edits of said map by fans that there is an abandoned railway at the northern most end of Sodor that once ran from Harwick, past some smaller towns and eventually to a mine. My question is why the NWR hasn't expanded out that way and use most of the old ROW and what's the story with that abandoned line?
My RWS Harwick Branch. Arlesburgh West x Harbour, bridge over river Arle, past Castle Arle, Engine sheds & goods yard. Past a lighthouse, thrue a rocky terrain into Clagh Oorye station. Past the north coast of sodor $ Lifeboat station into Harwick station. Plus a extention and loop at Ballaswein.
I imagine that, if the NWR engines did at least have to wear BR liveries and numbers, the bigger engines would not take it so well. ______ *GORDON (in BR passenger blue, **#54004**):* I look ridiculous! This is not the proper shade of blue to befit a grand express engine! Disgraceful! ______ *HENRY (in BR lined black, **#54003**):* Lucky Gordon gets to keep his blue paint. I look like I've been dipped in ink with this ugly black colour. How unimaginative, despicable and lazy! You cannot apply a few brushstrokes and call it paintwork. ______ *JAMES (in BR lined black, **#54005**):* Taking away my splendid red paint is one thing, but having the gall to colour me black is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING! I look like I've been splashed by a hundred tar wagons! I would rather be painted blue!
During the early days of BR a number of experimental colour schemes were tried, especially for express passenger locos. These included: a light green - similar to Henry but slightly lighter, a light blue - near to Sodor blue, a dark blue - near to the shade used by the Caledonian. In the end express passenger locos became brunswick (GWR) green, mixed traffic locos black with red & white lining and minor locos plain black. But in many cases rules were loosely applied and, particularly on the GWR, some passenger tank engines were in fully lined green. BR Blue (a horrible shade that faded too easily) didn't come in until well into the diesel era - late 1960s.
What if Godred never fell off the mountain The mid sodor never closed Thomas was a j50 Peter Sam and Sir Handel were scrapped Duke was never found Edward died in Edward's exploit Both D199 and Bear were sent away
I have a what if. The engien were biuld by the Railway him self. Whould all arrivel in the 1940s and preserve the S&MR. The W&SR And the TKER. To be more clear, the Tidmouth Knaford Elsbrigh railway
Na verdade se henry fosse um atlântico, os acontecimentos que ele teve na RWs vai acontecer tipo: a história triste de Henry, o voador keeper, ou seja gordon ia ficar no lugar do Henry caso que esses acontecimentos aconteça, o motivo de the sad history of Henry acontecer é por causa quero Henry odiava a chuva, então os acontecimentos ia acontecer, tipo o Gordon ia ter que ser comprado para ficar no lugar do Henry quando o Henry ficou no túnel, ou talvez , o expresso seja muito para o Henry, então sir topam hat comprou Gordon para ajudar Henry
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I really hope you all enjoy this video. Unfortunately tho, this is gonna be my last upload until at least June, May is gonna be a very eventful and busy month for me and I’m not gonna be able to have time to work on any videos. I do have some ideas for when I do return tho which I think y’all will like. That’s all for now-Sam🤙
That's fine man, take your time, we'll be here for you when you're not too busy hopefully. Take care.
One for the TVS:
What if Derek had returned, instead of Paxton replacing him?
For RWS:
What if Henry actually did die in the flying kipper incident?
1. What if Awdry wrote Sodor’s Legend of the Lost Treasure?
2. What if Salty, Emily, Spencer, Murdoch, Arthur, Fergus, Molly, Stanley and Lady appeared in the Railway Series?
3. What if Oliver did manage to escape to Sodor without Douglas?
I would love to see Murdoch In the rws
"I wanted an Atlantic!, and that mother_____ _____ sent me that!"
Also, if Douglas never came to Sodor, Oliver would’ve probably been scrapped unless another engine was there to save him.
He escaped from a scrapyard
“are you a fat controllers’s engine…”
“yes and proud of it..”
“well I’m Oliver Isabell is the one behind me and the van is toad”
“you’re being scraped aren’t you…”
“yes…”
Donald remembered what happened to his brother all those years ago
“Driver couple me up to him“
“What are you doing…”
“saving you.”
NOT OLIVER
Ermmm my name is Oliver
Another engine would’ve, if Douglas never came then another engine would’ve had to taken that train like James or Edward
There needs to be someone to pull the Midnight Goods so yeah, he would've been saved regardless
Still it would be interesting if Both never came to Sodor and someone like James saved him instead
What if Rev W. Awdry had continued writing RWS past No.27 Tramway Engines and how that could have affected railway preservation?
In terms of Railway Preservation I'd argue nothing would change, Thomas would still be popular.
However we may have gotten better stories or more Railways/Lines expanded on Sodor.
The stories would be more interesting.
Think about this as well. If Douglas never came to Sodor, Oliver either wouldn’t have escape entirely, or he would’ve been scrapped at Barrow assuming Donald didn’t find him instead
I don’t think Oliver would’ve been scrapped even without Douglas making it to Sodor, I think any other engine would’ve found him by chance anyways
Or maybe Donald would refuse to leave Scotland without Douglas, and The Fat Controller would either have to buy both of them, or a completely different engine.
@@jaanshersaeed4541 yes, but would james or percy save an engine? The only ones i could think of is edward or henry,
@@ConeHeadMan1 Percy definitely would be willing to save anyone since he and Thomas saved Old Slow Coach from scrap and he also saved James from the landslide in TOTB but James would be more concerned about saving himself over other engines from scrap any day unless he’d think he’d get praise and some reward for it by Sir Topham Hatt
@@jaanshersaeed4541 well, being brave isn't the only thing, theres
-a close call with scrap, douglas was almost scrapped, this crosses of
Thomas
Possibly gordon
James
Percy
Duck
Donald
-visibility, a bright color would give them away, or large shape in general, this crosses off
Henry
Gordon
Edwards the only one left, and we can cross him off because he works from wellsworth to brendam, almost all the way across the island,
I got three what if featuring Thomas.
1. What if Buffers stopped Thomas from crashing into the stationmaster's house?
2. What if Thomas never arrived at Sodor?
3. What if Thomas never went to the national railway show?
(I just realized I've got all of the three eras of Sir Topham Hatt lol)
1) Thomas wouldn't get his new shape but nothing would really change except Daisy not being on Sodor.
2) Scrap, his class was terrible.
3) Nothing would really change, he'd just never meet Green Arrow and the other engines there.
1.Thomas would have remained in his old shape(as in the television series).
2. Edward... Edward... Would be the protagonist of tv series. And the show would be called Edward the litlle Blue tender engine and friends.
3Almost nothing would change.
And daisy never come to sodor.
No Daisy, and BoCo probably would have returned in CAE and S20 instead
@@ThomasSirHandel It would be cool if BoCo returned to SLoTLT and S20.
With the BR Standard one, I think one possiblity would be Thomas's branchline could become a small heritage railway after getting closed in the Beeching Acts. Have some of the NWR engines preserved, mostly the original 8, but some would likely still meet the torch once the diesels came.
I think Ffarquhare, Brendam & Peel Goodred would survive but Arlesburgh, Kirk Kronan & Nooramby would Fall.
Ffarquhare because it's Thomas's Branchline and it is preatty får away from the built up partis of sodor. Brendam & Peel Goodred would servive because of there industries. The Brendam Branch hase The Clay Pits & Brendam docks and Peel Goodred hase the Electric Power Plant & Aluminium works.
I think a cool What if is what if the Arlesdale Railway wasn't built and the Mid Sodor was revived instead?
According to the History of Sodors lecture the initial plan was to borrow a Skarloey Railway engine and have them run on the old rails of the Mid Sodor, but there were none to spare. So if they were able to do just that, we could've seen Peter Sam and Sir Handel retreading their old grounds, which would've been sweet. And Duke likely would've been found a little sooner.
That sounds like a very good idea but what about Rex Bert and Mike would they have still been on the mainland
Basically my plot line for my RWS is Douglas doesn’t escape gets sent to a scrapyard that’s on sodor and Edward on one of his scrap runs finds him in the back behind a lot of other stuff either trucks or just simply locomotive parts mentions it to Donald and Donald convinces fat hat to buy him that’s how I’ve wrote it
Clever
Very good
@@theflyingkipper42 thank you
Here’s my question.
What if Gordon participated in the 1948 Exchange Trials?
This is a great topic, Mattel should cancel All Engines Go entirely and replace it with a new series called "Sodor's What If?". That idea would be a million times better IMO.
I’d love to see one of these! Here’s a question: what if Henry hadn’t been shut up in the tunnel?
He'd probably be an uninteresting background character.
I think Henry would have been less skittish then.
Well, what if he STAYED in the tunnel? I mean, it’s a common misconception among people who don’t watch Thomas, so, the possibility of it being true would be something to imagine.
Here’s an interesting one: what if Bertram never met William Stanier? Henry might’ve been scrapped due to no financial backing from William & the 1925 agreement with the LMS might not’ve happened, because again, Stanier & Hatt were close friends. The latter might’ve still happened, but it still leaves you to wonder
I loved this, one idea I had was what if Thomas was a J70 (AKA what was originally intended) i think that could have some very fun implications on the stories.
Unfortunately that idea is popular in the Fandom.
Most likely, Thomas wouldn't change that much, just a different design and lb&scr e2s would be near forgotten.
it's actually a J50
There's actually a fanfic with Premise no. 1 which ends with Donald discovering Douglas and Oliver on the run at Barrow several years later.
(Although the idea of Douglas being preserved is also a good one. Maybe he ends up at Brechin rather than Aviemore, and maybe spends an extended period at Ropley?)
That would be a very good idea
Name?
@@TankEngine75 Donald without Douglas
What if STH knew Donald had a twin he was close to when he was buying him (ie, their old manager was trying to sell them together), but denied him knowing he would be scrapped? And then pretended at ignorance upon meeting them to save face.
I have a Donald without Douglas headcanon about this where Donald suspects it and resents/silently hates him for it.
Okay, okay, this is more my headcanon than a what if, but hey.
Nothing would really change, but theres a small chance Sir Topham Hatt would threaten Douglas however.
An interesting idea. I like it. In fact, I think I might have a few suggestions.
What if Diesel never came to Sodor? Perhaps a more friendly diesel could have been purchased by the Fat Controller for a trial. Like Paxton, or Sidney.
What if we actually got Barry the Rescue Engine? Endless possibilities there.
What if Emily was a Sodor & Mainland Engine? This is an idea I've heard multiple times over the years.
Oh, here's a thought. What if the NWR was run by someone else? What if the Fat Controller and his forefathers never stuck around after Sir Topham Hatt I? That's a bit of food for thought.
i guess thats where id come in to play😅
2:06 That'd actually be an interesting way to rewrite Escape/Little Western, and to wrap up this supposed character arc. After saving Oliver, Donald can feel he avenged Douglas in a way by rescuing another.
Wouldn't have happened. Douglas took the Scrap train because Donald takes Heavy Goods as he was bought to do not to mention D199's train earlier that day.
Oliver would have been caught in that timeline unfortunately.
@@ChimpManZ1264 someone would need to take the midnight goods, so Oliver still would have been saved by someone.
@@everythingproductions2004 But by that time Diesels were the option so a Diesel would have taken it and Oliver wouldn't have risked calling out. He just wouldn't have known.
@@ChimpManZ1264 I understand. That’s your opinion, and I can handle it. Let’s just agree to disagree
This was really interesting! One that I’ve got is “What if STH never had any children?”
The legacy would end there and would most likely lead into Beeching taking over and enforcing BR standards meaning a lot of engines would be scrapped and a lot of lines would be closed.
@@redboxgamingyt3452 Interesting idea.
Probably better left like that.
@@redboxgamingyt3452
Or a nephew could take over
Idea. What if James actually did get painted blue?
He'd be less of an individual and more of a reoccurring background character, especially since Awdry wasn't a fan of him.
James would be a less proud minor character in the background.
So, I have an interesting idea for a TV series what if?: What if Hank was a USATC S160? I have a whole head canon behind this.
Nothing would change, he never even had an effect on the plot anyways.
I really want to see a part 2 pleeeaaasssee!!!.
My question is
What if Henry, Gordon and James never went on strike?
No Percy
@@redboxgamingyt3452 yes but how would that affect the entire series?
@@Airenapsk I think then instead of percy in knapford would immediately come Duck. And instead of Percy, someone would come to help build the harbor. And instead of Percy, someone else would come to Thomas' branch. And there would be no tale of the brave.
@@theflyingkipper42 that is actually pretty interesting
@@Airenapsk thanks.
Interesting video, and yes my idea: what if the Duck never left knapford.
And what if Oliver never escaped
He'd just be a forever station pilot and I don't think the Great Western would be much of a thing.
@@theflyingkipper42 Scrap
@@redboxgamingyt3452 Well, I think then the great Western branch would either not have existed or it would have been serviced by someone else. And there wouldn't be characters like Phillip, Dennis, and Billy.
For RWS what if Awdry didn’t rush his third book James the red engine.
James probably would of had a much better character arc and more prominent role in the rws also being in the tvs
You should make a series out of this this was fun
I have 2 ideas.
What if James wasen't painted red??.
What if Paxton came to sodor in 1957 instead of Diesel??.
Paxton is better than diesel
And he and Duck would get along WAY better.
Right
Plus i think fore my ideas a sodor would be preaty diffrent. If James was always black not red then i think he would not be as vain and full of himself, instead he would be more down to earth and focused on hard instead of his paint.
And for my second theory if Paxton came to Sodor instaed of Diesel nit only would the events of 'Duck & the Dieasel Engines' be very diffrent but i also think that with Paxton's easy to like persinality the steam engines would be mutch more exepting of dieasel engines.
Donald would save Oliver and Escape would be a 9/11 controversy
Cheers for the shoutout mate! Always a treat seeing your vids. Keep it up.
For the part about sodor actually being forced from BR to be standardize, this would mean a lot of engines being reallocated like Thomas would probably go to Southampton docks with the rest of his siblings. But this would also mean other things like more characters appearing like standard designs such as Arthur and Murdoch having an excuse of appearing in the rws and characters leaving with old engines like Toby and Edward being withdrawn since both furness k2 and j70 trams should have been withdrawn years ago before BR even took over
The J70 tram engines lasted into the 1950s so did work under British Railways. Maybe Mavis could be the first diesel on the NWR as her basis replaced Toby's in the 1950s.
The scrapping was caused by Phillp Shirley and Ernest Marples, not Beeching, Beeching attended the opening of the Bluebell and South Devon railways, he gave railway preservation his blessing, he also ensured Fenchurch was kept in storage after withdrawal until the Bluebell could afford it (Beeching lived in East Grinstead)
I’d like to see more of this.
Also: What if the Mid Sodor Railway never closed down?
Or how about this? What if the Skarloey Railway and the Mid Sodor Railway joined together to make one Railway?
Hey I just watched the whole video and this is a great idea if you make this a series this would be so fun to watch I also like your editing style for this video it feels very relaxing and that’s awesome. Great job and I am excited for when you decide to upload again
Glad to see one of my questions made it on here!
Here is an idea or two.
If the other two blue engines were retained?
What if the other red engine back story was developed?
You mean 98462 and 87546? And that red engine that looks like James? I personally like to think that that’s Geoffrey from “Who’s Geoffrey?”.
@@ciarangleeson2880 Yes, that is correct. The 'mean' blue engines.
And the other red engine I mean the bigger one of James and seems to be an A2 Pacific. As I know that the James looking one has the fan term of Eagle, and why it is named after a bird and not a human name, I have no clue.
I like some of these what if, I thought the skarloey railway and Thomas not getting his branchline was pretty interesting as well as Donald and Douglas not being together
Here’s my what on about Toby he’d be turned into a brakevan
If i had reality warping powers; I'd make What If? scenarios like this a reality via videos on UA-cam. Same with a bunch of other speculative, along with lost, media.
I'm the curious type so i'd love to see these ideas realised.
I got one… or should I say two?
What if Henry was successful AND what if Edward was built during 1900-1905?
This is how my AU is going to be like.
I like to think that if the northwestern was forced to follow BR principles, The fat controller would still try and find a way to preserve his engines in someway shape or form.
For one depending on when the Story Takes Pl., Stepney has already stated (likely with the approval of his manager since he was on the railway to at that time) but they’re all welcome on the Bluebell Railway. Now obviously they can’t take everyone but I imagine that would save a fair amount of the engines.
On top of that due to the Engines relative popularity in the railway series I’m sure multiple railway museums would be lining up to purchase a member of the fat controller’s eight famous engines. And I know this happens far later in the books but Thomas did become an honorary member of the great railway museum so I see no reason he couldn’t join that.
Maybe Gordon would be sold to the Flying Scotsman’s Owner?
Very nice idea
It does make me wonder though why didn't the NWR have to follow the BR standard, was the railway series that popular that if BR changed anything I'd be controversial, or was the NWR inconsequential to BR's grand plan
What if awdry would be able to make Henry/gordon's toy for cristopher and thomas never existed?
Railway Series would be different in a lot of ways.
Possibility the biggest difference would be that the Railway Series would most likely be focused on Larger/Tender Engines and the Small Engines would pretty much be nothing more than just background characters.
@@redboxgamingyt3452 Interesting.
3:00 Thats the tay bridge for anyone wondering
Happy 77th!
Finally after all these days later you have uploaded a new upload.
Love the video! I can’t wait to see what you have next time!
What if Reginald Dalby illustrated Percy as how Awdry vision him to be
What if the Island of Sodor had ZERO diesels whatsoever.
It'll be outdated, perhaps?
Happy 77th anniversary of the Railway series
I think if Edward had been preserved, his replacement could have been another Metropolitan Vickers Type 2 diesel. Probably around 1968. Maybe a couple more to work goods trains & banking at Gordon's Hill as well.
What if All Engines Go is just a simulation made by those scientists from that one weird 2013/14 movie?
As SOON as I saw a recycled J70 Tram I said: "Noo, Toby..!!"
6:41 wouldn't it make more sence if it was a C1 Atlantic that he wanted?
Here's an idea: What if Thomas was instead an LNER J50 as Awdry actually wanted him to be, either as first illustrated or rebuilt into the useful engine we know and love him as of today?
Like the other comment, nothing would change really except design.
Only if the illustrators followed Awdry
Question. Is your Intro supposed to be a reference to the Season 4 (I think?) Episode "Fish"?
What if the S&M engines were still around?
Reply to this comment if you have a what-if question (not just for the rws but for the entire franchise) and i'll answer it
What if Henry had been A C1 atlantic?
What if the duck was a diesel? (very, VERY strange idea).
@@theflyingkipper42 He answered that
@@theflyingkipper42 Then duck would be the engine on trial instead of diesel and (assuming ducks character traits don't change) he would be bought. Also what diesel class. I'm assuming an 08
@@Empireofignorance7817 nice
Think about this, if Christopher didn’t get the measles, none of us, would exist. NONE.
How would be the engine to replace Edward if he got Preserved
Probably be another BR Class 28 diesel like CoBo (BoCo's brother).
Tail lamp Studios, qual é o nome da música/tail lamp Studios, what is the name of the music
What If The Skarloey Railway Closed INSTEAD OF THE MID SODOR RAILWAY
I bet the twin engines book would be called Donald the Scottish engine.
Or Donald The Goods Engine
Good video! 👏👏, and don't think of this as a goodbye think of it as..See you next time :)
Here we go
What if the nwr had to Go with the railway ACT of 1921 where the big tour Railways where formed
Idk just thought id mentioned it just to add on to it
What if Ryan came in 1967
What if the arelsburgh branch went up to harwick
1) Watch an NWR1991 episode.
2) I remember watching SLOTLT.
@@reecenewman8308 alright
6:23 also sir topham hatt and more people could buy out the NWR
These were good theories
What if Barry the rescue engine was published?
I would put up my middle finger to ANYONE who complained and caused that book to be cancelled!
Well, maybe something will have some effect, but the real question is what number the book should have.
What if... the mid sodor railway never closed?
You would have to hired for Mattel creation headquarters to make up with a new idea.
Does anyone else find it funny that the toby what if is number 7 which is Toby's number too?
Oh! I Got a good one. What if STH bought The Flying Scotman instead of Gordon?
Gordon probably would've been scraped, cuz his whole class met the same fate, and Gordon was just like them
Gordon gains another tender and travels the US
What if Thomas was a J50 ? How those details could change the lore?
What if the Mid Sodor Railway never closed?
I do wish that the S&M survived. Or at least for Neil to still be around.
Here is one what if Christopher Awdry made his other cancelled books.
I've noticed on the original Awdry map and various edits of said map by fans that there is an abandoned railway at the northern most end of Sodor that once ran from Harwick, past some smaller towns and eventually to a mine. My question is why the NWR hasn't expanded out that way and use most of the old ROW and what's the story with that abandoned line?
It was a horse drawn railway, closed around the second world war
My RWS Harwick Branch.
Arlesburgh West x Harbour, bridge over river Arle, past Castle Arle, Engine sheds & goods yard.
Past a lighthouse, thrue a rocky terrain into Clagh Oorye station.
Past the north coast of sodor $ Lifeboat station into Harwick station. Plus a extention and loop at Ballaswein.
So what do you think
You mean the cronk and harwick railway
Idea: What if Oliver was never found
What if Al the engines are experimental?
What if "Barry" actually made it into the railway series
I think EVERYONE wishes that had happened!
If that were to happen, then would there be any effect?
Wooooooooooo yeah baby
Thomas is older than Gordon in build year of their class
I imagine that, if the NWR engines did at least have to wear BR liveries and numbers, the bigger engines would not take it so well.
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*GORDON (in BR passenger blue, **#54004**):* I look ridiculous! This is not the proper shade of blue to befit a grand express engine! Disgraceful!
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*HENRY (in BR lined black, **#54003**):* Lucky Gordon gets to keep his blue paint. I look like I've been dipped in ink with this ugly black colour. How unimaginative, despicable and lazy! You cannot apply a few brushstrokes and call it paintwork.
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*JAMES (in BR lined black, **#54005**):* Taking away my splendid red paint is one thing, but having the gall to colour me black is ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING! I look like I've been splashed by a hundred tar wagons! I would rather be painted blue!
James' black livery in that scenario would seem too familiar to him.
During the early days of BR a number of experimental colour schemes were tried, especially for express passenger locos. These included: a light green - similar to Henry but slightly lighter, a light blue - near to Sodor blue, a dark blue - near to the shade used by the Caledonian. In the end express passenger locos became brunswick (GWR) green, mixed traffic locos black with red & white lining and minor locos plain black. But in many cases rules were loosely applied and, particularly on the GWR, some passenger tank engines were in fully lined green.
BR Blue (a horrible shade that faded too easily) didn't come in until well into the diesel era - late 1960s.
If the SKR closed, I feel like it would have been preserved later on, say the 1960s.
This is awsome
Love this
What if
Godred never fell off the mountain
The mid sodor never closed
Thomas was a j50
Peter Sam and Sir Handel were scrapped
Duke was never found
Edward died in Edward's exploit
Both D199 and Bear were sent away
What if there was never a drawbridge to the mainland?
Thomas wouldn't have to jump in the great race movie.
@@theflyingkipper42 😑
What if Thomas was a J50?
What If Book No.22 Was About Rebecca The Yellow Engine Then Small Engines Would Be Still In The CGI Series
What if Thomas was actually a J50
Hi Taillamp Studios
I have a what if. The engien were biuld by the Railway him self.
Whould all arrivel in the 1940s and preserve the S&MR. The W&SR
And the TKER.
To be more clear, the Tidmouth Knaford Elsbrigh railway
Na verdade se henry fosse um atlântico, os acontecimentos que ele teve na RWs vai acontecer tipo: a história triste de Henry, o voador keeper, ou seja gordon ia ficar no lugar do Henry caso que esses acontecimentos aconteça, o motivo de the sad history of Henry acontecer é por causa quero Henry odiava a chuva, então os acontecimentos ia acontecer, tipo o Gordon ia ter que ser comprado para ficar no lugar do Henry quando o Henry ficou no túnel, ou talvez , o expresso seja muito para o Henry, então sir topam hat comprou Gordon para ajudar Henry
I wanted an Atlantic!
And not this
What if?
Guys here is my question
1.) What if Henry was a C1 Atlantic and never bricked up in a tunnel
Hmmmmm, not a bad idea
I have two more.
What if Thomas was a j50?
What if James never crashed?
1)Nothing but the design would change.
2)Thomas wouldn't have had his own line and no coaches. James would have remained black and with unsafe brakes.
@@theflyingkipper42honestly the brakes would of caught fire in some shape or form
that’s cool but what if oliver was never saved?
what if Thomas wasn't number one and the same way the engines arrived depended on their number??😮