"Devin Haney Don't Want To Fight Shakur Stevenson" Haney Offering 25% Means He Don't Want To Fight.

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  • Опубліковано 28 сер 2023
  • Shane Mosley shares his opinion on Devin Haney offering Shakur Stevenson 25%.

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  • @Jeff_Thomas
    @Jeff_Thomas 10 місяців тому +79

    Make Shane a regular Art. 💯

  • @Rlambjr21
    @Rlambjr21 10 місяців тому +91

    Yes. Its possible that Haney gave Shakur the 75/25 offer because he doesnt want the fight. But Im not running with that. Haney took a 70/30 offer to fight Kambosos (That's not a long way off from 75/25). Haney isnt asking Shakur to do something that he didnt already do. Also, the 75/25 offer was an opportunity to fight for undisputed. Lately, Shakur has been complaining that he cant get any fights. He should've took the 75/25 offer, won the belts, then everybody who Shakur's been trying fight to will be trying to fight him.

    • @kddalivest2340
      @kddalivest2340 10 місяців тому +13

      I agree, Haney has all belts offering him a chance to put his name in the history books as one of the few undisputed champs and it’s not like you already have a belt and gonna make more fighting anyone unless it’s Tank. That 25 percent I’ll be worth 70% of what he’ll get fighting anyone besides Tank.

    • @davidjohnson8176
      @davidjohnson8176 10 місяців тому +5

      The pros know what's going on

    • @activelysublime
      @activelysublime 10 місяців тому +5

      I believe whole heartedly he know shakur wasn’t gonna take that they’ve known each other for years. I also believe whole heartedly shakur should have taken the fight became undisputed and used the belts to fight tank for the people. Ego a mf fr 😅

    • @francisco231
      @francisco231 10 місяців тому +12

      Preaaacchhh! Not a Haney fan but dude took the short end of the stick to get those belts because he was confident he would win. If shakur would have took the split and won then HE would be calling the shots.

    • @Coco-xw3wp
      @Coco-xw3wp 10 місяців тому +7

      That's bc pillow fist Haney was desperate to be champion bc he knows he's nothing without them belts... They can't compare Shakur to kambozo WTF!! Oldest trick in the book!!

  • @harveym4
    @harveym4 10 місяців тому +7

    Praying for you sugar Shane

  • @gorillamafia5144
    @gorillamafia5144 10 місяців тому +34

    I understand what he’s saying but you got to realize Haney had to take a pay cut to fight kambosos so I 100% understand Haney wanting to get his money

    • @rebel1k792
      @rebel1k792 10 місяців тому

      Haney took 65/35 tho

    • @lefez9015
      @lefez9015 10 місяців тому +9

      Even if that's true, Haney actually had a belt and several title defenses at LW. Shakur has none of that.

    • @gorillamafia5144
      @gorillamafia5144 10 місяців тому +2

      @@lefez9015 that’s 📠

    • @TroyBell-cz8wg
      @TroyBell-cz8wg 10 місяців тому +3

      ​@@lefez9015shakur is a bigger draw tho dummy

    • @TroyBell-cz8wg
      @TroyBell-cz8wg 10 місяців тому +3

      Shakur sells out arenas Devin don't it's a difference

  • @jasonborne4931
    @jasonborne4931 10 місяців тому +11

    Shane is tripping. 25% is cool for a boxer who doesn't have a resume. Shakur is a great fighter but he's no A side he doesn't bring in the amount of money warranted for some one deserving of 50% Devin went through BS to get to where he's at respect his grind!

    • @jayagainsthumanity
      @jayagainsthumanity 10 місяців тому +2

      No it’s not especially when you’re the one bringing the most money lmao Ryan Garcia didn’t even have that bad of a split with Tank. Haney last fight didn’t even sell out.

    • @ethereal7772
      @ethereal7772 10 місяців тому

      Shakur is a 2 division champ and sells more tickets and gets more views than devin

    • @jasonborne4931
      @jasonborne4931 10 місяців тому

      @@ethereal7772 That's fine a hell of a accomplishment. Devin however is undisputed...Net worth for both in 2022 Devin 7million Shakur 3 million. Devin is independent like Ray Leonard Roy Jones and Money Mayweather.

  • @Superb_virg
    @Superb_virg 10 місяців тому +8

    He offered him 25% because he’s undisputed.

  • @rcc019
    @rcc019 10 місяців тому +46

    Shane just gave the best assessment ive heard yet on Shakur vs Devin

    • @negusibe9232
      @negusibe9232 10 місяців тому +13

      How when Haney took same too be undisputed 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @EDOGZ818
      @EDOGZ818 10 місяців тому

      @@negusibe9232 Took less but, I agree with RCC, if Haney really wanted to fight, he would have given Shakur 95% and took 5%, like Shane would have done if he had ALL 4 belts! Shakur didn't duck Haney by refusing to fight for 25% and ALL the belts.
      Shakur has a better deal with Martin right now, for more money and more belts...oh Wait...no he doesn't.
      ** Tokes on rcc's spliff and offers some to @negu **
      "Hit this man...the more you smoke, the less stupid rcc sounds."

    • @marvindelmas5285
      @marvindelmas5285 10 місяців тому +1

      How? He said Shakur had a problem with Crawford, but if Devin fought Crawford he would have a problem too.That was the worst assessment

    • @JohnKing-jz9zb
      @JohnKing-jz9zb 10 місяців тому +2

      Word.. I’m a big shakur fan but people acting like he gonna Just run thru Haney is bugging.. for one Haney is a defensive fighter just like him and has a longer reach.. not to mention shakur haven’t been battled tested like Haney was vs lomochenko.. I still got shakur but it’s a 52 to 48 fight in my opinion

    • @JohnKing-jz9zb
      @JohnKing-jz9zb 10 місяців тому +2

      @@marvindelmas5285no he saying he had trouble because of the reach.. see u wasn’t listening

  • @menaceofmayhem
    @menaceofmayhem 10 місяців тому +39

    The champ doesn’t owe Shakur anything. There are fighters in that division with major skills he needs to be sure he can walk through first.

    • @karliereddfan
      @karliereddfan 10 місяців тому +9

      The email champ does not sell tickets. Shakur does. No one is interested in Devin. The emaciated weight bully cherry picks to build a resume. Names that he knows he can beat. Yet the "champ" won't fight Tank or Shakur.

    • @bobbybrisket1708
      @bobbybrisket1708 10 місяців тому

      He’s on the Floyd route. Beat the shit outta you in your own backyard and his big fights are in Vegas. Whether you there to support or see him lose that’s asses in the seats. Floyd became the pinnacle of the sport with the biggest bag that way. You ain’t sayin shit 😂 Haney still overlapped that man legacy and career wise. What about that? Haney can retire today and he goin to the Hall of Fame

    • @damoncherry5649
      @damoncherry5649 10 місяців тому

      @@karliereddfanso then why y’all crying.. shut tf up

    • @dtaefrm313
      @dtaefrm313 10 місяців тому +5

      Shakur gone put Haney down

    • @skylerwicker7432
      @skylerwicker7432 10 місяців тому

      Shakur got skills bro you got allot of cats dodging him but hey it is what it is onto the next bro shak about to devour Martin 🎉🎉😮

  • @BtheOutLIer
    @BtheOutLIer 10 місяців тому +7

    This is. Great lane for you my man! Great interview with Shane. Would love to hear about his father.

  • @TheMan-dy3vh
    @TheMan-dy3vh 10 місяців тому +15

    Mane I remember when he fought Vernon Forest twice, mane Vernon beat tf outta Mosely. Then Vernon fought Mayorga and got his ass beat twice by him but when Mosely fought Mayorga he beat Mayorga twice. That's y the triangle theory isn't correct. Styles makes fights

    • @jumahbrady670
      @jumahbrady670 10 місяців тому

      Facts 💯

    • @TeeOhh12
      @TeeOhh12 10 місяців тому

      📠

    • @850homeboy3
      @850homeboy3 10 місяців тому +1

      “Come on Shane… hit him back”😢

  • @dashwave2610
    @dashwave2610 10 місяців тому +17

    Damn, hurts to see Shane like this

    • @MOLEGGZ74
      @MOLEGGZ74 10 місяців тому +1

      damm did it catch up with him ? Shh man

    • @jaytrxps1149
      @jaytrxps1149 10 місяців тому +3

      Huh? He speaks fine to me, way better than a couple years ago

    • @NewAgeSlaves
      @NewAgeSlaves 10 місяців тому +3

      He's doing better imo his words more more clear and not as fragmented than some videos I saw in the past

  • @Shahmanati
    @Shahmanati 10 місяців тому +9

    I though he was going to say Shakur don’t want the fight, if he’s getting 20% at the gate he should accept because more money will come after if he wins

  • @Dena132
    @Dena132 10 місяців тому +18

    For Undisputed 25% is perfect

    • @BronerBeast
      @BronerBeast 10 місяців тому +3

      No its not. That number is crazy as hell, I never seen no fight get made off no damn 25%. It should be 50/50, they both no names, but at the most maybe 55/45. 25% is something I have never ever seen in my life

    • @jeromecrockett2311
      @jeromecrockett2311 10 місяців тому +12

      ​@@BronerBeastbro 50/50 are you crazy what is Haney getting out of the deal ???
      Shakur has no belts Haney got 4 belts.. why Haney obligated to defend undisputed twice ???
      Plus Haney is getting weight drained why the hell would haney give shakur 50

    • @jeromecrockett2311
      @jeromecrockett2311 10 місяців тому +4

      ​@@BronerBeastactually undisputed boxers give challengers 25 percent because they ain't bringing nothing to the table

    • @Section8.
      @Section8. 10 місяців тому +5

      @@BronerBeast That 25% was shakur biggest offer of his career LOL

    • @BronerBeast
      @BronerBeast 10 місяців тому

      Yea but they both got trendy names, thats why this would be around the 55/45 range. Mosley knows more than all of you, everything he said was common sense I already knew@@jeromecrockett2311

  • @agentmartagentmart9122
    @agentmartagentmart9122 10 місяців тому +3

    Can’t wait to see the whole interview. This good!

  • @breekthezeek6547
    @breekthezeek6547 10 місяців тому +5

    Accept the 25% beat him, then the bag go up substantially

    • @Dercudez
      @Dercudez 10 місяців тому

      25% is pennies. Boxing is a business at the end of the day & only a dumbass would accept 25% for a big fight like that.

  • @dmoe0074
    @dmoe0074 10 місяців тому +15

    Wait 2.8 million is the most Shakur will ever make rightnow Haney get 4 million a fight he owns his own brand devin had to take it against Loma and kamboses twice pay your dues my boy you bring nothing to the table devin has 4 belts period take it or leave it

    • @CEOTOON
      @CEOTOON 10 місяців тому

      Who dumbass decided to take a crazy split like that?? Haney….shakur isn’t kamboso already a 2 division champion not a e-mail champion…if Haney really want all the smoke give him 35% and fight but he won’t a video just leaked his daddy said they’ll run to 40 if shakur came 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @Nickyd2024
      @Nickyd2024 10 місяців тому

      deven doing better than shakur fir sure

    • @atr2385
      @atr2385 10 місяців тому

      @@Nickyd2024shakur sells way more den devin boring ass

  • @eversway7540
    @eversway7540 10 місяців тому +34

    I think most of us know they don't want to see Shakur, but, Devin has every right to offer, what he wants to offer at this point. Especially after what he just achieved. I had almost forgotten what they did in order to grab those belts. Yesterday in another forum, his father went into detail about the agreement, in order to get that fight with Kambosos. This is the same thing that happened with Bud wanting to fight Errol, a few years back. I had said Errol was being guided, in order to grab the larger purses, prior to fighting Bud. After Bud beat Spence, I found out his team didn't want that fight, although Spence wanted to fight him. That's what champions do, props to Spence. I also stated in that forum, since Shakur's team didn't counter offer, he has no choice but to go to 140 and take those. I heard today that's what he plans to do.

    • @karliereddfan
      @karliereddfan 10 місяців тому +3

      And Shakur has every right to negotiate but the Haneys just will not. Shakur deserves more than 25% being that most fans will come to see him, not Devin.

    • @damoncherry5649
      @damoncherry5649 10 місяців тому +1

      @@karliereddfanthat should make shakur want to beat his ass

    • @karliereddfan
      @karliereddfan 10 місяців тому +1

      @@damoncherry5649 shakur fights for money not emotions

    • @damoncherry5649
      @damoncherry5649 10 місяців тому +2

      @@karliereddfan well if he keep waiting for Devin to spoon feed him.. he gone keep having to beg for that money he fight for.. y’all fans letting them use that excuse is what’s wrong with boxing.. at some point a man should feel challenged enough to bet on himself

    • @karliereddfan
      @karliereddfan 10 місяців тому +1

      @damoncherry5649 his only money fights were kambosos and Loma. The Australian Kambosos sold out the Australia match. Devin got booed in the Loma fight. What tickets is he selling lol. Shakur sold 10,000 by himself just off of real boxing fans who love the sport. Not fanboys.

  • @shall7277
    @shall7277 10 місяців тому +22

    Shakur and Ennis are literally the next crop of for sure GREAT fighters. It's only a matter of time.

    • @deviouslito5011
      @deviouslito5011 10 місяців тому +2

      It’s happened a lot though…. Only time will tell. Will they get Burt out? Can they handle the lime light? Will they start partying or get distracted? Can they perform under certain pressures? Has their chin really been tested?

    • @shall7277
      @shall7277 10 місяців тому +1

      @@deviouslito5011 great questions.. something tells me they'll be fine, but you never really know until you know, right? We shall see..

    • @deviouslito5011
      @deviouslito5011 10 місяців тому

      @@shall7277 yeah…. There were so many up in comers in my time that were supposed to be the next great and just failed or folded. Jermaine Taylor, Oscar De Lahoya, Gamboa, Adrain Broner, Anthony Joshua and that’s just to name a few and some were hype jobs.

    • @deviouslito5011
      @deviouslito5011 10 місяців тому

      @@shall7277 how you got Haney or Stevenson ? I got Stevenson

    • @shall7277
      @shall7277 10 місяців тому +1

      @@deviouslito5011 Stevenson for sure. Devin is very good, I've watched him since he was 7 years old. I'm from Oakland so I've seen a lot of him, but Shakur IS that guy. Period.

  • @positiveandfunny4332
    @positiveandfunny4332 10 місяців тому +5

    😂😂😂😂😂What has Shakur Achieved at 135??????? He just comes to a weight and asks for a title shot ,he is given 25% and declines ,IF HE is Confident to win why not take the 25% ? And ask more in the rematch.

    • @speedyali764
      @speedyali764 10 місяців тому

      Thays what I've been saying bro.

  • @blankspace8758
    @blankspace8758 10 місяців тому +18

    If I'm Haney and I went to another continent twice , took drastic pay cuts to do so, then came back to the USA and beat Loma to become undisputed. I'd be a fool to give Shakur half of the earnings for my next fight when I'm the one giving him a chance at the belts. Haney giving Shakur half basically gives Shakur the glory and financial reward for all of Haneys work. I guarantee that if Loma or pitbull offered Shakur 25%, he'd accept it. The reason he has an issue with Devins proposal is because he feels he's just as good or better and sees another young black man making more than him from the bout. Its more about envy than having a logical business sense.

    • @Supersupremegang
      @Supersupremegang 10 місяців тому +6

      Very accurate assessment of the Puerto Ricans mindset lol he’s jealous of Haney and it’s obvious he’s obsessed with Devin

    • @keystonedriver0299
      @keystonedriver0299 10 місяців тому

      Man gtfo...Haney offered that man a low split because he didn't want to fight! Talking that black man sht when Devin gave the white boy a better split than his fellow brother!

    • @user-he2qj3go2o
      @user-he2qj3go2o 10 місяців тому

      Loma wouldn't offer that low and pitbull is in no position to make a offer that low and to try to.make it a race issue shows you're a clown shakur is a two division champion and a former unified one who's higher on the pound for pound list than Haney 25 percent is a insult to his achievements and that's why Haney went so low because he knew shakur wouldn't take it

    • @damoncherry5649
      @damoncherry5649 10 місяців тому

      @@user-he2qj3go2owell that’s shakur fault..if I know beating you gives me everything.. and I’m better then you.. I’ll whoop your ass for 10 percent.. because I’m cashing out every fight after that

    • @Rollin225
      @Rollin225 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@user-he2qj3go2owhat did Shakur achieve at 135 exactly?

  • @rebellion7463
    @rebellion7463 10 місяців тому +13

    This man is always off with his opinions and predictions 😂😂

    • @Rollin225
      @Rollin225 10 місяців тому

      He has an agenda 😒

    • @blackdonte24
      @blackdonte24 10 місяців тому

      Always! Dude’s a clown!

  • @jameeljohnson106
    @jameeljohnson106 10 місяців тому +12

    Shane knock it off Haney just took the bare minimum against kambo why in the hell would he give Shakur the max Shakur should take what's offered get the belts

    • @shall7277
      @shall7277 10 місяців тому +3

      Haney had never had a legit belt 😂 Shakur was already a two division champion 😂 can't even compare the two lol. I hate when people try to make that connection, it's silly

    • @CEOTOON
      @CEOTOON 10 місяців тому

      Kambosos isn’t shakur

    • @jameeljohnson106
      @jameeljohnson106 10 місяців тому +7

      @@CEOTOON kambo had belts what do Shakur have

    • @jameeljohnson106
      @jameeljohnson106 10 місяців тому +6

      @shall7277 haney is undisputed he is the A side Shakur has nothing go head gamble take the belts and raise the value

    • @westside8514
      @westside8514 10 місяців тому

      @@shall7277YET ONE IS ON PPV, THE OTHER ON ESPN FOR FREE 😂😂😂

  • @chentreyes9316
    @chentreyes9316 10 місяців тому

    This Shane interview is just Gold.

  • @1lottz
    @1lottz 10 місяців тому +1

    Art, lovin the diversity in your content brudda 💯. Keep up the good work 👌🏾

  • @alkuya546
    @alkuya546 10 місяців тому +6

    Totally disagree Haney was offered 25% to fight Kambosos and he accepted it and went to Australia not once but twice.If Shakur is confident he beats Haney and the belt is more important than money then he will accept 25%

    • @keystonedriver0299
      @keystonedriver0299 10 місяців тому

      Kambosos was EASY WORK!

    • @matrixseven8528
      @matrixseven8528 10 місяців тому

      @@keystonedriver0299EASY WORK FOR WHO 😂😂😂😂
      OH EASY WORK WHEN HE BEAT TEO HUH

    • @keystonedriver0299
      @keystonedriver0299 10 місяців тому

      @@matrixseven8528 Easy work for Devin!!! Did you have Kambosos beating Dev? Fk no....Styles make fight.

    • @matrixseven8528
      @matrixseven8528 10 місяців тому

      @@keystonedriver0299 THAT’S RIGHT DUMMY !!!!
      But I remember when KAM beat Teo, y’all was damn near for sure he was beating Devin next 🤡🤡

    • @keystonedriver0299
      @keystonedriver0299 10 місяців тому

      @@matrixseven8528 Man if don't gtfo you B.A.N! The only way i saw Dev losing was if they robbed him. EASY WORK, like I said.

  • @Defmek82
    @Defmek82 10 місяців тому +13

    Offering 25% after becoming undisputed by working your way to victory and taking low offers to get there doesn’t mean Devin doesn’t really want the fight. Why should he just offer Shakur a great deal when Shakur hasn’t even sacrificed to get opportunities.

    • @Rizzantor30000
      @Rizzantor30000 10 місяців тому

      Shakur is an Olympic medalists...and an undefeated pro I dont think you know anything about sacrifice saying that dumb shit....25% isn't a real offer especially when the champ will be the underdog and NOT the main draw

  • @big50_offthemuscle6
    @big50_offthemuscle6 10 місяців тому

    Shane Mosley should do more interviews, definitely like his point of view when it comes to boxing

  • @Legendarychamp
    @Legendarychamp 10 місяців тому +11

    I love Shakur but hes not the A side in this fight. Devin has huge accomplishments take the risks take the belts and become the A side.

    • @karliereddfan
      @karliereddfan 10 місяців тому +2

      Shakur sells more tickets than Devin. Everyone knows devin doesn't sell. Kambosos filled out the arena in his home country, Australia. And Loma vs Haney DID NOT SELL OUT. The media will push it as such, but there were almost 3,000 tickets left and the PPV was a huge upset. People will go to see SHAKUR. So who's really the A side?

    • @karliereddfan
      @karliereddfan 10 місяців тому +2

      Shakur made $3+ mill his last fight. If he is fighting the email champ he needs to up his value. He is a prize fighter. For money.

    • @Rollin225
      @Rollin225 10 місяців тому

      ​@@karliereddfanstop lying you dirtbag. Shakur has never been on payperview and he's fighting in small arena's. That's why he doesn't have nearly the money Devin has and that's the reason behind all of this Jealousy!!!

    • @ElMensajero-hs4qz
      @ElMensajero-hs4qz 10 місяців тому +3

      Devin doesnt sell tickets. Boxing is a business, whoever sells more deserves more money. Look at Devin audience numbers, the arena is literally empty. The only ok he numbers he did were in Australia because Kambosos was from there and in the Loma fight with Loma fans. You casuals don’t understand boxing businesses

    • @ElMensajero-hs4qz
      @ElMensajero-hs4qz 10 місяців тому

      @@karliereddfancorrect. These casual idiots don’t understand boxing is a business

  • @kddalivest2340
    @kddalivest2340 10 місяців тому +36

    Dev ain’t in no hurry to fight Shakur but he earned his right to offer 25%. He had to take concessions to make it happen.

    • @ZimMill
      @ZimMill 10 місяців тому +9

      Foh… Devin Rightfully Is The A-Side Cus He Has All The Belts… But He Nowhere Near Deserve A 75% Split… He Not A Big Enough Star Or Even A PPV Attraction To Demand That
      & Shakur Not Some Unknown Prospect. He’s A 2 Division World Champ & Is #9 On The P4P List… The Only Person That Can Justify Offering Shakur 25% Is Tank… Nobody Else… Devin Knows This Too, That’s Why He Sent That Bogus Offer Cuz He Doesn’t Wanna Fight Kur. At All

    • @_SugarBear_
      @_SugarBear_ 10 місяців тому +1

      You know nothing John snow

    • @kddalivest2340
      @kddalivest2340 10 місяців тому +2

      @@ZimMill Bruh at the end of the day the facts is Dev has ALL the belts and although Kur is good he has done nothing to deserve much more. KUR brings nothing but bragging rights. I’d say 30% max just being honest and I’m a Bigger Shakur Fan than Dev. That 25-30 percent Yall bashing will still be his highest payday.

    • @kddalivest2340
      @kddalivest2340 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ZimMill I’d argue Dev has more negotiating power than Tank vs Kur. Tank has no belts and if he keeps it up he’ll be remembered as a step above a UA-cam boxer

    • @Supersupremegang
      @Supersupremegang 10 місяців тому

      @@ZimMill
      That’s not how it works bro…He has all four belts and you want him to take a 60/40 split? That’s ridiculous and Stevenson is coming to the table with absolutely nothing. Also Stevenson has never been on PPV while Haney done that 3 times averaging about 150-175 buys plus 17K thousand in attendance. Those are prime Crawford numbers which is great in this streaming service era. I just don’t understand why Shakur who hasn’t fought anybody at 135 deserves a 40 percent split because 5% isn’t a big difference.

  • @glizzy2911
    @glizzy2911 10 місяців тому +2

    Shane is boxing through n through.. wanna ask him about the round he rocked Floyd.. can listen to he’s assessment all day 👊🏿💯🔥

  • @drinkmorewater2798
    @drinkmorewater2798 10 місяців тому +18

    I've always thought Dev would "side step" the Dev fight and move to 40 but he offered him %25. If it was anyone else I'd say a duck offer but Dev took a short and went overseas twice. Shakur should have taken the offer, once those belts scatter undisputed not happening for him anytime soon.

    • @eversway7540
      @eversway7540 10 місяців тому +1

      It seems difficult for them to understand that.

    • @spenser6353
      @spenser6353 10 місяців тому

      @@eversway7540this is prize fighting. Ain’t nobody taking 25% when you’re a top fighter. That’s disrespectful

    • @redishdude
      @redishdude 10 місяців тому

      ​@@spenser6353he is not a top fighter. He still a prospect.

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes 10 місяців тому

      He can’t take no damn 25%. After paying J Prince the mobster, Bob Arum, top tank, trainers, taxes, cut men, taxes.. he won’t be left with NOTHING. This why fighters die broke and have to keep fighting past their prime. Dev’s father knows Shakur is in a bad contract. That’s why he pump faked with the offer.

    • @dmetriusmarch
      @dmetriusmarch 10 місяців тому

      Just cause dev took a short dont mean shakur has to be mr follow the leader and do the same☠️. Especially when dev cant really sell ticket so dev really taking most of shakur money

  • @jaykingthoughts
    @jaykingthoughts 10 місяців тому +1

    Now here’s a fighter I respect! Thank God my remote missed the tv when I threw it at the tv when he caught Floyd lmao. Much respect to Shane Mosley💯👊🏾

  • @j2323j
    @j2323j 10 місяців тому

    this is the video i was looking for

  • @QABRsean
    @QABRsean 10 місяців тому +1

    Vernan forrest.. alot of good fighters i forgot about.. respect shane

  • @lilbutchy00
    @lilbutchy00 10 місяців тому +3

    Devin took 25% to fight 4 Undisputed if Shakur so confident he would’ve did the same

  • @mightymansterling
    @mightymansterling 10 місяців тому +174

    If Haney was willing to travel to another country TWICE, then turn around and put his belts on the line against a great Lomachenko, I highly doubt if bra scared to fight Shakur

    • @CEOTOON
      @CEOTOON 10 місяців тому +47

      Neither were shakur kambosos a bum and he really lost to Loma

    • @mightymansterling
      @mightymansterling 10 місяців тому +4

      @@CEOTOON 👌

    • @easymoneypromotions
      @easymoneypromotions 10 місяців тому +14

      @@CEOTOONshakur is the only bum here he has beat nobody, all he does is clout chase haney and tanks name

    • @dbarnes6028
      @dbarnes6028 10 місяців тому +4

      Tell them folks put the money up, and not for 25% he has a family to take care of

    • @activelysublime
      @activelysublime 10 місяців тому +35

      @@easymoneypromotionssaying shakur a bum is crazy 😅…

  • @4129codubtheman
    @4129codubtheman 10 місяців тому

    Shane said the same thing I said on my IG 65/35 and split the PPV down the middle since it'll be their first PPV fight for both

  • @KCsmakcland
    @KCsmakcland 10 місяців тому +8

    They both ducking each other 😂😂😂 that’s what ppl don’t realize

    • @stevenford167
      @stevenford167 10 місяців тому +2

      Naw Haney don't wanna fight he the A side

    • @kpg9806
      @kpg9806 10 місяців тому +16

      @@stevenford167man please lol stop being a damn groupie for shakur

    • @shall7277
      @shall7277 10 місяців тому +3

      Lol nah, Bill Haney knows what's up. Shakur has ALWAYS put hands on Devin. Everyone knows this. They don't want that fight right now. It's not in their best interest, that's why they gave him a lowball offer..

    • @BlitzboyBoxing
      @BlitzboyBoxing 10 місяців тому +3

      @@shall7277he should’ve took the offer cause the winner gets the bigger split of the purse not to mention it was for all 4 belts lol Shakur ain’t wanna bet on his self

    • @shall7277
      @shall7277 10 місяців тому +2

      @@BlitzboyBoxing the winner doesn't get the bigger split of the purse 😂. What are you talking about lol? The 80/20 split wasn't a winner takes all deal. That's not how this works lol.

  • @terrykirk6951
    @terrykirk6951 10 місяців тому +1

    😅 25%!?....THEIR BOTH DISTANCE FIGHTERS.

  • @kdbmore
    @kdbmore 10 місяців тому

    The best assessment so far. Me myself never thought of Shakur having problems with reach and height.

    • @Ishbikes
      @Ishbikes 10 місяців тому

      Well Dev isn’t Bud. Believe that.. he’s sharp but no power.

  • @CooloWango
    @CooloWango 10 місяців тому +3

    Pillowfist Shakur ain’t even been on PPV yet🤣

    • @rebel1k792
      @rebel1k792 10 місяців тому

      He sold out twice something devin has never done 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @KDogduval
    @KDogduval 10 місяців тому +2

    Ngl Sugar Shane be keepin it a buck frfr. No bias...actual factual.💯

  • @dmar82
    @dmar82 10 місяців тому +1

    I don't always agree with Shane but he was on point with this one. Devin "wet dream" Haney don't want that 💨 wit SS.

  • @rthdmi83
    @rthdmi83 9 місяців тому +1

    This ninja took 25% from mayweather now he said it is unfair 🤣🤣

  • @KobaniacMinded
    @KobaniacMinded 10 місяців тому +3

    If in fact Shakur is getting lowballed by haney.... just take it, just like floyd did for de la hoya he realized the belts and clout he got for winning outweighed the immediate paycheck that put him on top and he never looked back

    • @Feedback406
      @Feedback406 10 місяців тому +1

      Devin Haney is not de la Hoya😂😂
      He not a big star in the sport
      He just another champion and he only fought tomato can kambosos and looked shaky against an old small washed up lomachenko who was coming off a bad performance and long layoff before that
      Y’all act like he had 10+ title defenses and fought Everyman put in front of him
      He fought two guys and already picking and choosing like he a 10 year veteran in his 30s

    • @KobaniacMinded
      @KobaniacMinded 10 місяців тому +3

      @@Feedback406 lol I agree but in negotiations he has the upper hand just like how errol did against Crawford in contract negotiations I'm not a haney fan at all he just has the power of hype and popularity over Shakur right now

    • @jamaalrobinson
      @jamaalrobinson 10 місяців тому +3

      @@Feedback406 And Shakur isn't Floyd.... Epic fail 🤡

  • @rhasheemtendaji6627
    @rhasheemtendaji6627 10 місяців тому

    Shane took the words out my mouth I said the same thing Haney don't want to fight him that's why the offer was low

  • @royal4l_
    @royal4l_ 10 місяців тому

    It’s crazy people think they know better than a professional. SMH

  • @MrHowse-rt5bo
    @MrHowse-rt5bo 10 місяців тому +3

    Didn’t nobody say anything about Kambosos ridiculous prices for Haney, but suddenly these types of offers are news!? With that being said, and as much as I like the Haney’s, that was a weak approach in carrying on a tradition like those who’re against us…

    • @J-Hue
      @J-Hue 10 місяців тому +7

      With the way Shakur's been against Haney, pandering to the other side, I don't think it's bad. If Shakur hadn't tried all the antics he did leading up to the offer, there's a chance he may have got a 30-35% offer.

    • @shall7277
      @shall7277 10 місяців тому +1

      Two completely different situations.. can't even compare the two.

    • @MrHowse-rt5bo
      @MrHowse-rt5bo 10 місяців тому

      @@J-Hue I don’t deny Shakur’s “Top Rank” agent activity being felonious; but it still don’t justify that weak offer. Irregardless of what another does, our integrity don’t/ won’t slip. The Haney’s know better.

    • @MrHowse-rt5bo
      @MrHowse-rt5bo 10 місяців тому +1

      @@shall7277 Please share what the differences are, other then Stevenson not having a belt…

    • @shall7277
      @shall7277 10 місяців тому +2

      @@MrHowse-rt5bo easy. Devin hadn't done anything before his fight with Kambosos. He literally was the email champion. Kambosos beat the guy who beat the guy. So of course going into negotiations he made sure they would get paid the most by having the fight be in Australia. It wasn't going to sell anywhere else. And he put in a rematch clause for the same location. Shakur was already a two division champion. So you can't just give him ANY offer and expect him to take it. People say, "Oh, well, Shakur hadn't done anything at 135lbs though!" another dumb comment. Devin is moving up to 140lbs next, right? Imagine Prograis giving Devin (an established champion now) a lowball offer talking about take it or leave it. Champions ALWAYS get decent share. Should Devin have gotten more? Absolutely. But 80%? Absolutely not.

  • @Nod4
    @Nod4 10 місяців тому +21

    Everyone is saying "25% is too low for Shakur, he doesn't want to fight", How much do you guys think Shakur is worth?
    Before you say a percentage, let me remind you what Shakur brings to the table:
    1. Has no belts at 135
    2. Has no notable wins at 135
    3. Has less followers than Haney
    4. Hasn't been on PPV
    5. Has made less money than Haney

    • @realtalkboxing.
      @realtalkboxing. 10 місяців тому +2

      Shakur has a contract minimum like it or not around 3 mil stop crying

    • @hustlechamp702
      @hustlechamp702 10 місяців тому

      Your right he could definitely negotiate at least 30%,so it makes sense to let this fight keep brewing Shakur will get more shine soon

    • @realtalkboxing.
      @realtalkboxing. 10 місяців тому +4

      All of that shit you listed is DUCK TALK

    • @runnowdielater3075
      @runnowdielater3075 10 місяців тому +4

      @@realtalkboxing. exactly this is going to be a mega fight , why Tf would he take 25% of this biggest fight of his career, even if he think he can beat Haney easily it doesn’t make sense, at the end of the day they are prizefighters

    • @tyarchie5143
      @tyarchie5143 10 місяців тому +1

      I'm confused though. Wouldn't Shakur take that same percentage against someone else who had the belts. I believe Haney made that amount when he had to fight Kambosos. In order to get where you want and you are trying to make a legacy you take the low end to end up reaching the high end. Neither guy brings a lot of money to the table. And Shakur earns about 1.5 million a fight he has not gotten up to 3 million yet. Haney hasn't even made that much on his actual purse splits.

  • @JJohnson313
    @JJohnson313 10 місяців тому +60

    The man with 5 belts offering someone with no belts 25% doesn’t want the fight? The 25% would be more money than Shakur ever made in a fight.

    • @Mattie61588
      @Mattie61588 10 місяців тому +20

      Bruh Haney ain’t no draw to be offering 25 percent and there both with top rank

    • @chrisfrancis9555
      @chrisfrancis9555 10 місяців тому +3

      Thank you 👏 but these casual fans don't understand this

    • @deowrld
      @deowrld 10 місяців тому

      Devin Haney don’t got the wbc no more

    • @derrickwilliams3562
      @derrickwilliams3562 10 місяців тому +11

      Thats why you not a promoter. Haney isnt a financial draw. That means you would be telling Shakur to take 25% of pennies. When Haney took that fight, he still mde $2.5 million due to his opponent being an actual draw. Haney is boring and his last fight with Loma most ppl believe he lost. That pursegotta be more along the lines of 65/35. 75/25 is pure ducking of a fighter of Shakur caliber.

    • @Supersupremegang
      @Supersupremegang 10 місяців тому +3

      @@derrickwilliams3562
      Since when is George Kambosos a PPV attraction? He’s never been on PPV until he fought Haney lol

  • @quinfrmdago1390
    @quinfrmdago1390 10 місяців тому

    Mane Shane make you think 🤔 🔥

  • @user-ot2rw5gu2s
    @user-ot2rw5gu2s 10 місяців тому

    Agree.

  • @andoversandlot8491
    @andoversandlot8491 10 місяців тому +4

    Learned my lesson with Crawford and Spence I’m going for the dawg and Stevenson ain’t got that dawg

    • @stevenford167
      @stevenford167 10 місяців тому

      You sound stupid it's a reason why the A side ( Devin Haney) only offered 25%

    • @shall7277
      @shall7277 10 місяців тому

      The silver medalist two division champion doesn't have dog? 😂😂😂

    • @allinonethegreat
      @allinonethegreat 10 місяців тому

      LAUGHING MY FUCKIN ASS OFF LOL if you think that Haney can beat Stevenson then I finally found a person that I can bet against lol I won $1,050 on some fool that thought Spence had a shot against Crawford lol Stevenson always beat Haney in sparring sessions and he’ll whoop his ass now and you tend to forget he spars with the best fighter in the world Crawford. Let me take your money in a bet.

    • @westside8514
      @westside8514 10 місяців тому +4

      @@shall7277WHO IS KUR BEST OPPONENT 😂😂😂😂
      SMALL MAN VALDEZ OR OLD MAN HERRING 🤡

    • @shall7277
      @shall7277 10 місяців тому +1

      @@westside8514 😂 oh we're doing that? Devin's best opponent is a shot Loma who beat him and a one hit wonder in Kambosos 😂 yeah, you can comb through literally anyone's career and downplay anybody, you just look stupid when you do it lol (that's what they tried to do with Crawford and you see how that goes ended). Shakur is still a two division champion and the negotiations should reflect that.

  • @wearycry8922
    @wearycry8922 10 місяців тому

    Legends and boxing analyst on the highest level dont always speak boxing correctly. They have to show face do favors make money. People know boxing.. regular people. People who love the sport of boxing enough to tell the truth

  • @Armando316
    @Armando316 9 місяців тому +1

    Haney priced himself out.

  • @MikeThaPhilosopher
    @MikeThaPhilosopher 10 місяців тому +1

    This is the same guy that said Spence & Crawford sparred. Dude he talking out his ass

  • @richardboyd6320
    @richardboyd6320 10 місяців тому

    Where was this fair shit when everybody else got the same kind of deal

  • @martincrawford5004
    @martincrawford5004 10 місяців тому

    True statement

  • @pay_it_forward_franklin4469
    @pay_it_forward_franklin4469 10 місяців тому +11

    Devin has a glass-jaw and pillows for gloves #imo

    • @mightymansterling
      @mightymansterling 10 місяців тому +7

      Glass jaws break, I’ve never seen Haney on the floor, and only saw him hurt once

    • @pay_it_forward_franklin4469
      @pay_it_forward_franklin4469 10 місяців тому

      @@mightymansterling #peace Did you see what Shane did to Floyd? When you line the 2 up; it's only a matter of time #respektfully

    • @xGhostRidah
      @xGhostRidah 10 місяців тому +4

      Devin haney knocking people out to the body. Stop it. Haney style is more aggressive and it'll really put shakur to the test.

    • @mightymansterling
      @mightymansterling 10 місяців тому +2

      @@pay_it_forward_franklin4469 haha did you see what Floyd did to Mosley you mean 😂😂 Shane only landed this three hood shots, and got beat the fuck up

    • @pay_it_forward_franklin4469
      @pay_it_forward_franklin4469 10 місяців тому

      @@xGhostRidah#peace Hey no disagreement here but his undefeated career has a very low ceiling #imo. He need to work less on his punch and more on his defense #weallwerewitnesses

  • @SANSOOBOXER_OFFICIAL
    @SANSOOBOXER_OFFICIAL 10 місяців тому +18

    Even Shane doesn't even know what hes talking about!! 😂😂😂

    • @keymikescott2308
      @keymikescott2308 10 місяців тому

      Rs😂 he sound stupid lol

    • @Coco-xw3wp
      @Coco-xw3wp 10 місяців тому

      Yall don't know what you're talking about!! Shane's been in the ring before, you bums probably can't fight... get a life you bum's!!

    • @Devinhaneysucks
      @Devinhaneysucks 10 місяців тому +5

      Why just cuz he doesnt agree with u haney fanboys? Yall kill me bro!!

    • @columbusohio72
      @columbusohio72 10 місяців тому +1

      These industry boxers gotta keep the narrative going

  • @nbaoldgirl
    @nbaoldgirl 10 місяців тому

    Shane 🏆🏆🏆🏆

  • @mr.chambers4823
    @mr.chambers4823 10 місяців тому +1

    Art lit up just hearing the name Shakur

  • @bigmodontfail6229
    @bigmodontfail6229 10 місяців тому

    Casuals would still argue this even after a legend himself did it.😂😭

  • @klccostello1273
    @klccostello1273 10 місяців тому +5

    Shakur dont want to fight. Its funny how people are opinionated when it comes to a black boxer such as Haney outlining the terms of the fight.

  • @positiveandfunny4332
    @positiveandfunny4332 10 місяців тому +1

    Devin was tested came through alot of obstacles (weight ) to be undisputed and here comes Shakur at 35 Asks for opportunity for undisputed fight,he is offered 25% declines 😮What has he achieved at 35 to decline that?????

    • @kinglos7840
      @kinglos7840 10 місяців тому +1

      He’s a multi division world champ on the P4O list who sells out arenas and averages more viewers than Haney…. No one would’ve taken 25% imagine if he sent tank a low offer like that

  • @conlove18
    @conlove18 10 місяців тому

    FACTS

  • @koachk9042
    @koachk9042 10 місяців тому

    Exactly the SAME #s Spence was throwing at Bud and we all saw the outcome!!

  • @NewAgeSlaves
    @NewAgeSlaves 10 місяців тому

    Him not accepting it sounds more like pride, because it would probably be his biggest payday so its not making sense, he's the guy bringing the opportunity to you that you wouldn't otherwise have he's not in position to make demands. (Shakur i mean)

  • @icecoldballing2039
    @icecoldballing2039 10 місяців тому

    65/35 for 60/40 woulda been fair Shakur deserves more than 25%

  • @aaronlondon627
    @aaronlondon627 10 місяців тому

    facts

  • @monte66100
    @monte66100 10 місяців тому

    Right don't wanna fight

  • @BioHypeMoe
    @BioHypeMoe 10 місяців тому +5

    Damn Shane. The punishment over the years caught up with you. It happens to them all

  • @23ryan53
    @23ryan53 10 місяців тому

    people keep bringing up haney and kambosos but who was haney before that fight? Shakur is arguably the most talked about boxer in terms of media right now and he a real 2 division champ soon to be 3

  • @bsunartistic5000
    @bsunartistic5000 10 місяців тому

    To all the thing cats who don't know boxing history this guy fought all top contenders. I wish the Zab Judah and Shane Mosley fight occurred. 25% yeah he doesn't want to fight him. Sugar Shane Mosley Bro personality kept me humble lot 🗝️. Much respect Champ

  • @BlackKen302
    @BlackKen302 10 місяців тому

    25% would be his biggest payday..

  • @menaceofmayhem
    @menaceofmayhem 10 місяців тому +6

    I don’t like how they try and make it seem like Devin is some walk in the park. He can fight.

  • @KingvKing
    @KingvKing 10 місяців тому

    Humbly, I told and wrote on here that Errol Spence left the building rather than challenge Crawford in-ring, post Porter. As Errol did to Porter, post Porter v. Garcia. Haney is speaking the same psychological deficiencies. People hardly speak on gladiatorial psychology, drive and fearlessness.
    ©️Coach Hilario 2023

  • @Wilgenss
    @Wilgenss 10 місяців тому +1

    25% is approximately 8 million lmao and a shot at undisputed

  • @andrerobertson4076
    @andrerobertson4076 10 місяців тому

    Hes the undisputed!!!! Respect that! Shakur dont want to fight go get it

  • @k.smith808
    @k.smith808 10 місяців тому

    Not a problem at all

  • @raulbleedem
    @raulbleedem 10 місяців тому +1

    Shakur should just fight him

  • @m.a421
    @m.a421 10 місяців тому

    A side can offer what they want

  • @barrybattleproductions
    @barrybattleproductions 10 місяців тому

    Isn’t he the same guy who said Errol whooped Bud in sparring? Lmao please

  • @m.a421
    @m.a421 10 місяців тому +1

    If you truly know you will beat someone and "always got the best of them" then ur except the terms and become the a side

  • @SilverLake401
    @SilverLake401 10 місяців тому +1

    Spence tried to do the same shit with Bud last year only offering him 30% of the purse split. He really didn’t want it until Bud FaceTimed him and basically begged for the both of their sakes. I wish Shakur would try that instead of going on Twitter begging Haney

    • @Coco-xw3wp
      @Coco-xw3wp 10 місяців тому +1

      That's right he sure did, but everyone who knows the sport of boxing knew damm well Spence had no chance on beating Crawford and that's why the fight was putt off for so many years bc they knew Spence was a strait up HYPE JOB

    • @SilverLake401
      @SilverLake401 10 місяців тому

      @@Coco-xw3wp facts! 😛💯

  • @doublem.kmasimbaashe1478
    @doublem.kmasimbaashe1478 6 місяців тому +2

    Didnt Shane duck Floyd when Floyd was pretty boy Floyd then when he saw Floyd had traction and was the biggest star in boxing then he wanted the fight when it was convinient for him😂😂😂

  • @jaysspace6321
    @jaysspace6321 10 місяців тому

    For undisputed 12% total fee Haney have to pay so shakur should take the 25% he would call the shots after he win

  • @Eudaimoniainc
    @Eudaimoniainc 9 місяців тому +1

    You guys need to do your homework. He enforced his mandatory which was the wbc & 50-50. Why would you fight with just one belt when you have all the belts, Haney has more leverage hence the 25%. I believe Shakur has more skills however Haney has done more in the sport of boxing. It’s like someone with a 100iq earning six figures (Haney) vs (Shakur) a 200iq guy with only 20k a year. There are levels what Haney has done is documented and fact on. The other hand Shakur hasn’t done ish and will not do ish for the next year in 35.

  • @keithbuxton7517
    @keithbuxton7517 10 місяців тому

    thank god something new. getting tired of keep hearing about biggie and tupac

  • @MidwestBoxin
    @MidwestBoxin 10 місяців тому +1

    Shakur walks through haney.

  • @ronricco9408
    @ronricco9408 10 місяців тому

    They don’t tell no other fighter to do what their asking Devin to do. Why would he give Shakur close to 50% when he brings nothing to the fight, no belts, no PPV numbers. Great fighter but if he wants the A side leverage he has to beat the undisputed guy to get it and it’s makes the tank fight more lucrative, more leverage for shakur if he beat Devin

  • @TheOneAboveAll_
    @TheOneAboveAll_ 10 місяців тому

    Devin took less on both fights with Kambosos and now he calls shots, Shakur hasn't sold a fight outside of Jersey. Boxing is a Business first and a sport second.

  • @keymikescott2308
    @keymikescott2308 10 місяців тому +2

    He’s delusional I take the risk to take 25 percent against kamboss now u gotta give u more nahh buddy we just won’t fight then 😊

  • @kobiecamp1134
    @kobiecamp1134 10 місяців тому +1

    Since when did The Art Of Dialogue start interviewing people that's not somehow related to the 2pac agenda. I mean I thought he was gonna ask Shane was he at the Mike Tyson fight the night that Pac got shot.

  • @ru2yaz33
    @ru2yaz33 10 місяців тому

    Haney got a gift decision against Loma.

  • @slip-n-rollboxing1826
    @slip-n-rollboxing1826 10 місяців тому

    Shane Jerry curl shane. The kid has a Jerry curl. Mayweather words

  • @smokey_410
    @smokey_410 10 місяців тому +1

    Shakur tagged Haney during sparring, beat him to the punch. And thats when they were younger. I would bet on Shakur, he is constantly sparring Bud when preparing for his fights so Haney would be in trouble against him. Plus SS won several titles at 126 and 130 against various champions while Haney only beat Kambosos and (was handed a win) really lost to Loma.

  • @Supersonicherrera8632
    @Supersonicherrera8632 10 місяців тому

    Why Shakur doesn’t accept the offer and period

  • @austinharrisward1598
    @austinharrisward1598 10 місяців тому

    Haney got all the belts his been on ppv what would b a reasonable offer if not 25%

  • @Problemtiq
    @Problemtiq 10 місяців тому +1

    They should put the business aside and just make the fight ??? As a goat him self he should know they out there life on the line every time they get out there . Why as the undisputed champ should Haney give home 40% ? Please make it make sense lol.
    Then he had the nerve to say he him self would fight anyone , ok then so you should mention the fact that shakur should have took the fight . The guy has no belts at 135.. shakur is great but Haney would be dumb to come out and offer him more then what he got vs kambosas