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for scribing keep a washer handy. stick the pen/pencil in the middle and trace around using the edge of the washer. makes perfect templates with a super consistent spacing
Great tip! 🙂
Thanks!
Brilliant.
Just what I need! Thank you.
Système très connu !
Have you thought about renting a RV for the weekend so you can get some first hand experience with how the inside space works for what you need out of your RV before you get too far into your build? Watching videos and talking to RV owners is a good start, but actual experience with using a RV is more informative. My family worked, planned, and dreamed about getting our first RV for about 3 years before we could make it a reality. We watched as many videos as we could find on UA-cam, and talked to every RV owner we knew and saw around town, but the first stay in ours was still an eye opening experience! Welcome to the club, and good luck with your build!
Or maybe go shopping at the local RV dealer-check out all of the different interiors on the market rn
man, you can't enjoy moments with your son like that enough, what a treasured moment! Glad you left that in the video!
Nice job. You may want to think about putting lights in your outside storage bays? It is really nice when you are looking for stuff at night.
Some advice, don’t fit your plywood storage Or walls too flush with the inner shell. Leave a gap as the trailer will flex during travel. You can use rubber gasket so it is sealed to the wall, but still forgiving for flex.
Carpet was a good idea. I would have also put carpet around the holes. The more items you drag over those openings the more it’s going to wear and tear.
Came here to say this exact thing. Stuff like pocket holes are really going to struggle long term with all the flexing.
Dominoes. Use Dominoes so u can feel the hate
Same. I used 5/8" foam backer rod held in with hot glue for a similar thing. Worked quite well.
Great stuff man. You’ve probably already considered this but if not it’s a good idea to have ventilation underneath a bed mattress (otherwise it might mold). That’s why bed slats are a thing. So when I built my campervan internals I cut slots into the plywood bed base to allow airflow. Makes a big difference.
Fantastic tip. Thanks.. I would have forgotten that.
Nice job cutting out the access holes. The way you did it adds strength, allows for storage, but very importantly, removes unnecessary weight. Tow and cargo capacity are key components to track. Thanks for sharing
Insulate those boxes around the plastic wheel covers and the storage under the bed storage area. I don't know if you plan on doing any cold weather camping, but it will help both winter and summer.
One thing I would get is Hyper Vent for under your mattress it will keep your mattress dry
How much moisture are we expecting to need to manage here..... Lol
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You may not want to bury the water lines so well. If they need to be replaced, or repaired you'll have to test your entire build apart.
Also you may want to have a larger opening around your water lines by the wheel wells. When you travel, things rub against each other...also tie the lines down a lot more to stop that movement
You might want to add hinges and some small shocks to the center ply under the bed so you can access storage from inside too
I was just thinking that! Might be easier to use all the storage if the center panel pops up instead of just a single drawer cutout in the front.
I don’t think I would totally hide the electric and plumbing…Leaks happen a lot in RV’s. Also, add some sort of rubber or silicone edging on any point of friction (that half circle in the plywood sheet) for the plumbing/electric lines.
You seem to be doing pretty good with the build. I used to work for Airstream and have built many trailers and motorhomes over my years there. I know first hand about all the scribing and cutting to get things to fit the best that they can. You are making fairly good usage of the space thus far. Though, over my years at Airstream and talking with people that own the trailers, they really like the storage under the bed to be pass through. Meaning access to the majority of the storage from the outside and the inside. Thats why the majority of Airstream trailers are built with the hinged bed top. That way the owner just has to lift the front of the bed and have acces to all the storage from inside the trailer. Its a preference thing though. Your build is different but still makes great usage of space. Cant wait to see the rest of the build!
Love the morning interaction with you and your son. He's growing so dang fast! Can't believe how tall he's getting. Keep up the good work Jason!
Since walk space is a premium, I would suggest Rear Twin Beds with a raised tabletop over the outside storage area. The current 28 FT airstream floor plans will give you a visual from most dealership websites.
Best woodworking UA-camr I know and very entertaining
The foreman/employee relation, is outstanding!!! Well done fella!
It's looking good! One suggestion is to not use flooring materials that can retain water. If you spill water at any point (trust me, you will), it will roll into that carpet and basically never dry out, especially since you life in a very wet area.
Gotta say, every time I see your son it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. You're such a good dude.
I love the relationship you and your son have. You open expressions of love and patience set a great example of what masculinity can look like.
Well, progress is being made. The only thing I would say is to think about weight. You might have all that in your mind, but it will be easy to get too much weight in this thing, as well as it properly balanced for towing. Again, you probably are already thinking about it, but just incase you have not. Looking good.
Having done a full gut camper build, this absolutely jumped out at me as well. Thats a lot of weight at the back of the trailer unnecessarily (like putting a false floor above the waterlines). Should absolutely be a consideration to keep things as light as possible in a camper... especially at the rear. Hopefully he knows this, or reads the comments to take weight into consideration in this build. I'd hate to see all the time and material wasted if weight isn't being considered...
Man the montage of staring and phone searching is me to a tee. It’s the creative process that has to happen. Good job!
Greetings from Ireland 🇮🇪, saw one of these pre lockdown, you'll make it gorgeous, fascinated by them.
1) I'm super impressed and more importantly 2) You've convinced me that I never ever want to try to do this. I'll just watch you do it for the next couple of months.
I have, as I am sure most have, seen many of these videos... You have a nice way of taking us thru your journey, well done!!!
I love this build and anxious to keep following along. You are doing an amazing job!!! I just wanted to pass along a little experience on RVing. You are doing an amazing fit / finish job covering those water lines, etc. That said, RV's flex and vibrate a lot going down the road. Overtime, I've had to make repairs to those lines (either at joints or even just chaffing through openings). I've liked having access to these so I can visually inspect as well as make inevitable repairs. Just a thought. Again, looking forward to the next episodes on this!
That was my first thought too. Could have moved the water lines up over the top of the access doors. Wouldn't have even needed the false floor, and inspections/repairs would be easy.
It might be good to make sure you have a space. For outdoor furniture. Table chairs and extras for the family. For under the awning.
No matter what you are the man any project I see you do you are just phenomenal at you take everything up and beyond of expectation that's all I can say I'm proud to watch your channel
7:49... This hit home. Currently in the process of a 120yr old farmhouse renovation. I spend a lot of time uncovering things I wasnt aware of, so I spend a lot of time in "creative zombie" mode trying to figure out where to go from there.
Looks great so far don’t forget to get the little guy involved my dad had me running errands on building sites when I was 6 he was a carpenter/ foreman he and the rest of the guys taught me carpentry bricklaying plumbing plastering then I became a welder 😂 but the basics have saved me thousands of Pounds over the years
This is my favorite series of videos you’ve ever done! I know it just started but it’s all gonna be AWESOME.
Thanks for including the starring part. This is the cornerstone of my diy and the one thing our projects have in common!
This might be a my favorite build-out of an Airstream...behind Andy's of course. :D Well done Jason. You're going to make something awesome and drool-worthy. Also, there is no "correct way" so long as it's structurally secure and maximizes storage. You've nailed it.
The best part was you hugging your son. No better way to start a day. It was my favourite way to start the day and then make them breakfast. Now they have kids of their own.
for what is worth, you can cut those notches with a forstner/hole saw partially supported on the plywood, it is kind of convenient for the cables and hoses and it is more consistent than free handing it. You're doing a great job, keep at it!
Considering you don’t know what you’re doing, you’ve done a great job. I appreciated your explanations for your decisions at each stage. Now all I have to do is translate your build methods to my camper van build. My van has as many straight lines in its construction as an Airstream, the floor is flat, mostly.
I’m impressed with how quickly you’re moving through this. Looking good!
Cool project - as one would expect from you. If you can go back and add spray-in bed liner in the compartments accessed from outside might make things smell better down the road as invariably less-than-dry items will get stored there and the plywood is a good Petri dish. Then the carpet back on that to keep that stuff from rattling/denting much. Keep it up!
For flooring in compartments I use vinyl flooring. Easy to clean and don’t soak up water and keeps water from getting places you don’t want it.
If I may make a couple suggestions. Go to an RV dealer(preferably An Airstream dealer) and get ideas/insporation from their interior layouts. 2nd suggestion: layout a centerline lengthwise on your floor. By measuring every 4-5 feet. Then conecting the dots. This should make layouts,and measurements much easier.
Looks good, dude. Might be best to leave a little wiggle room for your plumbing though. The trailer will shift, roll and bounce around when you drive and you wont want those tight holes cutting into the lines while the trailer flexes. Keep up the good work!
awesome dont forget to drill holes on the boards under the mattress to make it breathe or it will sweat and form mold
I'm most of the way through my Sprinter van conversion. I spent plenty of time just staring at the inside trying to figure out what I would build. As for scribing and templating... I felt this in my soul. Nothing is square, straight, plumb, etc. The whole build process is an exercise in patience and creativity. I can't wait to see what you do next!
When I was your son’s age I would always hang out in my father’s shop. He would give me scrap pieces of wood to nail together. When I was a little older he started taking me out on jobs to help him out. Actually working for him wasn’t much fun. He was a hard ass but he taught me a lot.
For a guy who doesn't know what he's doing you are doing a great job, Jason. The family will have many happy times together in the Airstream. Now you need a period car to tow it.
Love old fashion "Squinting your eyes" safety glasses! @13:35 I catch my self using them as well when I lose my 10 pairs around the shop.
Thanks! I often get stymied when I don’t know what to do, or have it all figured out. So it is encouraging to see you just get started and figure it out as you go! Blessings!
Love most all of your videos/projects. As a vehicle mechanic, you have your sides labeled backwards. The left is the driver side, regardless of direction you are looking. As long as you can keep them straight, keep up the amazing work.
I must say you did an amazing job on your fits and a bunch of work in just 30 minutes 😅
It doesn't matter if it's perfect, it only matters if it's what you want ! 👍
Great job Jason. I built a restaurant kitchen in an airstream.. level as u did , scribed every panel to oblivion, template with 1/4 luan .. it had a bathroom, kitchen cabinets, multiple storage, a door .. very satisfying project.. I had never done before . Learned a lot about patients.. good luck with ur project Jason.
you might want to make the drawer into a step to get into the bed -- maybe a lift-up lid and rollers on the bottom to support it ?? don't let yourself get over whelmed just take your time it will be wonderful !!
A lot of campers/trailers use an inverted U channel to cover the lines so they won't be nicked, that way you don't lose that 1/2"-1" of storage height.
Just please remember to leave some access to the waterline and other lines. I went to Alaska and did not do a great job on wrapping the lines and had to rip most out to fix so just remember to protect and have access too them
I worked for a boat builder and he showed me a trick that uses a paint stick.
On one end cut a sharp point (flat side), and then make a bird mouth about half way down the stick.
Get your cardboard close, and then use the paint stick jig to mark from the wall to the bird mouth.
Do this about 10 or 12 times and then you can draw a line from point to point.
This will get you close enough to scribe the cardboard.
This is hard to explain in words, but I am sure you can figure it out.
I think people have been doing this for thousands of years.
And you should only have to cut the cardboard a couple of times.
And then there is the angle of the wall :(
see the video on UA-cam 'Ticking Stick (added 5/31/2023)
Great start! I'm envious of your choice to start with a clean slate. Been budget renovating our '66 Overlander bit by bit for 10 years. You'll be glad you did it this way.
Scribe using a compass divider with pencil. Set to the widest gap and trace a line. Perfect fit every time. Old cabinetmakers trick.
For templating and measuring take a leaf from boat building. Mark a centre line down the RV to reference from and, rather than cardboard templates use door skins, hot glue and joggle sticks
After a year in, and having done both screws and rivets, I highly recommend investing in a rivet gun for anything being attached to the skins. It’s worth it. You’ll love it and they hold way better than screws. You’ll use both.
Look at how boat builders template, because the inside of a boat is a bit the same as the inside of a RV like this, just upside down.
A method that would work is cutting a shape from cardboard/cheap wood that is fairly similar and hot-glueing tabs every 2 or 3 inches depending on the curve that touch the wall, you can lay this template on the wood and connect the dots, put some nails on the dots, spring a small piece of wood alongside the nails and draw your line to connect the dots.
1:57 THIS IS ONE OF MY DREAM BUILDS
Amazing how the lack of a plan looks just like there was a plan! You are doing great, and the new trend is plickle ball. Looks great!
Honestly this is great. For a person that just does wood working this looks great. I am a little surprised you didn't try a coffin type bed set up for access for storage but hey this looks great. Can't wait to see the next project
This is a fantastic project for you. Get the air conditioning hooked up as you'll need it during your build. I've got a hinged upper entry panel above my under bed storage which allows me to store plastic totes with the necessary tools for RV travelling and extra cooking pots. It has pistons to allow it to hold the mattress up while opened. I also ran extra AC power strips to allow for a charging station and mechanical power which I found was necessary for long camping trips. I've never needed the furnace function as an electric space heater does the job but I do like an electric/propane hot water heater. Same for the dual energy source fridge. That way I can use powered and unpowered camping spaces. Remember to keep your 120VAC and 12VDC lines separate as you'll be AC-less if dry camping unless you bring a generator with you.
You can still go to an electric only(compressor) refrigerator, and you would no longer need the roof vent. If you plan to boondock, the propane may work better for you, there are trade-offs to both.
I removed my propane and modified the cabinet in my Airstream to fit a Dometic DMC4101 just 2 weeks ago and realized almost all the people I saw discussing swapping to electric only were missing an important difference in how the compressor fridge flows air that is very different from the propane fridge.
Propane requires a channel to flow air past the elements, the temperature differential allows the cooling to happen in the fridge, so the hotter the outside air, the less efficient it cools. This means the back of the fridge is “outside” in that it has to be open to outdoor air, and sealed from the front/indoor air.
The compressor fridge I got doesn’t make anywhere near as much heat so could be inside only, but if it is sealed around the front like the propane fridge was, it would lose the intended air flow path designed by dometic in which it pulls air from the bottom front of the fridge and it flows out the lower back of the fridge. Sealing the front could cause it to build heat and cool poorly.
Anyway, just wanted to say that it’s not too late to change your mind on the refrigerator! Feel free to contact me back if you’d like more information on the refrigerators, though I’m far from an “expert”!
Hi Jason. I'm a big fan of your work. :-)
Regarding cables and water lines, here's an experience I had when furnishing a sailboat (which is almost the same as an RV, just without the wheels):
I always ran the cables and water lines through a larger pipe before I built it in. That way, they were better protected against movement during the trip, and it was easy to replace them if I needed to. I also made sure to always put in an extra pull cord inside the pipe, just in case I needed to pull som extra cables sometime in the future (you almost always need that at some point...) The opening for the pipe was accessible from the cabinet with all the fuses.
A little light inside the storage rooms is also a big plus when you're looking for something at night.
I look forward to see the continuation of this project. :-)
This is a really cool project. Really appreciate your videos, but this project is perfect for your skill set. Your lack of experience in RV-building makes this project more interesting than usual, because you have all the skills to solve the problems and you explain you thought process. Best luck!!
Nothing like a little CAD to get you past some curved walls. "Cardboard Aided Design"
I would check that bend in the hot pex line above the wheel well. It should be a curve, not an angle like bend.. this will cause problems with water pressure.
Hang in there, Jason, you’re doing an amazing job!
hugging your sleepy kid is the best.
You might want to add holes to the plywood under the bed for air flow and to prevent mattress mold
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Love your videos, Also not an RVer but have a little knowlege in tight spaces & condensation, If you haven't already have it planned out.. may I suggest you give your mattress area some room to breathe so you don't get condensation under the mattress, (basically poke a bunch of holes so the air can flow)... if anything look into it, you don't want mold.
Snap a centre line down the length of the van and work out from that. I found that helpful when I was doing the interior of camper.
That is going to be one well built camper! One suggestion would be to consider putting a piano himge at the horizontal seam in the middle of the bed so you can lift that lower panel to access storage. I realize you can build drawers very well, but bouncing down the road tends to be very hard on them, especially ones that are furniture grade.
When I still had my woodworking business, I bid for and got the job of transforming a full size school bus into a tiny home... actually it was a bus already transformed into a tiny home, so I had to remove all of the internals, I cut the back of the bus off and raised the roof 3ft. Sometimes the best experiences are those that you jump in, and roll with it. As always Jason, a great video and I'm excited to watch more.
Great video-
Genius outsourcing everything but interior. To many get great interiors but only weekend warior work on electrical, frame, body etc.
Your finishing a house. Except everything has to be made, made custom, in tight qtrs, and tools won’t fit in house, materials won’t fit inside house, needs to be light weight, and on and on.
Brave soul Bourbon Moth!! Just starting from scratch with no idea how or what you want would intimidate the heck out of me. No going back once you start and sometimes things don’t reveal themselves until you’re half way into it. Good luck bud!
You have really been polishing that exterior. Shiny!
The small amount of remodel Ive done on my popup camper has taught me that it was out together with 1x2's and paneling. The counter tops are MDF and the bunk ends are 5/8's plywood. The exterior is 0.04 sheet aluminum glued to paneling sheets. A tour of Palm Harbor homes production line might help.
And just like that, you are on your way! Enjoyed the video Jason. Looking forward to next week. Looks great.
The hand held CNC type router is slick. I have never seen anything like that before.
Looks awesome! One thing that cursed all RV owners is how susceptible they are to water damage. Have you thought about taking any steps to make it more water resistant?
The main body has just come back from a rebuild at a pro Airstream workshop, so I would be very surprised if it leaks any water in at all.
@@terryhayward7905 I’m more concerned about the people and gear inside the camper. Wet shoes, chairs, spilled drinks, etc.
Do NOT abandon your scribing obsession. I finished an MCM kitchen last year without using one piece of trim. It's perfect. Some mornings I just drink coffee and stare at it.
Very Nice!. BTW What you did there with tracing the profile of the wall onto the timber is actually call 'spiling'.
What you're doing here is actually called 'mansplaining'
hmmm definitely might have hinged that bed, perhaps so you can access the outside pockets, without going out in the cold or so you can access the draw (or that hole on the left) or all 3.
Also, lighting in your cubbies from the outside.have it come on when you open the door, it'll be so appreciated later.
I like the music in the end. Epic, like this build!
Smart move to leave access to the water heater! It's going to help when it needs to be winterized!
Some people have suggested cutting holes in the ply for air movement. I'm not sure why but I think I would go with putting slats on top of the plywood to boost the bed up. My bed just has 2*4's as slats.
Also I think you should not build your storage all the up to the mattress. That would make changing the sheets a right pain in the arse.
Great Video Jason - Always entertaining. I saw that when you were cutting the front panel, you notched out the corners for the water pipes with the jigsaw, upside-down. Im assuming that this was so the clean side of the cut was on the visible side?? If so - you can get jigsaw blades that cut on the down-stroke, so the clean cut is on top... Game Changer for anyone out there sick of this issue..
I Australia we build the bed on a lift up base, one board for the whole bed, hinged at the back wall end and we use gas struts to aid the lift from the front, works great, google Australian made Caravans and see how we do things, you get to use the whole area for storage.
You should go to some RV show rooms and look at what’s out there to get some inspiration. I would imagine that there’s got to be at least one somewhere near you.
This really makes me want to get started on my homemade built in camper topper for my truck.
Take this hint from a gal who went from a 2000 sq ft home to a 728 sq ft condo. You need all the storage space you can find. I have 3 closet spaces, 1 is laundry and hot water tank, 1 is entry closet. The under the bed option that lifts on hinges would probably be a good idea. Also lighting tacky strips under your storage lids might be a good idea. The trees reflecting on your bourbon trailer were like a transfer! Beautiful
Thanks for the video
Maybe I’ve missed your plans for the mattress, maybe I haven’t? Either way, you’re going to want more venting under the mattress. Mold will grow VERY quickly once you start sleeping in that rig. Even if it’s just a build to have sitting in the yard or at a rv park, cut more holes or add a riser of some sort under the mattress. 🙂🤙🏼✌🏼
Glad to see I'm not the only one that does "the project stare"!
You may also want to carpet the walls of the back storage compartment as well, extra insulation plus sound deadening
Shocks on the bed to raise up to access under bed storage. Comes in very handy when packing out to travel etc. Use every spot available you end up using it trust me.
Lol 8:00 is totally legit. This is exactly what I look like when trying to figure out tricky cabinet builds
We’ve been there 😂😂😂😂
This is going to be an epic interior ! And yes, it's good to have supervision that sneaks up behind you to check out progress !!!
🛏🔩🔧 Interesting suggestion! Adding hinges and small shocks to the center ply under the bed for dual access storage sounds like a clever idea. 🤔 However, let's dive deeper into the practicality and potential drawbacks of this modification. 🚐⚖ How might it impact structural integrity or weight distribution? Let's explore alternative storage solutions and find the perfect balance between convenience and functionality. 📦💡
It really seems like creating a rough layout for the entire trailer in SketchUp (or even on paper) would
have made things easier. Plan your work then work your plan!
Don't forget the little amenities like lights, toilets, sinks, ovens, and cooktops.