Lego went too hard on the base plate, and lacked with the details on the actual meditation chamber in my opinion. I feel they really wanted to boost up that piece count/ridiculous price, but nonetheless the sticker in the set is really nice though
I’m worried for this set. I think the concept is great, and I hope LEGO does more 18+ display scenes (I think there are endless ideas which could be done for this series). However, LEGO has a history of making a crappy version of a product, and, instead of working to improve it, canceling the line altogether (see may the 4th figures). I’m worried the price will harm sales enough to cancel these sets
For me it isn't the price but the execution of the set but if Lego is smart enough, they'll wait it out and release other sets like this first and see what their sales count is
True! For me it feels more like a 30 or 40$ set because of how less real „material“ is on there. Most of the parts go into the black stands and this isnt really adding value in my opinion. Also the fact that there are this less figures it makes it more a 30$ set. As I am saying price per piece is irrelevant if the set doesnt give you enough for such a price
A dual molded Imperial Officer isn't even in the same league of desirability as a Phase 2 Cody. Literally nobody feels forced to buy the UCS Star Destroyer to get an Imperial Officer, but many WOULD feel forced to buy a UCS Gunship if Cody was exclusive to it
They could have added similar functionality like they did in set 75183 (Darth Vader Transformation). It wouldn’t even need to “work”, but it would be a place to hold the helmet.
You are the most fair person on the entire internet. I appreciate the 360 degree perspective, based on real facts about the sets. Good when its good, points it out when its not, straight fairness. A lost part of doing things right. Keep it up and wish others in the reporting/reviewing industries did the same.
Still don’t see the worth for it being $70. The Bespin Duel was $40, had the same Vader and a more desirable figure with Bespin Luke. Bespin Duel was more of a display piece as well. I don’t see the $30 more worth in this. A pass for me. Bespin Duel was more worth it and yes I have it.
@@repticare101 well can look at it that way but then if it wasn’t wide released then why was it not more than this set that is with less desirable figures?
Agreed. If they really couldn't avoid having the crane stick up so prominently, they could have at least put a nicely designed wall immediately behind it as a backdrop. I know that would remove the "360°" nature of the set, but as it stands who's really looking at this thing from the back anyway? The crane obscures it and is just an eyesore.
@@yoursleepparalysisdemon3475 There is something wrong with these new sets. Even the new Gunship, not to minifigs scale, without pilots and gunners ...you can't look at it, looks like a ghost ship! It's just big and that's it.
Might be picking this one up. Love the minifigs and the attention to detail. Because it’s made out of Lego, I don’t mind the gaps all that much. Costs $100 in Norway, though.
I'm glad I was able to order this, and I realize there are limitations to what can be done at the scale, but can't help thinking that they could have done a little more to close the gaps in the chamber shell. It also wouldn't been cool to have the option of removing the display screen and replacing it with a Palpatine hologram.
i did a MOC of this scene when i was like 10 and no one thought about making this at that time, also made a mini atat and a double pump and night vision glasses and same for that
This really looks like a set that had been made as a regional exclusive for SDCC and that, after the utter fiasco of last year's general release, LEGO decided to turn into a normal set. Good. Because I really like it. The only thing that would be nice, to me, would be to have an easier way to make Vader turn in his chair, instead of having to stick our fingers in there. If that could be coordinated with the top opening, that'd have been just perfect.
Bought this set about 3 1/2 months ago, and I was very satisfied. Watching this now, I realized General Veers was SUPPOSED to get a blaster, but didn't (in mine). Thank you!!
I realllly want to see a mini Diorama where r2d2 is first introduced in episode 1 getting sucked out to space with the other astromechs and then jar jar in the room
Reviewing the sequence I don't think Vader is wearing his cape in the chair. Means having back and arm printing more important. Also when displaying no cape prevents it being creased.
the one flaw I have with this set is the three circular injection marks that exist on the back/under side of the black panels. they appear (see through) on the front side of the rectangular black panel parts that are used on the base and chamber. This particular part is used throughout the base and sides of the chamber. For a display piece I would expect the black panels to have a shiny solid color as pictured on the box.
I was going to get this on the Lego online store, but it's been out of stock for a while. I ended up buying it today through Walmart's black Friday sale for $50. Much better than what even the cheapest scalpers want on eBay.
Late to the show, but I totally agree with Ryan on this one. It is an fun build and amazing self piece. I held out till my local Walmart had it for 50 bucks, well worth that price tag
They could totally remake a jabba's prize set at this scale and level of detail with a Han Solo and Leia in Boush disguise minifigures - that would be my first choice.. The Mustufar Duel and Leia's detention cell would also probably look great.
The ONLY Lego Star wars set I'm buying this year( so far)... it's the perfect set for display which is basically the only reason why I'm still getting Lego sets as I get older ..I can order the boot legs on brick link and call it a day..👌
I like it. I do think they put too many parts into the base which causes the high price of the set though. I'd rather see the parts put into the actual chamber. The lifting mechanism is clunky.
I think that people dont realise that your reviews are made with bright light shining directly at lego so those inside colors same as with ucs imperial star destroyer will show much more then with natural light.
Lego "only the best is good enough." Also Lego - Leaves out 7 pieces to make the perfect set. Blaster clip, dual-molded legs, soft cape, and for gray droid arms to hold Vader's helmet.
@Lego Lad UK Endor Bunker should be for 2023, since in 2023 it's the 40th anniversary of Return Of The Jedi. Or do MBS sets only come every second year? 'Cause then it should come in 2024, since imo Geonosis fits so much better for 2022.
Personally I'm really disappointed by this set. It's such a cool concept, but Lego really failed in the execution IMO. The gaps in the chamber and the giant ugly crane on top are what ruin this one for me.
@@samusaran4799 not central, on two sides. How ti change position of the dome, by removing them. This is display model, not playset. We don't need playfeatures...
I just hope that LEGO learned their lesson from deleting the arm printing from Darth Vader in the Imperial Shuttle set and will now have him with arm printing from here on out.
I'm not sure about other people, however I would've really loved it if the chamber would be able to softly close. That and no/less gaps once closed. Not a buy for me personally, but would definitely be more interested if a future model fixes those issues.
Ryan if you want to make a video comparison of Lego star wars summer sets I have a good idea. Imperial Armored Marauder vs Imperial Hovertank Duel on Mandalore vs every 20 dollar duel sets from star wars Mandalorian Starfighter vs old Mandalorian Starfighter boba fett starship vs Slave 1 from cloud city master builder set Moff Gideon Light Cruiser vs 2014 Imperial Star Destroyer
The newer Darth Vader helmet mold looks absolutely terrible. The front of the face looks bloated, the eyes are too big, and the top helmet part is tilted back. How did Lego fail that bad?
@@callumpears1523 Yeah, I especially don't understand the stormtrooper. The previous stormtrooper helmet was almost perfectly accurate, then they changed it into the abomination it is now.
What other Star Wars scenes don’t you want created in 18+ form like this?
Jedi temple
The Mandalorian Armourer's room would be great.
height ground
The slaughter of the younglings
You mean do you want?
Everyone be very grateful that LEGO was kind enough to put the imperial logo on the box.
Burn
@@GamingClipStudios just like Vader
@@monkedecides9916 i did not like this comment
@@anakinskywalker3081 woah man no need to get so hot headed. It’s just a comment
@@-Taxi- WHY
I am really hoping they will do a Carbon freezing chamber for the Empire Strikes Back or Maybe even a Jedi council
The freezing chamber would definitely translate well
You said something there! A Jedi council would be a dream to get as an 18+ set!
They did, set 75137 looked really good.
@@justinfain1752 i mean in the 18+ style
Yes
They should've added the Palpatine hologram on the other side opposing the screen. That would make it worth the $70.00
Not really, take away the base and it’s worth about 40 quid
@@shittttttt8016 3*
@@ollie6148 3 pounds?
It's 100 where I live
@@shittttttt8016 the base is worth $30.00?
My two flaws with it is how gappy it is when fully closed and it’s price...
I honestly don’t think this one translated very well into LEGO form with the large gaps in between pieces. It’s a good concept though.
Completely agree
If I get it I am definitely going to mod it
Lego went too hard on the base plate, and lacked with the details on the actual meditation chamber in my opinion. I feel they really wanted to boost up that piece count/ridiculous price, but nonetheless the sticker in the set is really nice though
For that price, it should've had printed pieces instead of stickers.
Especially with how difficult the round stickers are to get on
I’m worried for this set. I think the concept is great, and I hope LEGO does more 18+ display scenes (I think there are endless ideas which could be done for this series). However, LEGO has a history of making a crappy version of a product, and, instead of working to improve it, canceling the line altogether (see may the 4th figures). I’m worried the price will harm sales enough to cancel these sets
But hey, they used a ton of new molds on Vidiyo, which is apparently cancelled now.
For me it isn't the price but the execution of the set but if Lego is smart enough, they'll wait it out and release other sets like this first and see what their sales count is
this aged surprisingly well 🤣 we’ve got a bunch of very good diorama sets now
I really want to see more of these kinds of 18+ display vignette-type sets, except less overpriced
Took a little while but I finally found a comment saying it’s overpriced
@@peachdevils3893 well, it IS overpriced
True!
For me it feels more like a 30 or 40$ set because of how less real „material“ is on there. Most of the parts go into the black stands and this isnt really adding value in my opinion. Also the fact that there are this less figures it makes it more a 30$ set. As I am saying price per piece is irrelevant if the set doesnt give you enough for such a price
yeesh, I just bought it today and I'm perfectly happy with it, it's not overpriced, it's just fine.
Lego: "we don't want exclusive figs to be behind a paywall."
Also Lego: *puts dual molded imperial officer in $700 set only*
Inconsistency we do not like, yes
But it’s not very desirable.
The grey and black legs are also on other sets too, I think there's one in the daily bugle.
A dual molded Imperial Officer isn't even in the same league of desirability as a Phase 2 Cody. Literally nobody feels forced to buy the UCS Star Destroyer to get an Imperial Officer, but many WOULD feel forced to buy a UCS Gunship if Cody was exclusive to it
They deadass know damn well
I'd love go see a Jedi High Council done in this 18+ line
Such a good idea, we’d have to get some good Jedi figs tho
@@fishthekidd8287 Jedi Bob
There's 12 seats but I don't say they would give us that many awesome jedi characters in 1 set
@@massivelegend6610 I agree they’d most likely scatter them around other sets as an incentive to buy them.
@@drhenrywaltonjonesjr tbf, most people will have Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Yoda.
They could have added similar functionality like they did in set 75183 (Darth Vader Transformation). It wouldn’t even need to “work”, but it would be a place to hold the helmet.
You are the most fair person on the entire internet. I appreciate the 360 degree perspective, based on real facts about the sets. Good when its good, points it out when its not, straight fairness. A lost part of doing things right. Keep it up and wish others in the reporting/reviewing industries did the same.
Still don’t see the worth for it being $70. The Bespin Duel was $40, had the same Vader and a more desirable figure with Bespin Luke. Bespin Duel was more of a display piece as well. I don’t see the $30 more worth in this. A pass for me. Bespin Duel was more worth it and yes I have it.
@@repticare101 well can look at it that way but then if it wasn’t wide released then why was it not more than this set that is with less desirable figures?
The idea is nice, but the realization is a bit sad ... The frame to lift the dome is too simple and visible.
🤔🙋🏻♂️
Agreed. If they really couldn't avoid having the crane stick up so prominently, they could have at least put a nicely designed wall immediately behind it as a backdrop. I know that would remove the "360°" nature of the set, but as it stands who's really looking at this thing from the back anyway? The crane obscures it and is just an eyesore.
What is the point of making it more complicated if simple works
@@yoursleepparalysisdemon3475 It's not a problem of operation, "simple" in aesthetic sense ...
@@andrealovato3331 well this is a fairly new style of set so maybe they wanted to stay at minimal pieces for price I get what you mean tho
@@yoursleepparalysisdemon3475 There is something wrong with these new sets. Even the new Gunship, not to minifigs scale, without pilots and gunners ...you can't look at it, looks like a ghost ship!
It's just big and that's it.
Might be picking this one up. Love the minifigs and the attention to detail. Because it’s made out of Lego, I don’t mind the gaps all that much. Costs $100 in Norway, though.
Yeah, it’s overpriced
@@endeavor4178 *sad viking noises*
With the Vader head tho 😰🤤🤤🤤
Just checked, poor me. It actually costs 100 dollars. Holy. Now I’m unsure if I’ll buy it. Either way, corrected it in the comment.
Ja ikke sant. Det er det med alle de andre settene også, synd for oss i Norge😒
Always thought this scene was really funny in the sense that he just fucking kills admiral ozzle
Man, now I really want a Sith Throne in this form.....
Long have I waited
My little lego friend.
At 7:46, I would also be dissapointed with the assult on Hoth as it only contained 2 snowtroopers.
I'm glad I was able to order this, and I realize there are limitations to what can be done at the scale, but can't help thinking that they could have done a little more to close the gaps in the chamber shell.
It also wouldn't been cool to have the option of removing the display screen and replacing it with a Palpatine hologram.
I can tell that this is a really good LEGO set, impressive review from what I can tell. I hope they make an 18+ Old Republic sets.
The way to hide away General Veer's pistol is to attach it to vader's saber. Stores both weapons well imo 👀
i did a MOC of this scene when i was like 10 and no one thought about making this at that time, also made a mini atat and a double pump and night vision glasses and same for that
This really looks like a set that had been made as a regional exclusive for SDCC and that, after the utter fiasco of last year's general release, LEGO decided to turn into a normal set.
Good.
Because I really like it. The only thing that would be nice, to me, would be to have an easier way to make Vader turn in his chair, instead of having to stick our fingers in there. If that could be coordinated with the top opening, that'd have been just perfect.
We better get more sets like this, this is a lot like the Bespin Duel which I love!
Bought this set about 3 1/2 months ago, and I was very satisfied. Watching this now, I realized General Veers was SUPPOSED to get a blaster, but didn't (in mine). Thank you!!
Thank you for your vids they help a lot
They really do!
Fr he goes so in depth
“With the correct imperial logo” 😂😂
I would pay 40 bucks for this, not 70
Same
I will get black friday 2021.
Surprised it wasn’t called “Darth Vader’s relaxing room”.
The detail is perfect. That's why ima say, "It's to die for."
"Taller" does not equal "bigger." There's a lot of empty space in this build compared to those cheaper sets; a better comparison would be weight.
I realllly want to see a mini Diorama where r2d2 is first introduced in episode 1 getting sucked out to space with the other astromechs and then jar jar in the room
You know what i would really like to see? An 18+ star destroyer bridge with an updated, admiral Piett
I’m super stoked for this set. I’ve been building my own little scenes like this for a while
Reviewing the sequence I don't think Vader is wearing his cape in the chair. Means having back and arm printing more important. Also when displaying no cape prevents it being creased.
You're totally right, Vader is not wearing his cape.
The price is the only thing I don’t like but besides that it’s perfect
I agree with the dual molded legs
The forgotten LEGO Star Wars Summer 2021 Set is actually decent!
I want this to display my chrome vader !
Great model, even better concept. I really hope we see more sets like this
Finally your not bashing a set the entire review (just playing I know that’s the purpose of a review;)
ARE YOU LIVING IN THE FUTURE?! How do you get these early When you’re out of LAN.
Walmart is actually selling this right now.
@@JaviKing01 Thank you!
Isn't that Admiral Piett? That's what the manual says.
Loved the meditation chamber. I wish I got all the latest sets so I could post them on my lego star wars channel
the one flaw I have with this set is the three circular injection marks that exist on the back/under side of the black panels. they appear (see through) on the front side of the rectangular black panel parts that are used on the base and chamber. This particular part is used throughout the base and sides of the chamber. For a display piece I would expect the black panels to have a shiny solid color as pictured on the box.
I’m really digging this set and all my fave parts about you mention ! - great review and great set Ryan
I like how Ryan cuts himself off while talking
I think 70 dollars is a bit to much for 2 figures. It’s not overpriced but it could be 50 dollar and that would be fair in my opinion.
Problem is with a piece count of about 660, 70$ is a fair price.
@@williamblazo1871 most of that is in the stand. Feels a bit lacking.
@@williamblazo1871 True but the minifigures, only 2? But yeah it isn’t a play set but still, we could use one more the price and it’s just a stand.
@@williamblazo1871 The piece count is there, but volume of stuff you're getting is horrible.
I was going to get this on the Lego online store, but it's been out of stock for a while. I ended up buying it today through Walmart's black Friday sale for $50. Much better than what even the cheapest scalpers want on eBay.
We need some Lego Set based on the 2003 Starwars Micro series. Obiwan vs Durge battle set would be awesome.
definitely hoping we get more of these smaller black box 18+ sets.
Late to the show, but I totally agree with Ryan on this one. It is an fun build and amazing self piece. I held out till my local Walmart had it for 50 bucks, well worth that price tag
Even the tiny meditation chamber in the 2006 star destroyer had a working crane for his helmet
this video actually made me want this more now
My local walmart released them by accident and I don’t know but having it in front of you in person makes it well worth the price
Now it's time for someone to build a massive Vader's Castle moc using this set in it.
Built this set (after I got it on sale for $50) while watching my hometown team (go Pats!). It's my first 18+ set and it does not disappoint!
Only issue is the price point. It’s a $50 set. Sorry.
Thanks for this video. I’m probably going to pick one of these up off of eBay soon.
Wow perfect birthday day gift for myself together with the gunship 😎
Just bought it yesterday with the Infinity gauntlet! Cant wait to receive both of them!
this is in my top 5 favourite 2021 sets
there isnt much good selcetion to compare it to lol
even the meditation chamber in the 2014(?) star-destroyer got an arm to drop down his helmet.
They could totally remake a jabba's prize set at this scale and level of detail with a Han Solo and Leia in Boush disguise minifigures - that would be my first choice.. The Mustufar Duel and Leia's detention cell would also probably look great.
The ONLY Lego Star wars set I'm buying this year( so far)... it's the perfect set for display which is basically the only reason why I'm still getting Lego sets as I get older ..I can order the boot legs on brick link and call it a day..👌
This set will be a nice addition to my collection) Hello from Russia, I wish this set will also be selling here.
I like it. I do think they put too many parts into the base which causes the high price of the set though. I'd rather see the parts put into the actual chamber. The lifting mechanism is clunky.
Yeah when he was saying it was bigger than the Marauder/Slave 1 half of that was the stand.
6.15 if you put some droid arms on it in grey it could hold his helmet
I think that people dont realise that your reviews are made with bright light shining directly at lego so those inside colors same as with ucs imperial star destroyer will show much more then with natural light.
Its sad that in Sweden (where I live) it doesn’t cost 70 dollars but 899kr which is about 100 dollars
Lego "only the best is good enough."
Also Lego - Leaves out 7 pieces to make the perfect set. Blaster clip, dual-molded legs, soft cape, and for gray droid arms to hold Vader's helmet.
I think they separate the over 18+ sets with the summer waves which is why we're left with random set numbers missing.
$70 when half the set is the stand? I’ll pass
Have you tried the Republic bricks v2 gunship
I'll probably gonna pick this one up and also have the display case of WickedBrick with it so I can display it at my shop.
We need geonosis arena set… just sayin
@Lego Lad UK Endor Bunker should be for 2023, since in 2023 it's the 40th anniversary of Return Of The Jedi. Or do MBS sets only come every second year? 'Cause then it should come in 2024, since imo Geonosis fits so much better for 2022.
Just got it now looking forward to building it
It looks absolutely stunning
Personally I'm really disappointed by this set. It's such a cool concept, but Lego really failed in the execution IMO. The gaps in the chamber and the giant ugly crane on top are what ruin this one for me.
How would you do it without the crane tho
I don’t like the gaps to but they can’t do anything about the crane.
They could use other principles. Clear stand inside? From 1x1 cilidenders, or something like that
@@BossBast1 then where is vader supposed to sit if there’s a central column? And how would it open/close
@@samusaran4799 not central, on two sides. How ti change position of the dome, by removing them. This is display model, not playset. We don't need playfeatures...
I just hope that LEGO learned their lesson from deleting the arm printing from Darth Vader in the Imperial Shuttle set and will now have him with arm printing from here on out.
I kinda wish that admiral piete was in this set
You should take the cape off. he doesn't wear it in the chamber.
The sweating admiral I believe was actually working with the rebels... I don't think Vader knew that tho... he was just disappointed
I'm not sure about other people, however I would've really loved it if the chamber would be able to softly close.
That and no/less gaps once closed.
Not a buy for me personally, but would definitely be more interested if a future model fixes those issues.
Ryan if you want to make a video comparison of Lego star wars summer sets I have a good idea.
Imperial Armored Marauder vs Imperial Hovertank
Duel on Mandalore vs every 20 dollar duel sets from star wars
Mandalorian Starfighter vs old Mandalorian Starfighter
boba fett starship vs Slave 1 from cloud city master builder set
Moff Gideon Light Cruiser vs 2014 Imperial Star Destroyer
Got mine not long after it released...awesome set
They should do the Jedi council chamber like this
Finally Veers without a microphone = DONOVAN
great potential for these types of sets there are (ex. Bespin Duel)
Excellent overview!
The newer Darth Vader helmet mold looks absolutely terrible. The front of the face looks bloated, the eyes are too big, and the top helmet part is tilted back. How did Lego fail that bad?
Everyone seems to love it, but it looks odd and too tilted back. I think it’s cool but can’t help but like the older helm.
Yeah I don't like it. Not quite as bad as the new stormtrooper, though.
@@callumpears1523 Yeah, I especially don't understand the stormtrooper. The previous stormtrooper helmet was almost perfectly accurate, then they changed it into the abomination it is now.
Man, I can hear it right now:
"What is it general?"
0:21 with the correct imperial logo
LOL
I wish they printed his arms in the shuttle from earlier this year.
Dear lego. Please make more prequel and clone wars sets. Also a ucs venator with admiral Yularen...
"The corect imperial logo" ouch
honestly, the spaces in between the part trigger me a way i didn’t think was possible
That guy isn’t General Veers, that is Admiral Piett