too bad you don't load up videos anymore. If I type in virge 3d to the search bar, it is still your videos appear on the top. These comparisons are great.
The S3D version is from a special OEM disc that was released with Hewlett Packard machines back in the days. No patch was ever released online. I hope to maybe create my own patch based on my OEM disc and release it.
Hi! I have an S3D machine and I'm trying to track down as many games as I can for it. I cannot for the life of me find this HP OEM disc online anywhere. I appreciate this is an old video but would it be possible to image and upload to archive.org for preservation purposes? Thanks 🙂
At the time I had a 100MHz Pentium and there is no way that it would run the game in 640x480 without seriously disabling graphics options. Basically you would have had to disable textures to make it run. 320x200 (or was it 320x240) ran pretty well... but with a 3dfx card it would have been so much better! I eventually did get a 3dfx rush card but that did not work with this game... neither did voodoo 2 which I got a bit later. Then 200MHz pentium MMX would not run this game in software 640x480
Thanks! It is pretty clear that this game was designed for software mode and that the 3D versions were more an afterthought. If you have the CPU horsepower to run this smoothly in SVGA that is a good option :)
What program do you mean? I use one piece of hardware and two programs to make the episodes. The footage is captured on an Avermedia Gamebroadcaster HD card through VLC. Editing is done with Sony Vegas Pro.
The 3D accelerators I use are the real ones, no emulators, wrappers or anything other is used. I use two computers to capture footage. One with the 3D accelerator running the game, and another computer with the GameBroadcaster HD to capture the VGA signal. Hope I answered your question.
yes! i have the game and the original disc, i can play it on my old PC or with DOSbox, man this game never gets boring... i miss games like that today u.u
Yup, same here. :) I mailed them a few years ago, to ask for Fatal Racing 2, but never got any reply. Sumo Digital which makes upcoming Little big Planet 3, also made Forza Horizon 2 on 360, Sonic All Star Racing Transformed, GTI Club+ on PS3 and lots of other games. They have made many racing games in recent time, but Fatal Racing 2/Whiplash 2. :( Gremlin Graphics, Gremlin Interactive and Sumo Digital is the same company. One of the few Amiga companies left.
+Ventilatingyes me too me and my friend played thsi damn game until 6am.. it was addcitive.. i recently played it.. even though i should be bored of it.. you just 'KEEP GOING".. this game needs a remake
If you want to play Whiplash, the easiest way to do it on a modern machine is to download DOSBox and then get the game. Unfortunately 3DFX or any other accelerated version won't work unless you have the hardware and an older computer to run it (all can be bought on Ebay though).
Had this game with my Orchid Righteous 3D back in the late 90's. Loved it. Always had a strange graphical problem though, the 3DFX version squashed the screen into a letterbox format, leaving a pretty large black bar at the bottom of the screen (Even with my old CRT). I tried it recently with a different Orchid card and a modern monitor and it did the same thing.
What have you done to get it running with a Voodoo 2? I never got it running with another card than Voodoo Graphics, even my Hiscore with 6MB doesn't work with it.
No, the Voodoo 2 works in DOS too. However it was more used in windows than the voodoo 1 did (even though there's plenty of windows games using voodoo 1). Maybe the game can run with some SET commands ?
Initialization Variables - you can init a Voodoo2 to operate as a Voodoo 1 - I also have the Canopus Pure 3d w/6 MB and it runs without this. Plus, your CPU has to be operating at 100 MHz FSB.
This has to be one of the pickiest games out there. Is there even a way to get 3DFX in Dosbox for it ? Anyway great video and thank you for the amount of work you've put into making it.
Looking back at what you've tested, I hope someone eventually gets their hands on this game and a Creative GFX someday. I would hope it would, by the least bit, run more smoothly than software rather than just simply look the part.
And it was a bit later still when I got a K6/2 450MHz processor, which finally did run this game in good framerate in software 640x480. To this day I´ve still not experienced this game in accelerated 3d graphics.
Always played software till i lost the cd, then i ordered on Amazon to received the 3dfx ver which i didn't know about and didn't care about it after playing with it so found my old cd and back to software rendered ver yay
Might be sooner than you expect :) I've also got the game running on the 3D Blaster PCI. Search for "Fun with CGL (Creative Graphics Library) on 3D Blaster" on Vogons for a screenshot. Basically it doesn't look very different from software, but it does run more smoothly.
It is true that back in the days you would not be able to run in software 640x480. Here the 3D cards came in. I don't know which one is the fastest one in terms of frames per second on an old 100 or 133mhz pentium, as the comparison focus more on showing the graphical differences. You can make the game run on any Voodoo card if you use a batch file. That's how I did on my Voodoo 2 SLI cards :)
Thanks for a very interesting comparison. I've only ever played in software mode, but it's really not that bad (better than with 3dfx anyway, by the looks of it).
I wish games today had different versions optimized for whatever hardware you have... Too bad that is unlikely as it would take forever to actually implement.
too bad you don't load up videos anymore. If I type in virge 3d to the search bar, it is still your videos appear on the top. These comparisons are great.
The S3D version is from a special OEM disc that was released with Hewlett Packard machines back in the days. No patch was ever released online. I hope to maybe create my own patch based on my OEM disc and release it.
Hi! I have an S3D machine and I'm trying to track down as many games as I can for it. I cannot for the life of me find this HP OEM disc online anywhere. I appreciate this is an old video but would it be possible to image and upload to archive.org for preservation purposes? Thanks 🙂
Nice montage, loved how you captured Creative 3D Blaster version. Adore its Unreal-esque texture filtering.
At the time I had a 100MHz Pentium and there is no way that it would run the game in 640x480 without seriously disabling graphics options. Basically you would have had to disable textures to make it run. 320x200 (or was it 320x240) ran pretty well... but with a 3dfx card it would have been so much better! I eventually did get a 3dfx rush card but that did not work with this game... neither did voodoo 2 which I got a bit later. Then 200MHz pentium MMX would not run this game in software 640x480
Thanks! It is pretty clear that this game was designed for software mode and that the 3D versions were more an afterthought. If you have the CPU horsepower to run this smoothly in SVGA that is a good option :)
What program do you mean? I use one piece of hardware and two programs to make the episodes. The footage is captured on an Avermedia Gamebroadcaster HD card through VLC. Editing is done with Sony Vegas Pro.
The 3D accelerators I use are the real ones, no emulators, wrappers or anything other is used. I use two computers to capture footage. One with the 3D accelerator running the game, and another computer with the GameBroadcaster HD to capture the VGA signal. Hope I answered your question.
Are you using do’s box for the software run
I was running this game on my 486 dx2-66. Got a single-digit fps which was really painfull.
yes! i have the game and the original disc, i can play it on my old PC or with DOSbox, man this game never gets boring... i miss games like that today u.u
I remember getting this game on day 1 of release and play it on 3DFX. :) It was awesome. It was in the first batch of 3DFX games.
Nice, so you were one of the first adopters? What manufacturer did you go for, Orchid or Diamond?
RetroCompaqGuy Orchid was my first one. My Voodoo 2 is also Orchid. ;)
lassi kinnunen : Yes, that was good times. Reading about upcoming patches.:) Games became like brand new again.
Yup, same here. :) I mailed them a few years ago, to ask for Fatal Racing 2, but never got any reply.
Sumo Digital which makes upcoming Little big Planet 3, also made Forza Horizon 2 on 360, Sonic All Star Racing Transformed, GTI Club+ on PS3 and lots of other games.
They have made many racing games in recent time, but Fatal Racing 2/Whiplash 2. :(
Gremlin Graphics, Gremlin Interactive and Sumo Digital is the same company. One of the few Amiga companies left.
+Ventilatingyes me too me and my friend played thsi damn game until 6am.. it was addcitive.. i recently played it.. even though i should be bored of it.. you just 'KEEP GOING".. this game needs a remake
When i was a kid i loved this game ! hours and hours playing: it's like Ridge Racer but with Steroids ! much more adrenaline !
Nice video, I never saw this game running accelerated. How do you enable SD3 version?, is a patch?, I could not find it...
If you want to play Whiplash, the easiest way to do it on a modern machine is to download DOSBox and then get the game. Unfortunately 3DFX or any other accelerated version won't work unless you have the hardware and an older computer to run it (all can be bought on Ebay though).
I loved this game... Good memories
The S3D version probably runs at 320x240 proper, but in double scan mode because 31 KHz is the minimum.
Had this game with my Orchid Righteous 3D back in the late 90's. Loved it. Always had a strange graphical problem though, the 3DFX version squashed the screen into a letterbox format, leaving a pretty large black bar at the bottom of the screen (Even with my old CRT). I tried it recently with a different Orchid card and a modern monitor and it did the same thing.
What have you done to get it running with a Voodoo 2?
I never got it running with another card than Voodoo Graphics, even my Hiscore with 6MB doesn't work with it.
+David Z. : I think it only works with Voodoo 1.
The game doesen't work with 3D in Windows, and Voodoo 2 works in Windows only i think.
No, the Voodoo 2 works in DOS too. However it was more used in windows than the voodoo 1 did (even though there's plenty of windows games using voodoo 1). Maybe the game can run with some SET commands ?
Initialization Variables - you can init a Voodoo2 to operate as a Voodoo 1 - I also have the Canopus Pure 3d w/6 MB and it runs without this. Plus, your CPU has to be operating at 100 MHz FSB.
I'll take the dos box graphics over the smooth ones anyday.
This has to be one of the pickiest games out there.
Is there even a way to get 3DFX in Dosbox for it ?
Anyway great video and thank you for the amount of work you've put into making it.
I'll share a secret - the bloody thing wont run on my real Voodoo 3. Only Voodoo 1 and not every make and model.
yes, use Dosbox ECE paired with DGvoodoo2
@@Bitterman5868 Thank you GOD, you deserve all the pussy my sir.
@@volocat also works on voodoo2
anyone know where i can download the 96 version to play on DOSbox? i have the original on CD but i mainly want it for the audio :D
Wish I never missed these features back in 1999... Ohhhhh.
Looking back at what you've tested, I hope someone eventually gets their hands on this game and a Creative GFX someday. I would hope it would, by the least bit, run more smoothly than software rather than just simply look the part.
And it was a bit later still when I got a K6/2 450MHz processor, which finally did run this game in good framerate in software 640x480. To this day I´ve still not experienced this game in accelerated 3d graphics.
Hey what is the intro music?
David Zachary Need it too
Always played software till i lost the cd, then i ordered on Amazon to received the 3dfx ver which i didn't know about and didn't care about it after playing with it so found my old cd and back to software rendered ver yay
i mean the 3D acelarator or... it is the hardware are you mean?
what you did here?! looks awesome! i want the program please D:
Might be sooner than you expect :) I've also got the game running on the 3D Blaster PCI. Search for "Fun with CGL (Creative Graphics Library) on 3D Blaster" on Vogons for a screenshot. Basically it doesn't look very different from software, but it does run more smoothly.
It is true that back in the days you would not be able to run in software 640x480. Here the 3D cards came in. I don't know which one is the fastest one in terms of frames per second on an old 100 or 133mhz pentium, as the comparison focus more on showing the graphical differences. You can make the game run on any Voodoo card if you use a batch file. That's how I did on my Voodoo 2 SLI cards :)
It ran okay with a p3 at 500mhz software but still nothing like the good old diamond monster 3d
Thanks for a very interesting comparison. I've only ever played in software mode, but it's really not that bad (better than with 3dfx anyway, by the looks of it).
3dfx was the god way to play. No slow down.
Tried playing 3DFX on dosbox with this game and the results are pretty bad, i ended up buying another copy of this game to get Software Rendering
PCEm has a better 3dfx emulation
Agree recenty been using that and a P3 pc with 3dfx 2@@ryonagana
Many 3Dfx games suffered from the bright, washed out colours, unfortunately.
But it was smooth
Software high-res is best tbh, but Rendition is not bad either. 3dfx looks too bland and S3 looks too low res.
3dfx was smoother. And when the diamond monster 3d came out this was the best way to get the fast frame rate
Software version is better than any 3d version. Starting with the fact 3d version removes the HUD.
Remake now!
I wish games today had different versions optimized for whatever hardware you have... Too bad that is unlikely as it would take forever to actually implement.
yea its software mode the one to play
3dfx was the best.. smooth frame rate and the game timing would allow double speech
so thats more than a simple program or emulator...oh well looks something complicated but thx for answer :)
Very cool.
Hey you! Got one! *giggles*
I'll take software rendered graphics.
Everything that isn't software looks pretty awful.