I like both of them, so results of their fights are always cool for me, but in this fight Keenan was more active I think, and I thought that he will win.
I'm a fan of Keenan's, and I give him credit for inventing the worm guard. It's innovative, sure, but I don't think it's doing him much good on his level. Sure, people who are of a lower caliber or who aren't expecting it can easily fall into some impressive sweeps. At Keenan's level of competition though, everyone is read for this. Worm guard isn't offering any real submission opportunities and the sweeps are easily identified. It's locking Keenan down just as much as his opponents at this point. That's tragic for someone of Keenan's athleticism. I think freedom of movement would serve him so much better than getting bogged down in work guard. It's also terribly boring to watch.
Keenan is really good, I think he could be more successful if he relied less on that silly worm guard and made use of his other skills- he does have a lot of skills. He could play a far more aggressive game and go for subs, I think he could pull that off if he wanted to.
MrFreeeeeedom Worm Guard is REALLY good though. Keenan's Worm Guard specifically ( since others are trying to copy it now too of corse ), he has so many setups off Worm Guard and the control it offers... really not much of a downside to it.
It is nice to see that Keenan took next to 8 minutes to sweep Lo and it took less than 40 seconds for Lo to sweep him back... That tells you a lot! Lo has a better guard game than Keenan. IMHO the best guard game in BJJ right now is Lo's. And heck! He is also a great guard passer!!!! Passador e guardeiro! Fica ruim de aturar!
That was a great match but kinda boring at the same time. Thankfully the last minute had more action. That worm guard of Keenan's I love and hate. Against a competitor like Leandro Lo it could be slow and boring like this. But Keenan gets a lot of sweeps with it. Lo lucked out at the last second though and got points or an advantage--not sure how the ref scored it. Check out my commentary videos coming soon of the Pan 2015 absolute.
Does anyone think they shouldn't take their attention off the match to look at what their corner is saying? Seems like it hurts them more than it helps them.
It is annoying for spectators. If I made the rules, the competitors would match without advice from the corner. I know sometimes they are simply looking at the scoreboard/time.
Does anyone else hate coaches talking during the videos? Whenever I'm fighting it completely takes my focus away from the situation when someone talks to me and hearing someone talk to the athletes during their fights only makes me angry.
This guy doesn't even try to attack his opponent, just survive and then he wins the fight. I seen him do that to Nicholas Meregali and win. This is number one bullshit
O jiu jitsu ineficaz esse do Cornelius...jogo chato, e é esse tipo de jogo que está acabando com o jiu jitsu em si e tornando ele um esporte como o judo apenas de competição como ja diz o próprio Rickson
João Nogueira falou oq penso por isso quando eu pego alguém desse tipo no compt vou pra passar o carro mesmo fazer com que eles nunca mais tenha vontade de fazer esse tipo guarda novamente....
Acho que uma coisa não interfere na outra. O jiu-jitsu pode sim ser um esporte e continuar sendo um arte marcial eficiênciente pra defesa pessoal. Guarda com lapela e um recurso técnico eficiênciente e é ridículo rejeitar esse tipo de jogo.
I just can’t stand watching Keenan’s boring butt in the air stalling game. What’s the point of bragging that you are the master of warm guard if your not able to apply a simple omoplata. What’s the point of having such hard to pass guard if you have to sacrifice the main goal of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu which is the submission. I’m tired of watching Keenan stalling at every single match, applying the very same lapel technique that leads to nowhere. He even got disqualified on his fight against Paulo Miyao and almost got disqualified on Copa Podio. And replied the organization on his FB saying that they’re against innovation. Wtf man? What kind of innovation are you talking about? Get real. Lol
The only people he doesn't submit are the creme of the crop. At this level, submissions are not easy to come by. Train with him and see how many times you will submit
Of course in Brazil (and not only ...) there is not a great moral and sporting ethics. Little respect for the opponent, and for the rules. Referees often "distracted" who pretend not to see faults and misconduct. Not clear coaches who teach first of all that the opponent is an "enemy" to be killed, not an athlete who competes in the fight. With the silence (perhaps accomplice?) Of the sports federations. A culture not made of SPORT and VALUES, but only of violence and cunning. Such a pity !!!
I don't why but that "worm guard" annoys me for some reason, when Im training and people try to do it to me I always make sure it doesn't pay off for them. More hipster jiu jitsu. I know how to counter it; wear a really tight, short gi, boom its shut down..
+joebeast15 It breaks your posture and makes it easier to control the top player, how is that stalling? Easy sweeps. By your logic Closed Guard is a stalling position. A small tight gi is better for a worm guard player because it breaks your posture even more, a Loose big almost judo type gi is what really sucks for a worm player because they dont have as much control over you because your gi has more space to move.
I dont get swept by that stuff because it forces me to stabilize and not move, they cant move me, they have to wait for me to move, and Im not going to move just so I can get swept screw that. Hence: stall position. Like I said, Im sure people disagree and think its good, and thats cool. If I roll with you you are welcome to use it.
Ohhh, so what you're saying is that YOU stall, not the guy on the bottom? By that logic you can call a ton of guards stall positions because the guy on top could just hold position.
lllllionllllll That's the level he's at - top in the world. Worm guard has been figured out and the sub opportunities are severely limited. He's so athletic and mobile, why does he hang on to this guard limits both?
Os treinos do Leandro com o Rodolfo valeram muito a pena, Leandro passando igual o Rodolfo.
Parabéns Leandro! Muito merecido
Beautiful match. Very exciting to watch two of the greatest in the world go at it.
this freaking lapel guard is a pain in the fucking ass to deal with it , i'm glad leandro won !
Que luta difícil. Esse Keenan Cornelius tem uma guarda muito chata, a perna é longa, vai lá e busca. Grande vitória do LO.
At the end Keenan went for the gold but made a mistake that cost him the fight. l still give it to Keenan.
The high tied white belt lady with blue gi always distract me while every time I am watching this fight.
Lo definitely was ready to deal with Keenan's worm guard this time around. But damn is Keenan's guard hard to pass.
His guard is hard to pass.... unless your name is Rodolfo.
SubFlow22 Or Cyborg, or Alexander Trans, or Buchecha...
+SubFlow22 Rodolfo had a tough time passing, and keenan was still a brown belt. It would be cool to see them face off now.
90's Jiu-jitsu was more fun for the audience.
I don't even know were to begin trying to score that match.. But there both my favs.. Respect
thats a fuckin hard fought match, goin full tilt the entire time. they are absolutely drained by the end. mad respect to each of them.
I like both of them, so results of their fights are always cool for me, but in this fight Keenan was more active I think, and I thought that he will win.
guarda maldita, toda vez q assisto os videos de luta do cornelius tenho vontade de pegar um facão e rancar as duas pernas.
FELIPAO OSS pior que a guarda dos dois é zica neh
Da hora de mais kkk
FELIPAO OSS kkk
Kkkkk tive a mesma vontade
FELIPAO OSS pensei que era so eu kkk.
RIP LEANDRO LO !
Toda luta que assisto do lo ele ganha, nunca vi ele perder. E tudo adversário casaca grossa.
Esse laço que ele dá na perna com a barra do kimono é um saco, amarra a luta pra ganhar por uma queda.
That was awesome. I would rather see it played out but rules of competition are known by all competitors
. Good game. Keenan will grow an evolve.
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No. I think it was great match. Having dominant positions is more important than rush to submission at prof bjj.
Awesome guard from Keenan and BEAST preassure from Leandro
Worm guard best guard
Fuck yeah Leandro Lo!!!
No finalzinho pegou as costas guerreiro
I'm a fan of Keenan's, and I give him credit for inventing the worm guard. It's innovative, sure, but I don't think it's doing him much good on his level. Sure, people who are of a lower caliber or who aren't expecting it can easily fall into some impressive sweeps. At Keenan's level of competition though, everyone is read for this.
Worm guard isn't offering any real submission opportunities and the sweeps are easily identified. It's locking Keenan down just as much as his opponents at this point. That's tragic for someone of Keenan's athleticism. I think freedom of movement would serve him so much better than getting bogged down in work guard. It's also terribly boring to watch.
U clearly don't know anything abt worm guard. There are excellent sub opportunities and sweeps are hard to defend.
i agree stop doing 1 thing and expecting different results
Leandro é monstrao d ++++++++
Keenan is really good, I think he could be more successful if he relied less on that silly worm guard and made use of his other skills- he does have a lot of skills. He could play a far more aggressive game and go for subs, I think he could pull that off if he wanted to.
MrFreeeeeedom Worm Guard is REALLY good though. Keenan's Worm Guard specifically ( since others are trying to copy it now too of corse ), he has so many setups off Worm Guard and the control it offers... really not much of a downside to it.
Keenan Cornelius against the world :)
meus ídolos inspirações
LEANDRO LO, É ZICA,TEM JIUJITSU PARA TODOS OS GOSTOS...
I love keenan but I think it's due time that he give up all of this lapel related guard stuff.
Que lutão...ossss
he is my favorite
Why the Fuck did Keenan not go for the omoplata ? He was already there instead he gave his back that doesn't make sense to me
he did , actually keenan did go for a gogoplata , but leandro is really good at defending subs
he went to a takedown to win 2 points
Because he actually doesn't know shit about jiu jitsu, all he really knows about is inverting and contorting
ticosexy22 haha.. 'doesn't know shit about jiu-jitsu'. Yeeeeaaaahh.....
ticosexy22 I'd pay money to watch you roll with kennan. Your an idiot.
Is it called worm guard because of the guard or just because Keenan is a wiggly worm
GRANDE LEANDRO!!! Osss
how close was that GoGo
Leandro lo é Gênio
Grande Leandro!
Mano que raspagem pesada kkkk 8:50
the white belts in the back were more interesting than keenans lapel guard
SINISTROOOO
Real worm guard papi, bless this man tho.
Interesting fact: everyone in this video with the exception of Keenan and Leandro have sadly passed away.
What
r.i.p. in peace
Even the audience? I’ve been dead and I didn’t even know it...
This did not age well at all
What the f u talking
Anyone else get the vibe Lo was trying to disrespect Keenan after he won, at the end there?
UCTV! no
no
Keenan had good setups for omoplata and a triangle. I wonder why he didn't finish them?
LO felt the setup and wrapped the arm behind Keenan's back, taking away the sub.
nice!!
It is nice to see that Keenan took next to 8 minutes to sweep Lo and it took less than 40 seconds for Lo to sweep him back... That tells you a lot! Lo has a better guard game than Keenan. IMHO the best guard game in BJJ right now is Lo's. And heck! He is also a great guard passer!!!! Passador e guardeiro! Fica ruim de aturar!
Gfteam não para!!! Oss...
Mano o Lo é muito brabo
PArabéns MontrooOooo....
That was a great match but kinda boring at the same time. Thankfully the last minute had more action. That worm guard of Keenan's I love and hate. Against a competitor like Leandro Lo it could be slow and boring like this. But Keenan gets a lot of sweeps with it. Lo lucked out at the last second though and got points or an advantage--not sure how the ref scored it. Check out my commentary videos coming soon of the Pan 2015 absolute.
I liked this sport more when people pants didn't fall down.
Lo spends 13 mins doing next to nothing offensively and then let's out a war cry...?
He was attacking the whole match what you on about
Does anyone think they shouldn't take their attention off the match to look at what their corner is saying? Seems like it hurts them more than it helps them.
+hzuiel No way. It's very important to listen
It is annoying for spectators. If I made the rules, the competitors would match without advice from the corner. I know sometimes they are simply looking at the scoreboard/time.
Does anyone else hate coaches talking during the videos? Whenever I'm fighting it completely takes my focus away from the situation when someone talks to me and hearing someone talk to the athletes during their fights only makes me angry.
can't touch this
Juiz foi paciente com esse pessoal chato , acha paciencia viu..
KKKKK EXPERIENCIA PESOU NO FINAL.
Grande luta Leandro!!!
Keenan is not wearing his lucky pink mouth peice...
Worrrm
I don't know why Keenan keeps sticking to his worm guard.....which makes many people turn against BJJ...so boring...
just because He is doing it? It seems to work quite well.t
Keenan had a flying kungfu move at the end. Sad to see a creative person lose to a button masher
Jeez I've never heard someone call Leandro Lo a button masher lol
keenan is my eggys BRASIL PORRA... fuck year ...
Essa giarda de lapela do Keenan trava muito a luta.
This guy doesn't even try to attack his opponent, just survive and then he wins the fight. I seen him do that to Nicholas Meregali and win. This is number one bullshit
Old School Win!
No shitty Lapel/Maggot guard could withstand the pressure of the true basics, leg to the mat strength guardpass, Lo is Victor!
O jiu jitsu ineficaz esse do Cornelius...jogo chato, e é esse tipo de jogo que está acabando com o jiu jitsu em si e tornando ele um esporte como o judo apenas de competição como ja diz o próprio Rickson
João Nogueira falou oq penso por isso quando eu pego alguém desse tipo no compt vou pra passar o carro mesmo fazer com que eles nunca mais tenha vontade de fazer esse tipo guarda novamente....
mano nao podemos desmerecer esse tipo de guarda acho muito foda o jogo do cornelius mas cada 1 tem sua opiniao !!!
Acho que uma coisa não interfere na outra. O jiu-jitsu pode sim ser um esporte e continuar sendo um arte marcial eficiênciente pra defesa pessoal. Guarda com lapela e um recurso técnico eficiênciente e é ridículo rejeitar esse tipo de jogo.
Lo ADV
Cornelius
Esse keenan é encardido pqp
lol at the miyaos begging for advantages.
Cardiaco
Torcida mt chata. 10 caras gritando oq o atleta tem q fazer pqp
Kennan is very bad fighter because he only holds the lapel all the time and does not move.
O jogo desse bicho é muito chato e sinceramente não vejo eficiência, ele só faz amarrar a luta inteira, é um jogo sem objetividade, só amarração
I just can’t stand watching Keenan’s boring butt in the air stalling game. What’s the point of bragging that you are the master of warm guard if your not able to apply a simple omoplata. What’s the point of having such hard to pass guard if you have to sacrifice the main goal of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu which is the submission. I’m tired of watching Keenan stalling at every single match, applying the very same lapel technique that leads to nowhere. He even got disqualified on his fight against Paulo Miyao and almost got disqualified on Copa Podio. And replied the organization on his FB saying that they’re against innovation. Wtf man? What kind of innovation are you talking about? Get real. Lol
Monster Grip People who are proud of winning by points instead of going for submissions are killing the sport
Agree completely. Spends his life doing nothing but showing how well he can retain guard. Must be so frustrating to fight...and boring.
The only people he doesn't submit are the creme of the crop. At this level, submissions are not easy to come by. Train with him and see how many times you will submit
you sir are highly misinformed
Of course in Brazil (and not only ...) there is not a great moral and sporting ethics. Little respect for the opponent, and for the rules. Referees often "distracted" who pretend not to see faults and misconduct. Not clear coaches who teach first of all that the opponent is an "enemy" to be killed, not an athlete who competes in the fight. With the silence (perhaps accomplice?) Of the sports federations. A culture not made of SPORT and VALUES, but only of violence and cunning. Such a pity !!!
I don't why but that "worm guard" annoys me for some reason, when Im training and people try to do it to me I always make sure it doesn't pay off for them. More hipster jiu jitsu. I know how to counter it; wear a really tight, short gi, boom its shut down..
no its not..
Its a stall position, thats mainly why I dont like it. Thats just my opinion, Im sure lots of people like it and thats cool.
+joebeast15 It breaks your posture and makes it easier to control the top player, how is that stalling? Easy sweeps. By your logic Closed Guard is a stalling position. A small tight gi is better for a worm guard player because it breaks your posture even more, a Loose big almost judo type gi is what really sucks for a worm player because they dont have as much control over you because your gi has more space to move.
I dont get swept by that stuff because it forces me to stabilize and not move, they cant move me, they have to wait for me to move, and Im not going to move just so I can get swept screw that. Hence: stall position. Like I said, Im sure people disagree and think its good, and thats cool. If I roll with you you are welcome to use it.
Ohhh, so what you're saying is that YOU stall, not the guy on the bottom? By that logic you can call a ton of guards stall positions because the guy on top could just hold position.
Ugly Jiu Jitsu Keenan and IBJJF. The game of sweeps and advantages!
lllllionllllll That's the level he's at - top in the world. Worm guard has been figured out and the sub opportunities are severely limited. He's so athletic and mobile, why does he hang on to this guard limits both?
Playing guard is dumb and boring.
yuk ugly match. was that jiu jitsu?
So glad Keenan lost. His style is so bad for BJJ. I'd watch homosexual professional knitting if I wanted to watch a grown man playing with clothes.