I’ve always liked the idea that they’re all the same Mario. It has a weird charm to it. It’s always been one of those “It doesn’t have to make sense, it just is” kind of things.
There’s actually numerous of proof that proves all Mario’s are the same person + The RPGs and Spin-offs are Canon (Also The Paper Mario Series Isn’t In a Parallel Universe, and SMRPG Isn’t in an Alternate Universe) Btw The Mario + Rabbid’s Series Isn’t in a Parallel or Alternate Universe and considering there’s actually proof that proves Davide Solani’s Statement wrong. (Btw, The Yoshi’s Island Series is canon, and The Mario Movie Series is canon but in a different continuity)
@ 1) The Paper Mario shown during Paper Jam Isn’t the same one from the games, not to mention, there’s many Inconsistencies shown in that game. 2) Superstar Saga DX states SMB, SMW, SM64, and Paper Mario Block’s are Mario’s Past Adventures. 3) Shigeru Miyamoto Statement was 2 years after Paper Jam was released, and he stated all Mario’s are the same.
Ya know what you makes this UA-cam channel Great, the fact that this channel actually makes original content like this without relying on switch 2 all the time. Nintendo UA-camrs just focus on leaks these days but Nin10doland is out here cranking out REAL Nintendo content that actually talks about fun topics💪🏾👏🏾💪🏾
@RTB-x2f true, i just want him to do really good video's like this in this channel and than make a second channel if his other filler rumor video's, but i feel like than these filler rumor video's would get even more filler romor video's, okey fine i stop lol.
There's one main Mario universe that contains games like: -Mario and Luigi -Donkey Kong Country/Donkey Kong arcade -Yoshi Island -Luigis Mansion -Mario RPG -Mainline Mario games -Mario Party and Kart Then there's the Paper Mario "universe" which is a collection of books written by someone in the main universe, some of which are based on real adventures Mario had (PM64 - SPM,) and some are entirely fictional (Sticker Star - Origami King.) This Universe isn't strictly "real" in the same sense as the main universe, rather it only becomes sentient during the events of Paper Jam, and goes back to just being written stories after the events of the game. The Mario movie, and all other extra media like the rabbids games are just different universes.
This is my headcanon: Mario Prime Universe: Mario was born and raised in the Mushroom Kingdom (Yoshi’s Island), moved to New Donk City to find a job (Donkey Kong, Mario Bros, etc), and moved back to Mushroom Kingdom to fight Bowser (SMB1). M&L and most spinoffs are also canon. Paper Universe: This universe contains the Paper Mario and Yoshis Woolly/Crafted World games. Animated Universe: Mario is raised in New York City, stumbles upon a portal to the Mushroom Kingdom, you know the rest (Mario Movie ‘23). The Super Show is an in-universe adaptation of Mario’s life into a cartoon (Obviously, Mario cast Lou Albano as himself) Movie Universe: After the events of the Mario Movie ‘93, Koopa’s henchman (whose name I forget) creates an unsuccessful game franchise based on the adventures of Mario. This contains Hotel Mario and the edutainment games. Smash Universe: Smash Bros is canon to Mario RPG and Mario Kart. That explains the cameos from Link, Samus, Villager, and Inkling, and gives even more reason for Geno to be in Smash. This also contains the Wii Series games.
6:34 actually, there is a call back to Goombella in Paper Mario Sticker Star in level 5-1 when you are seaching among piles of trash, it contians many notes and you can find Goombella's note there
*Fans: "Are every mario the same person or is it a parallel universe of marios? Or are they the different entities that changes with the mario world and they're cannon?"* *Miyamoto: "Yes."* 1:17
While they are different they are connected. People (including me) are 99.9% sure that the black paint from Bowser's Fury is the same black paint from the ending of Paper Mario:Color Splash.
The Paper Mario’s are canonically characters from the books, so they’re technically different Mario’s. But assuming they are related to canon legends of Mario’s adventures, they’d be the same as the Mario, and the same as themselves. If the Mario’s across the mainline 2D/3D games are the same, then so are the papers.
I actually do UA-cam shorts ranking every Mario! I believe it is a Marioverse. Miyamoto only confirmed that they are the "same guy." and not that it is the same exact Mario across all stories. Awesome vid as always Nin10doland (:
I like to think they just wrote down the Adventures of Mario in that book and that book somehow became its own reality meaning that every Mario game is in the paper world including Galaxy, sunshine, odyssey, even Paper Mario Kart because maybe those books are just Mario's Diary
When you see the massive difference between a Mario 64 , a Mario Sunshine and a Mario Galaxy : The answer is clearly no. And that's why the Mario franchise is so good ! 👍
what's that ''massice difference'' that makes the answer ''clearly'' no? Miyamoto in a gameinformer interview said yes to this question, so this question shouldn't even be asked at this point, sometimes I don't get people.
Great video, Nin10doland! You know, Mario and Luigi games just about prove that Mario is a loving brother to Luigi. That's why some people try to mess it up by saying it's a different universe, so it's not the same Mario. So sad, 😭
@ The stuff that Nin10Doland said such as The Paper Mario Series being in a Parallel Universe, SMRPG is in an Alternate Universe/World, and The Yoshi’s Island Series being “non-canon” to The Mario Timeline is all wrong tbh And Considering there’s lotsa proof that proves The Mario + Rabbid’s Series Is In the same canon and Timeline as Mario, that’d prove Davide Solani’s Statement wrong.
@@D4Nesquickster Yeah, Mario is Mario. Even Paper Mario is just another rendering of Mario. Besides, Miyamoto confirmed it, so there's really nothing more to say.
To me the only "different mario" is going to be Paper mario since the crossovers. In my head Paper mario is either a toad making legends of both brothers, or them retelling a story we never saw. And any film/ show version is unique. And to be fair for rabbids they did show up from another dimension and messed around so much that a portal took the mario characters away sooo.
Miyamoto wasn't being literal because Ubisoft, illumination and Mario Brothership ALL contradict this idea. The Mario Movie isn't canon for various reasons, Brothership and Paper Jam both confirm Paper Mario was in fact a different entity who shares similar experiences to Mario. The Director of Mario + Rabbids said the games aren't canon either can take place in a different universe.
@@BlueJourney2719He probably just accidentally made a mistake cause he wasn’t thinking about the lore. They can’t all be connected cause some games contradict each other. Like how in Mario Oddessey they say the cloud kingdom was owned by an ancient race of people that vanished when we know that Mallow and his family are the rulers of the cloud people. Even if you don’t think that’s fair evidence then how does Mario turn into a paper airplane in TTYD. Also according to you both the Mario Movies are canon. If Miyamoto was retconning the old movies or some pieces of media he wouldn’t say all Mario’s are the same ( I hope I understood what you said correctly in the second part of you’re reply, if not I’m sorry). All I’m trying to say here is that lots of things don’t make since in different Mario titles so they can’t all fit together, some just gotta go. Don’t want to be mean at all, just stating my opinion.
Short answer: NO. Movie Mario, Paper Mario and Smash Mario were all confirmed to he different universes. Miyamoto says they're the same but he probably just meant in terms of personality.
Miyamoto did said that every Mario (Beside Movie Mario and Smash Mario) is the same. Even Death Battle believes all Paper Mario and Regular Mario are the same.
Is it possible to believe they were: 1. Born in Brooklyn (real world) 2. Taken by a stork and transported to the Mushroom Kingdom (Mushroom universe/dimension) 3. Returned to Brooklyn (as babies, because people don’t age in the Mushroom universe) - they also don’t remember being in the Mushroom universe. 4. Grew older and became plumbers. 5. Returned to the Mushroom Kingdom per events of Mario movie, where they no longer age, where they continue to live and save the world. I’m choosing this until more lore is established in future Mario bros movies.
I mean there are multiple statements within paper Mario games that they are the same character. It was also set an interviews. They just wanted to do a crossover with the paper Mario franchise so they picked the RPG series. It was also stated paper Mario in that game is nothing more but a meta-reference. Not just that but in brothership, they make a reference on how Mario could turn into a piece of paper when they’re trapped in the jail cell
@ there’s more proof to support it than to deny paper jam doesn’t mean anything when is directly contradicting to the paper Mario series and isn’t even the same book as we normally see 🙄
@@cringemariobros2516 paper jam literally contradicts nothing to the paper Mario games and Mario and Luigi literally deny doing something that paper Mario could in the literally previous game stop coping just cause you didn’t like paper jam
@ a pokey quite literally has one of the sticker star crowns, which would contradict the law as they shouldn’t be there. The only reason they exist is because it got split up, which would also cause their guardian to spawn, which isn’t in the game at all and to add onto that there is a photo in peaches room that shows every paper Mario game except for PJ why you might ask because it’s not canon the game is just meant to be a crossover a bunch of meta-references
@@cringemariobros2516 it’s literally a normal crown that only looks similiar to the sticker one 💀 Or cause if you actually use your brain you would actually come to the conclusion paper jam isn’t a paper Mario game but a Mario and Luigi game Also nice headcanons but brothership,maker and odyssey don’t care about your whines
Every Mario is pretty much the same even miyamoto has confirmed it not to mention every Mario game is mainline and also canon since it’s published by Nintendo
@@ComicBoy60s design choice, doesn't mean it's not the same. Like if peach changed to a brand new dress would that make her a different version of herself?
Mario Kart is not from another dimension. When F.L.U.D. D. scans Mario for the first time in Sunshine, we can see a list of past Mario games, including Mario Kart 64 and Super Mario Kart. The Mechanic’s Outfit that’s Mario can buy in Odyssey. What’s interesting about this outfit is that it features Multiple Brands that can be found throughout the Mario Kart games, such as Mario Motors or Bowser Oil. Peach’s Castle from Paper Mario also reappears on Rainbow Road in Mario Kart: Super Circuit. The ending of Paper Mario: Color Splash has Luigi arrive in his Standard Kart from Mario Kart 8 and at one point Bowser asks Mario if they have a kart race scheduled for that day. Dry Dry Desert from Paper Mario also appears as a racecourse in Mario Kart: Double Dash!! In Mario's house from Superstar Saga Remake, we can see a Mario Kart trophy. In the official Mario encyclopedia book to commemorate the 30th Anniversary, there's a section that mentions Mario's overall history and his involvement. 4 stars are mainline games, and 3 stars are major Mario games, to which each Mario Kart game has. They note that these appearances are the same Mario as he is from the mainline games. I hope you understand why Mario Kart is Canon.
My personal head cannon is that there are different universes with different Marios, but each of them goes through the same thing so anything that happens in Mario and Luigi could happen in paper Mario just in a completely different art style and format
Yes they are the same character, the only debate being Paper Mario and normal Mario and maybe Mario + Rabbids Mario but that’s it. They’re all the same guy.
@@mynameisntimportant1374 Ok, then tell me the sources of these statements. Oh, should I tell mine first? Okay! 1. Mario + Rabbids is NOT canon, because the SupaMerge that merged Mario and the Rabbids together is only merged the rabbids with a Mario poster. There are also a lot of planets and A LOT of rabbids in thosse games we never see in others. DK island is also a different dimension in those games, and this is not the case in the games. The rabbids games were also published by Ubisoft, that can also prove that it isn't canon. And if this wouldn't be enough, the director of these games, Davide Soliani confirmed that they aren't canon! How can you prove THAT wrong? 2. The paper asthetic of the paper mario games is just an art style, and the paper moves in spm for example is just a gameplay element. There is NOTHING to suggest these games take place in ''A book dimension'' or something. If they take place in a book, then so does Dr. Mario 64, Yoshi's Story and Mario Party 6 too. Do you think those aren't canon? ''Oh, but what about Mario & Luigi Paper Jam?'' you may ask. Well, the Paper universe in that game is an excact paralell world to the main Mario world. Everything happened to ''normal'' Mario until that point, also happened to the paper one. They almost always do/think of the same thing too, like the Kameks both try to trick each other at the same time. It's nothing else taht that. While I said why I think these are the answers, I would still like to hear why you think things differently, so feel free to say it.
@Jómagam-12345 that poster contained the Mario universe Hastly generalization and the universe in Mario is infinite and houses infinite beings Also you clearly never played the games the island isn’t in another dimension the supamerge just transported dk and others to another dimension Mario and Luigi were pubblished by alphadream, paper Mario by intelligent systems and Mario rpg by square this point is totally irrelevant especially since Ubisoft had to get Nintendo permission Death of the author and appeal to false authority soliani doesn’t believe his own authority and he left Ubisoft + his statements got debunked by the games and miyamoto himself Mario + rabbids is canon deal with it 2. Literally their entire physics but keep inventing stuff that makes you sleep at night, literally every sigle opening of every paper Mario game : …. Also yoshi story got transformed into a book it wasn’t already a book and those other two are books of the same timeline and paper Mario is a book of another dimension Yeah yeah don’t need to ask anything since it’s clear I know more than you just like what you said “EVeRytHinG thAT hApPeneD in MariO wORlD hApPened in PapER mArIo” Paper peach when she met starlow : who are you ? Mario + rabbids Mario is the same as mainline Mario and paper Mario is a parallel Mario Sorry that I was rude i just don’t like when people spread misinformation
I headcanon that the Paper Mario series is an in-universe serialization of some of Mario's stories, with details embellished or altered (Like what happened with the book of Luigi's story in TTYD). And there being different authors explains why some games were so terri- eh, different.
Baby Mario is confirmed to be the same Mario from the Mario and Luigi series so… 7 to 13 Marios depending if you count the tv show, movies, comics and manga if you want the real number of how many Marios there are and that’s being conservative
Don't forget that Miyamoto said that all the Mario games are plays in universe, put on by the same actors. So when he says it is always the same Mario, he might just mean that we always see the same Mario because it is all the same actor. But in the plays themselves, they might still be separate characters. Is that needlessly confusing? Yes, absolutely.
Miyamoto doesn't really care about continuity. I'd rather see the various spin-off series as their own separate continuities. It just makes more sense that way.
@@CuteRedPanda64 I like to assume that certain games that happened took place in more than one continuity. We can also say that some of said continuities have their own versions of shared characters like the Star Spirits and E. Gadd. If everything that comprised forty years worth of video games and spin-offs took place in only one continuity, the Mushroom World would be over-bloated.
Starlow is a visitor to the Mushroom Kingdom, she doesn’t live there. She’s a star sprite and lives with the other star sprites elsewhere. Every game where she’s appeared in is because she’s visiting.
All Marios are the same Mario, with the partial exception of Paper Mario. The adventures Paper Mario goes on are adaptations of real adventures Mainline Mario did, with games like SPM, SS and CS probably being original books.
I like to say this paper Mario is call Mario's story in Japan meaning it's a story based on the cannon event plus Luigi dairy mentions the spin off games and is very meta mention the Nintendo 64 and the game itself making them have self awareness
I believe each Mario is the same, except Paper Mario is a separate entity that lives in books of mushroom kingdom that has separate adventures, but the first games were retellings of the real mario’s stories
I think that in general every Mario is the same Mario, with differences being from different creative visions for each game. If even mainline Mario games can contradict each other but still be considered the same universe, this is just a universe that's flexible in its portrayal. I see modern Paper Mario as a separate universe partially out of bitterness at how hard it rejects the very strong continuity of the first 3 games, but also because it takes the paper stuff literally in the story, compared to only ever using it in a magical context or just for visual flair in the older games (in other words, I feel like Paper Mario was flanderized after Super Paper Mario). I don't think the storybook intros in the first 3 games literally mean this entire world is physically inside a book, they're just a quirky visual tool to introduce the story to us. Considering Paper Jam uses content from ONLY Sticker Star and no other game, I see no reason to claim it makes a statement about the first 3 games. As far as I'm concerned the events of the first 3 Paper Mario games and the characters involved in them canonically happened in the same Mario world we see in the mainline games, as did Super Mario RPG and the Mario & Luigi games, and any visual or design differences comes down to the creators having different ideas for how to portray the world. SMRPG may look particularly distinct, but there's no practical reason we can't treat it the same way we treat Peach's Castle & Toad Town's layout changing every game, and sometimes Toad Town being erased entirely. The Mushroom Kingdom is an island in Odyssey but not in other games, does that make Odyssey its own timeline? I'll concede that other than modern Paper Mario/Paper Jam's Paper Mario, Movie Mario is also different enough to be noncanon, just because of the whole Yoshi's Island vs Brooklyn thing as well as Donkey Kong's lineage and the existence of Donkey Kong Jr. And Mario+Rabbids because of developer statements and it being a crossover. But pretty much everything else, I say there's no reason not to believe a version of it canonically happened in the mainline world. Yes even Hotel Mario. And despite Movie Mario's differences to Game Mario, I still want to see expansive representation of the games, including the RPGs, adapted into the movie universe.
“Modern” paper Mario is the same paper Mario and Mario + rabbids is in the mainline timeline not only soliani doesn’t believe his own authority his claims get debunked by the games themselves
Listen to this theory I have: I believe the Paper Mario world is the same book, and if we're following release order, Super Paper Mario was right before Mario Galaxy. So when Rosalina says "The cycle doesn't always repeat itself the same way" after the big bang, THAT'S when the Paper Mario book and the worlds within were changed. This also explains how there's still a Star Festival in Galaxy 2. The year of the comet was likely altered. And finally it could imply that Rosalina is from a previous incarnation of the universe which would make sense as to how she knows so much about it. I genuinely want to know if anyone else has ever thought about this theory.
I will explain how Mario from the other games are the same Mario... The Mechanic’s Outfit that’s Mario can buy in Super Mario Odyssey. What’s interesting about this outfit is that it features Brands that can be found throughout the Mario Kart games, such as Mario Motors or Bowser Oil. It is revealed in Mario Sunshine that Professor E. Gadd built both F.L.U.D.D. and the Magic Paintbrush, meaning that the Professor and therefore Luigi’s Mansion are canon. The Poltergust 4000 also appears in Mario Kart DS, between the Poltergust 3000 of Luigi’s Mansion and the Poltergust 5000 of Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon. When F.L.U.D. D. scans Mario in Sunshine, we can see Super Mario Kart and Mario Kart 64 as one of past Mario games alongside Mainline Mario games. The sports games are canon thanks to some character descriptions on Nintendo’s website. In Mario’s character description, it states “these amazing athletic skills are put to good use in a variety of sports, like tennis, baseball, soccer and even auto racing. Mario may be a sporting superstar, but his main interest, of course, is keeping his beloved Princess Peach safe and away from the clutches of Bowser.” For Peach’s description it notes that “when she’s not being bothered by bad guys, Peach enjoys baking cakes, playing tennis, and hanging out with her pal, Mario.” In the description for Wrecking Crew in NES Nintendo Switch Online it says “In the days before Mario & Luigi became sports stars in their downtime from saving the Princess, they tried their hands as one-man Wrecking Crews.” The Mario & Luigi series is next, and we’ll start off with Mario’s House in Superstar Saga 3DS Remake. In this house, we can see Mario’s tennis racket and golf club from the Mario Tennis and Mario Golf games respectively. We also see a Mario Kart trophy, as well as Mario’s Outfit from Wrecking Crew. Professor E. Gadd’s Lab from Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time also reappears as the bunker in Luigi’s Mansion 2: Dark Moon. The Geno doll from Super Mario RPG reappears in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, meaning that Super Mario RPG is also canon. Speaking of SMRPG. When Mario walks behind a curtained section in Booster Tower, he emerges as the 8-Bit Sprite from SMB NES. The Koopa Clown Car (SMW) reappears in the introductory cutscene and finally. Magikoopa's Psychopath message references Kamek's involvement with the events of the game. His thought is 「キイーッウキイーーッ！ あの時の赤んぼう！？」 (Kiii ukiii! The baby from that time!?) in the Japanese version, which refers to recognizing the adult Mario. His thought is "That's...my child?" in the English version, which instead refers to Bowser, whom Kamek and the Toadies helped raise since a baby. The Official Mario Encyclopedia book. There's a section that mentions Mario's overall history and his involvement. 4 stars are mainline games, and 3 stars are major Mario games, to which each Mario Spin-Off game has. They note that these appearances are the same Mario as he is from the mainline games. That references are supported by Miyamoto. Miyamoto confirmed Mario is always the same Mario in most Mario games and its spin-offs. You can read Paper Mario Canonicty blog from The Codex Wiki and SuperBearNeo's blog from Omniversal Battlefield Wiki explaining how Paper Mario games are Canon. I hope you can understand that all Mario games are Canon. Remember, Paper Mario's Canonicity blog debunked The Book Argument, The Paper Argument and the Paper Jam arguments to prove the world in Paper Jam is NOT RELATED to the Paper games if Intelligent Systems didn't developed Paper Jam. I can explain how Mario + Rabbids is Canon: The Phantom mentions Donkey Kong Arcade in his song (The Phantom of the Bwahpera) which references the fact that it is Mario's first appearance. The wallpaper in the laboratory in the introductory cutscene is a scene from SMB NES. The Phantom says "your princess is in another castle" in his song, which is derived from a quote from SMB. When the Rabbids' Time Washing Machine malfunctions in the introductory cutscene, sprites of Super Mushrooms, ? Blocks, and Mario taken from SMB3 can be seen on the number displays. During the Phantom's song, he mentions Mario Kart series and describes a scenario in which Mario is in first place and doing well until he gets hit by a Spiny Shell. A poster featuring artwork from New SMB DS appears in the introductory cutscene. During the ending of Sparks of Hope, Rosalina mentions she once went looking for her family, referencing her storybook. I hope you understand well the Mario Canon. The Mario Movie and Smash would be different Marios.
Well, you clearly don't know what your talking about, since all paper mario games are clearly in the same universe, and in fact, they are almost all in the same universe, you just separated some, so now I have to fix the canon myself
The reason why Miyamoto said they are all the same Mario, is because of the universal resets that happen from time to time according to Super Mario Galaxy (same souls, just recycled) The only exception to this is the Paper universe.
The idea of a multiverse with different versions of the same character hasn't been trendy all the time, it just became popular recently with Marvel, and we frame everything as a multiverse but that doesn't represent how stories were conceived back then. I see Mario's characters more like Tom & Yerry in their old show, each episode is a completely different story using the same characters. Some times the characters even died during the story but the next episode they just forgot everything. That doesn't mean that there was a multiverse nor anything like that, it could be seen as a multiverse, but the idea it's more simple and don't require all that complex explanation: it's more like having a character with official appareance and traits but none of the stories related to that character are canon. Just enjoy one story for what it is and forget about that one next time. Miyamoto once said that he sees his characters like a troupe of actors, I think that's inline with this interpretation.
mario rpg has been around for quite some time so I understand if you think that its a different mario from a different timeline, I remember it coming out in like 1998 or 1996 so maybe it was supposed to be a demo version of the castle so therfore, its probably not a different timeline and its just a remastered version before, like how pacman went from 2d to 3d, same difference.
I’ve accepted Mario origins is with Yoshi and when it comes to early arcade games ( whether is be his dad or bot in the og donkey kong ), that’s all in new donk city. George the bros moved back to mushroom kingdom
The only Mario's that could be different are Paper Mario and any non-game Mario. The Mario from the animated movie, the live-action movie, and the TV series are all seperate continuities. As for Paper Mario, Paper Jam pretty much confirmed they are two different individuals with the lore being Paper Mario's world is inside a book in Peach's Castle.
9:40 Mario RPG was developed before many of the characters and places of the Mario franchise were established, that's the reason of the creative differences. Is that a different universe? it's a way to see it, but I'm pretty sure they just don't cared about continuity. Even in the mainline Mario games they are not consistent, since Mario 64, Peach's Castle have had a very similar layout, however it hasn't been exactly the same, same could be said about Toad Town, and probably many other elements. From the point of view of the creators they have just beeing using the same characters wihout a well established continuity. That doesn't mean they are different versions of the same Mario.
1. Aren't Parakarry and Goombella name dropped in Sticker Star? In the trash heap, there are some letters I'm pretty sure. Goombella's talks about her visiting Chomp Ruins or something like that. Did I imagine that? If I didn't, that would mean that all Paper Mario's are in fact the same Paper Mario. 2. Whacka is from Paper Mario 64, they just appeared again in The Thousand Year Door
Before watching: Honestly I think there's 2 Marios across the games, Mario and Paper Mario. I say this because Paper Mario is the only version that literally CAN'T be the same a la Paper Jam and for a multitude of other reasons, namely the fact that "real" Mario definitely shouldn't be able to crunch and fold himself into a paper airplane for example. Obviously the movie Marios are different too.
I just know that Mario’s real origin is that he is from New York and that yoshi’s island is non canon as if it is just a different timeline aka a different reality
Super Mario RPG did predate Super Mario 64, and the remake is mostly faithful to the original SNES game than trying to make it match later Mario games. In the case of Yoshi’s Island (and Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time), Super Mario Odyssey’s New Donk City appears to have replaced New York as the canon hometown of Mario and Luigi, so Mario and Luigi lived in the Mushroom Kingdom in their youth, but at some point the Mario family moved to the Metro Kingdom.
I mean if Shiger Miyamoto said it's the same mario i will say the same (The next morning) Miyamoto: I'm bowser Jr's mom Me: WHAT THE %@£&= THAT'S CANNON!? no ima gonna yeet now
I’ve always liked the idea that they’re all the same Mario. It has a weird charm to it. It’s always been one of those “It doesn’t have to make sense, it just is” kind of things.
Considering that Mario is a cartoony game... this makes sense.
I like to think the Paper Mario games are in a single dimension, but linked to multiple books.
I mean, partners in time shows us that Mario & Luigi at least grew up in the mushroom kingdom !
Meaning they aren’t the same ones from the movie.
@BrickinRidiculous Of course yeah !
As infants/toddlers, they lived in the mushroom kingdom, but were eventually returned to the NYC. Years later, they found the warp pipe.
I believed this is the same Mario. I believed his looks had been changed in these RPGs.
That is Ture
same
There’s actually numerous of proof that proves all Mario’s are the same person + The RPGs and Spin-offs are Canon
(Also The Paper Mario Series Isn’t In a Parallel Universe, and SMRPG Isn’t in an Alternate Universe)
Btw
The Mario + Rabbid’s Series Isn’t in a Parallel or Alternate Universe and considering there’s actually proof that proves Davide Solani’s Statement wrong.
(Btw, The Yoshi’s Island Series is canon, and The Mario Movie Series is canon but in a different continuity)
Ok then how does paper Mario exist
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The Paper Mario shown during Paper Jam Isn’t the same one from the games, not to mention, there’s many Inconsistencies shown in that game.
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Superstar Saga DX states SMB, SMW, SM64, and Paper Mario Block’s are Mario’s Past Adventures.
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Shigeru Miyamoto Statement was 2 years after Paper Jam was released, and he stated all Mario’s are the same.
Ya know what you makes this UA-cam channel Great, the fact that this channel actually makes original content like this without relying on switch 2 all the time. Nintendo UA-camrs just focus on leaks these days but Nin10doland is out here cranking out REAL Nintendo content that actually talks about fun topics💪🏾👏🏾💪🏾
thats what i also thought! nice to see someone agree with that!
Finally fixed
He usually just does stupid leaks, but when he cooks, he cooks HARD!
@RTB-x2f true, i just want him to do really good video's like this in this channel and than make a second channel if his other filler rumor video's, but i feel like than these filler rumor video's would get even more filler romor video's, okey fine i stop lol.
There's one main Mario universe that contains games like:
-Mario and Luigi
-Donkey Kong Country/Donkey Kong arcade
-Yoshi Island
-Luigis Mansion
-Mario RPG
-Mainline Mario games
-Mario Party and Kart
Then there's the Paper Mario "universe" which is a collection of books written by someone in the main universe, some of which are based on real adventures Mario had (PM64 - SPM,) and some are entirely fictional (Sticker Star - Origami King.) This Universe isn't strictly "real" in the same sense as the main universe, rather it only becomes sentient during the events of Paper Jam, and goes back to just being written stories after the events of the game.
The Mario movie, and all other extra media like the rabbids games are just different universes.
A Nintendo Land video that isn’t about the Switch 2? How refreshing!
This is my headcanon:
Mario Prime Universe: Mario was born and raised in the Mushroom Kingdom (Yoshi’s Island), moved to New Donk City to find a job (Donkey Kong, Mario Bros, etc), and moved back to Mushroom Kingdom to fight Bowser (SMB1). M&L and most spinoffs are also canon.
Paper Universe: This universe contains the Paper Mario and Yoshis Woolly/Crafted World games.
Animated Universe: Mario is raised in New York City, stumbles upon a portal to the Mushroom Kingdom, you know the rest (Mario Movie ‘23). The Super Show is an in-universe adaptation of Mario’s life into a cartoon (Obviously, Mario cast Lou Albano as himself)
Movie Universe: After the events of the Mario Movie ‘93, Koopa’s henchman (whose name I forget) creates an unsuccessful game franchise based on the adventures of Mario. This contains Hotel Mario and the edutainment games.
Smash Universe: Smash Bros is canon to Mario RPG and Mario Kart. That explains the cameos from Link, Samus, Villager, and Inkling, and gives even more reason for Geno to be in Smash. This also contains the Wii Series games.
6:34 actually, there is a call back to Goombella in Paper Mario Sticker Star in level 5-1 when you are seaching among piles of trash, it contians many notes and you can find Goombella's note there
*Fans: "Are every mario the same person or is it a parallel universe of marios? Or are they the different entities that changes with the mario world and they're cannon?"*
*Miyamoto: "Yes."*
1:17
(6:34) Actually there was a call back to all the Paper Mario games, there was pictures of Peach from every Paper Mario game.
3:11 actually we have piantas in starshine galaxy from Mario Galaxy 2
While they are different they are connected. People (including me) are 99.9% sure that the black paint from Bowser's Fury is the same black paint from the ending of Paper Mario:Color Splash.
nah huey is just built different and went out the book from paper jam and hated on bowser
@WooperK could be true but where is Lake Lapcat even located?
The Paper Mario’s are canonically characters from the books, so they’re technically different Mario’s. But assuming they are related to canon legends of Mario’s adventures, they’d be the same as the Mario, and the same as themselves. If the Mario’s across the mainline 2D/3D games are the same, then so are the papers.
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I actually do UA-cam shorts ranking every Mario! I believe it is a Marioverse. Miyamoto only confirmed that they are the "same guy." and not that it is the same exact Mario across all stories. Awesome vid as always Nin10doland (:
The Legend of Peach.
6:49-7:06 THAT LITERALLY GOT ME ON THE FLOOR!
I like to think they just wrote down the Adventures of Mario in that book
and that book somehow became its own reality
meaning that every Mario game is in the paper world including Galaxy, sunshine, odyssey, even Paper Mario Kart
because maybe those books are just Mario's Diary
When you see the massive difference between a Mario 64 , a Mario Sunshine and a Mario Galaxy :
The answer is clearly no.
And that's why the Mario franchise is so good ! 👍
what's that ''massice difference'' that makes the answer ''clearly'' no?
Miyamoto in a gameinformer interview said yes to this question, so this question shouldn't even be asked at this point, sometimes I don't get people.
Great video, Nin10doland!
You know, Mario and Luigi games just about prove that Mario is a loving brother to Luigi. That's why some people try to mess it up by saying it's a different universe, so it's not the same Mario. So sad, 😭
All Mario’s are the same and there’s many proof
Also the Spin-offs are canon with Many Proof
@D4Nesquickster That's right👍
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The stuff that Nin10Doland said such as The Paper Mario Series being in a Parallel Universe, SMRPG is in an Alternate Universe/World, and The Yoshi’s Island Series being “non-canon” to The Mario Timeline is all wrong tbh
And Considering there’s lotsa proof that proves The Mario + Rabbid’s Series Is In the same canon and Timeline as Mario, that’d prove Davide Solani’s Statement wrong.
@@D4Nesquickster Yeah, Mario is Mario. Even Paper Mario is just another rendering of Mario. Besides, Miyamoto confirmed it, so there's really nothing more to say.
@KTGamer-n8syou know appeal to authority is a thing right ?
To me the only "different mario" is going to be Paper mario since the crossovers. In my head Paper mario is either a toad making legends of both brothers, or them retelling a story we never saw. And any film/ show version is unique. And to be fair for rabbids they did show up from another dimension and messed around so much that a portal took the mario characters away sooo.
Miyamoto confirmed it yes…meaning Mario-Kun, Paper Mario, Movie Mario, and Rabbids Mario are the same guy…
Yep
Miyamoto wasn't being literal because Ubisoft, illumination and Mario Brothership ALL contradict this idea.
The Mario Movie isn't canon for various reasons, Brothership and Paper Jam both confirm Paper Mario was in fact a different entity who shares similar experiences to Mario. The Director of Mario + Rabbids said the games aren't canon either can take place in a different universe.
@ How do you know he wasn’t being literal? This is HIS franchise, he COULD retcon or change his mind if he wanted too
That interview is pretty much outdated, they've already contradicted themselves.
@@BlueJourney2719He probably just accidentally made a mistake cause he wasn’t thinking about the lore. They can’t all be connected cause some games contradict each other. Like how in Mario Oddessey they say the cloud kingdom was owned by an ancient race of people that vanished when we know that Mallow and his family are the rulers of the cloud people. Even if you don’t think that’s fair evidence then how does Mario turn into a paper airplane in TTYD. Also according to you both the Mario Movies are canon. If Miyamoto was retconning the old movies or some pieces of media he wouldn’t say all Mario’s are the same ( I hope I understood what you said correctly in the second part of you’re reply, if not I’m sorry). All I’m trying to say here is that lots of things don’t make since in different Mario titles so they can’t all fit together, some just gotta go. Don’t want to be mean at all, just stating my opinion.
Yes
Short answer: NO. Movie Mario, Paper Mario and Smash Mario were all confirmed to he different universes. Miyamoto says they're the same but he probably just meant in terms of personality.
Miyamoto did said that every Mario (Beside Movie Mario and Smash Mario) is the same. Even Death Battle believes all Paper Mario and Regular Mario are the same.
@@Starwarsfan1253What does Death Battle have to do with this? 💀
@@cirnosnumberfan6449I am giving an example. Can you not read?
I know that princess peach castle is not the same either
@@Starwarsfan1253 What example even is that? Death Battle is irrelevant to this conversation.
Im glad to know somebody actually is agnolliging this game when talking about this topic
I have a great theory that some Mario series are in different universes with different villains that Mario defeated.
Great to watch a video not related to switch 2 rumors at last
Is it possible to believe they were:
1. Born in Brooklyn (real world)
2. Taken by a stork and transported to the Mushroom Kingdom (Mushroom universe/dimension)
3. Returned to Brooklyn (as babies, because people don’t age in the Mushroom universe) - they also don’t remember being in the Mushroom universe.
4. Grew older and became plumbers.
5. Returned to the Mushroom Kingdom per events of Mario movie, where they no longer age, where they continue to live and save the world.
I’m choosing this until more lore is established in future Mario bros movies.
I mean there are multiple statements within paper Mario games that they are the same character. It was also set an interviews. They just wanted to do a crossover with the paper Mario franchise so they picked the RPG series. It was also stated paper Mario in that game is nothing more but a meta-reference. Not just that but in brothership, they make a reference on how Mario could turn into a piece of paper when they’re trapped in the jail cell
Notice how they deny they could directly proving once more how Mario isn’t paper Mario
@ there’s more proof to support it than to deny paper jam doesn’t mean anything when is directly contradicting to the paper Mario series and isn’t even the same book as we normally see 🙄
@@cringemariobros2516 paper jam literally contradicts nothing to the paper Mario games and Mario and Luigi literally deny doing something that paper Mario could in the literally previous game stop coping just cause you didn’t like paper jam
@ a pokey quite literally has one of the sticker star crowns, which would contradict the law as they shouldn’t be there. The only reason they exist is because it got split up, which would also cause their guardian to spawn, which isn’t in the game at all and to add onto that there is a photo in peaches room that shows every paper Mario game except for PJ why you might ask because it’s not canon the game is just meant to be a crossover a bunch of meta-references
@@cringemariobros2516 it’s literally a normal crown that only looks similiar to the sticker one 💀
Or cause if you actually use your brain you would actually come to the conclusion paper jam isn’t a paper Mario game but a Mario and Luigi game
Also nice headcanons but brothership,maker and odyssey don’t care about your whines
Every Mario is pretty much the same even miyamoto has confirmed it not to mention every Mario game is mainline and also canon since it’s published by Nintendo
Except Paper Mario, Paper Jam’s existence (if canon) proves it
@ maybe I am pretty sure it is canon though just set in a parallel universe
@CLYrandoms there's a picture in the origami king in Bowser's castle that has the real life Bowser in it.
What about princess peach castle? it's also not the same thing as the original.
@@ComicBoy60s design choice, doesn't mean it's not the same. Like if peach changed to a brand new dress would that make her a different version of herself?
Mariokart could maybe even be another dimension, considering that other Nintendo characters are in it like Link and Inklings
And the Miis and villagers.
Link and the others just came into Mario world
Mario Kart is not from another dimension. When F.L.U.D. D. scans Mario for the first time in Sunshine, we can see a list of past Mario games, including Mario Kart 64 and Super Mario Kart. The Mechanic’s Outfit that’s Mario can buy in Odyssey. What’s interesting about this outfit is that it features Multiple Brands that can be found throughout the Mario Kart games, such as Mario Motors or Bowser Oil.
Peach’s Castle from Paper Mario also reappears on Rainbow Road in Mario Kart: Super Circuit. The ending of Paper Mario: Color Splash has Luigi arrive in his Standard Kart from Mario Kart 8 and at one point Bowser asks Mario if they have a kart race scheduled for that day. Dry Dry Desert from Paper Mario also appears as a racecourse in Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
In Mario's house from Superstar Saga Remake, we can see a Mario Kart trophy.
In the official Mario encyclopedia book to commemorate the 30th Anniversary, there's a section that mentions Mario's overall history and his involvement. 4 stars are mainline games, and 3 stars are major Mario games, to which each Mario Kart game has. They note that these appearances are the same Mario as he is from the mainline games.
I hope you understand why Mario Kart is Canon.
Thanks for adding the "hey, hey" to your intro again
My personal head cannon is that there are different universes with different Marios, but each of them goes through the same thing so anything that happens in Mario and Luigi could happen in paper Mario just in a completely different art style and format
This was a great video!
Yes they are the same character, the only debate being Paper Mario and normal Mario and maybe Mario + Rabbids Mario but that’s it. They’re all the same guy.
Even Mario + rabbids Mario is mainline Mario
Mario + Rabbids isn't canon, and paper mario is the same as regular mario.
@Jómagam-12345 mario + rabbids is canon and paper Mario isn’t mainline Mario
@@mynameisntimportant1374 Ok, then tell me the sources of these statements. Oh, should I tell mine first? Okay!
1. Mario + Rabbids is NOT canon, because the SupaMerge that merged Mario and the Rabbids together is only merged the rabbids with a Mario poster. There are also a lot of planets and A LOT of rabbids in thosse games we never see in others. DK island is also a different dimension in those games, and this is not the case in the games. The rabbids games were also published by Ubisoft, that can also prove that it isn't canon. And if this wouldn't be enough, the director of these games, Davide Soliani confirmed that they aren't canon! How can you prove THAT wrong?
2. The paper asthetic of the paper mario games is just an art style, and the paper moves in spm for example is just a gameplay element. There is NOTHING to suggest these games take place in ''A book dimension'' or something. If they take place in a book, then so does Dr. Mario 64, Yoshi's Story and Mario Party 6 too. Do you think those aren't canon? ''Oh, but what about Mario & Luigi Paper Jam?'' you may ask. Well, the Paper universe in that game is an excact paralell world to the main Mario world. Everything happened to ''normal'' Mario until that point, also happened to the paper one. They almost always do/think of the same thing too, like the Kameks both try to trick each other at the same time. It's nothing else taht that.
While I said why I think these are the answers, I would still like to hear why you think things differently, so feel free to say it.
@Jómagam-12345 that poster contained the Mario universe
Hastly generalization and the universe in Mario is infinite and houses infinite beings
Also you clearly never played the games the island isn’t in another dimension the supamerge just transported dk and others to another dimension
Mario and Luigi were pubblished by alphadream, paper Mario by intelligent systems and Mario rpg by square this point is totally irrelevant especially since Ubisoft had to get Nintendo permission
Death of the author and appeal to false authority soliani doesn’t believe his own authority and he left Ubisoft + his statements got debunked by the games and miyamoto himself Mario + rabbids is canon deal with it
2. Literally their entire physics but keep inventing stuff that makes you sleep at night, literally every sigle opening of every paper Mario game : …. Also yoshi story got transformed into a book it wasn’t already a book and those other two are books of the same timeline and paper Mario is a book of another dimension
Yeah yeah don’t need to ask anything since it’s clear I know more than you just like what you said “EVeRytHinG thAT hApPeneD in MariO wORlD hApPened in PapER mArIo”
Paper peach when she met starlow : who are you ?
Mario + rabbids Mario is the same as mainline Mario and paper Mario is a parallel Mario
Sorry that I was rude i just don’t like when people spread misinformation
Great Video
Super Mario: Into the Marioverse
I headcanon that the Paper Mario series is an in-universe serialization of some of Mario's stories, with details embellished or altered (Like what happened with the book of Luigi's story in TTYD). And there being different authors explains why some games were so terri- eh, different.
New year No new marios
Just you wait, guys. I'm in the process of figuring out the Mario timeline, for real this time. I'll be sure to post it on my channel sometime later.
Baby Mario is confirmed to be the same Mario from the Mario and Luigi series so… 7 to 13 Marios depending if you count the tv show, movies, comics and manga if you want the real number of how many Marios there are and that’s being conservative
Don't forget that Miyamoto said that all the Mario games are plays in universe, put on by the same actors. So when he says it is always the same Mario, he might just mean that we always see the same Mario because it is all the same actor. But in the plays themselves, they might still be separate characters. Is that needlessly confusing? Yes, absolutely.
This is Like Scooby Doo in the cyber Case talking to their computer version which is them in the Normal Scooby Doo
Remember comments can still hurt, please be nice
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@BubReaper-uj7no Yes! This is what more people need to realize in this world.
Miiyamoto himself they were all the same canonically sooo…
Miyamoto doesn't really care about continuity. I'd rather see the various spin-off series as their own separate continuities. It just makes more sense that way.
@@oliverhurt3418 some of the Mario games have call backs to past games, Mario party and Mario kart.
@@CuteRedPanda64 I like to assume that certain games that happened took place in more than one continuity. We can also say that some of said continuities have their own versions of shared characters like the Star Spirits and E. Gadd. If everything that comprised forty years worth of video games and spin-offs took place in only one continuity, the Mushroom World would be over-bloated.
In the Mario game, Cannon, he is from New Donk City, New York has pretty much been retcon out of the equation for any mainline material.
I think in the games, Mario and Luigi were born in the mushroom kingdom and the family moved to Brooklyn while they were babies
AYO BRO'S COOKING AGAIN!
Starlow is a visitor to the Mushroom Kingdom, she doesn’t live there.
She’s a star sprite and lives with the other star sprites elsewhere. Every game where she’s appeared in is because she’s visiting.
All Marios are the same Mario, with the partial exception of Paper Mario. The adventures Paper Mario goes on are adaptations of real adventures Mainline Mario did, with games like SPM, SS and CS probably being original books.
Perhaps the Next 3D Mario will be Super Mario Dimensions.
I like to say this paper Mario is call Mario's story in Japan meaning it's a story based on the cannon event plus Luigi dairy mentions the spin off games and is very meta mention the Nintendo 64 and the game itself making them have self awareness
Sometimes he has red overalls and a blue shirt instead of blue overalls and red shirt
Everyone can change clothes.
still is the same mario himself
He just changed his clothes like in odyssey.
Mario: Into the Mario-verse
I loved this. Could you do more videos where you talked about Mario games?
Paper Mario is definitely NOT the same Mario
I believe each Mario is the same, except Paper Mario is a separate entity that lives in books of mushroom kingdom that has separate adventures, but the first games were retellings of the real mario’s stories
I think that in general every Mario is the same Mario, with differences being from different creative visions for each game. If even mainline Mario games can contradict each other but still be considered the same universe, this is just a universe that's flexible in its portrayal. I see modern Paper Mario as a separate universe partially out of bitterness at how hard it rejects the very strong continuity of the first 3 games, but also because it takes the paper stuff literally in the story, compared to only ever using it in a magical context or just for visual flair in the older games (in other words, I feel like Paper Mario was flanderized after Super Paper Mario).
I don't think the storybook intros in the first 3 games literally mean this entire world is physically inside a book, they're just a quirky visual tool to introduce the story to us. Considering Paper Jam uses content from ONLY Sticker Star and no other game, I see no reason to claim it makes a statement about the first 3 games. As far as I'm concerned the events of the first 3 Paper Mario games and the characters involved in them canonically happened in the same Mario world we see in the mainline games, as did Super Mario RPG and the Mario & Luigi games, and any visual or design differences comes down to the creators having different ideas for how to portray the world. SMRPG may look particularly distinct, but there's no practical reason we can't treat it the same way we treat Peach's Castle & Toad Town's layout changing every game, and sometimes Toad Town being erased entirely. The Mushroom Kingdom is an island in Odyssey but not in other games, does that make Odyssey its own timeline?
I'll concede that other than modern Paper Mario/Paper Jam's Paper Mario, Movie Mario is also different enough to be noncanon, just because of the whole Yoshi's Island vs Brooklyn thing as well as Donkey Kong's lineage and the existence of Donkey Kong Jr. And Mario+Rabbids because of developer statements and it being a crossover. But pretty much everything else, I say there's no reason not to believe a version of it canonically happened in the mainline world. Yes even Hotel Mario. And despite Movie Mario's differences to Game Mario, I still want to see expansive representation of the games, including the RPGs, adapted into the movie universe.
“Modern” paper Mario is the same paper Mario and Mario + rabbids is in the mainline timeline not only soliani doesn’t believe his own authority his claims get debunked by the games themselves
2:22 This guy played through Mario n Luigi Paper Jam TWICE
0:00 “every hoods the same…. Every hoods the same!” -ice cube
Listen to this theory I have: I believe the Paper Mario world is the same book, and if we're following release order, Super Paper Mario was right before Mario Galaxy. So when Rosalina says "The cycle doesn't always repeat itself the same way" after the big bang, THAT'S when the Paper Mario book and the worlds within were changed. This also explains how there's still a Star Festival in Galaxy 2. The year of the comet was likely altered. And finally it could imply that Rosalina is from a previous incarnation of the universe which would make sense as to how she knows so much about it.
I genuinely want to know if anyone else has ever thought about this theory.
I will explain how Mario from the other games are the same Mario...
The Mechanic’s Outfit that’s Mario can buy in Super Mario Odyssey. What’s interesting about this outfit is that it features Brands that can be found throughout the Mario Kart games, such as Mario Motors or Bowser Oil.
It is revealed in Mario Sunshine that Professor E. Gadd built both F.L.U.D.D. and the Magic Paintbrush, meaning that the Professor and therefore Luigi’s Mansion are canon. The Poltergust 4000 also appears in Mario Kart DS, between the Poltergust 3000 of Luigi’s Mansion and the Poltergust 5000 of Luigi’s Mansion: Dark Moon.
When F.L.U.D. D. scans Mario in Sunshine, we can see Super Mario Kart and Mario Kart 64 as one of past Mario games alongside Mainline Mario games.
The sports games are canon thanks to some character descriptions on Nintendo’s website. In Mario’s character description, it states “these amazing athletic skills are put to good use in a variety of sports, like tennis, baseball, soccer and even auto racing. Mario may be a sporting superstar, but his main interest, of course, is keeping his beloved Princess Peach safe and away from the clutches of Bowser.” For Peach’s description it notes that “when she’s not being bothered by bad guys, Peach enjoys baking cakes, playing tennis, and hanging out with her pal, Mario.” In the description for Wrecking Crew in NES Nintendo Switch Online it says “In the days before Mario & Luigi became sports stars in their downtime from saving the Princess, they tried their hands as one-man Wrecking Crews.”
The Mario & Luigi series is next, and we’ll start off with Mario’s House in Superstar Saga 3DS Remake. In this house, we can see Mario’s tennis racket and golf club from the Mario Tennis and Mario Golf games respectively. We also see a Mario Kart trophy, as well as Mario’s Outfit from Wrecking Crew.
Professor E. Gadd’s Lab from Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time also reappears as the bunker in Luigi’s Mansion 2: Dark Moon.
The Geno doll from Super Mario RPG reappears in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, meaning that Super Mario RPG is also canon.
Speaking of SMRPG. When Mario walks behind a curtained section in Booster Tower, he emerges as the 8-Bit Sprite from SMB NES. The Koopa Clown Car (SMW) reappears in the introductory cutscene and finally. Magikoopa's Psychopath message references Kamek's involvement with the events of the game. His thought is 「キイーッウキイーーッ！ あの時の赤んぼう！？」 (Kiii ukiii! The baby from that time!?) in the Japanese version, which refers to recognizing the adult Mario. His thought is "That's...my child?" in the English version, which instead refers to Bowser, whom Kamek and the Toadies helped raise since a baby.
The Official Mario Encyclopedia book. There's a section that mentions Mario's overall history and his involvement. 4 stars are mainline games, and 3 stars are major Mario games, to which each Mario Spin-Off game has. They note that these appearances are the same Mario as he is from the mainline games.
That references are supported by Miyamoto. Miyamoto confirmed Mario is always the same Mario in most Mario games and its spin-offs.
You can read Paper Mario Canonicty blog from The Codex Wiki and SuperBearNeo's blog from Omniversal Battlefield Wiki explaining how Paper Mario games are Canon. I hope you can understand that all Mario games are Canon.
Remember, Paper Mario's Canonicity blog debunked The Book Argument, The Paper Argument and the Paper Jam arguments to prove the world in Paper Jam is NOT RELATED to the Paper games if Intelligent Systems didn't developed Paper Jam.
I can explain how Mario + Rabbids is Canon: The Phantom mentions Donkey Kong Arcade in his song (The Phantom of the Bwahpera) which references the fact that it is Mario's first appearance. The wallpaper in the laboratory in the introductory cutscene is a scene from SMB NES. The Phantom says "your princess is in another castle" in his song, which is derived from a quote from SMB. When the Rabbids' Time Washing Machine malfunctions in the introductory cutscene, sprites of Super Mushrooms, ? Blocks, and Mario taken from SMB3 can be seen on the number displays.
During the Phantom's song, he mentions Mario Kart series and describes a scenario in which Mario is in first place and doing well until he gets hit by a Spiny Shell. A poster featuring artwork from New SMB DS appears in the introductory cutscene. During the ending of Sparks of Hope, Rosalina mentions she once went looking for her family, referencing her storybook.
I hope you understand well the Mario Canon. The Mario Movie and Smash would be different Marios.
Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam answers our question here
Well, you clearly don't know what your talking about, since all paper mario games are clearly in the same universe, and in fact, they are almost all in the same universe, you just separated some, so now I have to fix the canon myself
Yep. Except the ones from actually different continuities, like the movie and cartoons.
yeah there's no physical way it's all the same Mario
The reason why Miyamoto said they are all the same Mario, is because of the universal resets that happen from time to time according to Super Mario Galaxy (same souls, just recycled) The only exception to this is the Paper universe.
I saw this video name and thought...
Mario & Luigi Paper Jam
Edit: Accidental prediction.
The idea of a multiverse with different versions of the same character hasn't been trendy all the time, it just became popular recently with Marvel, and we frame everything as a multiverse but that doesn't represent how stories were conceived back then.
I see Mario's characters more like Tom & Yerry in their old show, each episode is a completely different story using the same characters. Some times the characters even died during the story but the next episode they just forgot everything.
That doesn't mean that there was a multiverse nor anything like that, it could be seen as a multiverse, but the idea it's more simple and don't require all that complex explanation: it's more like having a character with official appareance and traits but none of the stories related to that character are canon. Just enjoy one story for what it is and forget about that one next time.
Miyamoto once said that he sees his characters like a troupe of actors, I think that's inline with this interpretation.
Answer: No
Argument: Mario & Luigi Paper Jam. Mario alongside Paper Mario
RIP prince florian
mario rpg has been around for quite some time so I understand if you think that its a different mario from a different timeline, I remember it coming out in like 1998 or 1996 so maybe it was supposed to be a demo version of the castle so therfore, its probably not a different timeline and its just a remastered version before, like how pacman went from 2d to 3d, same difference.
I’ve accepted Mario origins is with Yoshi and when it comes to early arcade games ( whether is be his dad or bot in the og donkey kong ), that’s all in new donk city. George the bros moved back to mushroom kingdom
Okay, so now we need a timeline and see how many splits it has ...
1:18 i am dying 😂
FINALLY a video NOT about the Switch 2. Is it really so hard, man?
You’ve commented this on 4 videos in the last 2 weeks LMAO
1:17 I like how you had a picture of an SMG4 video here.
The only Mario's that could be different are Paper Mario and any non-game Mario.
The Mario from the animated movie, the live-action movie, and the TV series are all seperate continuities.
As for Paper Mario, Paper Jam pretty much confirmed they are two different individuals with the lore being Paper Mario's world is inside a book in Peach's Castle.
9:40 Mario RPG was developed before many of the characters and places of the Mario franchise were established, that's the reason of the creative differences. Is that a different universe? it's a way to see it, but I'm pretty sure they just don't cared about continuity.
Even in the mainline Mario games they are not consistent, since Mario 64, Peach's Castle have had a very similar layout, however it hasn't been exactly the same, same could be said about Toad Town, and probably many other elements. From the point of view of the creators they have just beeing using the same characters wihout a well established continuity. That doesn't mean they are different versions of the same Mario.
6:35 in Origami King there are some portraits of older Paper Mario games, in Peach's ship.
I can't help but notice the VERY subtle Sticker Star hate...
Super Mario's are a species just like toads, yoshis, goombas, etc.
Mario Multiverse are connected is confirmed to be canon
Yes Mario is a popular guy of all time
I’m pretty sure the only one that isn’t the same Mario is Paper Mario…. Everyone of the other ones are the actual same Mario
I'd believe that. He's the only one to have been shown to be a separate character
@graysonproductions6227I’m pretty sure Paper Mario and his universe are story book retellings of adventures Mario actually went on.
I think that paper mario happens in an alternative universe inside a book. That is because Mario and Luigi Paper Jam
Something tells me that, when designing Peach's Castle in SM64, the devs just completely forgot about SMRPG.
They were developed at the same time and also smrpg was made by square enix and at that time there weren't much depiction of her castle soooo...
Fair point
1. Aren't Parakarry and Goombella name dropped in Sticker Star? In the trash heap, there are some letters I'm pretty sure. Goombella's talks about her visiting Chomp Ruins or something like that. Did I imagine that? If I didn't, that would mean that all Paper Mario's are in fact the same Paper Mario.
2. Whacka is from Paper Mario 64, they just appeared again in The Thousand Year Door
Mario & Luigi: Into the Marioverse
I know a spanish youtuber called Pepe el mago who create a Mario cronology that Is crazy
Before watching: Honestly I think there's 2 Marios across the games, Mario and Paper Mario. I say this because Paper Mario is the only version that literally CAN'T be the same a la Paper Jam and for a multitude of other reasons, namely the fact that "real" Mario definitely shouldn't be able to crunch and fold himself into a paper airplane for example. Obviously the movie Marios are different too.
I think the paper Marios are the same, in Origami King on the Princess Peach boat, there is a picture of Peach from each Paper Mario game
my head cannon is that all the marios are the same expect the paper marios, i mainly believe this because of paper jam,
I think this has been the same Mario since the super Mario super show in 1985. 🤔❓😍😍😍💯
I just know that Mario’s real origin is that he is from New York and that yoshi’s island is non canon as if it is just a different timeline aka a different reality
Super Mario RPG did predate Super Mario 64, and the remake is mostly faithful to the original SNES game than trying to make it match later Mario games. In the case of Yoshi’s Island (and Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time), Super Mario Odyssey’s New Donk City appears to have replaced New York as the canon hometown of Mario and Luigi, so Mario and Luigi lived in the Mushroom Kingdom in their youth, but at some point the Mario family moved to the Metro Kingdom.
Hats off to you for making a different video!
But I still gotta say it like I said I would…
Day 2 asking what ya’ll want to see from Nin10doland.
If you keep making videos like this; then I’ll know that I can stop; I’ll do it anyway after Nintendo FINALLY reveals their new console.
I mean if Shiger Miyamoto said it's the same mario i will say the same
(The next morning)
Miyamoto: I'm bowser Jr's mom
Me: WHAT THE %@£&= THAT'S CANNON!? no ima gonna yeet now
Actually Wacka’s were in the original Paper Mario too.
6:23 origami king has pictures of Princess Peach from other games in the Princess Peach ship area.