Mike has masters in math and physics. Seriously Mike what did you do earlier? Big fan, great content. I'm math+physics major and Motorsport enthusiast, love the way you explain the physics of it.
I can rewatch your videos as my riding progresses and keep pulling good stuff from them. Thanks for doing this - riding the only thing that makes me happy
I needed to pause the video some times to be on the same page ✅, but this is very well explained. 💯 A little bit confusing if you hear it for the first time 😯, but it was broken down very sharply. 👌
You’re channel has helped me so much, thank you truly. I’m not able to ride for the winter being I’m in Canada but your channel is definitely helping me with the withdrawals while giving me a lot of information to help me on the track for the next season
I was surprised to learn that the coefficient of friction increases with decreased mass of bike+rider. I've always wanted to try out one of the old two stroke 125s or 250s to feel that weight advantage through the corners and the raw two stroke power. I rode my new-to-me cbr600rr for the first time at BW a few weeks ago, and I definitely felt slow through the corners because of the weight. Feeling that butter smooth 600cc power, though... it blew my mind!
You can buy one. They are $16000. Honda NSF 250. You can buy a GSXR 150 in Mexico for about $3000. I had one in the Philippines, they weigh about 285lbs. So much fun.
Hi Mike! I've been breaking in an electric Zero DSR for delivery work, but your videos has me dreaming of supermoto! Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on electric... instant torque, no shifting, 0-60 in 2.6 in a 420lb body. The Zero FXS looks even better, designed for supermoto. Your keen insight would be great to breakdown the pros/cons of electric for racing. Have you ridden a Zero?
Can a pedal bike out corner a motorcycle? If you could tow a pushbike up to say 100 kmh on a tight twisty downhill mountain road. would it be able to carry more of this speed through the corners and possibly overtake a motorcycle? after all It would be way lighter compared to the motorcycle with extremely narrow tires. good things for corner speed by all accounts.
A pedal bike setup for those speeds yes. The pedals would have to be lifted up so that enough lean angle can be carried, we would need tires designed for that speed and expected lean angles, so we would have to get custom made ones. We would also have to beef up the wheels to deal with the much higher loads we would see from hitting bumps at those speeds. We would also have to change the rake/trail so the bicycle doesn’t start to wobble. We would also have to beef up the brakes so they don’t fade. Etc... At the end of the day we would essentially have a motorcycle without an engine in it. This ‘bicycle’ would be able to corner faster than a motorcycle.
hello mike, thank you for you beautfiul explanaitions, i'm currently trying to come up with a bike design and i'm becoming very interested in motorcycle dynamics, would you please give me the complete formula that you used to calculate corner speed, i'm particuarly interested in the height of the CoG in relation to the wheelbase and how tall the CoG is on a good bike (stock superbike or supersport)
Is the ratio of the bike to rider weight important? A very light rider on a very heavy bike would find it more difficult and slower to get the bike to lean as they approach the corner.
@@thereal_tad3559 Good reply. Having read the wiki article on it I see you’re right, although there is also something called Countersteering by weight shifting which works better on light bikes (so I was a little bit right)!
I really want to understand this, but it makes no sense. You mention a u-value of 1.5. However, you have no u-value in the formula. In the formula you have μ and Fn, which you don't offer values for. Could you please clarify?
Surface area has no relation to friction/grip. The only reason for bigger tires are, needing to support the weight and having more mass to absorb the heat caused by stronger acceleration ( heavier bike usually means stronger motor)
Excuse me Mike, but I know MotoGPs have a minimum weight of about 150 kgs... how can Suzuki have made a bike with a weight lower than rules allow? Maybe I misunderstood something
Low GP classes (for sure the old 125 GP, not sure about Moto3) had a minimum bike+rider weight. With bigger bikes small riders have strength issues, like Pedrosa had his whole career
if only Math teachers would have used subjects of things we might understand and had interest in, like motorbikes, well explained Mike
That is exactly why i like physics, a lot of it can be used and experienced every day, explaining common phenomenon logically.
Learn algebra, then you can learn physics. Physics (mechanics at least) is all algebra. This topic is quarter 1 of Engineering Physics.
@@mattf2535 I’ll only learn algebra if Mike is the teacher
Mike has masters in math and physics.
Seriously Mike what did you do earlier? Big fan, great content. I'm math+physics major and Motorsport enthusiast, love the way you explain the physics of it.
I can rewatch your videos as my riding progresses and keep pulling good stuff from them. Thanks for doing this - riding the only thing that makes me happy
I needed to pause the video some times to be on the same page ✅, but this is very well explained. 💯
A little bit confusing if you hear it for the first time 😯, but it was broken down very sharply. 👌
It’s ok, just like with the rest of Mike’s videos you can simple watch it over and over and over again
You’re channel has helped me so much, thank you truly. I’m not able to ride for the winter being I’m in Canada but your channel is definitely helping me with the withdrawals while giving me a lot of information to help me on the track for the next season
I was surprised to learn that the coefficient of friction increases with decreased mass of bike+rider. I've always wanted to try out one of the old two stroke 125s or 250s to feel that weight advantage through the corners and the raw two stroke power. I rode my new-to-me cbr600rr for the first time at BW a few weeks ago, and I definitely felt slow through the corners because of the weight. Feeling that butter smooth 600cc power, though... it blew my mind!
Nicely said man... Keep doing this kind of videos
I wish they would sell Moto3 bikes to the public to try on the track or a safe variant for the streets. Great stuff man, really loving your videos.
You can buy one. They are $16000. Honda NSF 250. You can buy a GSXR 150 in Mexico for about $3000. I had one in the Philippines, they weigh about 285lbs. So much fun.
3:27 drawing skill level 999+
Always a pleasure to watch your videos mike
straight up, no bollocks, love it
100% correct! Thank you! 👍😎🇦🇺
man i love your videos
pls keep it going
Hi Mike! I've been breaking in an electric Zero DSR for delivery work, but your videos has me dreaming of supermoto! Would be interesting to hear your thoughts on electric... instant torque, no shifting, 0-60 in 2.6 in a 420lb body. The Zero FXS looks even better, designed for supermoto. Your keen insight would be great to breakdown the pros/cons of electric for racing. Have you ridden a Zero?
Nice touch by showcasing the cossalter 😄
Thanks again for your knowledge question.... Best motorcycle grade oil for winter months
Thats why triumph Daytona are good at corners.
Laughs in KTM Duke 690
Tzr250r : hold my beer
Aprilia RS 250 would like to have a word...
Honda rs125r...157 lbs...42hp...140mph--- BYE BYE!
I have a 2014 675R trackday bike and i wouldn't trade it for anything!
Can a pedal bike out corner a motorcycle? If you could tow a pushbike up to say 100 kmh on a tight twisty downhill mountain road. would it be able to carry more of this speed through the corners and possibly overtake a motorcycle? after all It would be way lighter compared to the motorcycle with extremely narrow tires. good things for corner speed by all accounts.
A pedal bike setup for those speeds yes. The pedals would have to be lifted up so that enough lean angle can be carried, we would need tires designed for that speed and expected lean angles, so we would have to get custom made ones. We would also have to beef up the wheels to deal with the much higher loads we would see from hitting bumps at those speeds. We would also have to change the rake/trail so the bicycle doesn’t start to wobble. We would also have to beef up the brakes so they don’t fade. Etc...
At the end of the day we would essentially have a motorcycle without an engine in it. This ‘bicycle’ would be able to corner faster than a motorcycle.
@@MikeonBikes Thanks for your answer, Keep up the good work.
There's nothing quite like taking my RC390 out to a B-Group session on the track and passing a Super Duke 1290R repeatedly 😏
Now that is how you end a video!
Alright now Imma gonna buy a 50cc and shame every1 on the track
Turbo 50 😂
There's a video of that exactly, a small cc bike vs several sportbikes but in a small curvy karting circuit. Done by the japanese obviously.
@@_desertork1839 do you know the title of the video or where we can find it
Thanks Mike. What doesn’t quite square with me is that mu increase as the weight decreases.
Is there a way to,see the full footage off that trackday?
Not sure if you've already done this but could you make a video on hot to set a bike up for track, suspension and tyres
Thanks!
Nice explanation mike👌❣️
from nepal🇳🇵❤️
Load sensitivity of the coefficient of friction is the same reason wider car tires grip better.
Brilliant Mike.. I keep telling my biker mates to stop adding carbon and actually lose some body weight which is free
And more healthy
hello mike, thank you for you beautfiul explanaitions, i'm currently trying to come up with a bike design and i'm becoming very interested in motorcycle dynamics, would you please give me the complete formula that you used to calculate corner speed, i'm particuarly interested in the height of the CoG in relation to the wheelbase and how tall the CoG is on a good bike (stock superbike or supersport)
If math was taught like this in high-school, I would've paid attention
finally all of my questions are answered
Need 150 to 206 mph corn, enter n exit speed. Bike balance gotta stylish similar to ktm yall shown : 500cc with power band 1000cc
What bike model is light bike in video?
Yes y'all got cad make this possible! Tensile strength
Awesome video love from FabzRustRider 💯
Is the ratio of the bike to rider weight important? A very light rider on a very heavy bike would find it more difficult and slower to get the bike to lean as they approach the corner.
Tailspin80 I that the rider’s mass doesn’t initiate the lean, counter steering does. I could be wrong though.
@@thereal_tad3559 Good reply. Having read the wiki article on it I see you’re right, although there is also something called Countersteering by weight shifting which works better on light bikes (so I was a little bit right)!
Can anyone share the link of that adv bike going through corners?
I had to go back when you said total mass was 237 kg... I didnt hear you add the bike, in my head (me + gear =... no way hes crazy) 😂
I was waiting for this video for long time❤️❤️thank youu. I have question, how can I light my bike? What part of my bike can i remove?
The engine
replace the exhaust system with a lighter one
@@jishnuknair9193 @Marco Donadi thanks guys for quick reply
@@marcodonadi4318 hehehe
Battery, push start 😊
Ohey, its once again against the law to look that damn good!
"How did you overtake me on the track?" -"Math and physics"
Thanks sir
Hello I'm following you .... but can you activate the French subtitles if possible.😉
I really want to understand this, but it makes no sense. You mention a u-value of 1.5. However, you have no u-value in the formula. In the formula you have μ and Fn, which you don't offer values for. Could you please clarify?
True. Rode a Cagiva Mito. 120kg, two stroke. Great cornering but way worse than my downhill bike at 18kg.
ZXR400 Baby! :-)
I drove a Kawasaki ZXR 400 for 2 years and then I bought a Honda CBR 900RR. Honda is fast in corners.
Can i just ask why do lighter bikes have skinner tires. Why don't they use fatter tire wouldn't that have more grip?
Surface area has no relation to friction/grip. The only reason for bigger tires are, needing to support the weight and having more mass to absorb the heat caused by stronger acceleration ( heavier bike usually means stronger motor)
Waiting for your new video
Brandon Paasch😍😍
It's a E=MC squared thing...
Excuse me Mike, but I know MotoGPs have a minimum weight of about 150 kgs... how can Suzuki have made a bike with a weight lower than rules allow?
Maybe I misunderstood something
It was likely just an example.
@@tuomasheikkinen9251 Ahhhh, okay... Mmm, effectively It could be...
4:01 I didn't get that one
Nice
I never saw that coming! Haha Dirt bike eating the sportbikes :D
I'm pretty sure that Greek letter is pronounced "myuu". Anyway, great video!
Yeah, in english maybe.
My KTM 690SM was great for that, until everyone I pass in the corner passes me on the next straight and I have to pass them again and again.
Find a sweetspot
@@kiranfelix5799 street triple
I don't know what is going on here but it's like when urkle used science to when at Billiards
Fockin hell mate...you just scramble my 🧠 brain..I'm so confused now ..I'm not able to ride my bike anymore
....fokin science.
🤮😂😂😂😂
I reject your reality and substitute my own. *Rides off on his DRZ*
And this is how a PhD thesis is done! 😅
i am learning so mutch from u. can u adopt me?
Serious math is going on in MotoGP
Those GSXrr is lighter than my 150cc wtf...
Damn need to lose some weight around 30kg to go^^ Keto is my savior
which explains why moto3 is faster around corners than motogp?
No Funny intro :-(
In moto gp min weight is 160kg not 120 so what r u talking bout :)
It's only an example to demonstrate the point that he's trying to make about lighter weight.
Mike, you go too fast!!!! Old, reduce the speaking speed....it's too fast to understand all and we'll ..please!!!
Every motorsport without weight handicap is a scam, you might as well put toddlers on bikes to reduce weight.
Low GP classes (for sure the old 125 GP, not sure about Moto3) had a minimum bike+rider weight.
With bigger bikes small riders have strength issues, like Pedrosa had his whole career