How to Test Yourself for Golfer’s Elbow
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Here are three tests that can be done to determine if you actually have golfer’s elbow. If you have pain on the inside of your elbow and suspect golfers elbow, give these tests a try. If a test reproduces your familiar symptoms, then it is considered positive.
1. Tendon Palpation
2. Tendon Stretch Test
3. Tendon Load Test
I have permanent hot pain on touching the bone, right and left arm but when I do these tests I don’t have any increased painful sensations but my hand and all fingers become very numb and tingly. By the way I absolutely love your content and channel I honestly think this is the best series I’ve come across 🎉 grateful viewer in the UK
It sounds like your symptoms may be more nerve related. I would recommend trying the exercises in my ulnar nerve video below. Just be careful to add these exercises gradually because if you do too much, they can make the nerve flare up. ua-cam.com/video/rvrtapqpuPw/v-deo.htmlsi=DwiBYA_g6xOG2XBk
Thank you for this 😍 can you do a video what's good exercise for the elbow please 😊
I will do more elbow ones soon!
The third test caused a burning pain in that area for me, and a lot of tennis elbow tests also cause the same type of pain in that area for me. However, the first two tests didn't cause pain in the elbow but they caused pain in the wrist. That area and the rest of my arm has been feeling extremely sore with aching and burning sensations. I also had this same issue about 2 months ago but it went away for around a month and the pain just resurfaced. Could this still be golfer's/tennis elbow or is it more likely something else?
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Thank you so much for ordering my book! When elbow contractures develop, they can be very difficult to overcome. This joint becomes very stiff at times, and regaining full elbow extension is almost impossible for some people. In these cases, I would spend time mobilizing the elbow joint and passively stretching the joint into extension with manual pressure.
@@RehabScience I've followed your rehab routines and minimized pain, but I still not mobile 100% going fully straight. Do you have stretches to recommend?
I feel pain on the second test, but it’s a sharp pain in the back of my elbow and only occurs in the motion of extending it and not when holding it. Any idea of what this could be
Would you recommend doing these tests wrapped, or unwrapped? I had my elbow wrapped up while doing these tests and didn't feel much of a result. Experiencing sharp pain on the muscle right above the medial epicondyle
Both my arms are unbearably sore these stretches really helped
Glad to hear the video was helpful!
I have an internal scar tissue injury in my wrists, forearms, elbows, and shoulders from repetitive injury and overuse and lifting heavy and playing very athletic sports like football. The pain started in my wrist in about mid way through April and has gotten worse slowly it is now in all the spots I listed and now it is almost October. The osteopath I’m going to is saying they have to break it all up been there 3 times see no difference the pain is not bad for a week then gets super bad for 3 days then when I wake up it feels good again it’s so weird, I get lots of pain in my tricep area and the tendons that connect to my elbow and in the spot you get tennis elbow and golfers elbow I am 15 and don’t know what to do I had to stop working and it is even hard to go to school have any tips or anything I just want anything advice. It’s in both Arms
Interesting, I don't seem to have a golfer's elbow. All tests failed. Thanks. My research continues.
the pain was only on fist test other remaining test i didn't felt any pain so is that just cause i overuse my elbow too much?
i do sport calishthenics so is that normal?
Hey man I have no pain with these tests and minimal pain throughout the day but i feel a sharp elbow pain when bench pressing or doing triceps pushdowns
When pain is less severe, these test may not produce pain. Since you have pain with those movements, I would recommend incorporating the exercises in my golfer’s elbow video. Here is a link to that video: ua-cam.com/video/dDZhNzKV7tA/v-deo.html
@@RehabScience thanks appreciate it, Im an undergad exercise science student pre-pt route and I love your videos for learning some info
I have some with the 2nd test but none with the 1st. The motion of holding my hand flat and push down on the finger tips causes pain but it's an ich or two towards the wrist and not right at the elbow. Muscle tear?
This could point toward a muscle strain as tendon pain typically occurs right at the inside of the elbow.
Excuse me pls help me im nervous i have been using my fixed gear bike and i have practicing skids and part of the process is leaning in your body and putting you pelvis in the stem of the handle bar and its been giving my inner elbow some pain, but when i stop doing activities it becomes pretty normal but when i return to biking the pain is sometimes unbearable and its so sharp and its not just my elbow feeling pain my whole fore arm and my pain is not in the inside of the elbow its in. The outer pls help
Hey, 3rd test seems to be reversed Cozen's test, does the 2nd also has its specific name or is it your invention? :)
They are both commonly reported tests, but do not appear to have more specific names.
Thanks for the video! I am having intermittent pain on the inside of my elbow, but none of these tests cause pain. Is there anything else that might come to mind? Also, is it OK to continue doing exercises like controlled pull-ups if I don't feel pain while doing them (assuming my pain is tendon-related)?
In some cases, the tests don’t reproduce the persons symptoms. If you don’t have radiating nerve pain, then the pain is most likely related to these tendons. I would try working gradually on wrist flexor, finger flexor, and grip strength and see if your symptoms improve. Yes, it’s OK to keep doing pull-ups as long as you don’t feel like they are exacerbating the issue. Pull-ups are known to aggravate this area, so you may need to back off on the volume of them temporarily until the tendon desensitizes.
@@RehabScience many thanks!
@@RehabScience one more question, if you don't mind. I stopped doing pull-ups for now, but are there any issues doing straight-arm exercises like planks? I saw some content saying that these should be avoided with tennis elbow, but not sure if the logic also holds for golfer's elbow?
What if I literally can’t straitened my arm when doing the first test, I’m doing the stretch how you said but I feel a sharp pain when 3/4 of the way to strait and I can’t go passed there. It hurts in the same place you labeled, but I am wanting to know what to do and if you know what it is that is wrong with me.
This is quite common when the tendon is irritated. People won’t be able to straighten the elbow all the way because of pain. Just move as far as you can without causing more than mild pain. You would also want to focus on the tendon strengthening exercises in my golfer’s elbow rehab video.
@@RehabScience ok, thanks for letting me know
@@bradyr20_41 how long did yours take to heal?
thanks
You’re welcome!
I have pain in that general area but test negative in the tests, I dont knw what to do anymore
If you haven’t had a recent injury, it’s unlikely that the MCL ligament is injured. Also, if you don’t have numbness or tingling, it’s unlikely that the ulnar nerve is irritated. So, it would probably be the flexor tendons. Sometimes, these tests aren’t positive, but the person’s symptoms match with golfers elbow. You might want to see an orthopedic PT if you can’t get ahead of the pain.
so iam having this problem for quite some time, whenever i try to straighten my arm after doing any work that is elbow related my elbow starts to crack, and iam also feeling mild pain in the same areas as you explained. so pls can you help me and tell why is it that i have a elbow cracking symptom, do i have some other problen too??
It’s hard for me to say without performing evaluation. However, when the tendon is irritated, sometimes the joint will crack more, so it could be associated with this problem.
When I raise my arms in front and behind, the sound of the bones comes out it’s like “TAG TAG” sound. BTW I am going to gym.
The musculoskeletal system often makes noises in the absence of pathology. If it doesn’t hurt to move your shoulders and you haven’t had a recent trauma, then I wouldn’t stress too much about the noise.
Good quick video🤙
Glad you liked it!
When I do the resistance with a open palm it hurts like crazy but closed fist nothing.
Open palm stresses the finger flexor tendons more, which attach in the same spot. I would start the exercises with a closed fist and work towards an open hand position. It would also be a good idea to work your grip strength as this will help strengthen the finger flexors.
@@RehabScience awesome thanks!!!
I need your help please. I've had GF for 2 months now and I'm almost pain free during all these tests. But I sometimes feel a wired feeling around that area, I can't say if it is pain or it is just my mind.
I would try implementing the exercises in my golfers elbow rehab video and see if that weird feeling goes away.
@@RehabScienceThank you for replying! I'm currently doing them. The feeling goes away but when I'm at rest it comes back. May it be a sign that the tendon is healing and that's why I have this feeling?
I don't have golfers elbow but the 3rd test produces pain medially in my ulna just below the wrist, what is that supposed to be?
You may be feeling pain in the other tendon of these muscles. The flexor carpi ulnaris muscle attaches on the inside of the elbow and down on the inside of the wrist since it helps move the hand.
Is pronation moving the fist? inwards or outwards
It’s rotating the forearm inwards.
so i tested positive for the second only and it was very minor pain what does that entail?
A positive test on any of these suggest that implementing strengthening exercises for the wrist and finger flexors would be beneficial. I have a golfers elbow rehab video that would be good for you to check out.
i have no pain in any of these tests but it hurts in that area when i throw like a baseball or i am pushing on my hand do u know what that could mean?
and also i have no tenderness anywhere it feels normal doing anything besides those two activities
It’s hard to say without more information. Can you explain what you mean by ‘pushing on your hand’?
when your arm is by your side and your palm is facing inward towards your body. And you are going to be pushing against your other hand. it kind of looks like you are about to dive into a pool. that is when it hurts or of course throwing a baseball
What if the pain is between elbow and triceps?
It could be the ulnar nerve, but you would typically also have numbness and tingling. Otherwise, the primary structures would be a portion of the triceps, the anconeus muscle or the wrist flexors muscles in this video.
I was armwrestling and heared a loud painful pop i can move my elbow but whenever I face my palm/elbow facing the ceiling it hurts
You may have injured your biceps brachii muscle. The biceps brachii bends the elbow and supinates the forearm (turns the palm toward the ceiling). If the tendon was fully torn, you would notice a balling up of your bicep. If this hasn't occurred, you have only suffered a partial tear. An MRI would help figure out what is going on.
@@RehabScience Would waiting two weeks for it to heal be sufficient and if that does not work a trip to the Clinic would be the best choice?
Meh, only the second one slightly indicated it. I'm so fed up with my "specialist" doctor right now. Can't figure out a solution to get rid of this all with therapy, so I'm demanding FMLA to allow my tendons to rest.
Unfortunately, rest doesn’t get rid of tendinopathy. A few days of rest will allow the tendons to calm down, but, after that, it is imperative that you start loading/strengthening the wrist flexor muscles and their tendons. I have a recent golfer’s elbow rehab post under my elbow playlist that shows these rehab exercises.
@@RehabScience interesting. Perhaps I'm just not loading them frequent enough. Anytime I stretch or work them out it seems to just aggrevate and inflame more. My therapy sessions only included scraping and ultrasounding with a steroid being applied topically. Sure hope I didn't waste weeks and lots of money by not strengthening and loading, because we sure didn't do any of that this last round.
@@420 I'm sorry to hear that is all that has been done this round of PT. The evidence is pretty clear that when it comes to tendon pain, resistance training/loading should be the primary emphasis. Unfortunately, the interventions you mentioned have almost no support in the research. Resistance training does require a fair bit of specific prescription though as overdoing it can flare things up and not loading enough can lead to a plateau in one's improvements. It's very much a trial and error process. I would recommend trying the strengthening exercises in my golfer's elbow rehab video and implementing them one at a time to see how your body responds. It is okay to have mild (4/10) pain during the movements as long as your baseline pain isn't worse the next morning. Hope that makes sense!
So, I have golfers elbow. Thank you.
Here are exercises that typically help.
ua-cam.com/video/yTPQEW1aTTI/v-deo.htmlsi=TiO3AwjP9xANxrMq
3rd test didn't work on me.
Not all tests will be positive for everyone when dealing with this issue.
I don’t feel the pain around that bone I feel it right in the centre of the inner elbow radiating down to snd around my inner wrist. Sometimes going up to my shoulder 😞makes it quite weak at times
Those symptoms sound more like your ulnar nerve or a referral pattern from your neck. You should try the exercises in my arm nerve pain video.
how to fix this problem
See my elbow playlist for the rehab video on this condition.