I kind of figured that Charizard’s negative attitude after evolution played into souring Bulbasaur’s perspective on the issue, wanting to stay small and humble rather than turn on its trainer out of arrogance
Bulbasaur is #1 for a reason. It is easily the most broken starter in Kanto. The secondary poison typing means that you don't live in fear of Weedle. You get Sleep Powder by level up, which makes catching a billion times easier. You get your final evolution at level 32 instead of 36. About the only place where Venusaur is slightly lacking is coverage moves in the earlier gens, but since you have Sleep Powder to help you catch all the OP mons you need for a killer team, they become your coverage.
When I came back to Pokemon in the 2010s, I remember hearing people constantly talking about how choosing the Bulbasaur line for your starter was playing R/B/FR/LG/Y on easy mode. It blew my mind...
@@Neoman679 venusaur cant sweep teams as well. Does not stand a chance if someone know its weaknesses itll go down in first turn. On the other hand if someond has a flying type a grass type and a dragon type on a team blastoise will sweep half of a team easly
@@wildresin6292 Not true its ability lets it out speed nearly everything, plus and extremely good move set and its good typing allows to take out many things especially fairy, water, rock, ground and other grass types. Meanwhile blastoises Mediocre stats and movepool mean it can't do much to the MANY Pokémon that out speed it with its ass offenses and its defenses are better as well.
@@Neoman679 not true hidden power ground mega blastoise doesnt fear anything its bulk alone is amazing and with hp ground and ice beam as well as water pulse can deal with anything. On top of that its a rapid spinner. Way better than any version of venusaur.
Bulbasaur also predicted the attack Tickle in the first Togepi episode. Even Ivysaur got something, dare I say, a lot more than Bulbasaur and Venusaur. Being the only Grass Type in Super Smash Bros Brawl and Ultimate is quite the accomplishment.
Bulbasaur using Whirlwind was actually a translation error. On the occasions where Bulbasaur was about to be hit by a powder move, Ash tells Bulbasaur to blow it away. Whirlwind's Japanese name translated to English is Blow Away. So the dubbing team thought Ash was telling Bulbasaur to use Whirlwind when he really wasn't.
I've always seen the bulbasaur line being like the choose for a mature trainer who can understand and better use it as let's face it most kids hardly ever pick the grass starter unless you started in like gen 3
Venusaur is such a unique visual concept. Every time I see it, something about it even 20+ years later is just quintessentially "Pokémon" to me. Like, even with the first iterations of the trading cards, Venusaur was one of those who stood out by design. Something about the card just felt like you'd acquired an artifact of some sort. Charizard is a dragon, Blastoise is a turtle, Venusaur is just Venusaur. Sadly, while I collected the cards during the Blue/Red era, I didn't own a GameBoy until later when Gold/Silver came out. I got Blue later, but I can't claim that it was my first ever game starter since I played it after gen2.
If you're starting a new series, could you pick back up on the series where you design a gym leader for each type? I was really excited to see how you handled the grass gym
Bulbasaur's my OG fave. Fun fact: Venusaur has the highest total stats of the Gen 1 starters because Special Attack & Defense were the same stat. Also, anyone who claims it's the worst Gen 1 starter haven't bodied five of eight gyms with it. Blastoise stans in particular amuse me, they must never have tried to battle Starmie and gotten clapped by Thunderbolt. At least Red's Venusaur gets love in the manga.
I have used Venusaur the most out of any other starter, even Infernape which is my favorite Pokémon. I used it in Blue, Yellow, and X; every time, it’s been amazing great member of my teams.
Venusaur for me was very much so a Pokemon that grew on me over time. I was fairly indifferent to it when the series first came out and I was a kid, but at some point, I started to realize that there's actually a lot to like about it, and it kept on getting buffs across the generations: it got sludge bomb in gen2, the move was made special in gen4, chlorophyll made it an overpowered sun sweeper in gen5 (thanks to weather abilities being permanent), being able to remove toxic spikes by entering was nice, too, it got it's mega evolution (and lost 2 weaknesses because of it) while also having it's poison STAB buffed by the fairy type's introduction in gen6, and finally as of gen8, it got access to earth power as a great complementary coverage option as well. Knowing all this, it's honestly no wonder it was able to overcome power creep with each generation
I have a lot to say about the Venusaur line. Originally, the entire line never caught my interests besides being a starter and having the -saur suffix in their names. I was also one of those people who viewed the Grass-type as a weak typing so I never wanted to think about them outside of how strong those individual Pokemon of that typing really are. As I grew older, I began to appreciate the Grass-type as one I may use more often as my more favored types than I originally admitted. I find all the Kantonian starters awesome since during Generation 1's popular phase, but if I had to pick which starter reflects me the most as of the present is the Venusaur line. Every dex entry for each stage of its evolution line is something I can related to. I was raised to be well-behaved, I am known by my peers to be loyal even if we have been in contact for a long time, and enjoy sleeping in the sunlight (with a very pleasant breeze).
Apparently Ash’s bulbasaur was originally planned to evolve all the way to Venusaur. There’s a really old anime proportional image that shows Ash’s team which includes Pikachu, pidgeotto, Tauros, squirtle, Charizard and venusaur. It would’ve been so cool to see Ash with a venusaur
Used Venusaur in my Sword playthrough recently and it's good to not have to deal with shoddy Grass types in the long run, that's not even accounting for X & Y giving it a Mega, which is why I've been stacking it and it's fellow Mega compatible Unrivaleds in preparation for Legends Z-A.
I mean i wished Ash’s Bulbasaur evolved into a Ivysaur & just stay that form then you’re basically version of Pkmn Trainer (Smash Bros brawl in anime style) 4:28
I was a fan of the Bulbasaur line as a starter. During the Red and Blue era, poison didn't really hav any high damage ATKs. All u could do is teach it Toxic to utilize its poison aspect. Same with Gengar (ghost/poison type). Gengar suffered heavily due to his poison attribute (making him weak to psychic types even tho ghost types were supposed to have an advantage over them).
It’s funny that the grass starter is usually the least popular but in the first game it’s the best. You can get better water and fire types in the game but the grass types in this game aren’t super great. So Venusaur is good. Plus it’s good against the first two gyms and resists the two after that.
I’ve always been a “Fire Type” main when it came to starters and in general love fire Pokémon but recently doing play through I have been starting with bulba
Honestly when it comes to in-game playthroughs grass types usually aren’t the best option They either get done dirty like meganium or get outclassed by someone better like swampert or infernape Venusaur is one of the few and only where they’re your best pick
Another video, another day of me asking you to make a best team video for all of the non gen 9 starters in Scarlet and Violet while trying not to use repeat mons as much as possible. I feel the starters deserve it. With how easy it is to catch each starter in the Indigo Disk, and with how easy it is to breed Pokémon in the games you can get one for a new game easily. There are a ton of good mons in the base game as well as the Teal Mask to pick from for team members.
To be honest I don’t have much liking for Venasaur’s line mainly due to I always never been able to get Bulbasaur in Pokémon Yellow Version as I didn’t know nor understand the friendship mechanic due to my young age and being autistic. Over time I just didn’t care about it anymore. Keep in mind I could only play my Gameboy color on the weekends and holidays after I finished my homework.
In Journeys, there was a group of Ivysaur that needed the sun in order to evolve instead of the moon. So the anime basically retconned how the line is supposed to evolve.
Do to the conversation about what starter is the best I did some research and testing and blastouse takes R/B but Venasaur has surprised me on how much it’s lacking outside fighting Brock and Misty it tends to have a bad match up against a lot of unskippable trainers in the early game and even with Brock in a solo run where bulbasaur beats every trainer Pokemon pre Brock it tends to get Vine Whip after beating his geodude and leachseed take forever to beat it the only other match ups venasaur has in its favor is Misty and any bad game design exploits which doesn’t close the gap between it and charizards matchups only having Misty hit it with super effective damage and and some unskippable trainers in rock tunnel and the main reason is venasaur doesn’t have coverage it’s grass and normal attacks are all it gets in FR/LG venasaur gets a lot better and might have taken 2nd best but blastouse still holds #1 and I’m a charizard fan but based on what research I’ve done I see why people didn’t like venasaur over the other two
Mystic, not sure if you’re rating other People’s Teams at this time, but I have one for you I did in the Rom Hack Pokémon Yellow Legacy. That team is the Starter Pikachu, Fearow, Nidoking, Poliwrath, Ninetales and Vileplume. And the kicker? I got all six of these Pokémon before even reaching Brock.
Hold the phone. How could Venusaur be the best starter for competitive in gen 1 when its weak to the most overpowered type in the game at the time: psychic
Venusaur is Balance Charizard is Offensive Blastoise is Defensive Venusaur He's beautiful, powerful and versatile, best kanto grass ever, but he's not the best starter.
A Grass/Fairy Venasaur? Yes please! I don’t recall who my starters were in Blue/Red. Yellow gave me all three and pikachu, so I had all of them on the team. Totodile - Feraligatr next?
Yeah as a Venusaur realist youve never answered how its the best. You couldnt posdibly with tons of pokemon resisting it lack of movepool and poison being weak to the strongest type in the game.
Seeing as how Bulbasaur was my very first Pokémon I agree 100% with this video.
I kind of figured that Charizard’s negative attitude after evolution played into souring Bulbasaur’s perspective on the issue, wanting to stay small and humble rather than turn on its trainer out of arrogance
The right number of legs
Bulbasaur is #1 for a reason. It is easily the most broken starter in Kanto. The secondary poison typing means that you don't live in fear of Weedle. You get Sleep Powder by level up, which makes catching a billion times easier. You get your final evolution at level 32 instead of 36. About the only place where Venusaur is slightly lacking is coverage moves in the earlier gens, but since you have Sleep Powder to help you catch all the OP mons you need for a killer team, they become your coverage.
I love the Bulbasaur line
When I came back to Pokemon in the 2010s, I remember hearing people constantly talking about how choosing the Bulbasaur line for your starter was playing R/B/FR/LG/Y on easy mode. It blew my mind...
Venusaur is for those of us who enjoyed learning about strategy and combos.
Charizard and Blastoise for us who just like to sweap the teams without unnecessary strategies and combos.
@@wildresin6292 try sweeping a team with blastoise now, quess what? you cant its mid!
@@Neoman679 venusaur cant sweep teams as well. Does not stand a chance if someone know its weaknesses itll go down in first turn.
On the other hand if someond has a flying type a grass type and a dragon type on a team blastoise will sweep half of a team easly
@@wildresin6292 Not true its ability lets it out speed nearly everything, plus and extremely good move set and its good typing allows to take out many things especially fairy, water, rock, ground and other grass types.
Meanwhile blastoises Mediocre stats and movepool mean it can't do much to the MANY Pokémon that out speed it with its ass offenses and its defenses are better as well.
@@Neoman679 not true hidden power ground mega blastoise doesnt fear anything its bulk alone is amazing and with hp ground and ice beam as well as water pulse can deal with anything. On top of that its a rapid spinner. Way better than any version of venusaur.
Venusaur is one of my favorite Kanto Pokémon
Same here, its better than torterra and sceptile
Same here but without the “one of”
@@geovoniejohnson4853 Torterra said sceptile are my favorite too
@@jermainespeid4934 im with Venusaur all the way
Bulbasaur also predicted the attack Tickle in the first Togepi episode. Even Ivysaur got something, dare I say, a lot more than Bulbasaur and Venusaur. Being the only Grass Type in Super Smash Bros Brawl and Ultimate is quite the accomplishment.
Bulbasaur using Whirlwind was actually a translation error. On the occasions where Bulbasaur was about to be hit by a powder move, Ash tells Bulbasaur to blow it away. Whirlwind's Japanese name translated to English is Blow Away. So the dubbing team thought Ash was telling Bulbasaur to use Whirlwind when he really wasn't.
I've always seen the bulbasaur line being like the choose for a mature trainer who can understand and better use it as let's face it most kids hardly ever pick the grass starter unless you started in like gen 3
Major respect for using Mitsuhiro Arita TCG art.
Love this series. It would be really cool to see Empoleon down the line and how it managed to be on a World’s team despite its lackluster kit.
It was my first ever Pokemon when I was a kid. I named mine after the movie version: Bruteroot. XD
I’m doing a Leafgreen Nuzlocke, and that was my nickname choice
A Fellow Bruteroot! I thought I came up with the nickname and then watched the movie a yr or so ago and i was surprised!
@@DanMarik I'm surprised I'm finding so many of us. XD
Venusaur is such a unique visual concept. Every time I see it, something about it even 20+ years later is just quintessentially "Pokémon" to me. Like, even with the first iterations of the trading cards, Venusaur was one of those who stood out by design. Something about the card just felt like you'd acquired an artifact of some sort. Charizard is a dragon, Blastoise is a turtle, Venusaur is just Venusaur. Sadly, while I collected the cards during the Blue/Red era, I didn't own a GameBoy until later when Gold/Silver came out. I got Blue later, but I can't claim that it was my first ever game starter since I played it after gen2.
If you're starting a new series, could you pick back up on the series where you design a gym leader for each type? I was really excited to see how you handled the grass gym
Venusaur in my opinion will always be the best grass starter of all time.
Bulbasaur's my OG fave. Fun fact: Venusaur has the highest total stats of the Gen 1 starters because Special Attack & Defense were the same stat. Also, anyone who claims it's the worst Gen 1 starter haven't bodied five of eight gyms with it. Blastoise stans in particular amuse me, they must never have tried to battle Starmie and gotten clapped by Thunderbolt.
At least Red's Venusaur gets love in the manga.
I have used Venusaur the most out of any other starter, even Infernape which is my favorite Pokémon. I used it in Blue, Yellow, and X; every time, it’s been amazing great member of my teams.
Please do Swampert next. He’s my favorite Pokémon
In the manga Red's actual starter was Bulbasaur so i always picked it. Blue's was Charmander and they traded later in the storyline I believe
They temporarily traded a few times, but Charizard would always go back to Blue
Venusaur is the best grass starter, also the frenzy plant looks good on him, unlike torterra and sceptile.
Venusaur for me was very much so a Pokemon that grew on me over time. I was fairly indifferent to it when the series first came out and I was a kid, but at some point, I started to realize that there's actually a lot to like about it, and it kept on getting buffs across the generations: it got sludge bomb in gen2, the move was made special in gen4, chlorophyll made it an overpowered sun sweeper in gen5 (thanks to weather abilities being permanent), being able to remove toxic spikes by entering was nice, too, it got it's mega evolution (and lost 2 weaknesses because of it) while also having it's poison STAB buffed by the fairy type's introduction in gen6, and finally as of gen8, it got access to earth power as a great complementary coverage option as well. Knowing all this, it's honestly no wonder it was able to overcome power creep with each generation
I agree with you it’s the most balanced but for me it’s like top 5 grass starter to use
It was the first started I ever used in pokemon. And had no idea what I was doing as a kid .
I am a huge fan of Venusaur.. In Pokemon Red, I had a Bold Venusaur who was insane in Pokemon Stadium 1 and 2.
I have a lot to say about the Venusaur line. Originally, the entire line never caught my interests besides being a starter and having the -saur suffix in their names. I was also one of those people who viewed the Grass-type as a weak typing so I never wanted to think about them outside of how strong those individual Pokemon of that typing really are. As I grew older, I began to appreciate the Grass-type as one I may use more often as my more favored types than I originally admitted. I find all the Kantonian starters awesome since during Generation 1's popular phase, but if I had to pick which starter reflects me the most as of the present is the Venusaur line. Every dex entry for each stage of its evolution line is something I can related to. I was raised to be well-behaved, I am known by my peers to be loyal even if we have been in contact for a long time, and enjoy sleeping in the sunlight (with a very pleasant breeze).
Bulbasaur was my first pokemon ever and every generation I have to use it at least once
When ever Venusaur used vine whip in the anime it looked very powerful
Bulbasaur and its evos have always been my favorite Pokemon.
Thanks for all You do 🐐
Apparently Ash’s bulbasaur was originally planned to evolve all the way to Venusaur. There’s a really old anime proportional image that shows Ash’s team which includes Pikachu, pidgeotto, Tauros, squirtle, Charizard and venusaur. It would’ve been so cool to see Ash with a venusaur
If enemy are asleep, there's no problem.
How have I not found this channel yet? Umbreon is my fav pokemon of all time, insta subscribe lol
it is BUT learn Sleep Powder in its Bulbasaur stage by the time Venusaur learns IT in Gen 1 you'll likely already BE at the E 4 at lv 45+.
Bulbasaur all the way!
I'm a Charizard fan but i love all3 kanto stater
Used Venusaur in my Sword playthrough recently and it's good to not have to deal with shoddy Grass types in the long run, that's not even accounting for X & Y giving it a Mega, which is why I've been stacking it and it's fellow Mega compatible Unrivaleds in preparation for Legends Z-A.
Someone doesnt like Torterra, it seems.
I mean i wished Ash’s Bulbasaur evolved into a Ivysaur & just stay that form then you’re basically version of Pkmn Trainer (Smash Bros brawl in anime style) 4:28
Love this idea!
I chose my Bulbasaur in my first game via Fire Red and he's been my first game child since 🤗
I love my flower dinosaur boi
I was a fan of the Bulbasaur line as a starter. During the Red and Blue era, poison didn't really hav any high damage ATKs. All u could do is teach it Toxic to utilize its poison aspect. Same with Gengar (ghost/poison type). Gengar suffered heavily due to his poison attribute (making him weak to psychic types even tho ghost types were supposed to have an advantage over them).
Bulba line in gen 1 uses Razor Leaf, 100% critical hit
As much as I love it, I am a grass type specialist, and there are a few too many great grass starters, that Venusaur only ends up in 4th.
I like the sprite of it in the gen 3 Kanto games best!
It’s funny that the grass starter is usually the least popular but in the first game it’s the best. You can get better water and fire types in the game but the grass types in this game aren’t super great. So Venusaur is good. Plus it’s good against the first two gyms and resists the two after that.
I’ve always been a “Fire Type” main when it came to starters and in general love fire Pokémon but recently doing play through I have been starting with bulba
Honestly when it comes to in-game playthroughs grass types usually aren’t the best option
They either get done dirty like meganium or get outclassed by someone better like swampert or infernape
Venusaur is one of the few and only where they’re your best pick
I can really say i've matured after i chose Bulbasaur instead of charmander
Venasaur had the best sprite out of all starters that’s why I liked it
I agree
Vensaur is my 3rd favorite grass type septilie being my most favorite
Number 1 in my heart
In Gen 9 not only is Venusaur the best Grass starter, but it is also the best Fire Starter as well.
Theres a heavy discussion to be had about gen 2….my love….Chikorita line
Another video, another day of me asking you to make a best team video for all of the non gen 9 starters in Scarlet and Violet while trying not to use repeat mons as much as possible. I feel the starters deserve it.
With how easy it is to catch each starter in the Indigo Disk, and with how easy it is to breed Pokémon in the games you can get one for a new game easily. There are a ton of good mons in the base game as well as the Teal Mask to pick from for team members.
Bulbasaur was my very first Pokemon so yeh, Venusaur for me is the GOAT.
You need to make best team videos for Teal Mask and Indigo Disk.
When can we get an updated BEST TEAM ALL REGIONS??
Speaking of Grass, when will the Top 10 Strongest Pokemon (Gen 9 version) videos be released (mostly including Ghost, Grass, Dark, Psychic and Steel)?
(6:00) If Makuhita can somehow use Whirlwind, I do not see why the Bulbasaur can't.
Ooooh I love grass type starters!
My personal favorites are
Ivysaur
Sceptile
Torterra
Decidueye
and I think Chesnaught?
My only favorite grass starter is Venusaur and thats that
Venasaur with overgrow ability
Moveset
Energy ball
Giga drain
Growth
Return /body slam / double edge
@ miracle seed/ wise glasses/ big root
Wasn't there supposed to be a Battle against Prof. Oak where he takes the Final Starter?
Hey dude just saw your how strong was kabutops in each game and i wanted to know how good was cloyster in each game too
Smash got it right, Ivysaur is the best in the line
The homie is based on toads and he was always choice! Always will be
To be honest I don’t have much liking for Venasaur’s line mainly due to I always never been able to get Bulbasaur in Pokémon Yellow Version as I didn’t know nor understand the friendship mechanic due to my young age and being autistic. Over time I just didn’t care about it anymore. Keep in mind I could only play my Gameboy color on the weekends and holidays after I finished my homework.
Because it’s venusaur !
In Journeys, there was a group of Ivysaur that needed the sun in order to evolve instead of the moon. So the anime basically retconned how the line is supposed to evolve.
Sun makes more sense, given plants
I disagree, Venusaur is the greatest Starter of all time! No matter the type!
Could Venusaur make it in Scarlet and Violet? How about Ash's original team
Venusaur is the perfect Pokémon
AGREED!!!!!
Mega Venasaur hands down!!!
Do to the conversation about what starter is the best I did some research and testing and blastouse takes R/B but Venasaur has surprised me on how much it’s lacking outside fighting Brock and Misty it tends to have a bad match up against a lot of unskippable trainers in the early game and even with Brock in a solo run where bulbasaur beats every trainer Pokemon pre Brock it tends to get Vine Whip after beating his geodude and leachseed take forever to beat it the only other match ups venasaur has in its favor is Misty and any bad game design exploits which doesn’t close the gap between it and charizards matchups only having Misty hit it with super effective damage and and some unskippable trainers in rock tunnel and the main reason is venasaur doesn’t have coverage it’s grass and normal attacks are all it gets in FR/LG venasaur gets a lot better and might have taken 2nd best but blastouse still holds #1 and I’m a charizard fan but based on what research I’ve done I see why people didn’t like venasaur over the other two
I personally prefer chesnaught, but venusaur is an easy #2 for me.
Mystic, not sure if you’re rating other People’s Teams at this time, but I have one for you I did in the Rom Hack Pokémon Yellow Legacy. That team is the Starter Pikachu, Fearow, Nidoking, Poliwrath, Ninetales and Vileplume. And the kicker? I got all six of these Pokémon before even reaching Brock.
Idk man. Contrary Serperior exists.
Because of ☣️
Cell and Venusaur are difficult to draw?? Hmmm...
Hold the phone. How could Venusaur be the best starter for competitive in gen 1 when its weak to the most overpowered type in the game at the time: psychic
Venesaur it has to many weakness i think, it should be used for defende.
Venusaur is Balance
Charizard is Offensive
Blastoise is Defensive
Venusaur He's beautiful, powerful and versatile, best kanto grass ever, but he's not the best starter.
It's the best Grass starter to me because they didn't consistently screw it over every generation.
It’s actually pronounced poke ay Mon, not pokey Mon (and def not pokey men)
That art is immortalized.
A Grass/Fairy Venasaur? Yes please! I don’t recall who my starters were in Blue/Red. Yellow gave me all three and pikachu, so I had all of them on the team.
Totodile - Feraligatr next?
Yeah as a Venusaur realist youve never answered how its the best.
You couldnt posdibly with tons of pokemon resisting it lack of movepool and poison being weak to the strongest type in the game.
Toxic Seed.
No i think treecko line i the best
More scared of Rillaboom.
Did anyone else get a pokemon go ad while watching the video?
Brave browser. Avoid ads on UA-cam lol
I love Venusaur, but Rillaboom is the strongest grass starter. It is top tier thread both in VGC and OU
Venusaur is cool but Charmander was the first Pokémon I fell in love with despite being the worst Kanto starter. I am not a big Charizard fan though.
No such thing as a good grass starter
The best grass starter is Sceptile in my opinion. But realistically Venusaur is better, especially it's Mega evolution.
Gen 5 is best other than the new sprite in paldea. Best starter!