How the Pinkerton Agency Laid the Foundation for the FBI and CIA
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- If you're interested in knowing about the origins of government agencies like the FBI, the Secret Service, and the CIA, look no further than Pinkerton Agency history. It may seem like the vestige of a bygone era, but it's still around.
The Pinkerton National Detective Agency, founded by Allan Pinkerton, established itself as a surveillance and intelligence body during the second half of the 19th century. The agency created the foundation for the "alphabet soup" of US security existing today.
#Pinkerton #GovernmentAgencies #WeirdHistory
You're A Wanted Man Mr.Morgan.
$5000? Can I turn myself in?
enjoy your fishing boy
@@whatareyoudoingstepcomment4029 while you still can
U want jellybeans? -Arthur Morgan
Lenny mah boi
If you ever need to escape the Pinkertons, just start a mango farm in Tahiti..... works like a charm.
Lol except for when you catch TB and your gang betrays you.
But stay away from Guarma
I've got 5 mango trees in my yard down here in Florida. Its kind of like a small farm.
@@BigPoppieSeed Can't wait for the mango harvest
@@BigPoppieSeed : Do you get much fruit from them?
I remember the day in school when we were taught about Leviticus Cornwall hiring the Pinkertons to hunt down the Van Der Linde gang around 1899.
It will forever go down in history as one of their biggest failures. Not only did they fail miserably but they also allowed their client (Leviticus Cornwall) to be shot killed by Dutch Van Der Linde himself. In their presence much less.
Why was your school teaching you something that happened to fictional characters in a video game? Neither the gang or Liviticus is real lol
I bet it was a joke
@@Erraticfox maybe because it's a joke?
@@spencerfotheringham5164 oh wow since when jokes become literally shit fucking puns that had literally no humor to them other than the sense of a fact of making some literal shit of fucking reference to a game.
"WoW WiLd WiLd WeSt mUsT be RdR2"
Literally, I don't care how old you are. Find your father's rifle and go into the street and anhero
@@Erraticfox I remember he day in school when they taught us what a joke was. I also remember that one kid ErraticFox was absent with a serious case of the shits, shame he missed that very important lesson
My grandmother hired Pinkerton Agency to find me in the 70s when I ran away from home. They were unsuccessful.
this is actually rly cool
Apparently he wasn't as good as he thought he was!
Nice! I bet you can see right through all of these lies going on this past year too. I left home at 14 and the local sheriff couldn't catch me either.
I Ran away 3 times . third time i went to Cali I was 13 year old . my picture were on a milk carton
tell us more of the story
I can't hear pinkerton without thinking about Red Dead
Can't think of the old west without Pinkerton
Same here. I'm playing the game on pc right now, and I thought they were made up.
weezer
He was a Cooper and changed his name to Alice
The deadwood show, whenever I hear Pinkerton I think of Al Swearengen complaining about them
Dutch would have a better plan if he watched this video
😂😂😂
The Pinkertons were so skilled though. If their fellows weren't on your tail, one of their ladies could be listening or eavesdropping at any time. How could you ever be truly safe?
He just needed one more big score, thats it!
He needed money though.
Just needed some more FAITH!
They tried to sue Rockstar over the use of their name and image on RDR2. Judge ruled they are a historic figure at this point and dismissed it.
Great this is one of the only time I’m okay with the law and decision
Who did?
@@TheSauxyFxcker The agency I would presume
@@TypicalIndian1981 Decisions are the root of all evil. Stop thinking.
Oh, when I read this, I thought it was Weezer.
Arthur: What a fine day to visit Blackwater.
Pinkertons: NOPE.
Was you followed Morgan
@@cragmush excuse me
@@strangeman5698 WAS YOU FOLLOWED?
@@Laurensdeleeuw94 Do you know who you're talking to?
@@theonlybigsmokeI ain’t sure. I ain’t sure about much no more
"Enjoy your fishing kid while you still can"
Foreshadowing
Mmmmmm ... I see "red"
Enjoy your duck hunting while you still can old man
@@kyleliberty9978 mmmmm I like ducks
Excuse me, you Edgar Ross?
“We Never Sleep” Ahh, the good ol’ days of legal cocaine.
My favorite..cocaine toothpaste in stores
CIA Stands for Cocaine Importers of America. Just ask Bill Clinton and the boys down in Mena Arkansas (the ones that haven't been silenced that is)
you are thinking about old man Bush when he was the head of the CIA
Hahahaha
Lmao
I love how we talk about violent murderous strike breakers like they’re hero’s and then don’t think twice about the FBI and CIA basically being the state run version of them. Yes, I’m implying that the US government saw strikebreaking by the Pinkertons and said “hey, I bet we can make a ton more money doing this for corporations who lobby and fund us” and that it’s exactly what they do to this day
Thank you!!!! Thank you for saying this!!!! Feel like I'm the only one who sees these guys for the monsters they are!
Ah yes, because the FBI and CIA are totally known for busting unions up and punishing insubordinate employees.*
That's actually a smart statement.
This is exactly why the 2nd Ammendment exists. Citizens rights shall not be infringed
And isn't it interesting the first picture in this video is of them showing off the "Hidden Hand" symbolism with their hands in their jackets? And some think their tactics have changed? Some think they work for the American people? Har, har, hardy, har-har. Also, their logo is the "All Seeing Eye"? Really?
Most shocking fact from this video: The Pinktertons are still around!
They tried suing rockstar
@@cragmush deadass?
@@cosmin1518 yeah.
Not only that, they have their headquarters in Ann Arbor, Michigan, only 40 or so miles from me.
They spy on unions for large corporations now. They honestly are and have always been shitty private mercs for the wealthy.
We got God damn Pinkertons all over us, Dutch!
My great grandfather was shot by the Pinkertons during a labor strike in the 1920's...fortunately he lived or I wouldn't have left this comment.
Was that legal?
@@dersuddeutschesumpf5444 As long as it's done by government officials, unfortunately yes.
@@dersuddeutschesumpf5444 yeah they can do whatever they like.
And so can we!
Was this before or after the blackwater massacre
@@impulseelectrobrine1259 Nah that was after the Heidi McCort massacre if what op said is true it was 1920's that's post WW1.
The dislikes came from the Van Der Linde Gang.
Edit: I misspelled it Van Der Line, lol
Just have some FAITH, Arthur
I had a GodDamn PLLAAAN
The dislikes probable came from the unions the Pinkertons strikebroke
wikey1236 considering the conditions alot of those workers had to endure you can't really blame them for disliking the guys who were basically just the hired goons of their bosses.
*van der linde
I think it would be awesome to see a whole series that deep dives into this agencies details. It would be really cool to hear about the few times that someone let go of convention and how It paid off.
It's always nice to learn new stuff everyday, I thought Pinkerton agency only exist in Red Dead Redemption game. Sorry I'm not American so I didn't know this before lol.
It’s okay, we forgive you.
don't worry. most Americans don't even know their own history
@@river2805 Not only that, but a lot of the history "taught" is not accurate. Fudge.
RDR2 is actually pretty historically accurate in a lot of its lore and world. They really did a phenomenal job on this game.
@@janejayne8152 You are right. I was taught in school in the 90z that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK I disputed this with evidence of the zupruder film. Man did I get ridiculed as a child man for.
I'm literally playing Red Dead Redemption 2 right now! Thanks for the context; I really feel like I'm there now!
Soon as I saw “Pinkerton Agency” I ran to the comments for red dead comments, and I wasn’t disappointed 🤠🤠
Yee haw.
I was wondering why they did a RDR lore video lol
Same lol
You do understand historical figures and these facts involved aren't just fun video game scenarios don't you?
Same!!
@@hodun8 YUP. it’s pretty obvious
Just need faith, noise , money, and alot of smoke to avoid the Pinkertons. Learned this from Dutch.
Yeh only it didn’t work
This is the low honor ending for Arthur
"Oh Dutch, he's a rat, you know it and i know it."
"He's sick, he's dying he's (cough) talking crazy"
-Micah Bell
I- -Dutch Van Der Linde
''Come on.. dutch, lets go buddy we made it (grunts) we've won, come on"
"John made it, he's the only one, (breaths) the rest of us.. no but, i tried, in the end i did"
"Come on, lets go we can make it, Come on dutch, COME OOON!"
(Arthur Coughing)
(Points gun at arthur) "You're not better than me, morgan''
"Whatever you say, you fool."
"Damn you"
"Damn us both!"
(Arthur gets shot in the head)
(Rat spits on him and limps away)
Sad last words
I gave you all I had.
I love this video
My grandmother was born the year before the story mode takes place.
"I HAVE A PLAN"
And somewhere in all that history came Agents Milton and Ross to mess everything up... tragedy
Is that an RDR2 reference
@@darealist690 yeah lol
@@MattReVAmPHlivjak1 I wanna get it is it good?
@@darealist690 extremely good. I highly recommend playing it slowly. Take your time and enjoy it. It plays different than any other game and it's excellent. Online can still use a lot of work though lol
@@MattReVAmPHlivjak1 ik I bought online when it was 5 dollars lol kinda regret not getting rdr2 when it was on sell
Pinkerton flees the law and starts an agency that hunts those who flee, such great irony. 🧐🗿🎭🛡️
Mans switched up on the gang lol
What does the Easter island face, shield and shitty drama masks add to your statement? I'm sorry that your frontal lobes haven't developed yet.
@@kylegreene1356
Irony and drama are related...
Did you take English class in high school? 🤔
@@WaysideWade Yes, as evidenced by my not using emojis like a moron. Also how does shield or the ancient statue play in? Keep reaching, bud. You're just another buzzword spitting, living cliché.
@@kylegreene1356
I love people like you. I comment on over 50 videos a day, most of them don't speak English. I'll leave the rest to you...
I can't imagine the amount of detective work it takes to write for this channel.
Do you heard about any pinkertons around here?
-Arthur Morgan 1889
Dutch Van Der Linde rn: 😬
I'm watching this today because of a card game.
same
Same
Which game
The crimes of the Pinkertons during labor disputes and strike-busting were passed over a bit too quickly. Things did not improve with the start of the FBI. The main difference is that the FBI hid their crimes better for decades.
Corporate criminal Henry Frick was known for a few things. Among them the Johnstown flood which killed more than 2,000 people; however he bought some respectability with his Frick Collection Art Museum in NYC.
Also against outlaws *cough* Arthur Morgan *cough*
They got some real numbers considering the bodies west of New Hanover and beyond
Don't forget the Grizzlies and West Elizabeth
@@cowboys25489 yep
@@cowboys25489 guess where they aren't?
@@cowboys25489 TAHITI
And Lemoyne
As the son of a union steel worker, I have nothing good to say of the Pinkertons!
Some things are hard to forget!
Yeah they basically were hired by wealthy corporations to murder striking miners
Ah yes I remember when we heard about Milton hunting down the infamous Van der Linde gang in 1899. Truly disasterous, then their later manhunt of the remains of the scattered gang. Impressive.
How did you guys leave out the interesting story of when they sent a cease and desist to Rockstar Games, for using the Pinkerton name in Red Dead Redemption 2?
@Justin S YEP and Rockstar won
@Justin S because they felt that they were using the Pinkerton name in a bad light even though they were portraying them in a historically accurate manner for tracking down outlaws.
@@rosaria8384 And busting union organizing and helping enforce private discrimination against LGBTQ+ people.
@Generaloberst Heinz Wilhelm Guderian Really though?
Made me think of the 3 Stooges short where they were Civil War spies and the whole Goodtime Charlie bit
My grandad: **suffers ptsd from being in Vietnam while in the Air Force**
Me: **suffers ptsd from fleeing from blackwater after being chased by Pinkertons in 1899**
uncle: suffering form L U M B A G O
Deadwood's Al Swearengen: "The fucking Pinkertons!"
RIP Tacitus Kilgore & Jim Milton
RIP Van Winkle
RDR2 VIBES
"One last score, Mr. Morgan" ...
Well this explains why I never went to work for Securitas...thanks Weird History!!! 🧐💯
This could be a good game to base upon of. A linear stealth game where a rag tag of Pinkerton newbs would rise to the ranks by solving cases during that time.
There was nothing stealthy about early lawmen or the pinkertons. Also, a game about lawmen in the old west being linear? No thanks.
@@apina9731 Equipping this Armour gives you an inc% chance of killing a striker
Play L.A. Noire, it's not about the Pinkertons but it's likely the closest you'll get
Pinkerton, founded as the Pinkerton National Detective Agency, is a private security guard and detective agency established in the United States by Scotsman Allan Pinkerton in 1850, and currently a subsidiary of Securitas AB.
Pinkerton became famous when he claimed to have foiled a plot to assassinate president-elect Abraham Lincoln, who later hired Pinkerton agents for his personal security during the Civil War.
Pinkerton's agents performed services ranging from security guarding to private military contracting work.
The Pinkerton National Detective Agency hired women and minorities from its founding, a practice uncommon at the time.
Pinkerton was the largest private law enforcement organization in the world at the height of its power.
Glossing over the parts where they murdered dozens, hundreds, of strikebreakers, women, and children, in their glee and zeal for Union-Busting. Now they kick in gamers' doors to retrieve Magic Cards for their Hasbro Board Shareholders lol
I had heard about the Pinkerton agency over the years in college, and I got a laugh out of the fact that Booker Dewitt in "Bioshock: Infinite" is said in-game to have once been one of their agents before he went and did his own PI work.
That moment when you and the boiis start FBI
This is giving me RDR2 ptsd..
Pinkerton had a plan, he just needed more money
There's two famous Pinkerton's agent :
Agent Andrew Milton and Agent Edgar Ross.
Great video. Very informative. Not a single mention of Dutch Vanderlin's gang, but otherwise, well researched
Not a mention on the framing & injustice of the Molly Maguires? It’s were they made their bones. The largest execution in one day.
Yea the jury basically believed and convicted on the word of a private Eye who worked for the opposite side without any evidence....
Exactly what is this referencing? Im interested now
I don't think weird history is very accurate. Plus he talks super fast, guess he doesn't want us to notice.
Pinkerton detectives appear as antagonists in Red Dead Redemption 2. They appear primarily as mercenaries and investigators employed to track down the Van Der Linde gang after they stage a robbery in the town of Blackwater which resulted in several civilian deaths. The modern-day Pinkerton security company issued a cease-and-desist notice to Take-Two Interactive, publisher of Red Dead Redemption 2, in 2019 over the use of the company's trademarks[33] and the game's negative portrayal of Pinkertons as villains. Take-Two filed a suit striking back at the cease-and-desist notice from Pinkerton, wanting a court to rule that its use of the Pinkerton name - as part of a game that emphasizes historical accuracy - was fair use, but on April 11, 2019, Pinkerton dismissed their lawsuit and settled out of court with Take-Two - Wikipedia
“Be careful hunting monsters, lest you become one yourself, for when you stare into the Abyss, the Abyss also stares into you.” --Nietzsche.
"You're a wanted man mr Morgan 5,000 dollars for your head alone"
The story "Valley of Fear" by Arthur Conan Doyle seems to be based on the Pinkerton agents. Though in the story the mine labourers are portrayed as villains and brutes. Whereas they were actually victims of exploitation.
The same story from a different perspective
With two sons in the Pinkerton Detective Agency and one son working in the sewage processing plant, my great grandmother would tell her friends she has "Two in the Pink, and one in the stink."
Fucking brilliant
Damn, I can’t believe the Weezer album did all that.
They used the Pinkertons against Amazon union organizers in Europe recently.
Securitas in Switzerland also uses the Pinkerton eye logo
I love the art style for their poster.
What a good subject! I have visions of Jim West & Artemus Gordon in their personal railroad car.
I didn't realize Wild Wild West was a Pinkerton Co. storyline. Of Course!
I usually get my history from television shows too, but Jim and Artemus were Secret Service agents who reported to President Grant. And so was Will Smith in that robot spider movie, so not Pinkertons.
Constantly running from these guys in red dead lol
I am getting flashbacks and deja vu
You should do a video on how the person who created the clock knew the time
I wanted to listen to the Weezer album and now I’m watching this video
Being a lover of History I knew they existed, and a new most of their history. When first Red Dead redemption came out my first thought was the pinkerton's had to be involved somehow. Having learned about it from the History channel back before it became on pawn pickers
Wait, they weren't just a plot device in RDR? Freaking shook.
A lot of the stuff, easter eggs and places in rdr2 are from real life 😁
Enjoy your fishing kid, while you still can
THEM DAMN PINKERTONS ON OUR TRAIL
Been playing RDR2 lately so definitely needed this
they go from being 1800s fbi to raiding a house because a card collector did something that he had no control of
Why am I only able to think about RDR2??
Not anymore BOAH
Getting the feeling someone is watching.👀
Would love to hear about the Possibility of the show Hell on Wheels being somewhat true. If there is such a person as "Cullen Bohannon" it would be awesome to hear about his story. Not sure if you had already done an episode on that or not but it'd be amazing if you touched up on that with the real story.
Bohannon wasnt a real person but was a character loosely based on Grenvile Dodge and John Casement
People always confess or divulge info out of a guilty conscience or pride. But we always confess
My history teacher gave me this lesson about the day famous outlaw Hosea Mathews was killed by Andrew Milton in a huge bank robbery in New Orleans formally known as Saint Denis in the year 1899
I used to work for Pinkerton in the 1990’s, pathetic management in the Ohio office I worked out of.
I did as well during the same years you did but in Tampa, I hated the company.
@@supportyourtroopsathletes6460 is the company morally grey or did u mean bad management
@@darealist690 bad management all the way. They don't treat the employees right from supervisors down to lower level employees. I was a regional field manager as I came from a law enforcement background as was in between jobs after the passing of my grandmother.
I seen it all with the company. I unfortunately had to resign being with a toddler back then and did not approve how they operated cheating pay after hours rendered and yes the Tampa office had managers within the office who were racist morally also. One of the managers in the office was my own biological cousin also go figure.
@@supportyourtroopsathletes6460 damn that sucks
@@darealist690 .. it is all good, even my cousin left Pinkerton and I left within 4 months taking a job with the Manatee county sheriff's office. Even supervisors did not make enough to stay as we were strickly on salary putting in at least 70 hours a week.
It was not worth it while constantly being by accused of racism due to the office staff. They had no problem saying racist statements in front of some new hires after interviews. Totally unprofessional. My cousin first obtained his managers license with them through the state and once a person obtains that license, they can go anywhere in which he did. I myself had no interest as mentioned, I was between jobs in law enforcement after leaving Surfside Police department to tend to our grandmother.
One dislike from Arthur Morgan
4 dislikes now, I’d bet they’re from Dutch, Uncle and John lol
They really had it out for Dutch Van Der Linde
"Have faith, Son!".
I‘m really proud of the rdr2 Community for taking over the comment section, but remember we still have ONE LAST SCORE to scheme
HAVE A LITTLE FAITH
Can you do a video about the Pinkerton agency and the Homestead strike @ Carnegie Steel in 1892?
You just summoned the whole fandom
@6:12- “Sounds like we should do a story on that guy.” I’d say go for it!
Funny cos I just finished the fishing mission with jack and I see this vid
Fun fact: it still exists.
It took on another name. The name itself ended at the end of the 90s
I did not know a company bought them out. I worked for Pinkerton in the 90s at the Tampa branch. I thought they were still around after all that time.
Last I checked the trademark is still used. A division of the company.
Securitas bought them. My first job out of high school was as a security guard for Pinkerton in 2002. Soon after they were bought out.
the craziest thing is that this group still exsists
I HAD A PLAN!!
They had a GODDAMN PLAN
I can't believe RDD's influence was this giant to inspire such an organization
Man, this was something. I read about the agency during my free time. It was good.
bruh I didnt even know the pinkertons were real I thought they were just from red dead 2
Learnt alot from this channel
And I didn't expect Pintertons to last that long
They still do. They even sued Rockstar.
"Them damn pinkertons are catching onto us"
I use to live across the street from the Pinkerton Bloodline. Dude was a Sheriff, his kid shot me in the back with a bb gun.
Be careful, if you claim something about the Pinkertons that they don't agree or like (even if its historically correct) they will get butt-hurt and sue you in court. Just ask Rockstar Games. Pinkertons are today, nothing like they once were in the old days. Sad to say, but true!
So they don't shoot workers anymore? Yeah, very sad...
@@hundinger1 No. They just get the federal government to do it; they can hide the coroner's report easier.
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The Top Comment: “We Never Sleep” Ahh, the good ol’ days of legal cocaine."
Everyone else: Red Dead Redemption II references *and i effing love it*
This video needs a few spinoffs.
Milton and Ross started it up.
They were just rich men's pawns, per Mr. Morgan
I'm here because of Charlie's video
The guy was from the Gorbals area of Glasgow one of the roughest areas still to this date
This was pretty good