He told me how to Find the Pocket with ANY Band [ft. Tim Pierce]

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  • @Edwardneff
    @Edwardneff 7 місяців тому +6

    Tim's philosophy isn't just a philosophy of music, it's applicable to life as a whole.

  • @CasperLCat
    @CasperLCat Рік тому +100

    Being around Tim’s age, I almost gasp when he says, politely, “there’s a guy named…“ and then drops a HUGE classic rock name like Jim Keltner or Danny Kortchmar (!) But Tim is so socially aware and so courteous, he knows that much of the UA-cam audience has never heard of these guys. Tells you so much about Tim.

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Рік тому +7

      Absolutely!

    • @kylecravens6501
      @kylecravens6501 Рік тому +10

      So true. It's also a mark of humility in the biz. Being from Nashville, I would meet a great guitarist at a store and he'd say ... yeah, I've been playing with a guy named so and so (as if I hadn't heard of said major name artist before).

    • @NoCoverCharge
      @NoCoverCharge Рік тому +1

      Never heard of those two guys and I’m 56 …

    • @paulrhodesquinn
      @paulrhodesquinn Рік тому +7

      @@NoCoverChargeTwo of the most famous session players of the 70’s. Maybe that decade passed you by!

    • @paulrhodesquinn
      @paulrhodesquinn Рік тому +3

      Mind you, the drugs were good then so it's understandable!

  • @sturoc0
    @sturoc0 Рік тому +14

    For a long time in my younger bassist days I was doing well in my playing...oh so I thought. One day I joined a drummer and guitarist who were looking to do an album. In those days around NYC the Jazz and crossover stuff had a very healthy following and the clubs were busy wth great players . This was the Era of the great Kool Jazz fests, clubs like 7th Ave South , Blue Note, Bottom Line, V V etc . We started rehearsing and I just wasnt clicking with the drummer. It was difficult . Songs had alot of odd time sigs and alot of changes albeit very subtle changes. The Drummer who played really well stopped at one point and said to me " Stuie, listen to the bass drum, lock in on my bass drum " . So we started up and after a minute of me just listening I came in and BOOM suddenly a whole new world of space opened up. I played more freely while always coming back in on his bass drum. I was shocked how I never had 'discovered' this before. He was basically showing me how to get in and out of the pocket. Best advice I ever got from a drummer.

    • @skateforzero357
      @skateforzero357 8 місяців тому +1

      As a drummer, I wish this was emphasized more.

  • @simondodd918
    @simondodd918 5 місяців тому +5

    What a fantastic bit of advice from Tim: If it's not working, play *less*. Leave more space. That's terrific.

  • @noworriesimfijian
    @noworriesimfijian Рік тому +60

    Tim Pierce and Rick Beato are responsible for introducing a new generation of musicians and listeners on to good music, techniques, history and a respect for the practitioners of music and it’s craft. Great interview Phillip. Much respect.

    • @timcarter7202
      @timcarter7202 Рік тому

      I'm 50 and have tons of knowledge about music but I still learn with nearly every video of Rick's. lol

  • @AndyRobinson1010
    @AndyRobinson1010 Рік тому +56

    Tim has to be one of the nicest pros in the world. He shares his knowledge so generously, and so passionately, I love his channel, and I don't even play guitar, unless the guitarist is late 😠

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Рік тому +13

      I agree. And I can attest that Tim is equally kind and thoughtful on AND off camera. A genuine person. Such an honor to spend some time with him!

    • @neilmeadowcroft7569
      @neilmeadowcroft7569 Рік тому +2

      And with a smile on his face.

  • @bedroomrockstudios408
    @bedroomrockstudios408 Рік тому +19

    Tim is simply the most humble excellent studio guitarist out there, yes the wrecking crew was awesome but, Tim's attitude and ability is untouched, thanks for this video.

  • @gibson3798
    @gibson3798 Рік тому +10

    Tim’s Masterclass is easily the best teaching course I’ve ever seen.

  • @Hipbilly1
    @Hipbilly1 Рік тому +29

    Such great questions, Philip. You really set Tim up to share some great and useful wisdom for all of us. Thank you and keep it up!

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Рік тому +4

      Thanks for watching! Most of these questions from viewers like you submitted via Instagram (I picked my favorites). Glad to have you here!

  • @ricardodubatti657
    @ricardodubatti657 Рік тому +13

    This is a wonderful insight on playing with others. Tim is fantastic.

  • @crocholiday
    @crocholiday Рік тому +4

    Man, I'd be so stoked to share studio space with Tim. Congrats on landing the awesome session! I salute you sir! And thanks for sharing that experience with us.

  • @ClaudioBrogliato
    @ClaudioBrogliato Рік тому +5

    I see Phil and Tim in the same video, it's instant like.

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Рік тому

      Being in the same room as Tim is an instant like for me. Thanks so much for watching and your support!

  • @jeffro.
    @jeffro. Рік тому +2

    Comment for Tim:
    Tim, i enjoyed hearing your answers to his questions, especially when you said, "It's beyond being joyful. You're booked for the time, and you have to produce." (paraphrased)
    Tim, i have witnessed your infinite patience when i watched some of your basic guitar videos. I remember thinking, "Wow, was i ever that ____ (fill in the blank: slow, naive, uncoordinated, stupid?) when i was starting out?!"
    Tim, you take the time to explain every nuance, every detail. And you always claim to have made every mistake.
    So, not only are you extremely patient, but you have such a depth of humility.
    I can't imagine you ever being mad, angry, impatient with anyone, or getting your feelings hurt because they didn't like what you played from your heart.
    You obviously enjoy the teaching, the serving others.
    Either that, or you should've been an actor. You'd have won every award, and probably be a lot richer now.
    Take care, and thanks for the generosity of your time!

  • @mikeatl4953
    @mikeatl4953 Рік тому +2

    Tim’s the man! Thanks for the great video.

  • @frankstephenson1746
    @frankstephenson1746 Рік тому +3

    Great video
    I’ve got a ton of respect for top studio musicians.
    I watched this thinking how much I love playing at the club level.

  • @acreguy3156
    @acreguy3156 Рік тому +1

    Tim, if music was a country, you sir would be King! Thanks for the advice!!!

  • @jransomtucker
    @jransomtucker 11 місяців тому

    Tim Pierce is simply full of perfect advice. Love this interview.

  • @mykneeshurt8393
    @mykneeshurt8393 Рік тому +4

    Tim Pierce rules. Amazing musician. Even more amazing human.

  • @councilofgiants1031
    @councilofgiants1031 Рік тому +1

    Mr. Phillip... That was an AMAYZING 16:13 from you and Mr. Tim. Straight from the man's heart. My favorite Tim Pierce. Thank you, Mr. Philip and Ms. Tilly, of course. :)

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Рік тому

      Thanks so much for taking the time to watch and comment. Glad to have you here!

  • @buenmojo
    @buenmojo Рік тому +1

    That reference to Lluis Cole really demonstrates his open minded approach to listen to music. Amazing interview man.

  • @rexroman5211
    @rexroman5211 Рік тому

    Tim is the most generous person you could ever meet!

  • @RobLeeMusicLLC
    @RobLeeMusicLLC 3 місяці тому

    This is the main issue playing with musicians. I play in five bands and have this issue all the time. SO many musicians have no idea how to leave space or let a song breathe. It is very refreshing to play with people who leave space, they feel mature and seasoned. I am always impressed with someone who has this ability.

  • @kirklorange
    @kirklorange Рік тому +6

    I can relate. I was one of Sydney's (Australia) busier session guitarists back in the 70's-80's-90's. Some of my best tips are 1) Be on time! 2) Be in tune 3) Leave your ego in the hallway 4) Be respectful 5) Have a sense of humor.
    The hardest thing is when you play something you really love first-up and the producer says 'Nah, try something else' ... over and over again ... until finally, he says 'What was that thing you played first-up? Let's go with that' ... and you either can't remember it or you can't play it with the same feel as you did. That's why it's always good to record the thing you play first-up and save it.

  • @miketurner1768
    @miketurner1768 Рік тому +2

    Love your video channel Tim and learning about your studio work Great stuff. . 👍🎸🎸🎸🎸🎸

  • @_creighton
    @_creighton 5 місяців тому

    What a genuine, authentic guy. A true pleasure to observe, thanks for sharing a window into this world. Joy as the pivot point and Discipline as the driving aspect of sustainable greatness is perhaps the most poignant bit I've heard in years.

  • @Nightpants
    @Nightpants 5 місяців тому

    I love Tim Pierce. Excellent player, great teacher, seems like an all around good dude. His masterclass is excellent. I've learned a lot since i started it.

  • @jrpipik
    @jrpipik 5 місяців тому

    Great video, Philip! Tim is a legend and your questions were cogent. One suggestion: if you have Tim Pierce in your video with a guitar in his hands, MAKE HIM PLAY!

  • @71tbomb
    @71tbomb 7 місяців тому

    I started watching Tim's channel about a year ago & didn't know who he was at the time but I thought he was so good a player & just seemed so happy while he is playing. I've always played for fun myself but tried to keep a reasonably professional level, so that's what I like about him. I already subscribed to Tim & now to You too Philip. Cheers to You both from a fan from Down Under.

  • @dougcrowe1226
    @dougcrowe1226 Рік тому +4

    Great questions! Always love Tims perspective. The hurt feelings or resentment deal is real though. It was and is the toughest thing for me. But i found thst if I also create or learn some things I really like on the side it makes it easy to just say ok ill use that in my stuff and just go right to whatever they are asking for- hopefully😅

  • @Java8427
    @Java8427 Рік тому +1

    Philip, thank you for the great interview with Tim. I liked your questions. Thru Tim’s answers and detailed info he gave, it provided me with valuable and useful advice for furthering a successful career in music.

  • @bradsims7089
    @bradsims7089 Рік тому +2

    This was a great conversation. Excellent video.

  • @steveg219
    @steveg219 5 місяців тому

    Great advice, Tim is a jewel in the music world

  • @ParFive
    @ParFive Рік тому

    Tim is the best, good interview, Phil.

  • @haninetazi9741
    @haninetazi9741 Рік тому +1

    Hi Philip,
    Greetings from Casablanca, Morocco.
    Thank you for this channel, love it!
    (... And I miss your Madmen haircut)

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Рік тому +1

      Greetings from Atlanta! Glad to have you here and thanks for watching!

  • @fivechordmusic
    @fivechordmusic Рік тому +1

    Thank you for this. What a great mentor.

  • @TeeMost
    @TeeMost Рік тому +1

    Such great advice from a pro who’s such a great guy!

  • @ottokriete1153
    @ottokriete1153 Рік тому +1

    This is one great interview... you elicit stuff form Tim that even he might not tell us out loud, because it's not on his mind. I love Tim's playing , and this really give us some insight into his thought process. Funny that he brings up Danny Kootchmar, who is a legendary guitarist in his own right.

  • @CGlover113
    @CGlover113 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for using my question about the pocket! I was hoping to see this video!

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Рік тому

      That was a GREAT question. My favorite and my favorite answer. Thanks for submitting it!

  • @JAFOpty
    @JAFOpty Рік тому

    Even though things are really different these days, the fact that you can get someone like Tim on a screen at your house, sharing advice is beyond incredible.
    5:17 that is a picture worthy of a print and a frame!

  • @JuusoHoo
    @JuusoHoo Рік тому

    great conversation, I agree to a lot!❤

  • @JD-ZagaDude99
    @JD-ZagaDude99 Рік тому +4

    Great interview! Really good advice from a studio master.

  • @UncleDanBand64
    @UncleDanBand64 5 місяців тому

    Great interview 👍

  • @cameronpatrickscott
    @cameronpatrickscott Рік тому

    Cool man, that was deep.

  • @rhoydotp
    @rhoydotp Рік тому

    What an amazing interview!

  • @bobcongleton3485
    @bobcongleton3485 Рік тому +1

    Great interview, Philip. Thank you!

  • @larrypower8659
    @larrypower8659 Рік тому

    Listening! Probably the most important thing when playing with other musicians.

  • @stevenelson3054
    @stevenelson3054 Рік тому

    What a super cool guy! You can tell his playing is the musical form of his personality.

  • @tomstclair961
    @tomstclair961 Рік тому

    Tim is a Awesome REAL PERSON.
    Phenomenal human being. .
    What you see on the outside is a reflection from the inside.
    Always teaching and helping others become better..
    Thanks Tim 🙏🙏🙏✌️😎💪💯

  • @robertrodriquez7321
    @robertrodriquez7321 Рік тому

    It’s interesting … these notions.. although advice for musicians… really work in life as well… well done, super enjoyable!!! .. great questions!

  • @kaleem_k
    @kaleem_k Рік тому

    This is awesome! In an episode of Eastman Saxophone Talk last year, Bob Mintzer highlighted Louis Cole as someone he's got his eye on too! So cool!

  • @alanwatson1061
    @alanwatson1061 Рік тому

    LOVE THIS MAN! Thanks for the interview.

  • @mikaelstrom1114
    @mikaelstrom1114 Рік тому

    Wow, a virtually perfect interview with a legend! Kudos!

  • @jimco97
    @jimco97 Рік тому

    Thanks Tim great stuff!!!!

  • @greggunther
    @greggunther Рік тому +1

    Wise words from a genuine artist!

  • @nuthinbutlove
    @nuthinbutlove Рік тому

    Gorgeous Music Man 💓

  • @dougb5028
    @dougb5028 Рік тому

    Tim's attitude is fantastic

  • @philabernathy1868
    @philabernathy1868 Рік тому

    Philip, thanks for filming, edit and posting this. I love me some Tim. Maybe I am mistaken but I thought that I saw Rhett Schull in the studio also. Awesome session!

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Рік тому

      Thank you! Yes, Rhett was there as well. He has a video on his channel about reverb that we were all a part of recently.

  • @MichaelLewisMusic
    @MichaelLewisMusic Рік тому

    Sweet interview! Thank you!

  • @josewagner7584
    @josewagner7584 Рік тому

    First time checking you out. I'm a drummer but your injury video was so inspirational. I'll be following you my man. Be blessed and I wish you continued success. I need my bass playing twin brother to see this. He has lost his inspiration. ❤

  • @davidsummerville351
    @davidsummerville351 Рік тому +1

    I liked his view on advice. Listening to and taking advice can be disaster for yourself and everyone around you. 😎🤓

  • @jasonpualoa877
    @jasonpualoa877 Рік тому

    Excellent questions, and even better answers!

  • @dominiquecoladon8343
    @dominiquecoladon8343 Рік тому

    Well done interview

  • @christopherkuefler9839
    @christopherkuefler9839 Рік тому

    Tim Pierce, AKA the post master. He delivers!!!

  • @QBRX
    @QBRX 9 місяців тому

    What a cool dude!

  • @starskystar
    @starskystar Рік тому

    Thanks so much for making this video!!!!! There is so much gold here!!!!

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching, and a huge thanks to Tim for sharing his wisdom ⚡️

  • @maxblair3317
    @maxblair3317 8 місяців тому

    Woah!!! So cool to hear Tim mention Louis Cole. Such an underrated musician.

  • @davidthompson5846
    @davidthompson5846 Рік тому

    Hey Philip! What a great video. Thank you. I've listened to Tim Pierce videos many times, and I think you just drew out the key items from about a hundred other videos all in one. Some i'd heard before, but this was really nicely concise and meaningful with some new things. Thanks again - you've got a new subscriber.

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Рік тому +1

      So honored to have you here. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. Welcome!

  • @martinlawrence8427
    @martinlawrence8427 Рік тому +1

    Yoda of guitar Tim is!

  • @kehhab
    @kehhab Рік тому +1

    Thank you for asking fantastic and interesting questions. Very insightful answers to those. Tim is super!

  • @Gaddmans.Garden
    @Gaddmans.Garden Рік тому

    There will only be ONE Tim! Love this guy💪🏻👏

  • @noiseinthebasement8139
    @noiseinthebasement8139 Рік тому

    Great interview. Thanks, guys!

  • @stuffnuns
    @stuffnuns Рік тому

    Pearls of wisdom here.

  • @rmcmurphy7905
    @rmcmurphy7905 Рік тому

    To me (an amateur) especially the last parts of this advice were dead on 👍 thanks!

  • @michaelhuntley353
    @michaelhuntley353 Рік тому

    Thanks for this interview.

  • @dparrigo
    @dparrigo Рік тому

    Tim Pierce is absolutely the BEST!

  • @jeffbeckfreak54
    @jeffbeckfreak54 Рік тому

    Of all the guitar players I've watched. Tim is my number one guy. He's so good at many things.

  • @ajdoesbass
    @ajdoesbass Рік тому

    This is immensely helpful. Thank you all

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching! So glad you found this video helpful ⚡️

  • @leemichaels406
    @leemichaels406 Рік тому

    Tim is the master!

  • @fileundervalued
    @fileundervalued Рік тому

    one of the all time greats! nice work Philip

  • @jvalentif
    @jvalentif Рік тому

    I could listen to Tim for many hours at a time.

  • @choimdachoim9491
    @choimdachoim9491 Рік тому

    Great questions. Useful answers.

  • @roscius6204
    @roscius6204 Рік тому

    This is great advice....
    It's always good to stop playing. 👍👍👍 Can that be a flashing sign in every room please.

  • @zishenwang-u1j
    @zishenwang-u1j Місяць тому

    beautiful...

  • @johnnylucid
    @johnnylucid Рік тому

    Very cool. Thanks.

  • @kvmalley
    @kvmalley 10 місяців тому

    This is like a masterclass in everything one of my guitarists and I have been talking about since he came to the band in December! I’m the drummer, and we’ve got a bassist who’s a bit older than us (we’re both mid 60’s btw?). And it’s just not working, the dude is almost deaf on the low register! So he plays way too loud, is way too busy, rushes the pocket, on and on! The guitarists sent me this vid, nuff said! Thanks!

  • @drbassface
    @drbassface Рік тому

    What a great guy. Such GREAT advice.

  • @jmfs3497
    @jmfs3497 Рік тому

    I play drums in a free improvisation ensemble, and the most difficult thing is establishing a pocket. EVERYONE leaving space for the music, while also being there to support each other, is the most difficult thing to get people to think about.
    Many folks will create sound the entire time, but never step out front to take a lead, nor completely drop out and let the music breathe. They ease in, they ease out long after the rest of the band has started. Super common and they almost never latch onto anything firm. It's not all together bad, but it can get stale.
    A few people will take every note they have with all the reverb they have and never stop creating a washy lead over everyone. They will match your first note with 16 notes of their own. They start loud and if anyone tries to take the lead they leap in volume to match them, while jumping on the end of their phrases, and they seem blissfully unaware even when multiple people give them feedback about it.
    And then you have the occasional guy that ONLY takes leads, and the rest of the time sits out. Try to duet with them and they stop playing. Try to take a lead, they drop out and now you are soloing when you were hoping for support. Try to gradually drop your volume so that they come back in and they will wait until you stop playing all together, then rest for a full bar, and then come back in.

  • @brendanpmaclean
    @brendanpmaclean Рік тому +18

    That question about pocket is really relevant to me. I recently had to leave a band because I couldn’t find the pocket that the drummer was in. He has a very technical style, knows lots of little rudiments and doodats and practices them religiously. The issue is that this results in a moving pocket, it’s never consistent and try as I did, I just couldn’t find a way to fit my playing into it. Everything would be flowing and then he’d throw in one of his signature fills and everything would slow down or speed up accordingly. Used to do my head in.
    I tried, man.

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Рік тому +4

      All you can do is your best in a situation like that. Thanks for watching!

    • @semi-sound
      @semi-sound Рік тому +3

      Sounds like the guy should maybe give rudiments a rest and practise on his sense of time. I’ve seen that too in some drummers, they are so focused on their technique they forget why they’re there in the first place. And it becomes a problem for anyone who tries to play with them, (not just you). Rudiments are obviously of no use if you don’t feel time. In the 80s there was a lot of that among guitarists who wanted to be the new guitar hero - all technique and very little musicality. But music is not about athletics. And Tim’s a perfect example: He can shred if he wants to, but that’s not why he’s been one of the most trusted session guys for 40 years. It’s because he comes up with the perfect guitar parts on the spot and flawlessly plays them with heart and conviction. Listen to Goo Goo Dolls’ ”Iris” - would it even have been a massive hit without Tim’s mandolin and guitar parts? Maybe, maybe not.

    • @brendanpmaclean
      @brendanpmaclean Рік тому +3

      @@semi-sound
      Spot on. I started life as a drummer and got a lot of work because I kept things simple and played in time. Sure, I’d throw in a little flash now and again but it would be measured and within the context of the song.
      Your mention of shred guitar styles is relevant too. I recall a guitar festival in Seville years ago. There was Steve Vai with Satch and Brian May (I think) doing some incredible stuff. All really amazing, super technical etc and then Joe Walsh came on with the fattest groove ever. He was playing, I don’t know, three chords maybe but everyone in the audience boogied with him.
      I guess the lesson is to play anything you can get away with but if you don’t play it in time… get the hell off the stage!

    • @mikethebloodthirsty
      @mikethebloodthirsty Рік тому +4

      I had the same issue with a bass player, he was great on bass lines for songs, but when you'd try to jam he'd be following you right up your ass, instead of laying down a groove, so I had to try and anchor things. Luckily the drummer was solid, so it worked for a while... unfortunately the songs we had were not to my taste so was kind of glad when that band ended.

    • @mikewithers299
      @mikewithers299 Рік тому +2

      ​@mikemono7499 I totally agree. As someone who played guitar then bass then drums to fill in where someone else stepped out it's all about team work. If somebody just wants to "show boat" and take over it goes against the groove. Sharing the spotlight is a talent too. It gives others a chance to add some fills then back to the groove.

  • @admarhermans1
    @admarhermans1 Рік тому

    Great conversation, Philip!
    Must have been exciting too for you to actually play music with mr. Pierce.
    Nice photos btw.
    🖖

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Рік тому

      It was truly an honor. Thanks to Tim for the conversation and to Tilly for the photos. Thanks for watching!

  • @nazarenkodenys
    @nazarenkodenys Рік тому

    Great guy

  • @morrisgentry8624
    @morrisgentry8624 Рік тому

    Great interview!

  • @jeffcummings1985
    @jeffcummings1985 Рік тому +8

    When do we get to hear the music from that session? Tim, Phil, Rhett and Chad looks like a good combo!

    • @philipconradmusic
      @philipconradmusic  Рік тому +3

      Not sure. I can give you a clue: it will probably be on Rhett's channel soon...

  • @WizardOfArc
    @WizardOfArc Рік тому

    I’ve been following Tim for a few years now

  • @davidkadlec3518
    @davidkadlec3518 Рік тому

    Great Video

  • @muurimc
    @muurimc Рік тому

    Great video. Tim is such a legend (and did not know that he has also LIII guitar, I though that he's more vintage guy :)

  • @WhatJeanWants
    @WhatJeanWants Рік тому

    This was just great, Philip!!!

  • @Bertone
    @Bertone Рік тому

    Great interview!

  • @LizardWizard_
    @LizardWizard_ Рік тому

    Thanks! Super insightful! Great video! 🤘🏼

  • @slicksalmon6948
    @slicksalmon6948 Рік тому

    Utter brilliance. I’m a student.

  • @CGlover113
    @CGlover113 Рік тому +2

    Wait! Did Tim write my favorite riff of all time, that lives rent free in my subconscious? The soundtrack for my walking around town??? The Home Depot commercial song?