From things I have read, it would have taken close to 500 men to adequately defend the entire compound. And there were less than 200-250 total defenders.
Official number, about 189. Two of my great. great grandfather's two brothers were killed in the battle. They were manning the cannon in front of the chapel itself. Jacob and Asa Walker.....
If ur talking about our current Republic .., thankfully, it's been saved by Patriots like Speaker Pelosi, and President Biden, who snatched Authoriternism , away from the previous administration, and helped return Democracy to the people, as invisioned , by the Founders.
The city politicians think to much of catering to the commercial community. Who want to make money here. This is a battlefield , as historical as Appomattox to history. That was preserved to keep and honor the history that took place there . The Alamo can't be fully recreated , but should remove more of what doesn't belong
I've emailed the Mayor that the city should build a replica of the Alamo in the South side of town near the Texas A&M campus. Lots of tourists are disappointed to find that the chapel along with a wing of the low barracks is all that's left of the "fort". GREAR IDEA, now if the city would stop dragging its heels
reading Phil Collins books, there a page that suggest Santa Anna had General Cos tear down the walls after the siege was over but they left the church out of respect
Truly fascinating to hear how big the walled compound was. Just can't imagine how they were able to defend against any charging large force. I know, I know, you'll say.....DUH, they didn't defend, they lost. But that would have giving them like 40 men per wall.....Wow. truly brave men.
I believe a us army captain surveyed the fort weeks after the battle and he said around 1 thousand men were needed to properly defend a fort of that size. Just imagine, a thousand and there were only 189 defenders...
A Texan would tell you....because they were Texians. I had two direct relatives killed there, my self. Still make my home in San Antonio De Valero.....
They repelled a skirmish, then reppeled 4 different charges on the final confrontation before finally being overrun. But the most surprising thing was that it took Santa Anna's army, 600+ men (men that died), about 1500 men (army size) and 90 minutes on the final day to finally overun the fort.
I've emailed the Mayor that the city should build a replica of the Alamo in the South side of town near the Texas A&M campus. Lots of tourists are disappointed to find that the chapel along with a wing of the low barracks is all that's left of the "fort". GREAR IDEA, now if the city would stop dragging its heels. That would give tourists an idea of how big a compound it really was and add jobs!
The was a full size reproduction of the Alamo site built in Breckenridge about 90 miles away, now derelict. It was built as a movie set for the John Wayne version of the Alamo movie and was used as a tourist attraction and for most of the movies featuring The Alamo until it was closed in 2004 with brief reopening in 2010 and 2018.
@@weskoga8045 Right, but there's a BETTER on outside Austin where the most current Alamo was filmed, but nothing was ever done with it. Disappointing. 😕
YES , THANK YOU ,I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW THE ACTUAL SIZE OF THE WHOLE COMPLEX. FOR EXAMPLE WAS IT A QUARTER OF A MILE LONG , HOW WIDE WAS IT ?! HOW TALL IS THE ACTUAL CHURCH ALAMO. ------ MEASUREMENTS IN TRADITIONAL ENGLISH --- PLEASE . P.S. HOW HIGH WERE THE WALLS SURROUNDING THE WHOLE COMPLEX. JOHN IN U.K
There was no way 200 men could have won the battle against the Mexicans.The area was over 3 acres, so they would have needed at least four or five times that many!?
Come on San Antonians , make the Alamo , recreate the Alamo the way it was . Developers make quickly whatever they want , a shopping complex , a condominium, an insurance building? A McDonald's, a new basketball, football, building.. Can't you get those few insignificant stores relocated?? Do you honestly chose them over the Alamo ??I'm sure you all have dreams of how the entire complex could be made . The United States doesn't think about the history of the commercial stores and tourist dont come to see them .Every city in the U.S have the same type and with their own history , but all of that means squat , nothing to the Alamo. The entire Alamo grounds are sacred, venerated with the lives of the people , some of your great , great , great , great ancestors. You won't honor their sacrifice , but will the glory of money ? That is what every structure that was constructed post 1880 to 2023.
It would have taken a MINIMUM of a thousand men to fully man the perimeter of the Alamo. At the time of the battle the Texicans had just 181 men against 5,000 Mexican army troops.
I wish they had left the original buildings alone and not destroyed them. We would have been able to relive history as it was, but to the human mind many times money is their god which they lust after in the name of progress.
How the hell could any municipal/civil /state government allow a place like the Alamo to deteriorate , eventually be modified in the name of progress as if the ashes of the massacred defenders meant nothing? in TEXAS? OF ALL PLACES? They have the highest rate of capital punishment...I suppose that shows how much they value human life regardless of how it is expended. Disgrace!
The militaries of Mexico, Texas, the CSA, and the USA continued to use the Alamo as a fortress until the mid-1870s and the Catholic Church continued using the chapel until the 1880s. Most of the buildings around the Alamo are themselves over 100 years old.
Look at the civil war battlefields...shopping centers and strip centers encroaching on them. Concrete and asphalt. It's NOT just my state, Texas. It's the almighty dollar.....
Bruce winters is out and so is the DRT-good riddance. Hopefully, the true history of the Alamo can be made for the public. Crockett surrendered to the Mexican soldiers only to be executed moments later. Travis committed suicide at the north wall, and Bowie was killed in bed, offering no resistance at all, some heroes!
@@projecttwentytwentyfiveisgreat Sorry to disappoint you Jed, but this is what really happened to me at the parking lot. When that group of armed cowardly trumpies came at me with all their weapons, I pulled out mine, and just the mere sight of it, scared the shit out of them. They're only brave when their intended victim is NOT armed and alone, and then like the cowards they are, they bush wacked him, and then think they are brave when the odds are in their favor: 20 to 1, and the 1 is the victim. So like their fake leader, General Bone-spurs, they are cowards...all too easy kid!
So sad that all of this wasn't preserved
De Zavalla ironically was the person who SAVED the Alamo otherwise it would've been torn down COMPLETLY
As a kid growing up in San Antonio we joked that both Santa Anna and Travis, Bowie, and Crockett shopped at Joskys.
From things I have read, it would have taken close to 500 men to adequately defend the entire compound. And there were less than 200-250 total defenders.
it might have been a different story if Fannin had made it
Official number, about 189. Two of my great. great grandfather's two brothers were killed in the battle. They were manning the cannon in front of the chapel itself. Jacob and Asa Walker.....
@@woof3598 True. I think he must have been a democrat....
@@rustysawyers5109 What an idiotic thing to say.
Great job with the video!
Great perspective piece! gives me a different appraisal of the daunting position of the defenders. May god rest their souls🙏
I still smile when I remember the woman who said, "I don't see how a hundred and eighty men could fit in that one small building."
Right San Jose mission is just a few mile south of the city or less than 8 miles from the Alamo
It's sad to see what's happened to our great Republic in less than 1 year. Remember the Alamo! VIVA Texas!
If ur talking about our current
Republic .., thankfully, it's been saved by
Patriots like
Speaker
Pelosi, and
President
Biden, who snatched
Authoriternism , away from the previous administration, and helped return
Democracy to the people, as invisioned , by the
Founders.
Go tour San Jose Mission.and you'll have a better idea of what The Alamo looked like in its prime and how big it was.
The city politicians think to much of catering to the commercial community. Who want to make money here. This is a battlefield , as historical as Appomattox to history. That was preserved to keep and honor the history that took place there . The Alamo can't be fully recreated , but should remove more of what doesn't belong
I've emailed the Mayor that the city should build a replica of the Alamo in the South side of town near the Texas A&M campus. Lots of tourists are disappointed to find that the chapel along with a wing of the low barracks is all that's left of the "fort". GREAR IDEA, now if the city would stop dragging its heels
reading Phil Collins books, there a page that suggest Santa Anna had General Cos tear down the walls after the siege was over but they left the church out of respect
Heard on another video that the outer walls were torn down to put up those buildings before their historical significance was realized.
De Zavalla ironically was the person who SAVED the Alamo
The Alamo’s original location was near San Pedro
The original was wooden. It was relocated likely to be closer to the river. Of course it was then built of stone.
Very true. Moved and relocated in 1718....
Truly fascinating to hear how big the walled compound was. Just can't imagine how they were able to defend against any charging large force. I know, I know, you'll say.....DUH, they didn't defend, they lost. But that would have giving them like 40 men per wall.....Wow. truly brave men.
I believe a us army captain surveyed the fort weeks after the battle and he said around 1 thousand men were needed to properly defend a fort of that size. Just imagine, a thousand and there were only 189 defenders...
A Texan would tell you....because they were Texians. I had two direct relatives killed there, my self. Still make my home in San Antonio De Valero.....
They repelled a skirmish, then reppeled 4 different charges on the final confrontation before finally being overrun. But the most surprising thing was that it took Santa Anna's army, 600+ men (men that died), about 1500 men (army size) and 90 minutes on the final day to finally overun the fort.
I've emailed the Mayor that the city should build a replica of the Alamo in the South side of town near the Texas A&M campus. Lots of tourists are disappointed to find that the chapel along with a wing of the low barracks is all that's left of the "fort". GREAR IDEA, now if the city would stop dragging its heels. That would give tourists an idea of how big a compound it really was and add jobs!
The was a full size reproduction of the Alamo site built in Breckenridge about 90 miles away, now derelict. It was built as a movie set for the John Wayne version of the Alamo movie and was used as a tourist attraction and for most of the movies featuring The Alamo until it was closed in 2004 with brief reopening in 2010 and 2018.
@@weskoga8045 Right, but there's a BETTER on outside Austin where the most current Alamo was filmed, but nothing was ever done with it. Disappointing. 😕
Was the area behind the church also a part of the compound?
Why didn’t you show the basement?
Old, lame joke.
YES , THANK YOU ,I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO KNOW THE ACTUAL SIZE OF THE WHOLE COMPLEX. FOR EXAMPLE WAS IT A QUARTER OF A MILE LONG , HOW WIDE WAS IT ?! HOW TALL IS THE ACTUAL CHURCH ALAMO. ------ MEASUREMENTS IN TRADITIONAL ENGLISH --- PLEASE . P.S. HOW HIGH WERE THE WALLS SURROUNDING THE WHOLE COMPLEX. JOHN IN U.K
Wishes they'd kept the alamo untouched
Wasnt impressed my first visit seeing a hotel bill board behind and above the mission
There was no way 200 men could have won the battle against the Mexicans.The area was over 3 acres, so they would have needed at least four or five times that many!?
Cool!
The Church was small.
Come on San Antonians , make the Alamo , recreate the Alamo the way it was . Developers make quickly whatever they want , a shopping complex , a condominium, an insurance building? A McDonald's, a new basketball, football, building.. Can't you get those few insignificant stores relocated?? Do you honestly chose them over the Alamo ??I'm sure you all have dreams of how the entire complex could be made . The United States doesn't think about the history of the commercial stores and tourist dont come to see them .Every city in the U.S have the same type and with their own history , but all of that means squat , nothing to the Alamo. The entire Alamo grounds are sacred, venerated with the lives of the people , some of your great , great , great , great ancestors. You won't honor their sacrifice , but will the glory of money ? That is what every structure that was constructed post 1880 to 2023.
It would have taken a MINIMUM of a thousand men to fully man the perimeter of the Alamo. At the time of the battle the Texicans had just 181 men against 5,000 Mexican army troops.
Yes. That's life.
I wish they had left the original buildings alone and not destroyed them. We would have been able to relive history as it was, but to the human mind many times money is their god which they lust after in the name of progress.
Most of the buildings were already in ruins. And after the battle, the Mexican army destroyed many of them.
How the hell could any municipal/civil /state government allow a place like the Alamo to deteriorate , eventually be modified in the name of progress as if the ashes of the massacred defenders meant nothing? in TEXAS? OF ALL PLACES? They have the highest rate of capital punishment...I suppose that shows how much they value human life regardless of how it is expended. Disgrace!
San Antonio city government is in the back pocket of developers and leftist democrats. They constantly let historical sites slip into the dust.
It started a long time ago probably with the Good governmental League
The militaries of Mexico, Texas, the CSA, and the USA continued to use the Alamo as a fortress until the mid-1870s and the Catholic Church continued using the chapel until the 1880s. Most of the buildings around the Alamo are themselves over 100 years old.
Look at the civil war battlefields...shopping centers and strip centers encroaching on them. Concrete and asphalt.
It's NOT just my state, Texas. It's the almighty dollar.....
Bruce winters is out and so is the DRT-good riddance. Hopefully, the true history of the Alamo can be made for the public. Crockett surrendered to the Mexican soldiers only to be executed moments later. Travis committed suicide at the north wall, and Bowie was killed in bed, offering no resistance at all, some heroes!
Do you have a new book or two coming out?
Are you the same Roger Borroel who attempted to have his military record changed in 2007?
I heard you were dead. Saw an article about a guy with your name, got jumped in a parking lot, crowbar or something. Never found the attacker.
@@projecttwentytwentyfiveisgreat Sorry to disappoint you Jed, but this is what really happened to me at the parking lot. When that group of armed cowardly trumpies came at me with all their weapons, I pulled out mine, and just the mere sight of it, scared the shit out of them. They're only brave when their intended victim is NOT armed and alone, and then like the cowards they are, they bush wacked him, and then think they are brave when the odds are in their favor: 20 to 1, and the 1 is the victim. So like their fake leader, General Bone-spurs, they are cowards...all too easy kid!
@@Nimgimmer1492 Yes, but all copies have been sold already.