After examining the layout of the Alamo for the first time I was shocked to realize the place was not a fort at all but rather a poorly protected enclosure of earthworks and barricaded buildings. The Alamo was basically indefensible with low walls without parapets for shelter or just a wooden palisade.
Modern day National Guardsmen, in war games, tried to defend the mission and said it was indefensible! That is why Col. Bowie and his men, with the aid of a junior Mexican officer, was able to take the mission away from General Martín Perfecto de Cos.
It was built by the Catholics as mission. There are 5 in San Antonio. It was never finished, and was turned into a poor version of a Spanish presidio. Come to San Antonio in a few years once the original footprint is restored and a new museum opens.
they're rebuilting the South wall and barracks where Bowie was killed as I type now! Went downtown about a month ago and was surprised at the construction! High time.
Honor never dies, they live in the hearts of the free for all time, every time a tyrant is vanquished or men give the last full measure for a noble cause they live, their spirit was on Wake Island and at the Bulge in Bastogne and countless other places. liberated by men well aware of the cost, and what they purchased with their sacrifice is eternally priceless. You only truly die when you are not remembered, and I refuse to forget because if we do the world will be void of light.
Riiiight Victor. you've come here to troll, to stir up things with your simplistic, revisionist progressive mendacity as you've demonstrated here and further down. You're a bore to everyone but yourself.
There was a little boy of Mexican descent whose family went into the Alamo because his father was one of the defenders. The boy survived and lived to be old. He gave an interview to the San Antonio newspaper in about 1903 which I read online. Reading that was the first time this thing became real to me. He said the only person who ever talked to everyone was Crockett, that he never saw Travis or Bowie. He said he'd fallen into the river a few weeks earlier and it was Bowie who dived in and saved him but that he was too sick to appear at the Alamo standoff. The battle itself was fought in pitch dark before sunup. He and his mother and family hid in one of the rooms and Mexican soldiers almost shot them. The sun was up when they were allowed to leave and he said it was a scene of gore and carnage that was forever "burned into my brain." He was eloquent. Google it if you can. It made it real to me and not a movie or something idealized. it was a really tragic, dark thing, like a mass murder. Take care.
Remember the porvenir massacre of innocent Mexicans by the Texas Rangers , that was more gore!!! Now, that was mass murder of unarmed men. The people at the Alamo were renegades, criminals.
Undoubtedly the Mexican soldiers did not know or care who they were fighting to the death, many of them also were being killed in the intense combat, it was a matter of survival and getting some revenge for fallen comrades even if they enjoyed numerical superiority. Their commander SantaAnna had little regard for the welfare of his own expendable men in pursuit of ambitions.
@victor soto Lies taking troops into harms way in Korea, VN, etc were peddled by civilian politicians who set the policy, military commanders follow the constitutional orders. And personnel in battle at D Day, Iwo Jima, were carrying out their missions as fighting men. Santa Anna was a military dictator following Napoleon and preceeding Stalin, Hitler, Mussiloni, Mao, Pol Pot, and Castro. and if he had the technology at his disposal that the 20th Century monsters had, he would have been right up there among them with the body count. And given the chance Vlad the impaler Putin will strike out at humanity as well. Mexican rank and file were brave and courageous soldiers, unfortunate that they were led by evil doing top leadership and substandard middle level officers and noncoms.
@victor soto Your insolent accusatory tone indicates you're a leftist. I would not rebutt your observation by saying you drink koolaid. Lets keep politics out of academia and be civil in exchange of ideas. Soldiers do their duty as lawfully ordered by civilian administration democratically elected under the American system.. Sometimes they are morally wrong no doubt but at least that can be intellectually discovered, remedied, and analysed under our system. If you prefer leftist tyranny all this would be censored and concealed to save face. Like the chinese communist party just covered up and spread the covid 19 virus.
Who cares about of bunch of nutballs fighting to the death to defend SLAVERY? Your heroes were racist White supremacists. The Mexicans had the moral high ground on this one, but that's not what Texas history schools like to teach. The Mexicans were against slavery, but the White Anglos wanted to protect their "property", i.e. African/black slaves that they viewed as sub-humans. Legal or not, the White Anglos were morally repugnant. The whole Alamo story has been huckstered to death for over 180 years now. What's your rebutall going to be? Call me a commie like you did that other guy?
Scores of Mayateca conscripts died of exposure to cold after entering Texas in March weather. Santa Ana didn't care to provide them with warm clothing or firewood. An indirect cause of two bloody Yucatan insurrections in the years to come.
I read an account of Dickinson and she said his body was between the chapel and the long barracks...which I have walked around and guessed its near the spot where the flagpole is.
@@daniellastuart3145 You are ignorant of history. The heroes of the Alamo did not bring slavery to Texas. Mexico didn’t abolish slavery until 1829. It had slavery when Texas was still a part of Mexico. Also only a few of the Alamo defenders held slaves. Most people couldn’t afford them. Also the native Americans enslaved each other in Texas long before either Mexico or Texans held slaves. So no. Wrong.
I think any depiction of the Alamo battle could avoid the controversy over Crockett's death by artistically alluding to him getting lost in the chaos, never to be seen alive again. Disney's & John Wayne's Crockett died fighting, while the Crockett in the 2004 film "The Alamo" was shown being executed. I have yet to see a film where Crockett simply vanishes. That would be a new take entirely, and I think it would work well with the audience.
Honestly, I did spoke to a medium about the Big Three's deaths. So far travis was spot on, Bowie was like the guy said. Crockett, however, was very controversial that it'll be blasphemous among texans. All I can say about crockett is that he was not captured, he did die in the battle, leave it at that
Well, I'll throw a wrench in the mix. Santa Anna, Sam Houston and David Crockett were ALL Freemasons! Houston saved Santa Anna's life when he was captured because of that. What's to say that Crockett flashed the "distress" signal to Santa Anna when he was captured and complied SA to release Crockett? Other officers in the Mexican army were surely Free Masons also. THIS could've given rise to the story that Crockett went on and lived a peaceful life in Alabama. What say ye? 🤔
I went to the Alamo I went to the long Barack I saw Davy Crockett’s gun his gun was cracked a little bit on the barrel of the gun that tells me that Davy Crockett fight like a tiger
@@SKY-jv9ue Yeah that's YOU buddy. There are so many inconsistencies with the "Crockett capture/surrender/execution" theory; yet you dismiss all of the accounts of at least 4 survivors who could reliably identify David Crockett's body among the slain surrounded by heaps of dead Mexican soldiers. Seams to me you are the sucker for tall tales incoherently told by ignorant Mexican soldiers. 👏👏 But yeah, you are definitely the "comprehensive" expert on all things Alamo related here to set us all straight. 👏👏 Tell me MR. COMPREHENSIVE, you must be a believer in the vision of "Reconquista"?
The latest version is: Crockett was the last one to be put to the bayonet, but he gave the Mason `Sign of Distress' and since Santa Anna was a Mason, Crockett was spared. He had been shot in the arm and had a sever head wound from a tomahawk. Santa Anna had Crockett placed in a hospital and his wounds tended to till he heal up. (Texian Doctors at Goliad were spared and sent to San Antonio to tend to Santa Anna's 600+ wounded soldiers.) Then Gen. Houston spared Santa Anna's life because Houston too was a Mason. Crockett was given a land grant by POTUS Buchannan (20 years after the Alamo), and lived out his life back in Sweet Home Alabama. (According to the History Channel.) BTW, 3 times as many Texians died at Goliad but no Major Films have been made about those brave men there who lost their lives in battle and after they surrendered with conditions, or in Gonzales were Texians fought bravely, ('Come and Take It'), or in Refugio were two battles were fought bravely and men died! The Texians were slaughtered after captured or after they surrendered!
@@northernlight4614 It was Gen. Santa Anna who was guilty of WAR CRIMES! The ALAMO: That mission was NOT a fort and was as big as the 'Daytona Speedway'. It was foolish for 180+ men to try and defend it. Col. Fannin sent two hundred men to the Alamo, (Col. Fannin did not want to go himself for he knew he would be under Lt. Col. Travis’ Command), but when his soldiers saw it surrounded by 1,000's, they knew they could not relive it; so they returned to Goliad. At least they had a fort in Goliad. Both places were taken from Mexican garrisons. Neither place could stand against Santa Anna's Cannons, or his vast numbers of soldiers. Col. James Fannin, Lt. Col. William Travis and Col. James Bowie, all defied orders to leave their cannons, abandon their positions and hook up with Gen. Houston in Gonzales! Col. Fannin had sent Col. John Forbes south to collect Anglos and Saxons for Santa Anna swore to kill them all. Col. Forbes and his men were attacked and captured and all executed in Refugio. Col. Fannin sent more men to find Col. Forbes they were ambushed and the survivors were executed too. After 5 days Fannin finally left his fort in Goliad, WITH his cannons, and was caught in an open field half way, not to Gen. Houston, but to Victoria, TX. I guess you know the rest of that story. I’ve been to San Antonio, Gonzales, Refugio, and on ‘The Death March’ in Goliad. (Modern Army Troops have tried to defend ‘The Alamo Movie Set’ in Brackettville, TX. and say it is un-defendable!) Yes, Fannin did go to west point, (how many years?), but I don't think he graduated. The Alamo was as big as the Daytona Speedway and was only a mission. Its cannons are what killed the most Mexicans. 600+ dead & 700+ wounded. Fannin had sent John Forbes south to rescue the Anglos and Saxons for Santa Anna pledged to kill them all. So Col. Fannin delayed orders to abandon his fort and meet up with Gen. Houston for 5 days. He was also ordered to leave the cannons behind for they would slow his retreat down. He disobeyed those orders too, got caught in the open, heading towards Victoria, by Mexican Calvary, fought till nightfall, (a person can't see for a while, after you fired your rifle at night), the next morning the Mexican Artillery showed up. Now Fannin had placed his soldiers in a perfect 5 acre square, (which is what his Military training taught him to do), and entrenched them. But when the Mexican artillery open fire the next morning, the shots went over the Texians heads and landed at the exposed backs of the ones across the 5-acre square. After several volleys of chain and ball, Texians were killed or wounded including Fannin who was hit in the leg. Fannin saw where this was going...and it was either be slaughtered or come to terms of surrender. Which he did, they were to lay down arms marched back to the Presidio, then groups of them were to be marched to Louisiana, given back their money, personal belongings, weapons and had promised not to return and fight for Gen. Houston. Fannin's Doctors were sent to the Alamo to attend the wounded Mexicans soldiers there. After several days of sleeping standing up inside the packed Chapel Room, with no food or water, the Texians were march out in 3 groups. 1st group to the N/E towards Louisiana, [they were told they would be given their rifles and personal belongings back when they got to Louisiana and all Fannin’s troops signed an agreement they would never take up arms again against Gen. Santa Anna], 2nd group to the S/E to supposedly to gather wood, and the 3rd group to the S/W to milk cows. When they got a couple miles away from the Presidio…They were lined up and shot and butchered and robbed. (A few men escaped to tell the tale! The young water boys were spared.) Then, Fannin's wounded men were brought out of the Chapel, were leaned against and lined up along the outside Chapel Wall, and Fannin was forced to watch, as his men were shot, and robbed. When asked for his last request, Col. Fannin said, "Don't shoot me in the face, so my family can attend my funeral and give my money and belongings to them". They said, "OK"! Then shot him in the face and robbed him! What the Mexicans did at the Alamo, Refugio and Goliad is why the Mexican Soldiers were butchered at `The Battle San Jacinto’ for hours and hours!
@@rickyrichards7596 None of Fannin's men made it anywhere close to the Alamo. The rescue was aborted due to broken down wagons and oxen that wandered off. Also the Mexican soldiers were not butcheted for hours and hours. The battle was over in 20 minutes.
Gone down fighting or shot against the wall , he died a hero. Every man Jack to a man that died that day died hero's , a battle won that cost the enemy the war and gave America the state of Texas.
Who cares about of bunch of nutballs fighting to the death to defend SLAVERY? Your heroes were racist White supremacists. The Mexicans had the moral high ground on this one, but that's not what Texas history schools like to teach. The Mexicans were against slavery, but the White Anglos wanted to protect their "property", i.e. African/black slaves that they viewed as sub-humans. Legal or not, the White Anglos were morally repugnant. The whole Alamo story has been huckstered to death for over 180 years now.
because of where mrs. dickinson saw crockett's body, he most likely died fighting. all the versions of the captured men's executions take place outside the alamo at santa ana's hq. had crockett been one of them, his body would not have been in front of the chapel. as for the legend of bowie fighting from his bed and killing 1 or 2 of the soldiers attacking him, this depends entirely on how sick he was that morning. if he was in bad shape, he probably couldn't have fought back. if he was in fair shape, the legend may be true. in either case, we will probably never know for sure.
In reality, they ran and hid inside the walls of an abandon mission and remained there for thirteen days, in hopes that Sam Houston would arrive w his troops and try to negotiate w Mexico. On the dawn of March 6th, Mexico and its troops decided to wait no further and launched their atttack. Within 30 minutes of their first wave of attack, Mexico had regain possession of the old mission. David Crockett and 7 of his men had surrendered to the Mexican force's and their lives may have been spared, if not for the arrogance actions of William Travis thru out the 13 days of negotiations. David Crockett surrendering to Mexican forces is easy to understand, for he never intended to arrive in Mexico and fight. He and his traveling companions simply arrived, literally at the wrong time.
There are stories that he died in front of the chapel which i kind of believed because i think that travis would have him man a postion close to the chapel but i really don't know who is right or where he died at all i know is he was a hero and died at the Alamo..
What happen to the defenders bodies after the battle. I know they were stacked up and set ablaze. What happen to their remain? Also, Did Houston visited the Alamo after he defeated Santa Ana?
They were buried by Juan seguin in an unmarked location. The location has never been found. many think a chapel contains the remains of the defenders. But the chapel has Mexican uniforms in it. But no attempt of a DNA test has ever been attempted. Relatives of the defenders are alive today and can possibly be able to perform a DNA test. But out of respect for the supposed remains they are untouched.
Since there seems to be such definite evidence for both endings to Davy Crockett, all I can think is that two men were dressed similarly, and in the confusion one of them was mistaken for Crockett? Or conversely, in the throes of his last resistance, Crockett was seen to go down by Susannah Dickinson, who thought she saw him die, but in reality the exertion and loss of blood had knocked him unconscious and he was, found just coming too when the Mexicans searched the bodies? Only my guesswork, but it does seem to fit the contradictory evidence!
You people need to read the book that only a few were published of the Diary that was found and authenticated by Texas A&M . THE DIARY belonged to the Lieutenant Aide to Santa Anna by the name of Jose Enrique de la Peña . He gives the account of how those defenders were caught hiding in a back room Brought outside and were executed by Firing Squad . Only a few were published, because the daughters of the Republic of Texas stopped Publication . I read it , because my brother has a copy of it, he had a relative that died at the Mission San Antonio De Valero , otherwise known by the (Alamo) , which means Cottonwood Tree .
@@lestermount3287 Thats your opinion Lester boy.! Sounds more to me that you hate Mexicans ! This diary was authenticated by Texas AM ..they did a lot of research and no where is found that he Hated Texans....He was my.Com. side to. Gen.Santa Anna. Why don't you try reading the book first before you past judgement.
@@lestermount3287 Who cares about of bunch of nutballs fighting to the death to defend SLAVERY? Your heroes were racist White supremacists. The Mexicans had the moral high ground on this one, but that's not what Texas history schools like to teach. The Mexicans were against slavery, but the White Anglos wanted to protect their "property", i.e. African/black slaves that they viewed as sub-humans. Legal or not, the White Anglos were morally repugnant. The whole Alamo story has been huckstered to death for over 180 years now.
Today the Alamo disrespect the immortal memory of Crocket and Bowie. By flying an Irish Tri-Colour in representation of their origins. They were both of Presbyterian stock and ULSTER SCOTS.
@@Hobby_Workbench The Crocketts originally were of mostly French-Huguenot ancestry, although the family had settled in Ulster in the north of Ireland before migrating to the Americas.
@@Hobby_Workbench Yeah, but his grandparents came from Europe. By the way…..David Crockett hated being called “Davy”. Probably blame the old Disney movies and Hollywood for that one. Or people from the old days who didn’t know better.
A new theory suggests that Davy Crockett survived the Alamo and escaped the carnage. The theory says he hid away from the public spotlight under a different name and moved to California during the Gold Rush where he opened a saloon in one of the mining towns (A deed to a saloon is signed D. Crockett) before dying of old age peacefully in 1870.
Ive heard same stories. I recently saw where a land title was found in Alabama and that title was signed David Crockett. Date of title was in the 1850s. According to some experts, that signature matched up to David's signature from his days in congress. Davy Crockett was a Mason. So was General Santa Anna. Its believed thats why David's life may have been spared.
You had to go through Crockett to get to Travis . Travis was killed fighting in his bed . Crockett was found dead on the outside wall before that happened . The Last line of defense from Travis was Crockett's Defense . This tells the picture of the Finale : He Fell Fighting as they all did.
Crockett and his men manned the south palisades wall by the church. It was the weakest area of the Alamo since there were no walls there. Not exactly the last line of defense.
That’s mentioned in another video by the Alamo. The question is how many left and nobody knows how many. From what I understand even Mexican accounts vary
@@crazydacey they think about 40 left. when the mexican came over thenorth wall. 10-20 defenders on the west wall jumped over and ran to the river. they fired their weapons but were surrounded and killed. 10-20 Defenders in the cattle pin at the south wall, saw the mexican take the 18 pounder cannon and made a run for it. and went around the alamo and ran into a seemly open plan but were run down by mexican calvery. they fired their weapons but they were eventually run down and killed. most were unable to make a run for it. By the time crockett and his men realized the mexicans were over the wall it was too late to make a run for it. Crockett and his men were surrounded and the only hope was the long barracks and the chapol.
I cant say what happen or who was right or wrong but as history has said who is a dictator and who is interlopers the americans were considerd interlopers but santa anna was a dictator the americans were fighting for wrights, freedom and there familes and the constatution of 1824 santa anna tried to take all these things away from these americans they faught they died mexicons killed them but they were better men they faught 20 times there number and lost but we won because of the americans in the Alamo and the battle with Sam Huston
They went into a mission, raised a flag, well armed, wrote the most defiant letter. Fought for thirteen days, last day was 90 min not 30. Tony. There isn’t another way to say this. If you don’t recognize this, you are a WEAK person.
@@northernlight4614 I dont think they would jump over the west wall because in the picture in the 13th day video on this channel it shows alot of men by the west wall and Calvary would most likely sweep east i think it was the east wall
People should keep in mind that the defenders of the Alamo were not heroes. They were land grabbers who wanted land to grow cotton and for that they needed slaves. The Mexican government had outlawed slavery, so the real heroes were the Mexican army.
@@Nimgimmer1492I wish I could go back in time and examine everything that lead to this battle actually be in the battle but I couldn’t die in the battle or come back to life lol
What the gentleman states in this film clip is hearsay, and pure speculation. This is a good example of an American historian being one-sided, and not using Mexican eyewitness accounts of the deaths of the three men mentioned. Imagine a book on the Battle of Gettysburg, and the southern side is completely ignored! Davy Crockett was found hiding, was captured, and executed moments later. Bowie was found hiding under a mattress, was pulled out, and killed on the spot. The Mexican troops state that he died like a woman, covered in his bed sheets. Travis, when he saw all was lost, pull out his pistol, and shot himself in the head. And this was reported by one of Col. Seguin's men on the day of the battle. Joe, Travis' slave, states that he ran off and hid in one of the rooms, and saw nothing of the battle. His account was written not by him, but by a newspaper man, and is just hearsay and lies. Lastly, close to 125 Alamo defenders jumped the walls, and were lanced down outside the Alamo compound by Gen. Sesma's lancers. Yes, we do know how many of the defenders died that day. BTW, 60 Mexican soldiers were killed that day too...oh, this little detail is always left out!!!!
Yes, no problem. For Crockett's death, there's the Col. De la Pena account in the text, WITH SANTA ANNA in TEXAS. Then, there's Col. Urizza's account (an officer on S.A's staff), who name's the prisoner as, "Coket." This is from Dr. D.N. Labadie, who interviewed Urizza at the San Jacinto location. The account appeared in the Texas Almanac, 1859, by a Mr. James M. Day. As for Travis' death, it came on the day of the battle, from two of Col. Seguin's men, Anselmo Vergara, and Andres Barcena, who in turned, told Houston, when he was at Gonzales. As for Bowie, there are many sources, one is from Lt. Col. Sanchez Navarro, who wrote a letter to his brother in a Mexican newspaper, and wrote about it in his published journal, that can be gotten easily. I hope this helps a bit, for you.
LoneStar Leo Crocket was not found hiding there are several accounts of his “spirited” defense of the Alamo. Travis died fighting on the north wall. Bowie was not hiding under his mattress, he was sick in bed. Nothing in the many records regarding the character of these men even remotely suggests cowardice of any kind.
Most of those so-called defenders were foreign fighters . Not native to Tejas . In reality they were illegal immigrants from the colonies . It was akin to a bank robber that dies in a shootout while robbing a bank . Was the bank robber defending the bank or killed in the commission of a crime ?
@vidstar1 Earth to vidstar....Tony Lopez and his general staff were ALL white, whereas many of the defenders were part native American from places like Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, Ohio and elsewhere back EAST!! Please don't blame the Common Core educational system!!
try again. They were not illegals the Mexican government brought in foreigners to live in Texas since they could not control the land and the Indians controlled everything. When Santa Anna dismissed the congress and ignored the Constitution many including Latins rebelled
1-Travis committed suicide at the north wall, when he saw all was lost. 2-As the world knows, Crockett surrendered to the Mexican soldiery, only to be executed moments later. 3-Bowie, that slaver and con man, died on his cot, never fighting at all. Over 100 Alamo defenders ran out of the Slamo compound, only to be killed by Gen. Sesma's cavalry. So folks, you now have it! I feel proud to see many peoples celebrate a MEXICAN victory for all time!
After examining the layout of the Alamo for the first time I was shocked to realize the place was not a fort at all but rather a poorly protected enclosure of earthworks and barricaded buildings. The Alamo was basically indefensible with low walls without parapets for shelter or just a wooden palisade.
Modern day National Guardsmen, in war games, tried to defend the mission and said it was indefensible!
That is why Col. Bowie and his men, with the aid of a junior Mexican officer, was able to take the mission away from General Martín Perfecto de Cos.
It was built by the Catholics as mission. There are 5 in San Antonio. It was never finished, and was turned into a poor version of a Spanish presidio. Come to San Antonio in a few years once the original footprint is restored and a new museum opens.
they're rebuilting the South wall and barracks where Bowie was killed as I type now! Went downtown about a month ago and was surprised at the construction! High time.
Honor never dies, they live in the hearts of the free for all time, every time a tyrant is vanquished or men give the last full measure for a noble cause they live, their spirit was on Wake Island and at the Bulge in Bastogne and countless other places. liberated by men well aware of the cost, and what they purchased with their sacrifice is eternally priceless. You only truly die when you are not remembered, and I refuse to forget because if we do the world will be void of light.
Chacote Outdoor Recreation Well Said!
Riiiight Victor. you've come here to troll, to stir up things with your simplistic, revisionist progressive mendacity as you've demonstrated here and further down. You're a bore to everyone but yourself.
Let's go defend slavery in that church over there Billy Boby! Yee-haw!!
Amen
Victory or Death!
There was a little boy of Mexican descent whose family went into the Alamo because his father was one of the defenders. The boy survived and lived to be old. He gave an interview to the San Antonio newspaper in about 1903 which I read online. Reading that was the first time this thing became real to me. He said the only person who ever talked to everyone was Crockett, that he never saw Travis or Bowie. He said he'd fallen into the river a few weeks earlier and it was Bowie who dived in and saved him but that he was too sick to appear at the Alamo standoff. The battle itself was fought in pitch dark before sunup. He and his mother and family hid in one of the rooms and Mexican soldiers almost shot them. The sun was up when they were allowed to leave and he said it was a scene of gore and carnage that was forever "burned into my brain." He was eloquent. Google it if you can. It made it real to me and not a movie or something idealized. it was a really tragic, dark thing, like a mass murder. Take care.
Enrique Esparza. One of the reasons Jim Bowie received the nickname “Saint James”. He saved a little boy from drowning.
Plenty of Mexicans died defending the Alamo.
Remember the porvenir massacre of innocent Mexicans by the Texas Rangers , that was more gore!!! Now, that was mass murder of unarmed men. The people at the Alamo were renegades, criminals.
@@pasofino9583. How do you know? Where you actually there???
@@marthagomez7335 it’s written on the Alamo memorial, and yes I was there.
Undoubtedly the Mexican soldiers did not know or care who they were fighting to the death, many of them also were being killed in the intense combat, it was a matter of survival and getting some revenge for fallen comrades even if they enjoyed numerical superiority. Their commander SantaAnna had little regard for the welfare of his own expendable men in pursuit of ambitions.
@victor soto Lies taking troops into harms way in Korea, VN, etc were peddled by civilian politicians who set the policy, military commanders follow the constitutional orders. And personnel in battle at D Day, Iwo Jima, were carrying out their missions as fighting men. Santa Anna was a military dictator following Napoleon and preceeding Stalin, Hitler, Mussiloni, Mao, Pol Pot, and Castro. and if he had the technology at his disposal that the 20th Century monsters had, he would have been right up there among them with the body count. And given the chance Vlad the impaler Putin will strike out at humanity as well. Mexican rank and file were brave and courageous soldiers, unfortunate that they were led by evil doing top leadership and substandard middle level officers and noncoms.
@victor soto Your insolent accusatory tone indicates you're a leftist. I would not rebutt your observation by saying you drink koolaid. Lets keep politics out of academia and be civil in exchange of ideas. Soldiers do their duty as lawfully ordered by civilian administration democratically elected under the American system.. Sometimes they are morally wrong no doubt but at least that can be intellectually discovered, remedied, and analysed under our system. If you prefer leftist tyranny all this would be censored and concealed to save face. Like the chinese communist party just covered up and spread the covid 19 virus.
@@richardkluesek4301 Don't waste your time on the little troll.
Who cares about of bunch of nutballs fighting to the death to defend SLAVERY? Your heroes were racist White supremacists. The Mexicans had the moral high ground on this one, but that's not what Texas history schools like to teach. The Mexicans were against slavery, but the White Anglos wanted to protect their "property", i.e. African/black slaves that they viewed as sub-humans. Legal or not, the White Anglos were morally repugnant. The whole Alamo story has been huckstered to death for over 180 years now. What's your rebutall going to be? Call me a commie like you did that other guy?
Scores of Mayateca conscripts died of exposure to cold after entering Texas in March weather. Santa Ana didn't care to provide them with warm clothing or firewood. An indirect cause of two bloody Yucatan insurrections in the years to come.
I read an account of Dickinson and she said his body was between the chapel and the long barracks...which I have walked around and guessed its near the spot where the flagpole is.
The heroes of the Alamo will always live in the hearts of free men everywhere.
Amen Richard
They were free being from Mexico
The fact they brought slavery to Texas do not sound like heroes to me
@@daniellastuart3145
You are ignorant of history. The heroes of the Alamo did not bring slavery to Texas. Mexico didn’t abolish slavery until 1829. It had slavery when Texas was still a part of Mexico. Also only a few of the Alamo defenders held slaves. Most people couldn’t afford them. Also the native Americans enslaved each other in Texas long before either Mexico or Texans held slaves. So no. Wrong.
@@daniellastuart3145 slavery was rampant in every territory on the planet at the time. You can’t learn history from sensational news channels.
I think any depiction of the Alamo battle could avoid the controversy over Crockett's death by artistically alluding to him getting lost in the chaos, never to be seen alive again. Disney's & John Wayne's Crockett died fighting, while the Crockett in the 2004 film "The Alamo" was shown being executed. I have yet to see a film where Crockett simply vanishes. That would be a new take entirely, and I think it would work well with the audience.
Honestly, I did spoke to a medium about the Big Three's deaths. So far travis was spot on, Bowie was like the guy said. Crockett, however, was very controversial that it'll be blasphemous among texans. All I can say about crockett is that he was not captured, he did die in the battle, leave it at that
@@JordanDavila well why don’t you just tell me I ain’t Texan lol
Very cute. But that shit won't work in real life
Well, I'll throw a wrench in the mix. Santa Anna, Sam Houston and David Crockett were ALL Freemasons! Houston saved Santa Anna's life when he was captured because of that. What's to say that Crockett flashed the "distress" signal to Santa Anna when he was captured and complied SA to release Crockett? Other officers in the Mexican army were surely Free Masons also. THIS could've given rise to the story that Crockett went on and lived a peaceful life in Alabama. What say ye? 🤔
Think of it as taking 13 days to overcome the Alamo and only 18 minutes to overcome the "victors" thereof
I went to the Alamo I went to the long Barack I saw Davy Crockett’s gun his gun was cracked a little bit on the barrel of the gun that tells me that Davy Crockett fight like a tiger
Yep, there's a sucker born every minute!
@@SKY-jv9ue Yeah that's YOU buddy. There are so many inconsistencies with the "Crockett capture/surrender/execution" theory; yet you dismiss all of the accounts of at least 4 survivors who could reliably identify David Crockett's body among the slain surrounded by heaps of dead Mexican soldiers. Seams to me you are the sucker for tall tales incoherently told by ignorant Mexican soldiers. 👏👏 But yeah, you are definitely the "comprehensive" expert on all things Alamo related here to set us all straight. 👏👏 Tell me MR. COMPREHENSIVE, you must be a believer in the vision of "Reconquista"?
His gun is there?
@@northernlight4614 It’s his gun but not his gun used at the Alamo.
@@pw1779
They identified his body but hard to say about the "heaps of slain Mexicans".
Who said that?
The latest version is: Crockett was the last one to be put to the bayonet, but he gave the Mason `Sign of Distress' and since Santa Anna was a Mason, Crockett was spared. He had been shot in the arm and had a sever head wound from a tomahawk. Santa Anna had Crockett placed in a hospital and his wounds tended to till he heal up. (Texian Doctors at Goliad were spared and sent to San Antonio to tend to Santa Anna's 600+ wounded soldiers.) Then Gen. Houston spared Santa Anna's life because Houston too was a Mason.
Crockett was given a land grant by POTUS Buchannan (20 years after the Alamo), and lived out his life back in Sweet Home Alabama. (According to the History Channel.)
BTW, 3 times as many Texians died at Goliad but no Major Films have been made about those brave men there who lost their lives in battle and after they surrendered with conditions, or in Gonzales were Texians fought bravely, ('Come and Take It'), or in Refugio were two battles were fought bravely and men died! The Texians were slaughtered after captured or after they surrendered!
How do you make a movie about Goliad? They surrendered and were massacred. War crimes.
@@northernlight4614 It was Gen. Santa Anna who was guilty of WAR CRIMES!
The ALAMO: That mission was NOT a fort and was as big as the 'Daytona Speedway'. It was foolish for 180+ men to try and defend it. Col. Fannin sent two hundred men to the Alamo, (Col. Fannin did not want to go himself for he knew he would be under Lt. Col. Travis’ Command), but when his soldiers saw it surrounded by 1,000's, they knew they could not relive it; so they returned to Goliad. At least they had a fort in Goliad. Both places were taken from Mexican garrisons. Neither place could stand against Santa Anna's Cannons, or his vast numbers of soldiers.
Col. James Fannin, Lt. Col. William Travis and Col. James Bowie, all defied orders to leave their cannons, abandon their positions and hook up with Gen. Houston in Gonzales! Col. Fannin had sent Col. John Forbes south to collect Anglos and Saxons for Santa Anna swore to kill them all. Col. Forbes and his men were attacked and captured and all executed in Refugio. Col. Fannin sent more men to find Col. Forbes they were ambushed and the survivors were executed too. After 5 days Fannin finally left his fort in Goliad, WITH his cannons, and was caught in an open field half way, not to Gen. Houston, but to Victoria, TX. I guess you know the rest of that story. I’ve been to San Antonio, Gonzales, Refugio, and on ‘The Death March’ in Goliad. (Modern Army Troops have tried to defend ‘The Alamo Movie Set’ in Brackettville, TX. and say it is un-defendable!)
Yes, Fannin did go to west point, (how many years?), but I don't think he graduated. The Alamo was as big as the Daytona Speedway and was only a mission. Its cannons are what killed the most Mexicans. 600+ dead & 700+ wounded. Fannin had sent John Forbes south to rescue the Anglos and Saxons for Santa Anna pledged to kill them all. So Col. Fannin delayed orders to abandon his fort and meet up with Gen. Houston for 5 days. He was also ordered to leave the cannons behind for they would slow his retreat down. He disobeyed those orders too, got caught in the open, heading towards Victoria, by Mexican Calvary, fought till nightfall, (a person can't see for a while, after you fired your rifle at night), the next morning the Mexican Artillery showed up. Now Fannin had placed his soldiers in a perfect 5 acre square, (which is what his Military training taught him to do), and entrenched them. But when the Mexican artillery open fire the next morning, the shots went over the Texians heads and landed at the exposed backs of the ones across the 5-acre square. After several volleys of chain and ball, Texians were killed or wounded including Fannin who was hit in the leg. Fannin saw where this was going...and it was either be slaughtered or come to terms of surrender.
Which he did, they were to lay down arms marched back to the Presidio, then groups of them were to be marched to Louisiana, given back their money, personal belongings, weapons and had promised not to return and fight for Gen. Houston. Fannin's Doctors were sent to the Alamo to attend the wounded Mexicans soldiers there.
After several days of sleeping standing up inside the packed Chapel Room, with no food or water, the Texians were march out in 3 groups. 1st group to the N/E towards Louisiana, [they were told they would be given their rifles and personal belongings back when they got to Louisiana and all Fannin’s troops signed an agreement they would never take up arms again against Gen. Santa Anna], 2nd group to the S/E to supposedly to gather wood, and the 3rd group to the S/W to milk cows. When they got a couple miles away from the Presidio…They were lined up and shot and butchered and robbed. (A few men escaped to tell the tale! The young water boys were spared.) Then, Fannin's wounded men were brought out of the Chapel, were leaned against and lined up along the outside Chapel Wall, and Fannin was forced to watch, as his men were shot, and robbed.
When asked for his last request, Col. Fannin said, "Don't shoot me in the face, so my family can attend my funeral and give my money and belongings to them". They said, "OK"!
Then shot him in the face and robbed him! What the Mexicans did at the Alamo, Refugio and Goliad is why the Mexican Soldiers were butchered at `The Battle San Jacinto’ for hours and hours!
"According to history channel"
Idk, maybe the aliens interfered when Santa Ana was about to kill him
@@cv4809 Where they illegals? LOL
@@rickyrichards7596
None of Fannin's men made it anywhere close to the Alamo. The rescue was aborted due to broken down wagons and oxen that wandered off.
Also the Mexican soldiers were not butcheted for hours and hours. The battle was over in 20 minutes.
Gone down fighting or shot against the wall , he died a hero.
Every man Jack to a man that died that day died hero's , a battle won that cost the enemy the war and gave America the state of Texas.
Who cares about of bunch of nutballs fighting to the death to defend SLAVERY? Your heroes were racist White supremacists. The Mexicans had the moral high ground on this one, but that's not what Texas history schools like to teach. The Mexicans were against slavery, but the White Anglos wanted to protect their "property", i.e. African/black slaves that they viewed as sub-humans. Legal or not, the White Anglos were morally repugnant. The whole Alamo story has been huckstered to death for over 180 years now.
because of where mrs. dickinson saw crockett's body, he most likely died fighting. all the versions of the captured men's executions take place outside the alamo at santa ana's hq. had crockett been one of them, his body would not have been in front of the chapel. as for the legend of bowie fighting from his bed and killing 1 or 2 of the soldiers attacking him, this depends entirely on how sick he was that morning. if he was in bad shape, he probably couldn't have fought back. if he was in fair shape, the legend may be true. in either case, we will probably never know for sure.
We do not know we were not there. One thing we do know they did not leave and they could have.
Not all would have been hero's but they did manage to hold out for 13 days against a far superior force.............or is that not true?
In reality, they ran and hid inside the walls of an abandon mission and remained there for thirteen days, in hopes that Sam Houston would arrive w his troops and try to negotiate w Mexico. On the dawn of March 6th, Mexico and its troops decided to wait no further and launched their atttack. Within 30 minutes of their first wave of attack, Mexico had regain possession of the old mission. David Crockett and 7 of his men had surrendered to the Mexican force's and their lives may have been spared, if not for the arrogance actions of William Travis thru out the 13 days of negotiations.
David Crockett surrendering to Mexican forces is easy to understand, for he never intended to arrive in Mexico and fight. He and his traveling companions simply arrived, literally at the wrong time.
Santa Ana took his time. He waited a long time for his armies to arrive at the Alamo.
Yes. Heroes
What happened to Almaron Dickinson?
There are stories that he died in front of the chapel which i kind of believed because i think that travis would have him man a postion close to the chapel but i really don't know who is right or where he died at all i know is he was a hero and died at the Alamo..
I believe he was shot by Mexican troops because he manned a cannon I don’t believe a Mexican bayonet hit to him but just a hunch
What happen to the defenders bodies after the battle. I know they were stacked up and set ablaze. What happen to their remain? Also, Did Houston visited the Alamo after he defeated Santa Ana?
They were buried by Juan seguin in an unmarked location. The location has never been found. many think a chapel contains the remains of the defenders. But the chapel has Mexican uniforms in it. But no attempt of a DNA test has ever been attempted. Relatives of the defenders are alive today and can possibly be able to perform a DNA test. But out of respect for the supposed remains they are untouched.
What's left of their bones, are in a marble coffin just inside the main entrance to San Fernando Cathedral.....
Also, the coffin was opened and on display in the 1930's. Probably on the 100th year anniversary which would be 1936.
Since there seems to be such definite evidence for both endings to Davy Crockett, all I can think is that two men were dressed similarly, and in the confusion one of them was mistaken for Crockett? Or conversely, in the throes of his last resistance, Crockett was seen to go down by Susannah Dickinson, who thought she saw him die, but in reality the exertion and loss of blood had knocked him unconscious and he was, found just coming too when the Mexicans searched the bodies?
Only my guesswork, but it does seem to fit the contradictory evidence!
You people need to read the book that only a few were published of the Diary that was found and authenticated by Texas A&M . THE DIARY belonged to the Lieutenant Aide to Santa Anna by the name of Jose Enrique de la Peña . He gives the account of how those defenders were caught hiding in a back room
Brought outside and were executed by Firing Squad .
Only a few were published, because the daughters of the Republic of Texas stopped Publication . I read it , because my brother has a copy of it, he had a relative that died at the Mission
San Antonio De Valero , otherwise known by the (Alamo) , which means Cottonwood Tree .
This diary is by a man who hated Texans and his story is false.
@@lestermount3287
Thats your opinion Lester boy.!
Sounds more to me that you hate Mexicans ! This diary was authenticated by Texas AM ..they did a lot of research and no where is found that he Hated Texans....He was my.Com. side to. Gen.Santa Anna. Why don't you try reading the book first before you past judgement.
@@lestermount3287 Who cares about of bunch of nutballs fighting to the death to defend SLAVERY? Your heroes were racist White supremacists. The Mexicans had the moral high ground on this one, but that's not what Texas history schools like to teach. The Mexicans were against slavery, but the White Anglos wanted to protect their "property", i.e. African/black slaves that they viewed as sub-humans. Legal or not, the White Anglos were morally repugnant. The whole Alamo story has been huckstered to death for over 180 years now.
@@John-ct9zs you
Are mistaken
Today the Alamo disrespect the immortal memory of Crocket and Bowie. By flying an Irish Tri-Colour in representation of their origins. They were both of Presbyterian stock and ULSTER SCOTS.
They were American
@@Hobby_Workbench The Crocketts originally were of mostly French-Huguenot ancestry, although the family had settled in Ulster in the north of Ireland before migrating to the Americas.
@@robertwilliamson922 still Americans, davy was born in America 🇺🇸
@@Hobby_Workbench Yeah, but his grandparents came from Europe.
By the way…..David Crockett hated being called “Davy”. Probably blame the old Disney movies and Hollywood for that one. Or people from the old days who didn’t know better.
??? the Back ground and the site was the set from the movie John Wayne made in the film.... Not the real Alamo
They Died with the Boots On....
Sorry, Errol Flynn stared in They Died With Their Boots On. As Custer.
@@b42baritone No body has time to take their boots off when they are in a battle....
A new theory suggests that Davy Crockett survived the Alamo and escaped the carnage. The theory says he hid away from the public spotlight under a different name and moved to California during the Gold Rush where he opened a saloon in one of the mining towns (A deed to a saloon is signed D. Crockett) before dying of old age peacefully in 1870.
Ive heard same stories.
I recently saw where a land title was found in Alabama and that title was signed David Crockett. Date of title was in the 1850s. According to some experts, that signature matched up to David's signature from his days in congress. Davy Crockett was a Mason.
So was General Santa Anna.
Its believed thats why David's life may have been spared.
@@TexasTrails Cool
I don't know. There was no quarter. Santa Ana didn't spare lives at Goliad.
@@northernlight4614 Ok
Well he was doing a terrible job of living under an assumed name if he went around signing documents Davy Crockett...
Brave and proud, that's how
All men die but some in death become legends.
You had to go through Crockett to get to Travis . Travis was killed fighting in his bed . Crockett was found dead on the outside wall before that happened .
The Last line of defense from Travis was Crockett's Defense . This tells the picture of the Finale : He Fell Fighting as they all did.
Do you mean through Crockett to get to Bowie?
No Travis was killed on the wall, the first to die. Bowie was killed in his bed in the long barracks. Nobody kn or Ed for sure how Crockett died,
Hm
@@robm9460 I choose to believe that he went down fighting.
Crockett and his men manned the south palisades wall by the church. It was the weakest area of the Alamo since there were no walls there.
Not exactly the last line of defense.
Travis died early in fight. Crockett caught and butchered
The title should be how did the white invaders died?
The strongest evidence indicates that Crockett was killed in action while defending the front door of the church.
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How about the Mexican troops accounts about the mass exit of the Alamo of the defenders that were picked off by the Mexican cavalry.
That’s mentioned in another video by the Alamo. The question is how many left and nobody knows how many. From what I understand even Mexican accounts vary
@@crazydacey they think about 40 left. when the mexican came over thenorth wall. 10-20 defenders on the west wall jumped over and ran to the river. they fired their weapons but were surrounded and killed.
10-20 Defenders in the cattle pin at the south wall, saw the mexican take the 18 pounder cannon and made a run for it. and went around the alamo and ran into a seemly open plan but were run down by mexican calvery. they fired their weapons but they were eventually run down and killed.
most were unable to make a run for it. By the time crockett and his men realized the mexicans were over the wall it was too late to make a run for it. Crockett and his men were surrounded and the only hope was the long barracks and the chapol.
This is a telling sentence 0:58 "According to his slave Joe", so fighting for liberty? But not for all.
Artillery shot bayonet mostly
THESE PATRIOTS STILL LIVE TODAY
I cant say what happen or who was right or wrong but as history has said who is a dictator and who is interlopers the americans were considerd interlopers but santa anna was a dictator the americans were fighting for wrights, freedom and there familes and the constatution of 1824 santa anna tried to take all these things away from these americans they faught they died mexicons killed them but they were better men they faught 20 times there number and lost but we won because of the americans in the Alamo and the battle with Sam Huston
Hero's never die they just fade away
They died for our freedom. What more do we need to know? I have always been fascinated by their decision to remain facing almost certain death.
They died tried to protect slavery, the Mexicans didn’t allow it. Lazy whites wanted it.
Hence Texas joining the Confederacy.
Soooo, if your life is endanger and you run for your life and hide inside your restroom, you are defending that restroom, not hiding in it? OK!
They went into a mission, raised a flag, well armed, wrote the most defiant letter. Fought for thirteen days, last day was 90 min not 30. Tony. There isn’t another way to say this. If you don’t recognize this, you are a WEAK person.
Several men jumped over the West wall to escape the battle only to be killed by Mexican cavalry.
@@northernlight4614 I thought it was the east wall that they jumped over but nevermind.. I don’t know whose right but thanks for telling me 🤗🤗
@@northernlight4614 I dont think they would jump over the west wall because in the picture in the 13th day video on this channel it shows alot of men by the west wall and Calvary would most likely sweep east i think it was the east wall
@@Maybedakidnamedaidan
I thought I read west wall.
I could be wrong though.
I wouldn't put a lot of faith in a You Tube video though.
It was later reported that all the 'sad Texan fanatics' were dead...
People should keep in mind that the defenders of the Alamo were not heroes. They were land grabbers who wanted land to grow cotton and for that they needed slaves. The Mexican government had outlawed slavery, so the real heroes were the Mexican army.
That's one of the popular theories. Since time travel hasn't been invented yet, we'll never know for sure.
As a Texan I will kindly tell you to shut up
You are dead on But this story of freedom is beyond me
@@Nimgimmer1492I wish I could go back in time and examine everything that lead to this battle actually be in the battle but I couldn’t die in the battle or come back to life lol
What the gentleman states in this film clip is hearsay, and pure speculation. This is a good example of an American historian being one-sided, and not using Mexican eyewitness accounts of the deaths of the three men mentioned. Imagine a book on the Battle of Gettysburg, and the southern side is completely ignored! Davy Crockett was found hiding, was captured, and executed moments later. Bowie was found hiding under a mattress, was pulled out, and killed on the spot. The Mexican troops state that he died like a woman, covered in his bed sheets. Travis, when he saw all was lost, pull out his pistol, and shot himself in the head. And this was reported by one of Col. Seguin's men on the day of the battle. Joe, Travis' slave, states that he ran off and hid in one of the rooms, and saw nothing of the battle. His account was written not by him, but by a newspaper man, and is just hearsay and lies. Lastly, close to 125 Alamo defenders jumped the walls, and were lanced down outside the Alamo compound by Gen. Sesma's lancers. Yes, we do know how many of the defenders died that day. BTW, 60 Mexican soldiers were killed that day too...oh, this little detail is always left out!!!!
Where did u come by that information? I'm not dismissing it, just want to research that for myself.
Yes, no problem. For Crockett's death, there's the Col. De la Pena account in the text, WITH SANTA ANNA in TEXAS. Then, there's Col. Urizza's account (an officer on S.A's staff), who name's the prisoner as, "Coket." This is from Dr. D.N. Labadie, who interviewed Urizza at the San Jacinto location. The account appeared in the Texas Almanac, 1859, by a Mr. James M. Day. As for Travis' death, it came on the day of the battle, from two of Col. Seguin's men, Anselmo Vergara, and Andres Barcena, who in turned, told Houston, when he was at Gonzales. As for Bowie, there are many sources, one is from Lt. Col. Sanchez Navarro, who wrote a letter to his brother in a Mexican newspaper, and wrote about it in his published journal, that can be gotten easily. I hope this helps a bit, for you.
@@SKY-jv9ue Thanks very much!
No problem.
LoneStar Leo
Crocket was not found hiding there are several accounts of his “spirited” defense of the Alamo. Travis died fighting on the north wall. Bowie was
not hiding under his mattress, he was sick in bed. Nothing in the many records regarding the character of these men even remotely suggests cowardice of any kind.
Just a bunch of criminals
Laws and morals are 2 different things, yknow what used to be illegal, not dying if you were a jewish in nazi germany
yes and a little later those criminals destroyed the Napoleon of the West and his large army,
Most of those so-called defenders were foreign fighters . Not native to Tejas . In reality they were illegal immigrants from the colonies . It was akin to a bank robber that dies in a shootout while robbing a bank . Was the bank robber defending the bank or killed in the commission of a crime ?
So digame.......what do you owe the Aztecs and Toltecs?
@vidstar1 Earth to vidstar....Tony Lopez and his general staff were ALL white, whereas many of the defenders were part native American from places like Tennessee, Kentucky, Alabama, Ohio and elsewhere back EAST!! Please don't blame the Common Core educational system!!
How were they illegal immigrants when they were ALLOWED to immigrate to Texas until Santa Anna came to power?
@@tinsote7176 EXACTLY. They were awarded land for being Catholic among other things.
try again. They were not illegals the Mexican government brought in foreigners to live in Texas since they could not control the land and the Indians controlled everything. When Santa Anna dismissed the congress and ignored the Constitution many including Latins rebelled
1-Travis committed suicide at the north wall, when he saw all was lost. 2-As the world knows, Crockett surrendered to the Mexican soldiery, only to be executed moments later. 3-Bowie, that slaver and con man, died on his cot, never fighting at all. Over 100 Alamo defenders ran out of the Slamo compound, only to be killed by Gen. Sesma's cavalry. So folks, you now have it! I feel proud to see many peoples celebrate a MEXICAN victory for all time!
Hi, Roger.
@@Nimgimmer1492 Hi, what's buddy?