The story behind Saab's secret 621-mile range electric car: the Emily GT
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- The story behind Saab's secret 621-mile range electric car: the Emily GT
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Completely agree. This was a great brand until GM destroyed it. This car and the workforce deserves to succeed
Yes but it was their fault they refused advice from ford the parent company. Volvo is premium all day their internal combustion broke all time records doing 1 million mileage on clock. The owner of this channel wasn't sure if volvo is premium it is in did just like jaguar they all owned by Ford as premium their brands.
@@silverstone8662 jaguar was sold to Tata in 2008
GM tried to save SAAB, but SAAB didn't follow their directions. They continued to burn development money like they'd been doing before instead of using GM's existing solutions.
GM didn't destroy SAAB they did that themselves. SAAB was already on the path to going under before GM took over. When GM told SAAB to conform to GM supply and design philosophy, what did SAAB do, none of the above and kept on making weird money losing cars.
@@quixomega GM sinked Saab exporting losses from other brand. Plus it took all the technology from it.
What I especially like about this car is that it carries the old Saab way of doing things in today's era. As always, they didn't just build a car as everyone else would do, but they engineered their own way. I would be so proud owning one of them. Investor AB (who owns a number of other Swedish companies) should take over this company, and Saab should lend them their trademark. It's important that it's called Saab and nothing else. The brand value is still there.
@faboulous_y5654 I agree 100% and sign below!
I still have a 2004 93 Convertible and it's the best car I ever owned. I would love to see new Saabs on the road again - the Saab Emily GT would be a dream for me.
As a Swede and former owner of many Saabs I concur! Someone should definitely produce this lovely car! As different as quirky as it seams!
The Electric Viking in an electric Saab - that's the stars aligning!
I’m a huge SAAB FAN!!! I owned 3 in the 80s and early nineties. I’m still in a couple SAAB enthusiast groups online and have attended some rallies.
If it doesn’t have to SAAB badge, the SAAB community won’t care at all about it.
I think you are right. But at the end, I think the badge is the least problem to solve. You can also buy Nokia mobile phones and some other Nokia stuff even though Nokia doesn't make any of them.
This is the same.
@@leiflillandt1488 legally, when a brand goes bankrupt it needs to pay up its debt or release the brand (badge).
We kinda still care but of course we want the Saab badge 😉😎
My second car was a 1969 Saab 96. The collapsible steering wheel prevented serious injury. I was going 40mph through an intersection when a van turned left in front of me. We had no seat belts. The steering wheel was flattened against the dash. All I had were minor bruises on my chest. And a small gash on my forehead, from the rear view mirror, I suspect.
that was genius. But introduced by Citroen in 1955 with the DS. Another icon like the Saab!
I agree with you. I have a 2009 Saab 2.0 93 turbo I bought when GM was getting rid of the line. They took 15k off the sticker price, $22,400. You have to love these cars to own them, and I do. I will never sell mine, I would buy the electric version only if the Saab nameplate was on it. Call me sentimental.
Had a sun green Saab 9-5 wagon and loved its design, ignition position down in the middle. And mostly that very few people had it. So, a very unique car.
I was a bit surprised reading that you had a 95 and loved the design... 😅 Then I read about the ignition and realized you probably had a 9-5.
@@itekani, it’s been over 10-12 years ago that I had the first gen sun green colored wagon model for a year, so forgot that the “9-5” had the dash in it 🙂
Good report. I too would love to see Saab back. I’ve owned 13 over the years and currently drive a 2011 93 XWD. My first was a 1963 two stroke corn popper. Gotta love ‘em!
I am a designer and have always loved Saabs. This car should be called Saab; here in the US, there is great affection for them. I am cheering this on!
Great story. Owned 2 SAAB, but had no idea on this company. Have 2 Volvo’s now.
I still have my 1999 Saab 9-3. 🙂 I've been thinking Saab/NEVS should build a supercar for years, instead of trying to aim for the ruthlessly competitive passenger car market. Maybe Koeniggsegg will have another punt? I actually quite like that Polestar have bought part of it, that's pretty cool.
my first car was a 1982 Saab 900 Turbo and the next was 1986 Saab 9000 Turbo. Loved those cars! I've gone mainstream now with a Tesla Model 3 Performance, love it too! But if SAAB reformed as a car company and put out a compelling EV, they would top my list of considerations.
Yes, very mainstream, Tesla 3 Performance, slightly more mainstream than a SAAB for the time being... 😉😁😁😁
Someone said back in the day Saab was the new Top Dog kinda like what Tesla is known as today
I’m still driving my old 1989 Saab 900i. The best car I’ve owned.
I have an Ioniq 6 which is brilliant and can easily see the Saab influence.
I really hope some buys it because the Swedish engineers made great cars without being told what to do by the accounts.
I still think that SAAB built everything up to a specification not down to a budget and GM didn't make their vehicles like that with them the accountants built GMs products.
@@keithbenson4915
Agree.
Thanks for bringing us this fascinating EV story. As a previous owner of many Saabs, a reincarnation as an EV woukd be amazing. But it 's a $$$ issue in a very competitive market.
A very interesting project. I would also really like to see it into production. As a student I drove around in a Saab 900 and I still own both a lovely Saab 900NG and a 2009 Saab 9-3 2.0 Turbo estate.
Backlash is a term that describes a phenomenon in gear transmission. Its actually when the teeth of the gears don't touch each other and then suddenly when troque is applied, the teeth touch and you feel like a harsh blow.
So my guess is to reduce this sensation they used the hub motor with planetary gears system which creates a smoother torque output. I also guess this is how they manage torque vectoring as well.
Yes. Backlash is the slight space between gear teeth. Its called backlash, because you don't get any play after initial engagement, except when there is a torque reversal. Then the backlash is noticed. It leads to numerous issues in drivetrains for both cars and industrial machinery. There are various methods of managing it. Skewed gear teeth can reduce it, as well as anti-backlash gearsets, etc. But all strategies come with their own issues.
Is there a planetary gear set inside?
Koenigsegg was interested in taking over SAAB at one point. I think that can happen when Koenigsegg is looking to make greater numbers of cars and needs scale, they need another high volume scale brand to leverage costs.
That would require extraordinary funding for building a new factory. The old SAAB factory has been sold and is currently being rented by Polestar!
1987 900S (and a couple subsequent) - ah, that was the era! Would love to see that logo back on a great new EV! Good report - thanks!
With handbrake on the front tires. Big no, no for me.
@@gullfaks who says they will do dangerous things nowadays? Completely different owner, different design staff...
@@gullfaks I owned a 1985 SAAB TURBO 2dr. Anyone I drove in that car loved it. I have owned all sorts of cars but nothing was as fun as driving my SAAB. The engine sound was like nothing on the road and the handling was superb.
900S -87? Where are you, and what was the engine in that model? In Sweden 900S was introduced in 1990 and that was the low pressure 16 valve turbo without intercooler and APC.
I LOVED my old 2005 Saab 95 Vector. 2.2 TDi 5 spd auto. Never liked them until I got one.
The 1978-1994 900 model was the iconic SAAB. Key on the floor, wrap around windshield, front wheel drive, crumple zones, turbo, fun to drive, durable.
Alongside the Volvo 240, one of the best cars ever made in my opinion!
I used to drive a Saab 9000. The car was brilliant in snow. I always thought that Saab would be the perfect brand and design aesthetic for EVs. Those cars had nice touches from the aviation industry since Saab always made excellent aircraft. If I were the Saab Defense conglomerate, I would re-acquire the rights to make cars using the Saab name and this new EV prototype as well.
Saab 9-3 owner here! Would love to see a spiritual successor!
Correction: NEVS Emily GT was developed in just 10 months. Owners Evergrande asked for a car using hub motors. Considering the total development time for a production line car is ~5 years Emily GT is incredible!
Also, GM basically killed SAAB by not allowing the buyers to continue producing the new line of 9-3s and 9-5s, which had then been developed for ~5 years. Have one of the very few 9-5s that were produced before the selloff, great car!
No Westerner in their right mind should buy anything associated with Evergrande.
The one EV I’d actually like to own! Don’t need the range. Just the looks!!
na..need the range too..
theres another video showing for 3 range types
I’m sold. I’ve had 5 Saab 95 Aeros in the past. I still have my 2007 aero but would love to see the new car. Bring it on.🤗🤗
Go for it !!! From Trollhättan SWEDEN
Hi from Japan ! I visited the Saab museum in Trollhattan in the 90s. I was surprised to get on a 9-5 taxi to drive me there. I used to drive a 9000 cs Talladega and a 9-3 sedan. Still dreaming of Saab! A Saab EV ? I can’t really imagine driving an EV. I want to hear the motor when driving.
@@richardstrauss7652 Hi ! I am living 3km from the SAAB (NEWS) factory. I am drivning To EV cars.
One Tesla X for long distansen, and one Nissan Life in the town and ca 200 km. I have had EV cars in 8 yrats an nerver regrets it !!!
Would be amazing to see these on the road 😊 Coming out of Trollhättan Sweden 🎉
Great looking car and surely reminds of the old Saabs. I hope this would come to production.
It's got an impressive overall range though it'd be nice to see it they could improve on how economical that battery is
It's pushing around 3.5 kWh per mile. A few other cars are pushing at least 4.5 kWh / mile. To put that into context, with a 175 kWh battery that'd be a range of 787.5 miles instead of 620 miles which is a hell of a lot further
Still, no company has managed this big a range at a reasonable cost. Aptera have managed it but I'd hardly call them reasonably priced.
Overall amazing bit of news
Absolutely. A Chinese EV company that has no international brand recognition should buy it with the employees intact and, with care, create great cars under the Saab brand. Maybe they can even bring back some classic Saab styling cues, to give them a personality.
Love Saab,
and it would be wonderful to see Saab's on the road again,
hopefully they will succeed ❤
Backlash is clearance between mating gears. Under higher torque, it generally causes no problem. Under low torque or freewheeling, the two gears can 'bounce' back and forth, causing vibration, noise and wear.
I would love to see SAAB back to manufacturing
I still have a 2001 Saab 9-3 with MapTun stage 2. I’m not saying it has the instant torque of an electric, but it does have a lot of torque.
With backlash what is meant is simplified: play in the gear. So if the drive moves from deccel to accel there is a tiny short time when it doesnt have full contact to the wheels. Legacy cars have lots of backlash, modern electric cars have little, hub motors are gear less and have no backlash at all.
Wow that's a good of range as the Prius and Prius prime.
Great job SaaB
Gear backlash: Gear backlash is the play between teeth measured at the pitch circle. (it can cause clicking or a slight hesitation in gear engagement when changing direction). A direct wheel motor with no gearing would consequently have no backlash (since no gears),
Plus you also get backlash with slack in drive chains. Basically it's the amount you can move one end of the drive train without the other end moving.
I agree however I wonder if 0 backlash is worth the trade, since they require slip rings to deliver power. Rings and brushes will need to be serviceable. I believe direct wheel is also known as 'traction' motors in the train and subway business.
@@JackDaniels-pn6hu huh, brushless motors are pretty much standard these days. I should clarify, standard for permanent magnet motors
@@mattgraham4340 of course if you have an alternating field you can use a squirrel cage induction motor without a magnet. Problem then is field control and potential heat dissipation.
Backlash is usually not a problem that keeps designers awake at nights...nice to eliminate if you can. Except for some applications like printer drives where you HAVE to minimise it.
Hi Sam,
Thank you.
I guess the story of so many original car companies that know longer exist, apart from a badge.
What is certain Saab thought process of thinking about other ways to do things, now that's worth buying the company, if those same engineers are part of the deal, then hope is available.
Great posts
I don't think the rotating mass is greater on hub motors. The centre of the hub stays still - only the outer rim with the tire attached actually moves. With few components moving there's less friction, so I believe the efficiency should be better. The stability will be better as well, as the weight is even lower. Turning moment will be higher than having the weight closer to the center of the vehicle, though this might not even be realized by the car/driver because that weight is being directly moved by the fact that it's directly coupled to ground. The unsprung weight and the durability are the main issues. I'd love an off-roading vehicle with massive hub motors for full, independent control over each wheel's torque, and the lower centre of gravity.
It would require a very active suspension to keep the cabin from bouncing up and down in uneven pavement.
@@rogerbritus9378 I'm thinking specifically for trails and terrain where youre going slow enough that the wheels are always kept down by gravity and not thrown up at the vehicle, so the unsprung weight doesn't really matter, but precise control over torque in every wheel and extra stability would be very beneficial.
Wouldn’t steering just using the hub motors scrub off the tyres pretty quickly?
I've owned many cars, but a Saab wasn't one of them. Would love the opportunity in the future though.
Saab "Born From Jets"
... If they can keep that old aviation theme going - somehow, with a hub motor design it would make a great high-end 4-wheeled model for Aptera (but they have their own challenges right now). IF it could happen, could we see a Saab Emily GT (by Aptera) ... ?
I was so sad when SAAB died. Even though they made ICE cars they were highly innovative and made their own bandwagon. They didn't follow anyone. And GM effectively killed SAAB.
Btw, I owned two 900s in the 1980s. A 900 Injection and 900 Turbo 16. They were magnificent quirky vehicles with oodles of character. I would love to see a BEV SAAB.
How can you say that a company that bought the patents for the DKW in 1946 is innovative? Never innovative but always good.
@@tedmoss They were very innovative.
Well thats all they ever made they never made evs the company died before evs made it to main stream
@@jake78441 very innovative.the company died
"Backlash" is sometimes called "slop" - the free play, in this case, between the rotation of the engine and the delayed rotation of the wheel.
In an ICE car, drive backlash is caused by the transmission gears, the drive shaft, the universal joints, and the differential's gears. In an EV,
the drive backlash is in the drive shaft universal joints. In an EV with hub motors, the only free play is in worn bearing surfaces. In normal
driving, backlash is experienced in stop-n-go traffic as a jerk as the free play is taken up before acceleration or deceleration occurs. In an
EV with regen, the jerk occurs when one presses and lets up on the accelerator pedal.
Backlash is the overall free play in the driveline. Can be gears or driveshaft joints, transfer case chain and gears etc.
In wheel motors used in Emily have been through whole life durability/real life testing...it's already been proven...that's why SAAB/NEVS went for this mature machine!
It is gorgeous looking car! I would change my Tesla to this beauty immediately! I do stil own a couple of old SAABs. My dream would come true with an elektric SAAB!
Maybe NEVS needs to look towards crowd funding. It could possibly get enough buyers to support it's production. SAAB were know for being expensive to create but it doesn't mean that they couldn't produce income. If a plan was created and NEVS could show the ability to profitable I would invest in the brand. I still have my Saab 93 and would love to see them on the road in the future.
That my friend sounds like a great idea there would be so much support for Saab worldwide i'm in !!!
I have an 09 Saab 9-3 2.0t! If this ever becomes available in the states, I’m doing my best to get one!
The diesel electric haul trucks I drive use hub drives on the rear wheels. They use a mild form of toque vectoring and low speeds which is very useful.
Those trucks can turn tighter then a conventional diesel driveline truck half their size.
I would love for Saab to have a comeback, but I’m afraid a lot has been lost by now. I really considered the latest iteration of the saab 95, but it went bankrupt so now I drive a Passat.
I have just bought a moped with a hub motor. It's brilliant to drive. And cheap to run
The Saab brand still has a decent reputation. Would be a good buy for a Chinese company wanting to enter the USA or EU market. .
Engineer here - backlash comes about from the gap between meshing parts such as gear teeth. You may feel it if you 'rock' a car forward and backwards when stationary whilst in gear. Hub motors wouldn't have the gears so wouldn't have the backlash. Is technically true but doubt you would notice it at all when driving.
Almost on par with the Chinese NIO & Zeekr 001. Glad to see Saab back
Backlash or more correctly Hysteresis is more commonly described as "play". There needs to be very very small gaps between components to allow for temperature changes and assembly. These small clearances add up to one not so small clearance overall. Thus the motor may turn 2⁰ or 3⁰ before the wheels start to turn.
I dumped cash into my Saab 9-5 like it was volcano - but it paid back with love. He died after third engine failure.
I really consider EV conversion of one of their suv :)))
Geely could also make great use of the SAAB brand, using one of its platforms and bring differentiated products from what they already have, as a subscription only brand for example, or a shared and automated platform, or other business model. But I see no way out for NEVS.
Beijing Auto did produce a version of Saab 95 back in the days, however they were not able to acquire the Saab name because of GM rather let it die, and it did. Same story went for Rover with Ford. Both should have been alive like Volvo and MG.
I'm very conflicted about this!. On the one hand, I would truly love to see Saab return, but on the other hand, I don't want them to return as a "me too" unnecessarily powerful EV with a massive battery. We've already got far too many of them as it is.
I'd like to see Saab return with something truly innovative, and taking the design in a direction where everybody should be going. Something which combines the thinking behind Citroen's Oli, that is to say an absolute priority on making the car as light and sustainable as possibe. But combined with an ultra aerodynamic shape which takes inspiration from Saab's original teardrop shaped cars. These cars would not be out to rewrite the rules on range per se, but on maximising how far it was possible to go on each kWh of power. Ultimate performance would not be a factor beyond being "sufficient", but the aerodynamics would mean very efficient cruising at higher speeds and the light weight would mean the same in the city.
I had SAAB for 25 + years. The best ever in many aspect, but now I had to find alternative. Audi. If Saab will be back. So will I
I want it! But could it be because I'm Swedish or a Saab lover! It's probably both, and then it's the case that Saab's engineers are a bit smarter, I and many others believe, "because they dare to look outside the box!"
Electric forklifts have individual motors for each wheel and I thought EVs should do the same it just makes allot of sense
Pairing with a company like BYD or Nio is a great time & with location of NEVS factory. In then being able to offer hybrids in partnership or merger
A big factor in using hub motors was probably that NEVS owner bought the hub motor company.
I read that NEVS developed 13 different prototype vehicles the last ten years, this is one of them.
The motors are built by Protean, still independent.
Unfortunately there will never be another SAAB - in the name, as Scania/Saab did not allow anyone to use the name anymore. But NEVS has continued development with former engineers and technologies.
Things can always change in the future. They have to convince the owner of the brand name first off course.
SAAB, as you probably know, made - possibly still do, I'm not sure, jet fighter aircraft. That's probably where the emphasis of precision and quality comes from.
Thanks for showing it. Christian v. Koenigsegg tested the car and seems to love the in-wheel drive train. So anybody there who wants to....
does it have a battery twice the size of the hummers battery?
In-hub motors increase not only the rotational inertia of the wheel to make the car have slower response to power and braking,
but it also increases the UN-SPRUNG MASS of the wheel, making it harder for the shock absorbers to control the bounce of
the wheel when it hits road bumps. The result is that the tire is not pressed onto the pavement uniformly as it bounces up and
down, and the traction of the tire in forward/backward and side-to-side directions changes, sometimes enough to lose directional
control. Typically, it lengthens braking or acceleration distances, or reduces cornering control, on ripply roads. The reason behind
aluminum/magnesium alloy wheels is the reduction of un-sprung mass.
The storage must be great! With motors in the wheels the boot and froot should be spacious?
I think by backlash, they mean driveline lash or slack. So no halfshafts nor driveshafts to create slack in the motor to wheel torque transfer.
I had a thing for the Saab 900 when I was a teen.
As a farmer who had a SAAB 99 … no better car ever.
I too would love to see this offered to the public: reminds me of a LucidAir, looks awesome, and I wonder if this could be toned down into a luxury wagon, ie a Volvo. I have to think the current CEO is pushing all the buttons she can find - Geely, Koenigsegg, Magna, maybe even Porsche. One thing that strikes me is that the reviewer on another channel said it was nicer sitting in the back seat than a Taycan.
There is no point in torque vectoring with wheels aligned forward, because they have to scrub the tyres excessively, particularly on corner blocks around town. Torque vectoring is only good for miniscule inputs to slightly reduce cornering forces at the limits. In any case, motors don't need to be in-hub to do it, and there are so many strong reasons to keep them out of the wheels.
Also, extra range by merely increasing battery size is useless, because it takes much longer to charge. Only increased energy density with quicker charge times is worth having.
Every other car manufacturer in the world: "unsprung weight improves ride and handling.. SAAB: "who wants good ride and handling??"
The 93, 96, 99, 900, are among the most fantastic and best cars in whole history. It’s was a shame what the vampires at GM did with the brand. I really would like to see the Emily at the streets but proudly wearing the Saab badge.
Backlash is the tolerance between gears in the drivetrain that you then do not have with hub motors.
It should get Amprius batteries and halve the weight at the max range. Then enter the market! Time for Berkshire to switch horses from BYD to NEVS.
NEVS might have the factory, but they dont have the name, and they dont have the upper management 'SAAB-Think'. That is to design a thing properly. Thats why architects and graphic designers loved em, they did design their own way, not the way other car manufacturers were doing it.
Take SAAB's climate system. Vacuum driven by the engine, it could give a stream of fresh cold air to your face whilst warming your toes. It pioneered the 'third break light', gave us opening doors in the event of a front end impact, ergonomic design principals, out of the box thinking.
And maaaan, that factory turbo was great!
You could lie flat with the back seat down (zero bumps) and a 6" person could stretch out. All controls accessible wile keeping both hands on the steering wheel.
a bullet proof engine. worth a million k'm's.
Manufacturing could happen at a local level again.... but big business has gone global and that is what controls the market now. For now.
The Lima Agreement (1973-75) was an international trade agreement that shifted manufacturing to the developing world. Here in Australia we lost our entire manufacturing industry, and we had it in spades.
Long live the small manufacturers, if only in our hearts!
Is a bus driver in Australia 10x better than the ones in India ( for example)? Not "lost" just not wanted for the price.
If the weight is centered ie in the hubs the the centrifugal issues are not that noticeable, what is the issue is that the unsprung weight makes the suspension and handling not good. And because there is no drive shafts/axles the kick back is non existent ie can affect the suspension as u got direct drive instead
In wheel motors are brilliant but expensive and hard to engineer well. Elaphe, Protean and YASA make these motor/wheel combinations. YASA has been bought by Mercedes. Lordstown and Aptera use in wheel motors. Expect to see something from Protean and Mercedes soon.
There are claims that GMG battery technology had energy density of 290-310 Wh/Kg +++ as of 2021 and 3 minutes fast charging.
Backlash: Any set of gears will have some sort of "tolerance." There will be at least a tiny gap between the gear teeth. If not at first, then when they wear in. When you first put pressure on the front of the teeth (acceleration) and then switch to putting pressure on the rear of the teeth (deceleration) that little gap can be felt as "backlash." Think of it as "slack" in the drivetrain. Big sloppy trucks with all sorts of differentials and transfer cases end up having quite a bit of this backlash. Doesn't matter when you're slogging through mud. But not so great when driving a high-performance sedan. Hub motors would eliminate every one of these sources of backlash and should feel silky smooth in transition from positive to negative pressure.
Backlash is the space in between the gear teeth/drive train, with hub motors no gears are required as it is direct drive. Modern EV's have a motor connected to a gear reduction module, like tesla, lucid, kia, hyundai, mach-e, etc. With these systems you have to have some backlash or the gears will be too tight and wear out/generate more heat = inefficiency.
The fans of Saab love it because it always went overboard on things, tech had to be Saab quality or they would quite literally make their own regardless of cost, look what happened when GM owned them, the is the Vectra all you’ve got to do is rebadge it as the new Saab, they made an entire new sat nav system because the GM one wasn’t up to Saab customer expectations, they changed the interior, exterior wheelbase and some body parts till it looked nothing like the old vectra it was meant to be 😂 the cars drove beautifully and quality was excellent but they must have been losing a fortune on every sale.
@@scottglossop yeah not the best business model 😂 but they stuck to their standards and I have to admire them for that.
Aptera has Hub motors. As did the Xbus, but i think the Xbus is switching back to a standard electric motor.
Saab didn't change name to NEVS . The remains of SAAB actives were bought by NEVS. In the meantime it looks like Emily has been bought by a conglomerate in Sweden that says it will produce Emily.
The reason the NEVS badge was used, was because when the company went into bankruptcy following the ownership by Spyker, the Saab group, which is still very much alive and active building planes and other high tech products, refused to licence the Saab name to the new owners. I think that it is extremely unlikely that we will see the Saab name on cars again, regardless of what happens to the company in Trollhätten. By the way I have owned 7 Saabs over the years, my first being a 1980 Saab 99 Turbo 2 door and my last was a 2005 Saab 9-5 Aero Hirsch SportCombi.
SAAB plant in Trollhättan is not building any cars at this moment, from what I know...so this is a model made in China? Nope, is a prototype made in Trollhättan under Project Manager Peter Dahl lead - a Swedish man. But NEVS is not SAAB, they do not have the right to use the SAAB name (former mother company which is still making military planes at the top world level).
That plant is going to re open by volvo/polestar!
@@jake78441 Oh, this is very good news... I always said that Chinese companies need to go outside China with the production if they really want to take the lead.
@@costiqueR Gonna reopen as some sorta research and development facility!
I don't think NEVS are allowed to use the brand name SAAB nowadays.
But if someone put enough cash on the table, maybe SAAB change their minds.
If you get something outside the mainstream, like a Tesla, I think there will be customers, and the price mustn't always be that low.
We already know for a while that long range EVs are feasible. This is just an example. Tesla’s semi with max load has a range of 500 miles. Ultimately every car maker has a finite supply of batteries and needs to decide how to deploy them. If you have 240kw, would you rather produce 2 cars with 120kw (500+ miles), 3 cars at 80kw, or 4cars at 60kw. Overall car efficiency also plays a role. This results in different volumes, revenues and profitability. On the other hand, consumers will need to decide whether they are willing to shell out more dollars for high mile range. In due course, with battery supply growing and battery costs dropping, average miles offered will go up. It’s clear that technology is already there. Lower costs will certainly follow.
Question of the day, its all right giving this mileage range, now lets have the truth behind these vehicles, we need the range at highway speeds, in various weather conditions, these spec’s need to be known, in order to make the decisions to buy.
Sounds like a real Saab Story
Königsegg should buy it 👍🏻
This is a silly idea that has gone out of use 100 years ago, to much mass and shock force to easily overcome. Gyroscopic effect is much greater, might make the car more stable as long as it isn't turning a corner, otherwise you might tend to go straight instead of turning. Why do you think Tesla developed the motors they use? Much less un-sprung weight, much more electrical efficiency, much less parts flying off from shock.
How about Ineos as a potential buyer?
backlash probably means friction due to 2 wheels on either side not wokring toghther smoothly around a turn, because they are being pushed at same speed vs torque levels, but one naturally would spin more than the other. so that means more tire longveity., and tire wear microplastic emissions are supposed to be worse than some of the popular and probably the false idea of emissions problems . the usprung weight being more, might be no less effceitn than one motor and cmenical losses from connecting motor to wheels,buti doubt it. koniegsegg gemera motor is supposed to be pretty small, so it maybe not too bad
I was driving down 494 in Minnetonka and a car wizzed past me. I am quite sure it said SAAB on the back. I tired to take some photos but they are grainy.