Happy New Year and thanks for watching, any gear mentioned in the video is linked up below, cheers! ➡️ Gear Up: Sawyer Mini: amzn.to/35lYaix Katadyn Befree: amzn.to/2QMYf9Z Potable Aqua: amzn.to/37xjiE2 Pathfinder Canteen: amzn.to/2uecAEy
Good stuff. I purchased two Survival Straws from Goodwill. They were $5.99, I wish they had a Sawyer, but I'm happy that I have something and found them before somebody else did.
Too pricey for me...was talking to my Dad and he dug out their original filter from 20 years ago, perfect condition just like I remember as a kid. So I have a new filter lol
Get the KATADYNE do it and don't think about it again. I've had one since 1969, replaced one filter and 2 of the rubber sleeves over the years. I own 3 now: 1for home, 1 in the inch bag and just because. Used them on the trail, while traveling here and abroad and during boil orders at home. I've complete confidence in them.
That’s the best recommendation I’ve seen...built like a tank. My parents had one when I was a kid, remember many great adventures with that filter. They still have it lol and it works like a champ
" relying on one source of purification is dumb. Don't be dumb. " Wise words. I use an MSR gravity fed bag. Scoop up the water and let it hang from a branch, filtering down into my Dromedary bag while I get on with other camp chores or put my feet up and take 5. To purify I like the Micropur tablets, 100 of them are very light and take up next to no space. Not the best technology but it works, really interested in some of the newer things out there though, especially anything that can do chemicals and heavy metals. As a back up I put cloth over my titanium water bottle as pre-filter and boil it. No moving parts, very reliable. Great video, some really good tips and tricks there. Enjoyed seeing the survival tin in action too, if it was up to me it would be in every video haha.
Great setup for getting clean water. Gravity fed bags are outstanding, let nature do the work for you. What brand titanum water bottle do you have? I'll have to feature the tin more often, got a perfect setup for the tin + cordage in that Mosin Nagant ammo pouches
@@TheSurvivalOutpost It does tie you down to one spot while the water filters unlike the way you can scoop and go with the BeFree type of deal, but when I want to resupply water its usually at least 2-4 times more than could fit in that bottle, some times 10 times as much. So this seems the best option so far, but like I said something that does chemical/heavy metals would be real nice if I can add it into the mix. The titanium bottle is a Vargo Parabottle. Only pretty newly replaced my stainless steel bottle, not sure if I recommend it yet or not to be honest, needs a bit more time testing. One thing I did was get rid of the big chunky top that weighed a heap and I am trying it with an MSR top on it. Seems to like that better than the Nalgene lid I tried first which leaked. Yeah I was admiring that, very sweet looking setup you have there!
Sawyer is always my first choice... I have several Sawyer mini's. Where I am at most of the water I get comes from springs that is 100% safe to drink without purifying. Now that being said I have been drinking fresh spring water my whole 30 years of life... Never gotten sick from any of it lol. I'm also the guy who only brings a single bottle of water "just in case". I know my mountains and I know there's water. When all else fails, just boil the water and call it good haha.
That's all you need really...$20 gets you right. Many people complain the Pocket is too heavy...and of course too $. Katadyn Hiker Pro is a better option IMO
I chose the Sawyer Mini for my pack. I have the entire kit in a hard plastic case, I also have a bottle of purifying tabs. I use a bandana as a pre-filter. Not a big fan of the bag either. I like the compactness of the kit, and the reverse flow syringe to flush out the filter. The syringe can be used for other things such as flushing out a wound or eye, if some debris gets into either. One note on the Sawyer Mini. Although it is supposed to screw on to standard bottles such as readily available water bottles. It does not work with some of the cheaper water bottle brands. The bottle openings are either smaller than the Sawyer Mini connection or the threads are different and the system leaks around that. As for those that worry about different plastics in water bottles. If I am in a situation where my life depends on filtering water. The small amount of possible toxins coming from a plastic bottle that might affect me 20 years from now is the least of my worries.
I have seen leaking issues when I used a generic brand water bottle but for some reason no leaks when I used an actual brand like Coke. Maybe the threads are more defined? And yeah why care about plastic toxin from a bottle, least of anyone concerns...
Love the opening. I'm doing a video on why BOB is a failed concept (yes you should have one but why) so I might pinch a bit of the opening here if that is cool. You hit it hard- personal, situational, and there are too many bleeding bag names which confuses new preppers I use the LifeStraw Mission12. Cheap, light weight, and my water is abundant and clean. Lifestraw is a Sucker lol and Sawyer system just was too annoying. I think tablets for travel in an shtf is the best move but pay extra for all three issues! As you know of course
Sounds interesting, 99% usage for a 72hr bag is going to be natural disaster, not civil unrest, no zombie invasion etc. No need to drag along body armor and full battle rattle lol. Is the Mission12 the Gravity bag setup? I see that on Amazon. I can't speak to anything but the original Lifestraw which was revolutionary for its time but limited in use.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost Yes the gravity one. They have a 5 litre one as well but the bag is hard. Here is the field test vid. There is an older one where I used beaver pond water for Kitty. It works well and contamination is not easy studio.ua-cam.com/users/video1qaWHlRDrzY/edit
Those mini sawyer bags suck and they also fail at times. I put a smart water bottle for my mini sawyer and I also have my canteen cup. That setup is now in my b.o.b. kit and I put my Grayl geopress in my recce ruck for edc/outdoors. Great to see u back and looking forward to future videos this year on the channel. 👍🍻
I used to have a Katadyn until it was stolen. Then I bought a Sawyer, but now I use a Grayl, with the Sawyer as backup and tablets as my emergency sterilizer if I can't use fire to boil the water. The Grayl is outstanding; it doesn't require an extra container, is easy to fill from standing or running water (although I do strain through a cloth), cleans the water with one push, and it doesn't require the degree of maintenance of either the Katadyn or the Sawyer. It also takes care of viruses and many chemicals. The biggest drawback is the relatively short life of the filter (I bought an extra, and the straining helps it last longer).
I too have all those filters, sorry to hear about the Katadyn. I also have a Grayl but my only complaint is the short filter life and the fact that it is all self contained in the bottle. Would be great if they had a portable option small and compact like Sawyer
@@TheSurvivalOutpost As I noted, that's why I carry the Sawyer as a backup, but the Grayl is superior because it is 'all-in-one (actually two)', it's perfect if you have to move fast and put distance between you and adversaries because it takes only a few seconds rather than minutes to grab water. clean it and carry it away. Clip it (new version) on your belt or pack and move out.
Great presentation! Very clear explanation on how get it done right. I as well have the sawer for most water sources and pair mine with smartbottleinc container system. When the time comes and i question the sawyer or my water source i use my MSR Guardian pump. Urban environments ! The Silcox key to generate water flow then filter .
Great video, Gyrene. I EDC a HydroBlu Sidekick on body carry. I also have a Sawyer that I modded to use in a CamelBak Eddy. My main filter is a Survivor Water Filter which can be used just like the Sawyer but has a carbon filter for heavy metals and chemicals. I use Micro Pur tabs also for water decontamination. Marine+Boonie cover=Devil Dog awesomeness. Semper Fi!
In the winter here all filters pretty much fail. I have actually gravitated to potassium permanganate as my primary chemical purifier. I still use filters but with the understanding of the weaknesses they have.
Dang...you left the beautiful smokies..for florida ?? Question : Which plastic bottles are the best for water filters...I heard that SMARTWATER bottles are the best for Thru Hikers....True or false?? Always enjoy your video productions. Cheers
Yeah I do miss the Smokies! Hope to return this year. I have always heard good stuff about the SmartWater bottles, but the Survivor brand of Water filter bottle is also quite popular.
Berkley make some of the best water filters. I always buy those except for the sawyer mini I have in my camping bag. I use a smart water bottle to flush my filters and carry my water in. I also carry a collapsible bpa free water bottle that has the same lid. They can be found at Wal-Mart are made by outdoor products and hold a ltr of fluid. They cost approximately $3.50 and seems to be a functional option opposed to the smart water bottles or the small roll bag that comes with the sawyer mini. I am interested in getting a befree filter for redundancy but am in no rush seeing that what I have functions so well.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost I have some leftiver from my time in the service..not sure what brand. The other ones I have I bought at walmart I would have to check the brand. Really I just keep bleach around. It has multiple uses and can also be used to purify water. You just gotta drink all the dead stuff but I don't mind. Thats is what boiling is for lol
At this point, I don't even consider pump filters to be a good option for me. I get more function and capacity from my Sawyer Mini and bladder and easier to fill
I use a collapsible silicone cup to scoop water to pour into my 'dirty water' bag, and then the Sawyer. The Sawyer can also be set up as a gravity system, w/ some extra hardware
I hope in the future someday we can all enjoy a reverse osmosis filter that is small and light and filters a hundred thousand gallons before it expires. Then, I can filter my own pee.. and it would be clean drinking water.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost Stillsuits would be a game changer. Many times I have wished for one of these while hauling 8-10 liters of water in my pack through desert like central Australia lol
Happy New Year and thanks for watching, any gear mentioned in the video is linked up below, cheers!
➡️ Gear Up:
Sawyer Mini: amzn.to/35lYaix
Katadyn Befree: amzn.to/2QMYf9Z
Potable Aqua: amzn.to/37xjiE2
Pathfinder Canteen: amzn.to/2uecAEy
I use a pantyhose sock,for a prefilter on my pump filter. Cheap and works great. Have a great day.
That’s a great choice
Good stuff. I purchased two Survival Straws from Goodwill. They were $5.99, I wish they had a Sawyer, but I'm happy that I have something and found them before somebody else did.
Excellent deal!
200 papers is a lot for a portable filter. If you get one, definitely review it! Thanks for sharing, keep up the good work!
Too pricey for me...was talking to my Dad and he dug out their original filter from 20 years ago, perfect condition just like I remember as a kid. So I have a new filter lol
@@TheSurvivalOutpost Good deal.
@The Survival Outpost Cool, can you do a review of it?
@@jwatterson69 Thats the plan
The most important thing to learn is the difference between filtration and purification.
Yes there is a big difference. When in doubt, purify it and then run it through a filter
Get the KATADYNE do it and don't think about it again. I've had one since 1969, replaced one filter and 2 of the rubber sleeves over the years. I own 3 now: 1for home, 1 in the inch bag and just because. Used them on the trail, while traveling here and abroad and during boil orders at home. I've complete confidence in them.
That’s the best recommendation I’ve seen...built like a tank. My parents had one when I was a kid, remember many great adventures with that filter. They still have it lol and it works like a champ
Thank you.
Well done, I use all these exact items. Love pathfinder even tho Dave is a tad surly.
Yeah its kinda disappointing that some of the items from Self Reliance Outfitters is made overseas. IIRC the pathfinder set is from China...
@@TheSurvivalOutpost i just got a set in, ill check and report back. Ill be pissed if that the case, wasnt a few years back.
@@jailbreakoverlander Let me know, hoping I'm wrong
@@TheSurvivalOutpost HEY i WOULD LIKE TO INVITE YOU ON A LIVE SHOW TO TALKING ABOUT PREPPING 101 BASICALLY. LET ME KNOW RJCJR10@YAHOO.COM
@@jailbreakoverlander email sent
" relying on one source of purification is dumb. Don't be dumb. "
Wise words.
I use an MSR gravity fed bag. Scoop up the water and let it hang from a branch, filtering down into my Dromedary bag while I get on with other camp chores or put my feet up and take 5.
To purify I like the Micropur tablets, 100 of them are very light and take up next to no space.
Not the best technology but it works, really interested in some of the newer things out there though, especially anything that can do chemicals and heavy metals.
As a back up I put cloth over my titanium water bottle as pre-filter and boil it. No moving parts, very reliable.
Great video, some really good tips and tricks there. Enjoyed seeing the survival tin in action too, if it was up to me it would be in every video haha.
Great setup for getting clean water. Gravity fed bags are outstanding, let nature do the work for you. What brand titanum water bottle do you have? I'll have to feature the tin more often, got a perfect setup for the tin + cordage in that Mosin Nagant ammo pouches
@@TheSurvivalOutpost It does tie you down to one spot while the water filters unlike the way you can scoop and go with the BeFree type of deal, but when I want to resupply water its usually at least 2-4 times more than could fit in that bottle, some times 10 times as much. So this seems the best option so far, but like I said something that does chemical/heavy metals would be real nice if I can add it into the mix.
The titanium bottle is a Vargo Parabottle. Only pretty newly replaced my stainless steel bottle, not sure if I recommend it yet or not to be honest, needs a bit more time testing. One thing I did was get rid of the big chunky top that weighed a heap and I am trying it with an MSR top on it. Seems to like that better than the Nalgene lid I tried first which leaked.
Yeah I was admiring that, very sweet looking setup you have there!
Great video I like the Sawyer . Myself and i carry a 1 liter soda bottle .and tabs in my kit and always have my SS bottle
Spot on, simple but effective solution
Sawyer is always my first choice... I have several Sawyer mini's. Where I am at most of the water I get comes from springs that is 100% safe to drink without purifying. Now that being said I have been drinking fresh spring water my whole 30 years of life... Never gotten sick from any of it lol. I'm also the guy who only brings a single bottle of water "just in case". I know my mountains and I know there's water. When all else fails, just boil the water and call it good haha.
I do love the Sawyer. I have also have a few, one in my 72hr bag, one in my vehicle evac gear, etc. But yeah when in doubt boil it!
Can't really beat the katadyn pocket but it's expensive so. sawyer mini is essential. With an old pop bottle to fill.
That's all you need really...$20 gets you right. Many people complain the Pocket is too heavy...and of course too $. Katadyn Hiker Pro is a better option IMO
The Pocket is my favorite also.
I chose the Sawyer Mini for my pack. I have the entire kit in a hard plastic case,
I also have a bottle of purifying tabs. I use a bandana as a pre-filter.
Not a big fan of the bag either.
I like the compactness of the kit, and the reverse flow syringe to flush out the filter. The syringe can be used for other things such as flushing out a wound or eye, if some debris gets into either.
One note on the Sawyer Mini. Although it is supposed to screw on to standard bottles such as readily available water bottles. It does not work with some of the cheaper water bottle brands. The bottle openings are either smaller than the Sawyer Mini connection or the threads are different and the system leaks around that.
As for those that worry about different plastics in water bottles. If I am in a situation where my life depends on filtering water. The small amount of possible toxins coming from a plastic bottle that might affect me 20 years from now is the least of my worries.
I have seen leaking issues when I used a generic brand water bottle but for some reason no leaks when I used an actual brand like Coke. Maybe the threads are more defined? And yeah why care about plastic toxin from a bottle, least of anyone concerns...
@@TheSurvivalOutpost Yes. Coke bottles work well.
Love the opening. I'm doing a video on why BOB is a failed concept (yes you should have one but why) so I might pinch a bit of the opening here if that is cool. You hit it hard- personal, situational, and there are too many bleeding bag names which confuses new preppers
I use the LifeStraw Mission12. Cheap, light weight, and my water is abundant and clean.
Lifestraw is a Sucker lol and Sawyer system just was too annoying. I think tablets for travel in an shtf is the best move but pay extra for all three issues! As you know of course
Sounds interesting, 99% usage for a 72hr bag is going to be natural disaster, not civil unrest, no zombie invasion etc. No need to drag along body armor and full battle rattle lol. Is the Mission12 the Gravity bag setup? I see that on Amazon. I can't speak to anything but the original Lifestraw which was revolutionary for its time but limited in use.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost Yes the gravity one. They have a 5 litre one as well but the bag is hard.
Here is the field test vid. There is an older one where I used beaver pond water for Kitty. It works well and contamination is not easy
studio.ua-cam.com/users/video1qaWHlRDrzY/edit
Most thru-hikers like the Sawyer Squeeze. Then the Grayl Water Purifier fast easy..
Been seeing lots of great reviews for Grayl, a little pricey, I haven't compared the details to the Squeeze
Those mini sawyer bags suck and they also fail at times. I put a smart water bottle for my mini sawyer and I also have my canteen cup. That setup is now in my b.o.b. kit and I put my Grayl geopress in my recce ruck for edc/outdoors. Great to see u back and looking forward to future videos this year on the channel. 👍🍻
Wow another vote for the Grayl Geopress, I feel peer pressure to buy one now lol. Glad you liked the video!
I used to have a Katadyn until it was stolen. Then I bought a Sawyer, but now I use a Grayl, with the Sawyer as backup and tablets as my emergency sterilizer if I can't use fire to boil the water. The Grayl is outstanding; it doesn't require an extra container, is easy to fill from standing or running water (although I do strain through a cloth), cleans the water with one push, and it doesn't require the degree of maintenance of either the Katadyn or the Sawyer. It also takes care of viruses and many chemicals. The biggest drawback is the relatively short life of the filter (I bought an extra, and the straining helps it last longer).
I too have all those filters, sorry to hear about the Katadyn. I also have a Grayl but my only complaint is the short filter life and the fact that it is all self contained in the bottle. Would be great if they had a portable option small and compact like Sawyer
@@TheSurvivalOutpost As I noted, that's why I carry the Sawyer as a backup, but the Grayl is superior because it is 'all-in-one (actually two)', it's perfect if you have to move fast and put distance between you and adversaries because it takes only a few seconds rather than minutes to grab water. clean it and carry it away. Clip it (new version) on your belt or pack and move out.
@@Cetok01 Yup the fast fillup and use is a great aspect.
Great presentation!
Very clear explanation on how get it done right.
I as well have the sawer for most water sources and pair mine with smartbottleinc container system.
When the time comes and i question the sawyer or my water source i use my MSR Guardian pump.
Urban environments ! The Silcox key to generate water flow then filter .
Haven’t tried MSR but if the reviews are right on Amazon it’s a great choice. Disappointed that Renovo filter is SOL
The Survival Outpost MRS you can filter your pee !
Its the right choice bullet proof construction .
Huge flow rate .
Great video, Gyrene. I EDC a HydroBlu Sidekick on body carry. I also have a Sawyer that I modded to use in a CamelBak Eddy. My main filter is a Survivor Water Filter which can be used just like the Sawyer but has a carbon filter for heavy metals and chemicals. I use Micro Pur tabs also for water decontamination. Marine+Boonie cover=Devil Dog awesomeness. Semper Fi!
Good call on that carbon filter. I’ve seen that brand before lots of solid reviews. Is the sidekick a straw filter? Rah boonie life
@@TheSurvivalOutpost yes. It's 3 stage.
In the winter here all filters pretty much fail. I have actually gravitated to potassium permanganate as my primary chemical purifier. I still use filters but with the understanding of the weaknesses they have.
When it gets close to freezing filters are totally worthless. Lucky for me, temps only get to the 30s in my area so not a concern.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost oh for sure, ones AO dictates what we carry and use!
Deep breath in to the Sawyer bag, and mine is good to go..or the platpus bags fit the Sawyer to and those a bit better and less Ridgid plastic
I’ll look at those platypus bags thanks
New Sawyer bags are more flexible than earlier versions.
Dang...you left the beautiful smokies..for florida ??
Question : Which plastic bottles are the best for water filters...I heard that SMARTWATER bottles are the best for Thru Hikers....True or false??
Always enjoy your video productions. Cheers
Yeah I do miss the Smokies! Hope to return this year. I have always heard good stuff about the SmartWater bottles, but the Survivor brand of Water filter bottle is also quite popular.
Berkley make some of the best water filters. I always buy those except for the sawyer mini I have in my camping bag.
I use a smart water bottle to flush my filters and carry my water in.
I also carry a collapsible bpa free water bottle that has the same lid. They can be found at Wal-Mart are made by outdoor products and hold a ltr of fluid. They cost approximately $3.50 and seems to be a functional option opposed to the smart water bottles or the small roll bag that comes with the sawyer mini.
I am interested in getting a befree filter for redundancy but am in no rush seeing that what I have functions so well.
Sounds like your squared away with a great setup for getting clean h2O. Any preference in water purification tabs?
@@TheSurvivalOutpost I have some leftiver from my time in the service..not sure what brand. The other ones I have I bought at walmart I would have to check the brand. Really I just keep bleach around. It has multiple uses and can also be used to purify water. You just gotta drink all the dead stuff but I don't mind. Thats is what boiling is for lol
I have the liberty lifesaver water bottle it’s a pump style water bottle filter that removes 99.99 percent of bacteria and viruses and chemicals
Nice! I'll have to check that out.
Good stuff and options what brand of multicam bandana is that?
Glad you liked it, brand is condor
What are your thoughts on, or have you tried the Grayl geopress filter?
Haven't tried but heard good things.
The hiker pro is just as good for a quarter of the price. Or survival filter pro
At this point, I don't even consider pump filters to be a good option for me. I get more function and capacity from my Sawyer Mini and bladder and easier to fill
Check out the Grayl Geopress
I have...its sitting in my Amazon cart at the moment :)
Whats the orange filter that isn't working??
Renovo MUV
I use a collapsible silicone cup to scoop water to pour into my 'dirty water' bag, and then the Sawyer. The Sawyer can also be set up as a gravity system, w/ some extra hardware
Sounds like a great setup! You can also pick up a CNOC hydration bladder bag that is fit for the Sawyer.
Since we are edging towards a dangerous situation with Iran, probably not, how about your take on surviving with terrorist attacks across the country.
Its simple really...start armed and alert in public places. Have a Get Home strategy and gear to support that mission.
It amazes me sawyer hasn't changed the bag yet.
Its long overdue.
I hope in the future someday we can all enjoy a reverse osmosis filter that is small and light and filters a hundred thousand gallons before it expires.
Then, I can filter my own pee.. and it would be clean drinking water.
That would be a dream come true. In the sci-fi book Dune, there was a suit that did exactly that.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost Stillsuits would be a game changer. Many times I have wished for one of these while hauling 8-10 liters of water in my pack through desert like central Australia lol
@@TheSurvivalOutpost Excellent movie. I saw a "Still Suit" for sale once and they were asking $1000 about 25+ years ago. Imagine the price now.
Survival filters and katadyn make pump filters for under a hundred bucks
I'm looking at an MSR and Katadyn Hiker Pro...about $89
@@TheSurvivalOutpost I'm looking at the survival filter pro (not the X ; batteries go dead at the wrong time.) And katadyn hiker pro as well.
Good video but you can bypass all this by just getting a grayl water filter.
I keep hearing about the Grayl. Can it filter more than just in the integrated bottle Ive seen? How well do it’s handle silt and related dirty water?
@@TheSurvivalOutpost dude it's just a cup you press and you can filter anything in them. Check it out
A filter should have chemical, viral and bacteria protections. You never know what’s up stream or dumped in the water.
its nice to have all those features which is why I liked this filter so much.
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