@@TheSurvivalOutpost I'm into this stuff. I learnt how important cutting down on weight was the HARD way. I've got it down to a manageable weight now. It can make the difference between it being an enjoyable trip or a special forces mission behind enemy lines lol
This is glorious, I have been researching "oregon bug out bag" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Janameron Tenylan System - (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my colleague got amazing success with it.
I may not agree with all of your suggestions, but at least you make people think...which is good. The camping stove suggestion is something that I have an issue with. You will be limited to your gas canisters. They are louder than alcohol stove, or a small fire. Also, if you damage the canisters' fitting (which I have seen by someone in a rush to connect it to the stove, leading to the canister not sealing after the first use and the stove needing to be left on the canister for the entirety of the evolution.), you may lose the entire canister or end up with the canister and stove as a bulky item. However, it is convenient, and quick. Thank you for the ideas, Brother. Keep up the great work !
Thanks glad you liked it. Indeed the stove does have its limits, BUT if indeed this is your 72hr kit, then the canister will last just fine for 3 days w/o resupply. In my mindset, for a real SHTF situation where I'm forced into the woods, I'm going to rely on quick to eat meals without much concern to actual cooking.
You could use a wood stove - small and use the items around you, twigs and carry a pencil sharpener to get some tinder to start your fire and then add the wood to the stove to heat water, food what have you. For help there are videos on youtube to build a wood stove.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost I agree with you. If the goal is 72hrs, you shouldn’t be prepping for longer than that. In a sense it’s a self fulfilling prophecy. If you a prepping for MORE time than your bug out should reasonably take, then you are actually increasing the likelihood of that happening. If I add 5lbs to my bag, that will slow me down somewhat. That then increases the odds that I need to live out of the bag for longer 72hrs. Same with those who want to rely on wood fire. Sure, fuel is easier to come by in the woods, but it takes much longer to set up, and also to gather fuel. That will slow you down as well. For a 72hr bag, I’d want to heat water/food as quickly as possible, and then keep going. If somehow you manage to use a full canister before your destination, you can still improvise a fire.
Blitz, take a SOL double size mylar heat sheet put some clear packaging tape in key spots and safety pin it to a poncho liner. Trim as needed. It will take you down to 30F with clothing on a sleeping matt as a ranger roll or as a over guilt; or it can be rigged as under quilt to the hammock with some inexpensive thin elastic bungee. It can also double as a camouflaged and waterproof tarp in a pinch. It weighs ounces and drys quickly. If really hot out simply remove the SOL mylar sheet. Have most of the exposed safety pin on the mylar side. You can spray paint the pins if desired but it’s not necessary. I use one or two of hybrid mylar ponchos for hammocking depending on the out door temps. The SOL mylar is less noisy because it is bonded to a flexible plastic sheet. I’ve used that system for 3 years. The poncho liner was only meant to take you down to 50-60F depending on clothing or whether or not you were a hot or cold sleeper. I’ve done 28F but with more clothing.
That system sounds solid af. Living in the deep south I have discovered the useful of the SOL Mylar bivy sack, couple with a blanket and thermal underwear.
At survival situation is very important to have sturdy backpack, u can get away with light and soft gear like sleeping system , inner clothing , tarp or tent , because when you are moving they are inside of pack. But everything that is outside needs to be durable and sturdy. I lightened everything except backpack , pants and jacket because those are things that will be affected by abrasion all the time.
Great video. The only thing I differ is the tent. Here in south Florida between the rain and the bugs..flying and crawling..a tent is my most important piece of gear. I love the feeling of security it provides.
This is just what I’ve been doing this evening! I’m definitely in agreement that a lighter load is the way to go. I reckon a 40-45 litre rucksack is the best size. Despite a few personal differences, the only criticism I have of your choices is your rucksack. Get a bag with a full length back that can rest better on your hips.
Size is really dependent on the mission IMO. For me 40-45L is more for long term 7 days + without resupply. For the 72hr scenario, I'm good at just 30L. Thats why I can carry that load very easily in this pack with just the stiff back panel
I loved the video. This is exactly what I was looking for. Ideas on how to reduce the weight of my pack by just changing or removing bits and pieces of gear here and there. Thank you for sharing the video.
I am starting out. I am up in age, but I don't let that stop me. I am going to do an over night hike just ringer a feel for what I may need. Your content is informative. Thank you.
That's the most important part, get out and train. Do an overnight trip. Doesnt have to be some super remote location, it can be a basic primitive camping site at the local park. Make a list of what you use and what you don't, what you wish you had, etc. Then reset your gear as needed
I've reduced weight by not using the army surplus pouches I am fond of. They are durable and tacticool, but heavy compared to a ziplock or loose in the bag somewhere. I still use them for other things, just not as much in my go bags. A lightweight knife was a good choice...I see many bags with 5 pounds of knife, which is ridiculous. Thanks for sharing, keep up the good work! Edit: I have to carry water in my bags...not enough water sources around here, or they may be dry at the time. Really adds a lot of weight.
I forgot to show the weight savings on the pouches, it was BIG. Went from 7 pouches to 3. Those heavy duty pouches are working out great. Glad you liked the video
Great video with sound advice! I worked on my bug out bag this past week using a Savotta Jakaari S backpack used by the Finnish border guards. It's an incredible backpack that has a capacity of 19 liters however the opening is made in such a way its capacity can be increased 2 to 3 liters; plus it has molle strips on three sides and on the lid. On either side I attached two water container pouches and on the back there is a Wynex organizational pouch for survival items like Bic and Crocs lighters, Fierro rod, IFAK, tourniquet, lightweight EMT shears, small Gerber multitool, Rite in the rain notepad, pen, TP, waterproof/stormproof matches, compass, signal mirror, Victorinox Rangergrip 78, whistle. My stove is a folding wood burner however I carry 12 Trioxane tablets if wood is not available or it's wet. The cooking kit is a Pathfinder 32oz with a 550ml titanium cup with lid. Shelter is a orange/reflective blanket, 5X7; sleeping system is a Telikon Swagman Roll that attaches to a Helikon poncho and two 55gl contractor bags that can configure a super shelter or even an above ground bed. The total weight including 1 liter of water plus food rations for at least 72 hours is 18.96 pounds. My EDC items in my pockets include wallet, cell phone, credit card size charger; and on a military grade belt will be my CCW, spare magazines and my favorite folder, an Ontario Rat 1 and a military grade flashlight with multiple capabilities.
Excellent kit and very well thought out. That backpack sounds intriguing, I'll have to check it out. I don't know your area in regards to weather, but maybe you need a better shelter than the reflective blanket? Tell me more about the Swagman roll...you're not the first person to mention this.
I think my shelter/sleep kit is my heaviest item right now, and only because I have multiple pieces to adapt to multiple uses. Hammock isn't really an option in my area, so I've got a usgi poncho for shelter, a secondary tarp for the ground, and a patrol bag to sleep in. I've got Paracord and tent poles for the poncho, and the poles are really the only thing I COULD ditch, but I'm not very experienced with knot tying yet, so having that alternative, easy setup with the poles is a big help right now. I don't think there's anything in my pack that I don't use ( yet ). I've been doing a ton of research and being smart about what I buy vs efficiency/weight, so I think I'm on a good track so far. Packs got some weight to it already, and I'm not done with the contents, but it's not "heavy" ( yet ). I think I heard from another UA-camr that your kit should be 20% of your body weight? Can't remember.
The sleep system always takes up space and adds a bit of weight. For me I've been able to completely ditch the sleeping bag in my region, but anything under 30 degrees gets too cold for comfort. Typicall yes your 72hr bag should be about 20% of your overall bodyweight.
You could cut the secondary tarp for the ground. You want a barrier between you and the ground that has air in it. Use heavy duty garbage bags and fill it with leaves. This creates air pockets between you and the ground that insults you. Just dump the leaves out when/ if you move camp and use the driest leaves you can. You can put a few in here so you have replacement and still cut a good bit of weight.
@Pat B. Check out corporals corner on youtube. He’s got some great videos on a quick deployable ridge line. He’s very in detail with the knots and once you make your ridge line, you can just store it and never have to tie the knots again (unless you want practice) with a pre made ridge line, you can set up your shelter in less than 2 minutes AND you can ditch them pesky poles. I suck with knots too and I just made my ridge line a few days ago, it was really easy. Also, unless your in a desert or farm field, you’d be able to find a stick to use as a pole.
Great video. I agree people really don't know what they are getting into with pack weight until they try it. I watched my wife go through this. Rather than tell her she was overpacking I just let her find out, and it was amazing how fast she learned how little she really needed. She now understands why I carry so little. But, hey! what's up with that sheath for your Mora? That thing is a work of art. Did you make it?
My pack is heavy. Especially in the tool department. My philosophy is prepare for a bunch of situations and if you need to you can ditch it to save weight.
10-4 - I hear you. I do much the same. It's nice to have an assortment of options depending on the situation and then drop weight depending on the situation. If you are in a bad situation then likely someone else near you will be too that could greatly appreciate them. Having the ability to hand a family some extra blankets and tarp, knife, and a bic lighter and a steel cup / extra food that you might have would help them for a few days. Who knows, they might be able to return the favor by providing information or have friends that are 2 days walk. Generally most people are within 30 miles from home or someone they know that lives in the area.
Its impossible to carry all the things for all or most hypothetical situations. Thats why the gear set needs to be mission dependent. I used to do the same...then after time and training I reset everything. Started with the barebones basics, cutting tool, cordage, container, etc, the 5 C's. From that I then added on anything that was "nice to have". Of course time and experience training with your gear will show you what you need and what you don't.
The Survival Outpost it is impossible to carry everything for every situation. I try to carry urban and wilderness supplies. Everything thing in my kit is disposable. Training and skill does replace tools needed and doesn’t weigh anything.
The Survival Outpost 40 lbs. I know lighter is better that’s why I look at my kit as disposable. It is to help me and my family survive 3 days to a week.
The poncho hooch is reliable in rain as well as heat,, when snow show's up care is taken to compensate for the wight of the snow,branches at anchor points may bend down, also small holes begin to appear from Spark's coming from fire,,if you find yourself in snow,a wikiups is simple and efficient for a quick shelter,this can be built using tree limbs and branches even sage brush,be conscious of the formation of water,have a fun trip!
Great to learn from ultralight backpackers, but you don’t mention a sleep pad/under quilt and a sleeping bag/quilt. Are you carrying those essentials for sleeping on a hammock? If you’ve ever actually used your hammock in a real outdoor sleeping situation, you will find it gets very cold having air block underneath you!
This gearset is designed for 72hrs in the field, no resupply. The propane easily lasts for that long. For the multitool, just the by name, it might sound like its a good idea to pack it...but I've never used mine. Ever. So it was removed. The only situation where I bring a multitool is on my warbelt.
One consequence of cutting back on one's bug out stuff is that the weight of one's wallet increases substantially. Of course, in many respects, this is a very good trade-off. It also has the effect of reducing the amount of gear videos on youtube. Also possibly a good thing. ;-)
The problem with most “lightweight” items is the loss of durability (typically titanium items don’t fall in this situation). In a true survival situation are you absolutely sure you’re willing to lose item durability? Mora knives have been proven to not be so tough when used to baton wood.
@@canadafree2087 ahh yes, the schmug hiker community. The most bold and hardened of them all. I guess I’ll pack up my 20 years military experience on what does and doesn’t work in shitty situations. You hikers got this…
i've seen beckers/ka-bars being destroyed by batoning, esee's, ontarios, schrade's... knives werent made to be used for batoning. sure you can do it, but sooner or later they'll snap. axe/hatchet is best way to go. paired with good saw/folding saw( just love my outback gomoboy 240) there shouldnt be any need to baton with knife.
Random thoughts; -- Caches enroute (for food/water),-- Fleece blanket instead of woobie, -- Carry a collapsible bladder (hydrapak 4L) empty and fill when needed, -- Add a canteen cup to your ww2 canteen and dump the cookset (probably same weight but more compact) -- If you do away with your pouches, then do you need a ruck with Molle webbing (depending on weight it is, i'd switch it out) ---> Another totally random thought ... do you need a ruck? or can you use a Ribz chest pack or something else (i recently bought a Foxtrot MKII belt rig, outstanding piece of kit)
Great tips Neil, always appreciate your comments. Good point about adding the canteen cup, then don't need the cookset at, just the burner. Technically I could do without that as well and just live on MRES and snacks for a few days. Not a big deal. About the pack, I'd love to run a belt rig with a butt pouch for summer. Been considering that vs buying a Direction Action Dragon Egg. Just depends on how small I can get my shelter and sleep system.
I remember when the multitools came out and I just never got into using them on a day to day basis. That being said, I do keep one of the cheapest lightest ones I could find in my pack. For no other reason than the pliers. After having watched one of the seasons of Alone where the girl stuck a fish hook through her hand and did not have something that would remove it. Yes I know this is an extreme situation but so is running through the woods in a SHTF situation trying to get home. Rather have a cheap lightweight one just in case.
Great video on unloading weight from your big out bag. My question is do you carry extra water in your canteen ? In a SHTF do you start off with water or just start looking for it ?
I am so guilty of over packing in the past. To get over this I would go out for a 1 or 2 nighter and write down what I didnt use. After about ten different trips whatever kept popping up on the list got taken out the pack. Of course medical and medicine didnt get taken out.
A trick to explore would be to leave some caches on your BO route to your BOL. For example : You maybe need two or three fuel canister to reach the BOL, you leave one in the bag, the others in caches in the distances you expect to need it
This is a great plan and I can tell you from experience and testing it works great. Just don't make the mistake of burying your caches too deep...makes retrieval a real PITA.
My pack is 35-40 pounds. However I pack canned goods and at least 1 bottle of water lol. I carry my pack every time I go I'm the woods, and I typically use a lot of it when I Bushcraft and such. I carry a Sawyer mini for water.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost no sir, not unless it's a fresh fish on a stick lol. I eat beef stew for meals, and I carry a handful of granola and nuts and such.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost I go into the ozark national forest, far away from civilizations, typically on bluff overhangs (caves). I'm a minimilist, but My gear for a 5-7 day camp weighs around 140 pounds lol... That's when I take cookware and extra clothes....maybe even a pillow lmao.
I started with a 5.11 72 Rush bag. Year ago I switched to the Direct Action Dragon Egg MKII. Forced me to rethink my whole kit. I prefer wood burning so I used a lightweight woodburner that folds down flat. Works great. I did the same as you and ditched the pathfinder canteen a long time ago for a mil nalgene canteen and boil/cook with the nesting cup. My sleep system is like yours, hammock, poncho and i have a poncho liner. I keep an emergency bivi too, as its small and lightweight. I also ditched my multitool a long time ago. Its heavy and I rarely find a need for it when I go camping. Having a small capacity pack helps a lot with forcing you to use SWC(Size Weight Constraints). Iodine tablets and a good filter plus a couple bandanas is all I need for H2O. Tablets if Im in a hurry, filter I always use even with the tablets, and ill boil when I have time to. I also combined my fire, tool and H20 kits into 1 pouch which saved me a lot of space. Cordura has a lot of weight to it so having a lot of tactical cordura pouches adds to overall weight, so I did same as you last year and started using those lightweight H20 proof zip bags.
Funny you mention the Dragon Egg, that's my next purchase for my new summer 72hr kit. Great minds think alike, obviously you've been out training with your gear, good on you.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost You can get it straight from Direct Action for the regular price. Thats where I got mine. Available on Amazon and Ebay. Ones on Ebay come directly from the manufacturer as they are made in Vietnam. DA gear is all extremely high quality though. I own a lot of their mag pouches, 2 ifaks and hoping to get their Spitfire plate carrier someday, along with another Dragon Egg for EDC/Get Home Bag.
@@rtek777 I did see a price diff between the primary website and the Amazon page...not much I think $10. The Pencott Greenzone is a PERFECT match for summer and barely any brands use that camo pattern.
The 1944 canteen is kick butt cool but I would actually suggest going with a plastic one. I have one from 1976 that is still going strong. The canteen kit I usually use is the Russian VDV aluminum kit. I love how compact it is and have carried it for years. Two things I would suggest are lanolin and Tiger Balm or even Vicks if you can use it (I can not). The lanolin is amazing for almost any skin condition and burns longer than petroleum jelly when paired with cotton balls. The Tiger Balm is an amazing topical pain reliever that I use on my feet when they are sore and also works well for colds. With the high menthol content it should also work to help repel insects. My one three season kit has been 17lbs dry for years but the pack itself is heavier than needed because I just love it. Most of the gear is from 2GoSystems, poncho, bivy and tarp. My heavy bag runs about 30lbs but it isn't quit set up for the -45 Celcius that we have had for the last three days. If I had to leave now the kit would be just over 40lbs and likely behind me on a sled thanks to the snow. I would actually probably have closer to 60lbs total just because. Things like a full size axe are worth the weight in silver this time of year.
I have the VDV kit :) however I do like placing my canteen by the fire to heat up water....can't do that with plastic however odds of hanging out by the fire in a real SHTF hostile situation is slim. I could indeed swap out for plastic.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost you have a valid point about warming the canteen by the fire and fire is critical to life this month here. It has been below -40 Celsius for three days and is now below 30. In the short term one might be able to get away without one but I really wouldn't want to.with enough snow and other insulation you can survive, but it is not pleasant.
I just use different size Ziploc bags, sandwich, quart, 1 gal, 1-40 oz clean canteen single wall, machete an saw, 1- cookpot SS, etc, etc, poncho an woobie, an 1 reflective emergency blanket, KISS principle applys
If you do go the pouch route for organising small items it’s one area I saved a lot of weight - simply because I do not need 1000d cordura heavy pouches. I like to have things organised so for anything attached on the outside of my pack I’m using 500d at most (I’m not in a combat zone so that is sufficient). I have gone for ones made by T3 gear which are excellent and light weight as well as some of the Blue Force Gear as their 10 speed molle is super light. For internal items I like to use mesh bags and 70d nylon pouches - Viper, helikon tex, one Tigris and Black Orca all make good value super light ones. In a INCH bag set up it saves pounds!
Great minds think alike it seems :) I forgot to share the weight savings but it was substantial when I replaced cordura pouches with those bags. BFG is good stuff very light weight with the laser cut molle. Gotta pay a little more but indeed you save POUNDS! Great job
I agree tgst going light is best, but sometimes cheap and sturdy is more affordable. But we can always compromise or we plan with companions to each carry particular items so you have a variety of tools and gear without one person being loaded heavily.
Would you like the challenge I had putting together a system for an older 4'8" woman yet enough for two? For the north east! I also included a few things that can be left behind. Better to have the options especially for cold conditions. Also consider adding a good "balaclava" that is wind proof and water proof leg gaiters. You can roll tight the balaclava and wrap it in plastic wrap and the same with the gaiters to save space.
That is def a challenge especially a system designed to support two people. I agree about the balaclava and gaiters. What was your choice for backpack?
@@TheSurvivalOutpost lol Started with a 5.11 RUSH MOAB 10 Sling Pack and it only came up short when I got to the sleeping system. The 5.11 10 is perfect size for short people if adding a military pack belt through the hide away the L/R sling harness stuffs into providing great comfort even test weighing 27lb although when done it weighed in at 18 lbs, the belt carried all the weight not the sling harness. The pack Molle held a great 10 power monocular, light, First Aid, Treking Poles, stuffs pouch for a belt, Canteen cook set. When deployed many weighty things would be used by hanging onto the belt. All things not being equal plus myself having a hand deficit to accommodate the sleeping system and being small also I switched to a Kelty Yukon 48 external frame backpack I fasten to a 4 lb dolly using one hook & loop belt strap. The dolly came with a water proof bag with shoulder slings and fastens to the dolly frame. It is unlikely a 4'8 person would travel alone for long and more likely would walk paved surfaces so saving energy utilizing the 4 lb dolly is a plus or can be discarded. Also provides a seat for wet conditions. The Kelty externally holds the monocular, a Mora Knife, .5 lb hatchet and I've set up 2 Fishing Chest Packs that can be used as is, on a waist belt which they also have or fastened to the Kelty shoulder harness yet stored inside till the Kelty is utilized. Again because of all things not being equal - 1 chest pack is dedicated to the most used survival gear such as Clipper lighter, mirror, tiny jar of Vicks, Chap stick, note pad/pencil, whistle, multi tool, folding knife, poncho, hand warners, light, salt/pepper, compass, fire starters and more with external fasteners on the chest packs available to use. 2nd Chest pack is dedicated to all things camp setup as in pre cut cordages, carabiners, 2nd Clipper lighter and neck knife. Myself using pockets on one side is problematic so these Chest packs solve many problems while reducing misplacing things. While I am skilled at knot tying remember I have a hand deficit and planning for those who are not proficient. 2 Carabiners are large figure 9's and 2 are large Cam-Jams and I've made 2 - 44" tree straps with loops. Given the problems and knowing the importance of positive thinking in likely stressful situations I fell this is a good trade-off and as already stated one can select to leave things behind and repack.
LOL yes that water does look terrible BUT have no fear that color is caused by decaying leaves releasing tannic acid. Filter takes care of it no problem.
I got my 3 day pack down to 24 pounds including 2 liters of water and food. I got away from all of the tactical gear, saved a ton of weight on my pack. I went with the canister stove and a titanium pot. I used smart water bottles and a sawyer filter, they screw right on. It was a 3 season setup. I probably went through my pack 5 times, getting rid of stuff. I had to change my mindset, for me it was a 3 day pack and when you look at that compared to maybe a 3 week bug out bag, you can get rid of a lot of the redundancies.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost 3 season I use a tarp and hammock with a down throw if needed thermarest 4 season pad( i forget the name, its their top pad). Winter I use the pad, military gore tex bivy and sleeping bag
I’d love a follow up on the bag instead of the pouches, I’m having that debate with myself too, I’d like to know your thoughts on how much your should be waterproofing your kit
To cut weight the most important thing to take out is water. Then take out any shelter you might have or heavy knives. You want the smallest micro backpack as possible.typically on average in every bug out situation that has ever been recorded worldwide you will have to walk at least 182.5. you also on average have to defend yourself 82 times. so make sure when you're traveling to look like a gray man but still conceal an AR-15 plate carrier. The best green man footwear for battle and travel are flip flops.
Yup that water is a big variable. I've cut back on what I carry...but like I said it depends on the situation and area. Most people couldn't walk 5 miles much less nearly 200 miles. Gotta cut the weight down. Can I ask where you got those numbers from?
I’m raising the bullshit flag on this one. Where are you getting your stats? When Katrina smashes into Biloxi myself and a few other SeaBees took our bugout bags threw them in our truck and drive 25 miles to a buddies farm where we stayed for nearly six months. We were never forced to defend ourselves. Anyone who was in the Gulf coast knows how bad it was. No water, no electricity, no law (the jail was wiped out. All you heard was shooting at night. People killed people for the gas in their cars. Bugout bags are not meant for running around all tacticool. Point A to point B is your goal period.
@James Reich Absolutely agree!!! My comment was sarcasm. Walk like you mean business. Gray man invites trouble. Hard man deturrs it. How much does survival weigh? As much as it needs too! Ha! I'd rather be a moron and have it than a genius and need it. My motto start with everything and discard per scenario.
@@tomjjackson21 I hear ya...done the same thing with tools...in the future would be great to have a dedicated survival retreat where all this stuff could be stored or cached
There are several "rule of 3's". When it comes to backpacks it's "3 things to do every job and everything does 3 jobs". That's not always possible but if you fallow it as much as possible it will really cut your pack weight down. A knife is an easy example, you can dress game, build a shelter and defend your life with it and so much more. A cook pot: you can cook in it, boil water in it and drink out of it. the old military poncho: you can wear it as a poncho, use it for shelter and carry water in it. The list goes on for all of these items but you get the point. If you stick to this rule as much as you can and pick pack items that will do 3 thing you will save a lot of pack weight. Items in your pack will vary depending on it's purpose. Is it a patrol pack, BOB, get home bag or I.N.C.H. bag? The core items will be the same because human needs are the same no matter the mission at hand: food, water, shelter are needs. Comfort however is relative. If it's an I.N.C.H. bag comfort is going to matter a lot because your going to be carrying it for an unknown amount of time and a fighting load may not be the biggest concern. A patrol pack on the other hand: comfort while still somewhat important is going to take a back seat to fighting load and you will need food that you don't have to cook or heat. These are my choices, you have to make your own. I use a GOOD cable saw in stead of a hatchet or folding saw. mostly because of weight. I carry a poncho/shelter half instead of a tent or a tarp. A sleeping bag with a water proof shell, no sleeping pad or ground cover. I wrap dental floss around the handle of my tooth brush, no need to carry the whole roll. A pill bottle of baking soda is very useful and is very light. No need to carry a whole roll of tape: duct tape wrapped around a strap is accessible and lite. A half used roll of electrical tape can be tied on MOLLI with a small loop of para-cord. The one thing I want to stress the most is "don't make a pack mule out of your self". I'm not trying to be mean but you said "If I remember correctly" that your pack in this video is 70 or 75 Lb's. and you don't have a weapon, mags or ammo with it. Those things will be another 30 Lb's. and that's going to bring you to 100 to 105 Lb's. Most people are not going to be able to carry that far especially over hilly or rough Terrain.
I've recently gone back to a tent for my GHB; the new ultralight 2 person ones are super light and reasonably priced. because 95% of the time in the car with wife or other person; and most of the time >3 days away so having a place for getting changed ; do medical etc and well; I'm from australia so spiders :) I do plan to ditch it and just use my poncho and woobie if just me but for "non bugout" emergences; can much easier setup tent and sleep that near car than go full survivalist.
Always exploring new places. And yeah that water looks awful, its actually has a name "Black Water". It gets that color from dead vegetation that releases tannic acid. But it filters clean and tastes great :)
As much as I’d like to reduce weight... I won’t sacrifice an item for another unless it’s just as durable. Quality is very important. I’ve broken lots of things by its intended use alone. If the lighter item is on par or superior then of course I’ll take it. “I never use this”..... well you haven’t had to yet.... but I promise a time would come in a worst case scenario where you’d absolutely welcome it. Find items that can serve more than one purpose. Sometimes the “2 is 1” saying is super important and other times it’s not. And of course all of this depends on location. I live in the middle of the desert so I HAVE to carry water. No way around it.
Yup 100% agree. I don't ever sacrifice durability, quality does matter and tools that serve more than one purpose are very important. Like you said location matters so you gotta carry extra water especially in the spring/summer season I imagine. Maybe someone who lives in the PNW would carry more items related to firestarting due to the wet climate vs me here in Florida where tinder is typically very dry and abundant.
Most people need to realize: bug out bags are for 72 hours. Not a week. Not a month. Not 5 damn decades. Just 3 days. Don't stuff your damn house in a bag. Bare essentials, focused on bushcraft or urban necessities, are enough.
If you like camping, just go camping. You don't need a bug out bag or survival this and SHTF that. Go camping. Have a beer in the woods. It's perfectly OK.
Better to compress a larger pack because you can never scale up with a small one. I use a medium ALICE with a spray painted sustainment pouch on each side.
Yes excellent point, can't scale up from a tiny to big. Have you upgraded your ALICE pack shoulder harness and hip belt? If not Tactical Tailor has some good options.
i have almost 2 of everything cell phone GPS all have wires but i have a flashlight that is solar and can recharge i also have usb charging batteries just saying
You definitely can save weight by switching out from a Military 500 or 750 D enier cordura pack to a lighter material pack, Ultramarathon or Trail running type pack. Also anything without Molle saves weight as its just several Lbs of thick webbing sewn to the outside of your pack you have to carry for very little gain. If you really really need to use Molle you can hand stitch on gutted 550 cord or go for a laser cut option.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost My go to INCH bag is the Marine ILBE pack system, but for a Bob or get out of dodge situation I like to focus on covering distance so a lighter weight hiking bag suits me fine, If you go for a decent brand quality isn't too much of an issue. I use a Fjallraven Abisko.
I reduced the weight of mine by changing to a lightweight tent, (mosquitos will eat your alive at night in summer where I live if you sleep with a tarp, hard lesson learned there) also I dropped some tools, changed my cook kit as well and went from a sleeping bag to a fleece blanket.
My big thing has been trying to find a solid sleeping bag or arraignment for my area- gets up to about 70 degrees in the day but can get down to 20 at night- any advice for sleeping gear in climates with variable weather?
I'll have a video coming out soon on my ultralight sleep system that might help get you started in the right direction. I'm running a SOL bivy sack, fleece blanket, heavy thermal underwear, wool gloves, balaclava and I'm good to go down to about 30 degrees....and yeah I also added a sleeping bag liner which raises the temps about 10 degrees. Still packs lighter and smaller than sleeping bag.
*BALANCED APPROACH:* *Of course we should move as light weight as possible. Even for a healthy young strong person, total weight should not exceed 20% of body weight. Less is better. But ultimately a "bug-out-bag" should be designed with the idea that you are NOT returning. With all that said, your original comment **_"Can I live with out it?"_** can be balanced remembering **_"it's better to have it & not need it, than to need it & not have it."_*
The 72hr kit is dependent on the situation in terms of gear carried. I don't believe its accurate to say the BOB is designed w/ the idea of not returning. There may be a hurricane that requires me to get my three day kit, but I very well (hopefully) return back home. Or lets say the situation is civil unrest in your area and you have no estimate at all on returning when or if and if you do, your home may be gone. In that case you may pack a kit for longer duration without resupply. Balance is everything like you say, if I'm carrying a tool that can reasonably left behind because another tool can be improvised or used in its place then I leave that item. Also the gear is mission dependent so my gear set for evac during a dangerous situation of no rule of law will be different than a kit designed to deal with a natural disaster that most likely doesn't entail major human threats.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost *Nice. I appreciate your thought on improvising a tool or piece of equipment. You & I know ultimately "the more you know the less you need". Seeing as my wife & I've been participating (on average twice a year) in survival hikes & "prepping" since the 1990s before prepping was cool we personally can survive 'Naked & Unafraid' now! Hahaha! But just because I can doesn't mean I'd want to. Lol!* *So my mindset has evolved over the years to take action the first time for a worst case scenario so that my muscle memory, economy of movement, & decision making is simplified. For a well prepared & experienced person like yourself, knowing when to grab a 72 kit vs a completed BOB is a cinch. Personally I have lived my whole life on the Texas coast so I appreciate your example of hurricanes. But most (not all) people won't have a clue & dare I say, even many Preppers may struggle with poor judgment & argumentive family members. So all things being equal, it's simpler to train a person to get really proficient handling just one gun/pack/etc rather than multiple choices that may require a judgment they may be ill prepared to make.* *With all that said, I apologize if came across contradictory. I was attempting to harmonize with your message. But I recognize you were most likely speaking to experienced Preppers & not necessarily newbies, so I apologize for any misunderstanding. It is in my nature to tailor my comments for newbies & that is why I agreed with your video. Everyone needs to be reminded to scale back on weight where they can. A perfect example in your video was dropping the tent in exchange for a tarp! BRILLIANT! I was so excited to see that because we stopped using tarps 11 years ago (all seasons; I probably could have gone without a tent near 15 years ago but it took 4yrs to convince my wife. Ha!).* *So I guess we can truly say, weight can continue to be dropped the more we know. Hmm. I like that. I think I'll amend that well known "Prepperism" (Prepper Wisdom/Saying):* *"The more you know the lighter your load."* *Now that may incentivise more people to enhance their preparedness education for the reward of a lighter load because sadly the word "less" may not translate in the mind of many to "lighter". Good.* *Liberty = Peace & I pray you & yours always enjoy both, brother.*
Yeah looks like piss tbh...but its actually called Black Water, its that color from tannic acid released from decaying vegetation that falls into the river. That Katadyn is the BEST. I'm using it all the damn time now.
Really appreciate your input on lightweight gear and looking to the ultralight community for ideas. Hey y'all dont forget his Patreon site is now up and im finding that to be one of the best out there. ~Peter
Here in Puerto Rico the weather is 365/y tropical. We made huge changes to the structure for BoB/Survival Bags and Long term survival bags with better organization. We have a 3 day BoB that weights just 15 pounds with everything. The best of ultralight and the best of everything still there are some items that can be replaced to save a few ounces but are way to expensive and dont last as much due to the material made for ultralight. We have a FB page(content mostly in spanish) facebook.com/survivalpreppr
@@TheSurvivalOutpost Yes, it rains but its not always raining like some places. Its a mix of high temperatures and rains, there's dry season in spring, summer is a mix of sun(temperatures between 95 to 105) and a lot of rain since we start the Hurricane Season until fall. It is beautiful out here, you should visit someday, since its a US Territory you don't need a passport to travel. After COVID-19 is done if you plan something out for PR we can collab a 3 day or 5 day survival trip, if anything contact me via the FB page!
Wait your trying to get under 20 lb for your 72 hour bag? I made one for 2 weeks that was under 20 and that had a box of ammo in it. That was my first try. Granted that was for getting the hell out of dodge when people are trying to kill you and you can’t risk a fire. Still had flint and steal but it would have taken me very good conditions to get a fire going with that little thing.
Sub 20lbs is only really feasible during summer I have found...and really it just depends on how bad you prefer life to suck. More gear makes life bearable, less gear = more suck.
Remember to test your Bug Out Bag regularly (hike with it, shoot with it, run with it), and rotate the supplies regularly (fresh water / food, medical, fuel).
@@gruntgearreview6490 Yup absolutely gotta be in shape. I follow a hybrid powerlifting regime combined with boxing to give me an excellent combo of strength + conditioning...also its fun to punch people in the face.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost thats good stuff. I've found a balance of weight lifting and cardio works pretty well for me. Not enough lifting and you can't lift your pack, not enough running and you can't move with it.
Jesus, where the hell do you live. That river water looks like my first morning piss. The nastiest water sources I’ve seen in my home state of Idaho are still clear haha good video, I enjoyed it fully.
LOL I cannot tell you how many people have commented on the water. Its quite good actually, the color is from leaves releasing tanic acid in the water. Idaho though...man I'd love to explore that state some
@@TheSurvivalOutpost yeah I love Idaho, northern anyway. Tannic Acid from leaves, makes sense. Ok now instead of pee, I’ll think of some back woods tea when I see that water haha
Yep it could be for good so if one is serious, look at your gear and ask yourself...if I'm never coming back home, what exactly am I willing to leave behind?
The best way to find what you keep, what you remove is to get to the field for an overnight trip. Apart from that you're just guessing. The sleep system is a big item taking up space and weight. Luckily when summer hits I ditch the sleeping bag...
At survival situation is very important to have sturdy backpack, u can get away with light and soft tarp, tent , inner clothing , sleeping system etc becuz while u moving its inside of a pack. But everything that is outside like backpack and outer clothing needs to be sturdy and durable. I lightened all my inside gear but keep durable backpack , pants and jacket.
Water, a big issue. I live in the desert and carrying enough water to get to the next source is vital...Sooooo.. I would like to introduce a novel idea, that noone is talking about: Dehydrated water!!! Just add water and BOOM!! INSTANT HYDRATION! Still working out some kinks ... you know manufacturing issues and stuff...
@@TheSurvivalOutpost 5 reduced sodium mers, a few things some reduced sodium spam and tuna packs with crackers, PB, and some cliff bars. I also have two cans of corned beef and hash. I have a high metabolism and and on the lower weight scale so I have to compensate for that. But I can stretch things out since I know my limits. I hiked the AZ mountains and ate half a Mre at the top and was filled. Water I have two 32 Oz water bottles since you burn through that more than food. My Alice pack is 26 pounds. With a cold weather sleeping bag and shelter set up. But my hot weather stuff is on a web gear line up. It suits my needs.
Don't forget hard candy, i get big bags if individual wrapped lifesavers, and de orange flavor, tried other types,jolly rancher, butterscotch etc but they turn soft and R A gooey mess 2 unwrap.🍬
I agree with looking into backpackers. Ive done a video very silimar to this after a trip. Now why keep the metal canteen and canteen cup. I see you use your filter to tabs for most water. So you never boil water in it. You have the backpacker stove for cooking. Seems like two heavy peices of gear you never use.
Exactly, that's why I swapped the Pathfinder canteen & cup for that smaller WW2 issue canteen / no cup. I like to have filled up with water so if I want to cook something such as the Raymen, I have clean water, not boiled yellow water
@@TheSurvivalOutpost hikers use basic water bottles light weight and does the same. You can also get a 2 or 3 l cnoc bag for your katadyn filter. So if you couldnt filter your water in that location you could grab it and filter it later
NO ! . . . . You never remove your winter gear . BECAUSE ! If a S. H. T. F. really happens . You may not have time to get the winter gear ready & have to redo your pack . Must be ready to go . For year round . at all times ! ( Must be ready to go in a minute . At the spur of the moment . ) Be ready to leave everything & everybody if necessary in one minute .
If you only have one bag then yes it has to be all season and will be larger no matter what. I have two bags, one for spring/summer and one for fall/winter.
I'll stick to my awesome WISPORT REINDEER HUNT 55L RUCKSACK and carry the gear i am comfortable and need, cause shit if you think a SHTF scenario would only take 3 days bugging out? it'll be too late get the things you guys left at home. And when reality hits you in the face when you gotta face reality and you're gonna start sobbing like on those survival shows, uncomfortable and sick and tired. A disaster can take weeks to months Societal collapse, we got the government attacking their citizens because of their skin colors and pushing socialist ideologies. You got them attacking white people saying they are evil and that everything wrong that happens is their fault and are indoctrinating our children to believe that.
Knowledge weights nothing. Learn to survive without ANY metal tools. Cordage is easy to make, while still on the move, a stone ax is just as easy to make, cuts only little slower then a heavy steel ax.
@@billrichbourg548 Could, just harder. Have to know where to find usable rock. But i agree with your point, some places a tool already to go is worth the weight.
Tools are mission dependent. If your goal is to live off the land in a peacetime setting then sure go for it, go all primitive stone age. But if your goal is survival and escape from hostile forces then tools are must.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost Neat. you learn something new everyday. but i seriously thought sewage just drained right into that part of the river. Thanks for the Info.
@@chrisspray666 Reasonable lol...cause that water looks like piss or something even worse. Great test for that Katadyn filter, comes out tasting great and 100% clear
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I'm into this stuff. I learnt how important cutting down on weight was the HARD way. I've got it down to a manageable weight now. It can make the difference between it being an enjoyable trip or a special forces mission behind enemy lines lol
Go and hike 6-12miles with your kit. Then take stock of what you carry. You should be hiking once or twice monthly anyway. Get out there.
This is glorious, I have been researching "oregon bug out bag" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Janameron Tenylan System - (do a google search ) ? Ive heard some unbelievable things about it and my colleague got amazing success with it.
I may not agree with all of your suggestions, but at least you make people think...which is good.
The camping stove suggestion is something that I have an issue with. You will be limited to your gas canisters. They are louder than alcohol stove, or a small fire. Also, if you damage the canisters' fitting (which I have seen by someone in a rush to connect it to the stove, leading to the canister not sealing after the first use and the stove needing to be left on the canister for the entirety of the evolution.), you may lose the entire canister or end up with the canister and stove as a bulky item.
However, it is convenient, and quick.
Thank you for the ideas, Brother.
Keep up the great work !
Thanks glad you liked it. Indeed the stove does have its limits, BUT if indeed this is your 72hr kit, then the canister will last just fine for 3 days w/o resupply. In my mindset, for a real SHTF situation where I'm forced into the woods, I'm going to rely on quick to eat meals without much concern to actual cooking.
or... just build a small fire and carry a little grate... eliminates the need for the fuel canister and stove.. or get a little foldable pack stove...
good to have when all is wet though
You could use a wood stove - small and use the items around you, twigs and carry a pencil sharpener to get some tinder to start your fire and then add the wood to the stove to heat water, food what have you. For help there are videos on youtube to build a wood stove.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost I agree with you. If the goal is 72hrs, you shouldn’t be prepping for longer than that. In a sense it’s a self fulfilling prophecy.
If you a prepping for MORE time than your bug out should reasonably take, then you are actually increasing the likelihood of that happening.
If I add 5lbs to my bag, that will slow me down somewhat. That then increases the odds that I need to live out of the bag for longer 72hrs. Same with those who want to rely on wood fire. Sure, fuel is easier to come by in the woods, but it takes much longer to set up, and also to gather fuel. That will slow you down as well.
For a 72hr bag, I’d want to heat water/food as quickly as possible, and then keep going. If somehow you manage to use a full canister before your destination, you can still improvise a fire.
Blitz, take a SOL double size mylar heat sheet put some clear packaging tape in key spots and safety pin it to a poncho liner. Trim as needed. It will take you down to 30F with clothing on a sleeping matt as a ranger roll or as a over guilt; or it can be rigged as under quilt to the hammock with some inexpensive thin elastic bungee. It can also double as a camouflaged and waterproof tarp in a pinch. It weighs ounces and drys quickly. If really hot out simply remove the SOL mylar sheet. Have most of the exposed safety pin on the mylar side. You can spray paint the pins if desired but it’s not necessary. I use one or two of hybrid mylar ponchos for hammocking depending on the out door temps. The SOL mylar is less noisy because it is bonded to a flexible plastic sheet. I’ve used that system for 3 years. The poncho liner was only meant to take you down to 50-60F depending on clothing or whether or not you were a hot or cold sleeper. I’ve done 28F but with more clothing.
That system sounds solid af. Living in the deep south I have discovered the useful of the SOL Mylar bivy sack, couple with a blanket and thermal underwear.
At survival situation is very important to have sturdy backpack, u can get away with light and soft gear like sleeping system , inner clothing , tarp or tent , because when you are moving they are inside of pack. But everything that is outside needs to be durable and sturdy. I lightened everything except backpack , pants and jacket because those are things that will be affected by abrasion all the time.
Great point, gotta have tough backpack.
And really good boots & sox
@@tomcatt1824 right , i forgot to say about boots , they are also external layer
Great video. The only thing I differ is the tent. Here in south Florida between the rain and the bugs..flying and crawling..a tent is my most important piece of gear. I love the feeling of security it provides.
a tent is great to have, but these days I won't leave home without my hammock and bug net.
This is just what I’ve been doing this evening! I’m definitely in agreement that a lighter load is the way to go. I reckon a 40-45 litre rucksack is the best size. Despite a few personal differences, the only criticism I have of your choices is your rucksack. Get a bag with a full length back that can rest better on your hips.
Size is really dependent on the mission IMO. For me 40-45L is more for long term 7 days + without resupply. For the 72hr scenario, I'm good at just 30L. Thats why I can carry that load very easily in this pack with just the stiff back panel
I loved the video. This is exactly what I was looking for. Ideas on how to reduce the weight of my pack by just changing or removing bits and pieces of gear here and there. Thank you for sharing the video.
Excellent glad it was helpful!
I am starting out. I am up in age, but I don't let that stop me. I am going to do an over night hike just ringer a feel for what I may need. Your content is informative. Thank you.
That's the most important part, get out and train. Do an overnight trip. Doesnt have to be some super remote location, it can be a basic primitive camping site at the local park. Make a list of what you use and what you don't, what you wish you had, etc. Then reset your gear as needed
So how did it go?
I've reduced weight by not using the army surplus pouches I am fond of. They are durable and tacticool, but heavy compared to a ziplock or loose in the bag somewhere. I still use them for other things, just not as much in my go bags. A lightweight knife was a good choice...I see many bags with 5 pounds of knife, which is ridiculous. Thanks for sharing, keep up the good work!
Edit: I have to carry water in my bags...not enough water sources around here, or they may be dry at the time. Really adds a lot of weight.
I forgot to show the weight savings on the pouches, it was BIG. Went from 7 pouches to 3. Those heavy duty pouches are working out great. Glad you liked the video
great timing on this video. I almost made a " help me lose some pounds in my pack" video for ideas. Thanks.
Awesome, hope you got some good ideas...
Great video with sound advice! I worked on my bug out bag this past week using a Savotta Jakaari S backpack used by the Finnish border guards. It's an incredible backpack that has a capacity of 19 liters however the opening is made in such a way its capacity can be increased 2 to 3 liters; plus it has molle strips on three sides and on the lid. On either side I attached two water container pouches and on the back there is a Wynex organizational pouch for survival items like Bic and Crocs lighters, Fierro rod, IFAK, tourniquet, lightweight EMT shears, small Gerber multitool, Rite in the rain notepad, pen, TP, waterproof/stormproof matches, compass, signal mirror, Victorinox Rangergrip 78, whistle. My stove is a folding wood burner however I carry 12 Trioxane tablets if wood is not available or it's wet. The cooking kit is a Pathfinder 32oz with a 550ml titanium cup with lid. Shelter is a orange/reflective blanket, 5X7; sleeping system is a Telikon Swagman Roll that attaches to a Helikon poncho and two 55gl contractor bags that can configure a super shelter or even an above ground bed. The total weight including 1 liter of water plus food rations for at least 72 hours is 18.96 pounds. My EDC items in my pockets include wallet, cell phone, credit card size charger; and on a military grade belt will be my CCW, spare magazines and my favorite folder, an Ontario Rat 1 and a military grade flashlight with multiple capabilities.
Excellent kit and very well thought out. That backpack sounds intriguing, I'll have to check it out. I don't know your area in regards to weather, but maybe you need a better shelter than the reflective blanket? Tell me more about the Swagman roll...you're not the first person to mention this.
I think my shelter/sleep kit is my heaviest item right now, and only because I have multiple pieces to adapt to multiple uses.
Hammock isn't really an option in my area, so I've got a usgi poncho for shelter, a secondary tarp for the ground, and a patrol bag to sleep in. I've got Paracord and tent poles for the poncho, and the poles are really the only thing I COULD ditch, but I'm not very experienced with knot tying yet, so having that alternative, easy setup with the poles is a big help right now.
I don't think there's anything in my pack that I don't use ( yet ). I've been doing a ton of research and being smart about what I buy vs efficiency/weight, so I think I'm on a good track so far.
Packs got some weight to it already, and I'm not done with the contents, but it's not "heavy" ( yet ).
I think I heard from another UA-camr that your kit should be 20% of your body weight? Can't remember.
The sleep system always takes up space and adds a bit of weight. For me I've been able to completely ditch the sleeping bag in my region, but anything under 30 degrees gets too cold for comfort. Typicall yes your 72hr bag should be about 20% of your overall bodyweight.
You could cut the secondary tarp for the ground. You want a barrier between you and the ground that has air in it. Use heavy duty garbage bags and fill it with leaves.
This creates air pockets between you and the ground that insults you. Just dump the leaves out when/ if you move camp and use the driest leaves you can. You can put a few in here so you have replacement and still cut a good bit of weight.
@Pat B. Check out corporals corner on youtube. He’s got some great videos on a quick deployable ridge line. He’s very in detail with the knots and once you make your ridge line, you can just store it and never have to tie the knots again (unless you want practice) with a pre made ridge line, you can set up your shelter in less than 2 minutes AND you can ditch them pesky poles. I suck with knots too and I just made my ridge line a few days ago, it was really easy. Also, unless your in a desert or farm field, you’d be able to find a stick to use as a pole.
If you go with the DAKA pouches, keep an eye out on the Primary Arms website. They frequently have them on sale.
Thanks for the tip!
Great video. I agree people really don't know what they are getting into with pack weight until they try it. I watched my wife go through this. Rather than tell her she was overpacking I just let her find out, and it was amazing how fast she learned how little she really needed. She now understands why I carry so little. But, hey! what's up with that sheath for your Mora? That thing is a work of art. Did you make it?
I picked up the sheath on Etsy. However I used to do leatherwork, lots of fun
My pack is heavy. Especially in the tool department. My philosophy is prepare for a bunch of situations and if you need to you can ditch it to save weight.
10-4 - I hear you. I do much the same. It's nice to have an assortment of options depending on the situation and then drop weight depending on the situation. If you are in a bad situation then likely someone else near you will be too that could greatly appreciate them. Having the ability to hand a family some extra blankets and tarp, knife, and a bic lighter and a steel cup / extra food that you might have would help them for a few days. Who knows, they might be able to return the favor by providing information or have friends that are 2 days walk. Generally most people are within 30 miles from home or someone they know that lives in the area.
Its impossible to carry all the things for all or most hypothetical situations. Thats why the gear set needs to be mission dependent. I used to do the same...then after time and training I reset everything. Started with the barebones basics, cutting tool, cordage, container, etc, the 5 C's. From that I then added on anything that was "nice to have". Of course time and experience training with your gear will show you what you need and what you don't.
The Survival Outpost it is impossible to carry everything for every situation. I try to carry urban and wilderness supplies. Everything thing in my kit is disposable. Training and skill does replace tools needed and doesn’t weigh anything.
@@DamionJR4923 How much does your gear weight? This is a three day loadout or longer?
The Survival Outpost 40 lbs. I know lighter is better that’s why I look at my kit as disposable. It is to help me and my family survive 3 days to a week.
2:35 AAAAY I was surprised to see Shin ramyun coming out from your bag. I'm literally eating that one in 3AM at South Korea lol
LOL cheers to that! My favorite Ramyun, love those dried veggies.
Saw back machetes cover both saw and chopper.
Agree with the tarp and hammock.
The poncho hooch is reliable in rain as well as heat,, when snow show's up care is taken to compensate for the wight of the snow,branches at anchor points may bend down, also small holes begin to appear from Spark's coming from fire,,if you find yourself in snow,a wikiups is simple and efficient for a quick shelter,this can be built using tree limbs and branches even sage brush,be conscious of the formation of water,have a fun trip!
Yup it's a win/win. The wikiup is a fun and quick build. You can also stake out the poncho to stand alone with no support
Great to learn from ultralight backpackers, but you don’t mention a sleep pad/under quilt and a sleeping bag/quilt. Are you carrying those essentials for sleeping on a hammock? If you’ve ever actually used your hammock in a real outdoor sleeping situation, you will find it gets very cold having air block underneath you!
Yes, you need an underquilt for any conditions under 50 degrees. My bug out bag is seasonal so in this video, I didn't cover my winter sleep system
On the cook set o would rather have a esbit stove and use. Wood. Eventually your propane will run out. And. I would hold on to some sort of multi tool
This gearset is designed for 72hrs in the field, no resupply. The propane easily lasts for that long. For the multitool, just the by name, it might sound like its a good idea to pack it...but I've never used mine. Ever. So it was removed. The only situation where I bring a multitool is on my warbelt.
The Grayl solves the water weight and filtration issue. Plus, removes more than just bio concerns that typical filters do
So many people commenting about the Grayl! I need to pick one up to see what the hype is all about.
One consequence of cutting back on one's bug out stuff is that the weight of one's wallet increases substantially. Of course, in many respects, this is a very good trade-off. It also has the effect of reducing the amount of gear videos on youtube. Also possibly a good thing. ;-)
Sounds like a win all for everyone except people who like to make shiny new gear videos sitting in their house talking about gear they never use
The problem with most “lightweight” items is the loss of durability (typically titanium items don’t fall in this situation). In a true survival situation are you absolutely sure you’re willing to lose item durability? Mora knives have been proven to not be so tough when used to baton wood.
Excellent point, that's why its vital to train with your gear, use it, abuse it and see what survives
@@canadafree2087 ahh yes, the schmug hiker community. The most bold and hardened of them all. I guess I’ll pack up my 20 years military experience on what does and doesn’t work in shitty situations. You hikers got this…
i've seen beckers/ka-bars being destroyed by batoning, esee's, ontarios, schrade's... knives werent made to be used for batoning. sure you can do it, but sooner or later they'll snap. axe/hatchet is best way to go. paired with good saw/folding saw( just love my outback gomoboy 240) there shouldnt be any need to baton with knife.
@@Spushed hahaha 👍
A good rule 2 follow::: ALWAYS try yer new 💡 ideas out close 2 home 🏡. .
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Good video, I like your moor realistic take on a BOB. Im glad you mentioned the Unnecessary Molle pouches.
Thanks, glad you liked it!
Random thoughts; -- Caches enroute (for food/water),-- Fleece blanket instead of woobie, -- Carry a collapsible bladder (hydrapak 4L) empty and fill when needed, -- Add a canteen cup to your ww2 canteen and dump the cookset (probably same weight but more compact) -- If you do away with your pouches, then do you need a ruck with Molle webbing (depending on weight it is, i'd switch it out)
---> Another totally random thought ... do you need a ruck? or can you use a Ribz chest pack or something else (i recently bought a Foxtrot MKII belt rig, outstanding piece of kit)
Great tips Neil, always appreciate your comments. Good point about adding the canteen cup, then don't need the cookset at, just the burner. Technically I could do without that as well and just live on MRES and snacks for a few days. Not a big deal. About the pack, I'd love to run a belt rig with a butt pouch for summer. Been considering that vs buying a Direction Action Dragon Egg. Just depends on how small I can get my shelter and sleep system.
I remember when the multitools came out and I just never got into using them on a day to day basis. That being said, I do keep one of the cheapest lightest ones I could find in my pack.
For no other reason than the pliers. After having watched one of the seasons of Alone where the girl stuck a fish hook through her hand and did not have something that would remove it.
Yes I know this is an extreme situation but so is running through the woods in a SHTF situation trying to get home. Rather have a cheap lightweight one just in case.
Great point about the pliers, I vaguely recall that episode.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost I just remember the fishhook in the hand freaked me out.
Great video on unloading weight from your big out bag. My question is do you carry extra water in your canteen ? In a SHTF do you start off with water or just start looking for it ?
I am so guilty of over packing in the past. To get over this I would go out for a 1 or 2 nighter and write down what I didnt use. After about ten different trips whatever kept popping up on the list got taken out the pack. Of course medical and medicine didnt get taken out.
That's basically the ONLY way to dial in your gear. Well done!
Yup,, take ker kit out and actually use it,, and don't forget de note pad 2 record what worked, what didn't, what U wish U had etc.
A trick to explore would be to leave some caches on your BO route to your BOL.
For example : You maybe need two or three fuel canister to reach the BOL, you leave one in the bag, the others in caches in the distances you expect to need it
This is a great plan and I can tell you from experience and testing it works great. Just don't make the mistake of burying your caches too deep...makes retrieval a real PITA.
My pack is 35-40 pounds. However I pack canned goods and at least 1 bottle of water lol. I carry my pack every time I go I'm the woods, and I typically use a lot of it when I Bushcraft and such. I carry a Sawyer mini for water.
Do you cook while your out?
@@TheSurvivalOutpost no sir, not unless it's a fresh fish on a stick lol. I eat beef stew for meals, and I carry a handful of granola and nuts and such.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost I go into the ozark national forest, far away from civilizations, typically on bluff overhangs (caves). I'm a minimilist, but My gear for a 5-7 day camp weighs around 140 pounds lol... That's when I take cookware and extra clothes....maybe even a pillow lmao.
That was pretty helpful, thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Much needed video.
Thx glad you liked it!
@@TheSurvivalOutpost most people i have seen in here pack bug out backs until they look like turtles.
I started with a 5.11 72 Rush bag. Year ago I switched to the Direct Action Dragon Egg MKII. Forced me to rethink my whole kit. I prefer wood burning so I used a lightweight woodburner that folds down flat. Works great. I did the same as you and ditched the pathfinder canteen a long time ago for a mil nalgene canteen and boil/cook with the nesting cup. My sleep system is like yours, hammock, poncho and i have a poncho liner. I keep an emergency bivi too, as its small and lightweight. I also ditched my multitool a long time ago. Its heavy and I rarely find a need for it when I go camping. Having a small capacity pack helps a lot with forcing you to use SWC(Size Weight Constraints). Iodine tablets and a good filter plus a couple bandanas is all I need for H2O. Tablets if Im in a hurry, filter I always use even with the tablets, and ill boil when I have time to.
I also combined my fire, tool and H20 kits into 1 pouch which saved me a lot of space. Cordura has a lot of weight to it so having a lot of tactical cordura pouches adds to overall weight, so I did same as you last year and started using those lightweight H20 proof zip bags.
Funny you mention the Dragon Egg, that's my next purchase for my new summer 72hr kit. Great minds think alike, obviously you've been out training with your gear, good on you.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost You can get it straight from Direct Action for the regular price. Thats where I got mine. Available on Amazon and Ebay. Ones on Ebay come directly from the manufacturer as they are made in Vietnam. DA gear is all extremely high quality though. I own a lot of their mag pouches, 2 ifaks and hoping to get their Spitfire plate carrier someday, along with another Dragon Egg for EDC/Get Home Bag.
@@rtek777 I did see a price diff between the primary website and the Amazon page...not much I think $10. The Pencott Greenzone is a PERFECT match for summer and barely any brands use that camo pattern.
The 1944 canteen is kick butt cool but I would actually suggest going with a plastic one. I have one from 1976 that is still going strong. The canteen kit I usually use is the Russian VDV aluminum kit. I love how compact it is and have carried it for years. Two things I would suggest are lanolin and Tiger Balm or even Vicks if you can use it (I can not). The lanolin is amazing for almost any skin condition and burns longer than petroleum jelly when paired with cotton balls. The Tiger Balm is an amazing topical pain reliever that I use on my feet when they are sore and also works well for colds. With the high menthol content it should also work to help repel insects. My one three season kit has been 17lbs dry for years but the pack itself is heavier than needed because I just love it.
Most of the gear is from 2GoSystems, poncho, bivy and tarp. My heavy bag runs about 30lbs but it isn't quit set up for the -45 Celcius that we have had for the last three days. If I had to leave now the kit would be just over 40lbs and likely behind me on a sled thanks to the snow. I would actually probably have closer to 60lbs total just because. Things like a full size axe are worth the weight in silver this time of year.
I have the VDV kit :) however I do like placing my canteen by the fire to heat up water....can't do that with plastic however odds of hanging out by the fire in a real SHTF hostile situation is slim. I could indeed swap out for plastic.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost you have a valid point about warming the canteen by the fire and fire is critical to life this month here. It has been below -40 Celsius for three days and is now below 30. In the short term one might be able to get away without one but I really wouldn't want to.with enough snow and other insulation you can survive, but it is not pleasant.
I just use different size Ziploc bags, sandwich, quart, 1 gal, 1-40 oz clean canteen single wall, machete an saw, 1- cookpot SS, etc, etc, poncho an woobie, an 1 reflective emergency blanket, KISS principle applys
That's all you need for survival, keep it simple...then once you cover those survival basics, THEN add on stuff that is nice to have.
You should try the seal gear dry bags to put your things. they are water proof and light weight...just try it
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If you do go the pouch route for organising small items it’s one area I saved a lot of weight - simply because I do not need 1000d cordura heavy pouches. I like to have things organised so for anything attached on the outside of my pack I’m using 500d at most (I’m not in a combat zone so that is sufficient). I have gone for ones made by T3 gear which are excellent and light weight as well as some of the Blue Force Gear as their 10 speed molle is super light.
For internal items I like to use mesh bags and 70d nylon pouches - Viper, helikon tex, one Tigris and Black Orca all make good value super light ones. In a INCH bag set up it saves pounds!
Great minds think alike it seems :) I forgot to share the weight savings but it was substantial when I replaced cordura pouches with those bags. BFG is good stuff very light weight with the laser cut molle. Gotta pay a little more but indeed you save POUNDS! Great job
I agree tgst going light is best, but sometimes cheap and sturdy is more affordable. But we can always compromise or we plan with companions to each carry particular items so you have a variety of tools and gear without one person being loaded heavily.
Being able to distribute the load would be nice. Each person dedicated to a different purpose.
Would you like the challenge I had putting together a system for an older 4'8" woman yet enough for two? For the north east! I also included a few things that can be left behind. Better to have the options especially for cold conditions. Also consider adding a good "balaclava" that is wind proof and water proof leg gaiters. You can roll tight the balaclava and wrap it in plastic wrap and the same with the gaiters to save space.
That is def a challenge especially a system designed to support two people. I agree about the balaclava and gaiters. What was your choice for backpack?
@@TheSurvivalOutpost lol Started with a 5.11 RUSH MOAB 10 Sling Pack and it only came up short when I got to the sleeping system. The 5.11 10 is perfect size for short people if adding a military pack belt through the hide away the L/R sling harness stuffs into providing great comfort even test weighing 27lb although when done it weighed in at 18 lbs, the belt carried all the weight not the sling harness. The pack Molle held a great 10 power monocular, light, First Aid, Treking Poles, stuffs pouch for a belt, Canteen cook set. When deployed many weighty things would be used by hanging onto the belt. All things not being equal plus myself having a hand deficit to accommodate the sleeping system and being small also I switched to a Kelty Yukon 48 external frame backpack I fasten to a 4 lb dolly using one hook & loop belt strap. The dolly came with a water proof bag with shoulder slings and fastens to the dolly frame. It is unlikely a 4'8 person would travel alone for long and more likely would walk paved surfaces so saving energy utilizing the 4 lb dolly is a plus or can be discarded. Also provides a seat for wet conditions. The Kelty externally holds the monocular, a Mora Knife, .5 lb hatchet and I've set up 2 Fishing Chest Packs that can be used as is, on a waist belt which they also have or fastened to the Kelty shoulder harness yet stored inside till the Kelty is utilized. Again because of all things not being equal - 1 chest pack is dedicated to the most used survival gear such as Clipper lighter, mirror, tiny jar of Vicks, Chap stick, note pad/pencil, whistle, multi tool, folding knife, poncho, hand warners, light, salt/pepper, compass, fire starters and more with external fasteners on the chest packs available to use. 2nd Chest pack is dedicated to all things camp setup as in pre cut cordages, carabiners, 2nd Clipper lighter and neck knife. Myself using pockets on one side is problematic so these Chest packs solve many problems while reducing misplacing things. While I am skilled at knot tying remember I have a hand deficit and planning for those who are not proficient. 2 Carabiners are large figure 9's and 2 are large Cam-Jams and I've made 2 - 44" tree straps with loops. Given the problems and knowing the importance of positive thinking in likely stressful situations I fell this is a good trade-off and as already stated one can select to leave things behind and repack.
Hotrod Dave here,I,d rather have a days supply of safe water from home,instead of nasty looking stuff you were drinking,liked the rest of your tips.
LOL yes that water does look terrible BUT have no fear that color is caused by decaying leaves releasing tannic acid. Filter takes care of it no problem.
I got my 3 day pack down to 24 pounds including 2 liters of water and food. I got away from all of the tactical gear, saved a ton of weight on my pack. I went with the canister stove and a titanium pot. I used smart water bottles and a sawyer filter, they screw right on. It was a 3 season setup. I probably went through my pack 5 times, getting rid of stuff. I had to change my mindset, for me it was a 3 day pack and when you look at that compared to maybe a 3 week bug out bag, you can get rid of a lot of the redundancies.
Well done! What's your choice for sleep system?
@@TheSurvivalOutpost 3 season I use a tarp and hammock with a down throw if needed thermarest 4 season pad( i forget the name, its their top pad). Winter I use the pad, military gore tex bivy and sleeping bag
I’d love a follow up on the bag instead of the pouches, I’m having that debate with myself too, I’d like to know your thoughts on how much your should be waterproofing your kit
The bag is mil issue and treated with water resistance coating...but as an added layer I also use a rain cover.
To cut weight the most important thing to take out is water. Then take out any shelter you might have or heavy knives. You want the smallest micro backpack as possible.typically on average in every bug out situation that has ever been recorded worldwide you will have to walk at least 182.5. you also on average have to defend yourself 82 times. so make sure when you're traveling to look like a gray man but still conceal an AR-15 plate carrier. The best green man footwear for battle and travel are flip flops.
Yup that water is a big variable. I've cut back on what I carry...but like I said it depends on the situation and area. Most people couldn't walk 5 miles much less nearly 200 miles. Gotta cut the weight down. Can I ask where you got those numbers from?
I’m raising the bullshit flag on this one. Where are you getting your stats? When Katrina smashes into Biloxi myself and a few other SeaBees took our bugout bags threw them in our truck and drive 25 miles to a buddies farm where we stayed for nearly six months. We were never forced to defend ourselves. Anyone who was in the Gulf coast knows how bad it was. No water, no electricity, no law (the jail was wiped out. All you heard was shooting at night. People killed people for the gas in their cars. Bugout bags are not meant for running around all tacticool. Point A to point B is your goal period.
@James Reich Absolutely agree!!! My comment was sarcasm. Walk like you mean business. Gray man invites trouble. Hard man deturrs it. How much does survival weigh? As much as it needs too! Ha! I'd rather be a moron and have it than a genius and need it. My motto start with everything and discard per scenario.
100% agree to the tools... That's without a doubt, where my most unnecessary weight resides.
You should have seen the amount of tools I had in my first build, you'd think I was opening up an Ace Hardware store ;)
@@TheSurvivalOutpost I carried a hand auger and tennon cutter for building bushcraft tools for years... Lol, worked great. Just unnecessarily heavy.
@@tomjjackson21 I hear ya...done the same thing with tools...in the future would be great to have a dedicated survival retreat where all this stuff could be stored or cached
This is sound advice. I've done pretty much the same thing.
Good deal!
There are several "rule of 3's". When it comes to backpacks it's "3 things to do every job and everything does 3 jobs". That's not always possible but if you fallow it as much as possible it will really cut your pack weight down. A knife is an easy example, you can dress game, build a shelter and defend your life with it and so much more. A cook pot: you can cook in it, boil water in it and drink out of it. the old military poncho: you can wear it as a poncho, use it for shelter and carry water in it. The list goes on for all of these items but you get the point. If you stick to this rule as much as you can and pick pack items that will do 3 thing you will save a lot of pack weight.
Items in your pack will vary depending on it's purpose. Is it a patrol pack, BOB, get home bag or I.N.C.H. bag? The core items will be the same because human needs are the same no matter the mission at hand: food, water, shelter are needs. Comfort however is relative. If it's an I.N.C.H. bag comfort is going to matter a lot because your going to be carrying it for an unknown amount of time and a fighting load may not be the biggest concern. A patrol pack on the other hand: comfort while still somewhat important is going to take a back seat to fighting load and you will need food that you don't have to cook or heat.
These are my choices, you have to make your own. I use a GOOD cable saw in stead of a hatchet or folding saw. mostly because of weight. I carry a poncho/shelter half instead of a tent or a tarp. A sleeping bag with a water proof shell, no sleeping pad or ground cover. I wrap dental floss around the handle of my tooth brush, no need to carry the whole roll. A pill bottle of baking soda is very useful and is very light. No need to carry a whole roll of tape: duct tape wrapped around a strap is accessible and lite. A half used roll of electrical tape can be tied on MOLLI with a small loop of para-cord.
The one thing I want to stress the most is "don't make a pack mule out of your self".
I'm not trying to be mean but you said "If I remember correctly" that your pack in this video is 70 or 75 Lb's. and you don't have a weapon, mags or ammo with it. Those things will be another 30 Lb's. and that's going to bring you to 100 to 105 Lb's. Most people are not going to be able to carry that far especially over hilly or rough Terrain.
I've recently gone back to a tent for my GHB; the new ultralight 2 person ones are super light and reasonably priced. because 95% of the time in the car with wife or other person; and most of the time >3 days away so having a place for getting changed ; do medical etc and well; I'm from australia so spiders :) I do plan to ditch it and just use my poncho and woobie if just me but for "non bugout" emergences; can much easier setup tent and sleep that near car than go full survivalist.
You seem to find interesting places to camp out. Another thought provoking video. Every time you drink muddy water I cringe for a second :)
Always exploring new places. And yeah that water looks awful, its actually has a name "Black Water". It gets that color from dead vegetation that releases tannic acid. But it filters clean and tastes great :)
@@TheSurvivalOutpost what's that old song about drinkn muddy water & sleep in a hollow log ??
As much as I’d like to reduce weight... I won’t sacrifice an item for another unless it’s just as durable. Quality is very important. I’ve broken lots of things by its intended use alone. If the lighter item is on par or superior then of course I’ll take it.
“I never use this”..... well you haven’t had to yet.... but I promise a time would come in a worst case scenario where you’d absolutely welcome it.
Find items that can serve more than one purpose. Sometimes the “2 is 1” saying is super important and other times it’s not.
And of course all of this depends on location. I live in the middle of the desert so I HAVE to carry water. No way around it.
Yup 100% agree. I don't ever sacrifice durability, quality does matter and tools that serve more than one purpose are very important. Like you said location matters so you gotta carry extra water especially in the spring/summer season I imagine.
Maybe someone who lives in the PNW would carry more items related to firestarting due to the wet climate vs me here in Florida where tinder is typically very dry and abundant.
Most people need to realize: bug out bags are for 72 hours. Not a week. Not a month. Not 5 damn decades. Just 3 days. Don't stuff your damn house in a bag. Bare essentials, focused on bushcraft or urban necessities, are enough.
Exactly! Stop trying to fit everything in the bag lol
Nice video! Thanks for the tips.
Thanks, glad you liked it
What a awsome video man lots of great points! Pathfinder has a titanium version of that set now:)
Thanks glad you liked it! Appreciate the heads up about the Pathfinde Ti version
@@TheSurvivalOutpost forsure man I just watched Daves Canterburys video about it. It just came out today
If you like camping, just go camping. You don't need a bug out bag or survival this and SHTF that. Go camping. Have a beer in the woods. It's perfectly OK.
Beer is good
@@KiwiBushcraftAndSurvival dude, that's a whole lot of words I'm not going to read. Maybe you need to have a beer too.
I'd rather be prepared than not , you have no idea how many times I've used things out my bag an had to restock it
Better to compress a larger pack because you can never scale up with a small one. I use a medium ALICE with a spray painted sustainment pouch on each side.
Yes excellent point, can't scale up from a tiny to big. Have you upgraded your ALICE pack shoulder harness and hip belt? If not Tactical Tailor has some good options.
So munch to learn thancks for the feed back
First comment! Thanks Ramon
i have almost 2 of everything cell phone GPS all have wires but i have a flashlight that is solar and can recharge i also have usb charging batteries just saying
do you need to carry that much redundancy?
You definitely can save weight by switching out from a Military 500 or 750 D enier cordura pack to a lighter material pack, Ultramarathon or Trail running type pack.
Also anything without Molle saves weight as its just several Lbs of thick webbing sewn to the outside of your pack you have to carry for very little gain. If you really really need to use Molle you can hand stitch on gutted 550 cord or go for a laser cut option.
I like the laser cut option, I'll probably always stick with mil spec bags, but I'd be open to trying out an ultralight pack.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost My go to INCH bag is the Marine ILBE pack system, but for a Bob or get out of dodge situation I like to focus on covering distance so a lighter weight hiking bag suits me fine, If you go for a decent brand quality isn't too much of an issue. I use a Fjallraven Abisko.
I reduced the weight of mine by changing to a lightweight tent, (mosquitos will eat your alive at night in summer where I live if you sleep with a tarp, hard lesson learned there) also I dropped some tools, changed my cook kit as well and went from a sleeping bag to a fleece blanket.
Nice work, basically the same changes I've made.
I’m in Louisiana, yeah we have mosquitoes....I use tarp but also have a Friendly Swede mosquito net
@@bayoustateoutdoors9650 I'm in Louisiana also.
My big thing has been trying to find a solid sleeping bag or arraignment for my area- gets up to about 70 degrees in the day but can get down to 20 at night- any advice for sleeping gear in climates with variable weather?
I'll have a video coming out soon on my ultralight sleep system that might help get you started in the right direction. I'm running a SOL bivy sack, fleece blanket, heavy thermal underwear, wool gloves, balaclava and I'm good to go down to about 30 degrees....and yeah I also added a sleeping bag liner which raises the temps about 10 degrees. Still packs lighter and smaller than sleeping bag.
I've never seen a river of sweet tea before
LOL its heavenly eh?
*BALANCED APPROACH:*
*Of course we should move as light weight as possible. Even for a healthy young strong person, total weight should not exceed 20% of body weight. Less is better. But ultimately a "bug-out-bag" should be designed with the idea that you are NOT returning. With all that said, your original comment **_"Can I live with out it?"_** can be balanced remembering **_"it's better to have it & not need it, than to need it & not have it."_*
The 72hr kit is dependent on the situation in terms of gear carried. I don't believe its accurate to say the BOB is designed w/ the idea of not returning. There may be a hurricane that requires me to get my three day kit, but I very well (hopefully) return back home. Or lets say the situation is civil unrest in your area and you have no estimate at all on returning when or if and if you do, your home may be gone.
In that case you may pack a kit for longer duration without resupply. Balance is everything like you say, if I'm carrying a tool that can reasonably left behind because another tool can be improvised or used in its place then I leave that item.
Also the gear is mission dependent so my gear set for evac during a dangerous situation of no rule of law will be different than a kit designed to deal with a natural disaster that most likely doesn't entail major human threats.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost *Nice. I appreciate your thought on improvising a tool or piece of equipment. You & I know ultimately "the more you know the less you need". Seeing as my wife & I've been participating (on average twice a year) in survival hikes & "prepping" since the 1990s before prepping was cool we personally can survive 'Naked & Unafraid' now! Hahaha! But just because I can doesn't mean I'd want to. Lol!*
*So my mindset has evolved over the years to take action the first time for a worst case scenario so that my muscle memory, economy of movement, & decision making is simplified. For a well prepared & experienced person like yourself, knowing when to grab a 72 kit vs a completed BOB is a cinch. Personally I have lived my whole life on the Texas coast so I appreciate your example of hurricanes. But most (not all) people won't have a clue & dare I say, even many Preppers may struggle with poor judgment & argumentive family members. So all things being equal, it's simpler to train a person to get really proficient handling just one gun/pack/etc rather than multiple choices that may require a judgment they may be ill prepared to make.*
*With all that said, I apologize if came across contradictory. I was attempting to harmonize with your message. But I recognize you were most likely speaking to experienced Preppers & not necessarily newbies, so I apologize for any misunderstanding. It is in my nature to tailor my comments for newbies & that is why I agreed with your video. Everyone needs to be reminded to scale back on weight where they can. A perfect example in your video was dropping the tent in exchange for a tarp! BRILLIANT! I was so excited to see that because we stopped using tarps 11 years ago (all seasons; I probably could have gone without a tent near 15 years ago but it took 4yrs to convince my wife. Ha!).*
*So I guess we can truly say, weight can continue to be dropped the more we know. Hmm. I like that. I think I'll amend that well known "Prepperism" (Prepper Wisdom/Saying):*
*"The more you know the lighter your load."*
*Now that may incentivise more people to enhance their preparedness education for the reward of a lighter load because sadly the word "less" may not translate in the mind of many to "lighter". Good.*
*Liberty = Peace & I pray you & yours always enjoy both, brother.*
What pack is that towards the end?
Direct Action Dragon Egg
Good stuff!
Thanks Corsair!
Canteens are antiquated
How so?
Great choices 👍
Thanks Tom
The laugh thing scares me. I was definitely not expecting it
mission accomplished :)
Thank you.
Thanks for watching J
Military food and purification tablets life straw
Might wanna switch to the Sawyer Mini which can be used as straw OR attached to a container
Buddy holly cow that water is dark . You have been testing the filter badder how is it doing ?
Yeah looks like piss tbh...but its actually called Black Water, its that color from tannic acid released from decaying vegetation that falls into the river. That Katadyn is the BEST. I'm using it all the damn time now.
The Survival Outpost that will be my next purchase or company to go after . I am on it
Whar the name of the bag out bag?
FILBE Assault Pack by Eagle Industries
Really appreciate your input on lightweight gear and looking to the ultralight community for ideas.
Hey y'all dont forget his Patreon site is now up and im finding that to be one of the best out there. ~Peter
Hey thanks for watching Peter, glad you liked it...and thanks for the Patreon promo :)
Where did you get the sheath for your Mora? I've been looking for something like that for my Garberg.
Checkout Leonard Leatherworks on Etsy -> www.etsy.com/shop/LeonardLeatherWorks
Nice kit
Thanks 👍
Here in Puerto Rico the weather is 365/y tropical. We made huge changes to the structure for BoB/Survival Bags and Long term survival bags with better organization.
We have a 3 day BoB that weights just 15 pounds with everything. The best of ultralight and the best of everything still there are some items that can be replaced to save a few ounces but are way to expensive and dont last as much due to the material made for ultralight.
We have a FB page(content mostly in spanish) facebook.com/survivalpreppr
Thanks for sharing your FB link. Great example of customizing your gear for the environment. Do you get a lot of rain in your area?
@@TheSurvivalOutpost Yes, it rains but its not always raining like some places. Its a mix of high temperatures and rains, there's dry season in spring, summer is a mix of sun(temperatures between 95 to 105) and a lot of rain since we start the Hurricane Season until fall. It is beautiful out here, you should visit someday, since its a US Territory you don't need a passport to travel. After COVID-19 is done if you plan something out for PR we can collab a 3 day or 5 day survival trip, if anything contact me via the FB page!
I hear different channels that say , you bag should weight 20% or 30% etc...of your body weight..
what is the formula for this, with bugout bags.??
Typical rule is 20% for the 72hr gear and 30% for the long range bag AKA Inch Bag.
That 1944 canteen is probably made from aluminum. Not Stainless steel.
Its stainless steel.
Wait your trying to get under 20 lb for your 72 hour bag? I made one for 2 weeks that was under 20 and that had a box of ammo in it. That was my first try.
Granted that was for getting the hell out of dodge when people are trying to kill you and you can’t risk a fire. Still had flint and steal but it would have taken me very good conditions to get a fire going with that little thing.
Sub 20lbs is only really feasible during summer I have found...and really it just depends on how bad you prefer life to suck. More gear makes life bearable, less gear = more suck.
GET A DONKEY OR ALPACA THAT CAN CARRY TWO 100 POUND BAGS FOR YOU !
PLUS THEY CAN BE FOOD IN A PINCH LOL
LOL good idea
great backpack , where can I get it?
Thats the FILBE Assault Pack: amzn.to/2uewBeg
Remember to test your Bug Out Bag regularly (hike with it, shoot with it, run with it), and rotate the supplies regularly (fresh water / food, medical, fuel).
Yes absolutely...if your gear is collecting dust, all nice, shiny and clean, then you're doing it wrong.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost Couldn't have said it better myself, also gotta make sure you are in shape to carry all your awesome gear.
@@gruntgearreview6490 Yup absolutely gotta be in shape. I follow a hybrid powerlifting regime combined with boxing to give me an excellent combo of strength + conditioning...also its fun to punch people in the face.
@@TheSurvivalOutpost thats good stuff. I've found a balance of weight lifting and cardio works pretty well for me. Not enough lifting and you can't lift your pack, not enough running and you can't move with it.
Jesus, where the hell do you live. That river water looks like my first morning piss. The nastiest water sources I’ve seen in my home state of Idaho are still clear haha good video, I enjoyed it fully.
LOL I cannot tell you how many people have commented on the water. Its quite good actually, the color is from leaves releasing tanic acid in the water. Idaho though...man I'd love to explore that state some
@@TheSurvivalOutpost yeah I love Idaho, northern anyway. Tannic Acid from leaves, makes sense. Ok now instead of pee, I’ll think of some back woods tea when I see that water haha
The bug out might be permanent, that said better have what you need to survive the long term.
Yep it could be for good so if one is serious, look at your gear and ask yourself...if I'm never coming back home, what exactly am I willing to leave behind?
If I could cut weight in my pack and sleeping system I would be happy, it’s All military surplus gear
The best way to find what you keep, what you remove is to get to the field for an overnight trip. Apart from that you're just guessing. The sleep system is a big item taking up space and weight. Luckily when summer hits I ditch the sleeping bag...
@@TheSurvivalOutpost I usually ditch the sleeping bag but I keep the Gortex bivy sack, and stuff sack.
Never ditch a good warm sleep system,, i did 1 time, and froze 2 death.. Needless 2 say i will never do dat again.. My funeral was in 2oo6 RIP 💀
Tom Catt Great point
What bag is this???
That is my used and abused USMC Issue FILBE Assault Pack
Look I to the weight of your pack when it’s empty. Lots of savings their
Yes for sure, I'm going to lose two lbs just by switching to my summer 72hr bag.
At survival situation is very important to have sturdy backpack, u can get away with light and soft tarp, tent , inner clothing , sleeping system etc becuz while u moving its inside of a pack. But everything that is outside like backpack and outer clothing needs to be sturdy and durable. I lightened all my inside gear but keep durable backpack , pants and jacket.
Water, a big issue. I live in the desert and carrying enough water to get to the next source is vital...Sooooo.. I would like to introduce a novel idea, that noone is talking about:
Dehydrated water!!! Just add water and BOOM!! INSTANT HYDRATION!
Still working out some kinks ... you know manufacturing issues and stuff...
You might wanna team up with the guy selling canned air 😂
Majority of weight in my bag is food.
What type of food do you carry?
@@TheSurvivalOutpost 5 reduced sodium mers, a few things some reduced sodium spam and tuna packs with crackers, PB, and some cliff bars. I also have two cans of corned beef and hash. I have a high metabolism and and on the lower weight scale so I have to compensate for that. But I can stretch things out since I know my limits. I hiked the AZ mountains and ate half a Mre at the top and was filled. Water I have two 32 Oz water bottles since you burn through that more than food. My Alice pack is 26 pounds. With a cold weather sleeping bag and shelter set up. But my hot weather stuff is on a web gear line up. It suits my needs.
Don't forget hard candy, i get big bags if individual wrapped lifesavers, and de orange flavor, tried other types,jolly rancher, butterscotch etc but they turn soft and R A gooey mess 2 unwrap.🍬
My bug out bag weighs zero pounds and zero ounces.
WIN!
I agree with looking into backpackers. Ive done a video very silimar to this after a trip. Now why keep the metal canteen and canteen cup. I see you use your filter to tabs for most water. So you never boil water in it. You have the backpacker stove for cooking. Seems like two heavy peices of gear you never use.
Exactly, that's why I swapped the Pathfinder canteen & cup for that smaller WW2 issue canteen / no cup. I like to have filled up with water so if I want to cook something such as the Raymen, I have clean water, not boiled yellow water
@@TheSurvivalOutpost hikers use basic water bottles light weight and does the same. You can also get a 2 or 3 l cnoc bag for your katadyn filter. So if you couldnt filter your water in that location you could grab it and filter it later
use gal. ziplock bags instead of daka... lighter and cheaper..
Yup lighter and cheaper agreed
NO ! . . . . You never remove your winter gear . BECAUSE ! If a S. H. T. F. really happens . You may not have time to get the winter gear ready & have to redo your pack . Must be ready to go . For year round . at all times ! ( Must be ready to go in a minute . At the spur of the moment . ) Be ready to leave everything & everybody if necessary in one minute .
If you only have one bag then yes it has to be all season and will be larger no matter what. I have two bags, one for spring/summer and one for fall/winter.
What is the bag you have your poncho and hammock in? I would love to pick one up!
That waist pouch has been a lifesaver, so useful. SDS Molle butt pouch, heres a link:
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i wish i had $2.00 for everytime i downsized my kits,, then ended up putting more back in em, LOL..
sometimes its like that lol
I'm not a bitch so I'll deal with the weight training. More reliable.
That's right, lift heavy shit, put it back down again. Repeat. Get Strong. Repeat.
6:20 Nigga I ain't drinking that bullshit.
looks like piss I know..but that's actually just tannic acid released from decaying vegetation in the water.
I'll stick to my awesome WISPORT REINDEER HUNT 55L RUCKSACK
and carry the gear i am comfortable and need, cause shit if you think a SHTF scenario would only take 3 days bugging out? it'll be too late get the things you guys left at home. And when reality hits you in the face when you gotta face reality and you're gonna start sobbing like on those survival shows, uncomfortable and sick and tired.
A disaster can take weeks to months
Societal collapse, we got the government attacking their citizens because of their skin colors and pushing socialist ideologies.
You got them attacking white people saying they are evil and that everything wrong that happens is their fault and are indoctrinating our children to believe that.
Knowledge weights nothing. Learn to survive without ANY metal tools. Cordage is easy to make, while still on the move, a stone ax is just as easy to make, cuts only little slower then a heavy steel ax.
Some of that knowledge is regional. You're not making a stone ax in south Florida.
@@billrichbourg548 Could, just harder. Have to know where to find usable rock. But i agree with your point, some places a tool already to go is worth the weight.
Tools are mission dependent. If your goal is to live off the land in a peacetime setting then sure go for it, go all primitive stone age. But if your goal is survival and escape from hostile forces then tools are must.
Sporks.
Yep sporks...leave em or keep em?
@@TheSurvivalOutpost If it decreases weight then it's a keep.
wow that river water looks like piss. i would double filter it before drinking.
That color is caused by tannic acid released by decaying leaves and such that falls into the river
@@TheSurvivalOutpost Neat. you learn something new everyday. but i seriously thought sewage just drained right into that part of the river. Thanks for the Info.
@@chrisspray666 Reasonable lol...cause that water looks like piss or something even worse. Great test for that Katadyn filter, comes out tasting great and 100% clear
Unless someone pick you off with there 3030
Never know...