Amazing update UI wise, much beter use of the screen 👏 In Engine 4.1 i’d love to see a “Countdown of bars to the next cue” this seems like a minor but valuable workflow tweak, currently OS gear starts counting bars after passing a cue point 🤷🏻♂️happy to see it already received 80 votes on the feature request forum though
Denon keeps reinforcing my decision to switch to Denon. I have been loving my SC5000 decks and x1800 mixer...and the updates just keep making them better👍
I've been wanting the SC5000s ever since they came out! Was thinking about purchasing them this weekend since some are back in stock, which I was stoked about! I know the SC6000s are their newest ones, but I was wondering if I should still go for my dream setup with the SC5000s even though I fear they might not have any more support for it soon hardware-wise
@@PRiMESTyLE_BEATS I love mine, Im thinking about adding a third! IIRC they have the same internals as the SC6000's so I dont think they'll be obsolete anytime soon. Seriously...you can get them on the used market for around 600 bucks, Thats what I did...and have no complaints at all!
@JeremiahHartmanPhotography Seriously, that's amazing to hear!! I highly appreciate you providing your insights, I'm sold! Just finished finalizing the order for a pair of SC5000s along with the X1850 Mixer! This is a massive upgrade coming from my MCX8000
@@PRiMESTyLE_BEATSI play on just one sc5000m unit. It's been 6 years and I've had no issues. However on my x1850 mixer 2 linefaders are already broken after just 11 months of use.
industry standard is crap, Denon will be the new industry standard in a few years, as everyone I know is swapping over to the Denon. Pioneer have not brought out any innovative gear in years!! Even the new CDJ300o is a joke compared to Denon gear
Been part of the beta testing on this and the back and forth from the denon team has been nothing short of incredible, they really have worked so hard on this!
The Denon Prime Go is still a solid little controller. This update makes it feel new again. The library search with waveforms helps find the next track when love mixing. Way to go Denon!
I am ALLLL About Engine DJ , coming from a new user of a Numark Mixstream Pro Go. I made the transition from Pioneer gear from this and could not be more happy!
I love having the performance library on the same screen. I also feel like my streaming apps are loading much faster. Another great improvement Denon. Def reinforced my decision to switch to Denon! Well done!
It's great that Denon keep these updates fairly often, this makes the hardware feeling new and fresh over time. An improved grid analizer and being able to rate a song within the hardware its something that i would like to see in a future update, and of course, stems. I've been using the sc live 4 for a year now and i couldn't be happier!
Funny how you're review is much better than the official engineDJ review 😂 love the no background music and the pace of the demonstration. Good job mate 👍
A solid update for sure! Was a bit deflated to discover that there is still no beat jump facility for my Mixstream Pro Go. That's all I want!!! Just a rudimentary parameters option in settings would be fine so I can use the pitch bend buttons to action. Ah, a man can dream! Oh and RBG waveforms would also be nice. :)
@@JoDubu409 I've mentioned it in the general forum section for standalone controllers (quite the response from both sides of the argument, too!), but not the feature request section. I have now posted there as well (message is pending approval).
I love that we can now see the effect parameters on the main screen! The tiny LCD screens under the knobs are unobtrusive but it's more comfortable seeing them on the big bright main panel.
I’ve seen 4 channel controller users saying it’s handy for when you’ve had a track in deck 3 or 4 so it’s not just sat there redundant on the deck until you use it again
Hi. Do you have a starter video for someone who has never used software like this before. My music collection is on a hard drive split into folders 70's 80's 90's etc which I used to use with Numarks DDS player....... and I dont understand how to get that music into this program within its genre folders to play on at Denon Prime DJ go which I have ordered. Can you help or point me to an idiots guide video please?
We do not have a video guide to Engine. Engine does not use folders, it uses playlists. Some users create playlists in Engine DJ that mirror their folder structure on external drives.
I have been having an issue of going from playlist to playlist experience a significant amount of time updating to see the next playlist. Detroit DJ Dev
hi i think we was all hopeing for Bluetooth head phones / speakers output as we got bluetooth input on the last update hopefully we can get this very soon 👍 by the way keep up the good work mate 100% A ⭐⭐⭐⭐
I’m have a Denon prime 4 did the update and now I lost the use of my cue pads, Loop, Roll and Slicer which I use and now I am not able too seems like every time I down load update I loose something is just up setting can you assist me with this issue
Anyone else notice anything wacky going on with thier tracks? A couple of mine are playing a small section of the track despite showing the true track length. Might need to reanalyze or something.
Is there a Tidal/Beatport BPM/KEY sort feature in the new update or do you still have to struggle like before? It would be great if you could analyze all songs in one of your playlists 🙂
Super update, i only mis the, decimal seconds behind time remaining, there gone.only full seconds remaining now.. Is it possible to see waveform from other player? Or only layer a and b? Play 2 sc 6000 m .
Where can we find the sampler? How can we access it on a SC6000? --- Cracked the case - My sampler wasn't loaded yet - It was empty - just had to pick a couple of fine samples. Now it works fine.
I want a “one knob” mode, where it takes all of these new features, bypasses them, and the decks run at their fastest and highest CPU performance , allowing access to minimal features. Like black and white mode on a cell phone to reserve power.
Super update, i only mis the, decimal seconds behind time remaining, there gone.only full seconds remaining now.. Is it possible to see waveform from other player? Or only layer a and b?
I just found a feature you missed - I think :) You couldn't hear mixer FX in your headphones in 3.x. They're now back so you can hear your filter/echo/noise/wash in the headphones! YAY!
Still I can't create playlist from a folder without a computer. That's hard to program it in? Also ability to change track names and arrange the tracks based on energy levels from 'Mixed in Key' software?
I know, but I've asked them to program it in....if it's meant to be the real STAND alone aka 'no computer needed'. Perhaps if more of customers request it, they may consider putting it into the next firmware update... Worth a try imho.
Awesome update. But please add in the Stems feature, please hook up with Virtual DJ to use their program. Also, please fix echo in FX. The only way to shut it off is the change the FX type, which just sounds like a horrible cut off instead if fading out.
Not a Denon guy but this blows Rekordbox out the water.
I love how engine stay on top of the updates and making Dj'ng in2oftive and fun....HATS OFF TO DENON and the developers who make this happen
We do know they've worked very hard on it.
For real
Amazing update UI wise, much beter use of the screen 👏 In Engine 4.1 i’d love to see a “Countdown of bars to the next cue” this seems like a minor but valuable workflow tweak, currently OS gear starts counting bars after passing a cue point 🤷🏻♂️happy to see it already received 80 votes on the feature request forum though
Great idea!
I use that feature in Rekordbox. It's useful for sure
Still no Traktor neither RGB waveforms, but congrats to Engine OS team that keeps bringing valuable updates to Denon and Numark machines.
That's been a feature request on the community for at least 2 years :D I'd also love to see it.
@@slashwhatever Traktor support is the most wanted feature I think.
Denon keeps reinforcing my decision to switch to Denon. I have been loving my SC5000 decks and x1800 mixer...and the updates just keep making them better👍
Great to hear!
I've been wanting the SC5000s ever since they came out! Was thinking about purchasing them this weekend since some are back in stock, which I was stoked about! I know the SC6000s are their newest ones, but I was wondering if I should still go for my dream setup with the SC5000s even though I fear they might not have any more support for it soon hardware-wise
@@PRiMESTyLE_BEATS I love mine, Im thinking about adding a third! IIRC they have the same internals as the SC6000's so I dont think they'll be obsolete anytime soon. Seriously...you can get them on the used market for around 600 bucks, Thats what I did...and have no complaints at all!
@JeremiahHartmanPhotography Seriously, that's amazing to hear!! I highly appreciate you providing your insights, I'm sold! Just finished finalizing the order for a pair of SC5000s along with the X1850 Mixer! This is a massive upgrade coming from my MCX8000
@@PRiMESTyLE_BEATSI play on just one sc5000m unit. It's been 6 years and I've had no issues.
However on my x1850 mixer 2 linefaders are already broken after just 11 months of use.
Denon looks great - come on - become industry standard. :D
industry standard is crap, Denon will be the new industry standard in a few years, as everyone I know is swapping over to the Denon. Pioneer have not brought out any innovative gear in years!! Even the new CDJ300o is a joke compared to Denon gear
Finally individual searching.
Waiting this for years
Yeah, this will please a lot of people I suspect
Been part of the beta testing on this and the back and forth from the denon team has been nothing short of incredible, they really have worked so hard on this!
Yes, we sensed that too Kevin.
LETS GOOOOO !!! DENON = COMMUNITY
The Denon Prime Go is still a solid little controller. This update makes it feel new again. The library search with waveforms helps find the next track when love mixing. Way to go Denon!
Agreed, one of my personal favourites
Did the Bluetooth finally get the send option?
The Eject song is the best!!
Weirdly, YES! 🤣
What exactly does it do?
@@anthonyirving6728 removes the waveform from the screen so nothing is loaded in.
@@anthonyirving6728 You can clean your channels from the tracks that you are not using. Gives you way more clarity of what's going on.
Real talk!
So helpful when players are linked and the usb fails!
I am ALLLL About Engine DJ , coming from a new user of a Numark Mixstream Pro Go. I made the transition from Pioneer gear from this and could not be more happy!
Glad to hear you’re happy!
I love the ease of use of the Pro go and not using a laptop is one less headache! lol
@@djjoesmoothfoster Right! Also gives me more access to my DJ ing skills.
Tysm for this confirmation. I've been wanting to toss my Pioneer DDJ out the window forever, & now I can with a Numark!!
Phil once again AMAZING & DAM fast review put out =!!! Great info my friend & keep up the gr8 work!!!
Nice update. I've been begging for beat jump on the mixstream series. Seems like an easy ask but to no avail
Yeah would be good!
shift-turn loop encoder kinda does it...
@@digitaldjtipsMakes Rekord box look like a Dinosaur
Just updated my Mixstream Pro Go and it's actually running a lot smoother. Great update and I can feel the change in performance.
Yeah mine too. Denon is so dope with the updates! Now if only we could get Pioneer to update the S11, I'd be a happy camper!
I skipped the RX3 and this thing is looking very appealling. I'm almost sure I'll be getting a Prime 4+
I did that and sooo happy i made the decision of leaving pioneer ❤
I love having the performance library on the same screen. I also feel like my streaming apps are loading much faster. Another great improvement Denon. Def reinforced my decision to switch to Denon! Well done!
Performance library is the truth truth
WHEN STABLE STEM SEPERATION ITS BEEN AGES THATS WHY I BOUGHT THAT UNIT MAN :(
guess i'll switch to macbook with serato on it
Sounds like the best idea for now
The beat detection in Engine OS is sadly awful. 😢
It's getting better
Prime 4 plus stems would be a great upgrade as that's why I bought it
No sign of stems
ID LIKE TO SEE STEMS ON THE NUMARK MIXSTREAM PRO WAITING ON THAT
Nice update and like the screen look, however Is there any news on Stems, mainly improvements or moving from beta to public ?
No, no news
Great update, hopefully Denon is getting on with stems
We shall see…
24h clock!!! FINALLY AFTER 4 YEARS
..as announced here at 21:00hrs CEST 🇪🇺🤣
@@digitaldjtips😂😂. Good one Sir
Just got my Mixstream Pro Go last night.
Perfect timing!
Now if only there’s a chance they could add Stems for it 😅
For stems you need much more Processing Power . You must Go to Prime 4+ If you want stems on a standalone Controller
We don't think they will
It's great that Denon keep these updates fairly often, this makes the hardware feeling new and fresh over time. An improved grid analizer and being able to rate a song within the hardware its something that i would like to see in a future update, and of course, stems. I've been using the sc live 4 for a year now and i couldn't be happier!
These are good asks
Funny how you're review is much better than the official engineDJ review 😂 love the no background music and the pace of the demonstration. Good job mate 👍
Glad you liked it!
A solid update for sure! Was a bit deflated to discover that there is still no beat jump facility for my Mixstream Pro Go. That's all I want!!! Just a rudimentary parameters option in settings would be fine so I can use the pitch bend buttons to action. Ah, a man can dream! Oh and RBG waveforms would also be nice. :)
Don't see why they can't add this for all units, could be easy enough to do onscreen.
have you mentioned that in the official forum? you can add things that you want and people vote for them, if you get enough votes, its added
@@JoDubu409 I've mentioned it in the general forum section for standalone controllers (quite the response from both sides of the argument, too!), but not the feature request section. I have now posted there as well (message is pending approval).
@@ThePhoenixTail good luck with getting it added ... fingers crossed its on 4.1 🙂
How do you enable trainspotter mode
Thanks, Phil!
EngineDJ. We need this!!!😁😁😁
Cool to see some upgrades. Looking forward to Future updates and added features. Denon is my favorite.=since day one for me.
Have fun!
Numark mix stream pro go?
Anybody prime 4+ with algorithm pro?
So they just gave up on stems huh. Lovely
They haven't said that
Just my first SC6000M and I love it.
That few things I would like to see add would be :
MIDI implementation
Scratch Banks
And DVS/ Phase HID support
Thanks for sharing your wishlist!
Another awesome update. Thanks Phil. Updating my SC6000'S shortly 🙌
Nice 👍 let us know about the stacked waveforms
Stems for mixstream pro and pro go please!!!!
We don;t think this is coming unfortunately
Does this update have bluetooth output so you can connect bluetooth speakers?
I love that we can now see the effect parameters on the main screen! The tiny LCD screens under the knobs are unobtrusive but it's more comfortable seeing them on the big bright main panel.
Yeah i saw that but didn't find how to enable it
Yes that looks cool
I had on the screen for one day now disappeared. How to enable?
on the Prime 4 it was never supposed to be on the main screen, it was a glitch why you saw it for a moment, check the enginedj forum.
@@capturethemoment9806 Did you found out how? Still looking for it.
and auto sync that they have in VDJ would be amazing
I'm like yourself Phil. That eject button. Long overdue. I guess it's an old man Dj's thing? 😄
I’ve seen 4 channel controller users saying it’s handy for when you’ve had a track in deck 3 or 4 so it’s not just sat there redundant on the deck until you use it again
That makes sense, it just feels like basic functionality
The key sync option being on the screen is huge for Numark users. There wasn't a way to key sync on the mixstream prior to this update.
No, it is a massive change agreed
i saw that! Is it better to leave it on or off? I don't use the sync so mines is off.
Hi. Do you have a starter video for someone who has never used software like this before. My music collection is on a hard drive split into folders 70's 80's 90's etc which I used to use with Numarks DDS player....... and I dont understand how to get that music into this program within its genre folders to play on at Denon Prime DJ go which I have ordered. Can you help or point me to an idiots guide video please?
We do not have a video guide to Engine. Engine does not use folders, it uses playlists. Some users create playlists in Engine DJ that mirror their folder structure on external drives.
I just want RGB waveform that's it!
Right? Me too. It’s the only thing that’s missing. ❤
@@razvanion7 This has been ask for years, and always ignored.
What headphones are that? Grazie!
Still waiting on them allowing two cues through the headphone. It auto disable the other track in the headphone when you select the next channel.
you can have two tracks cued in the headphones,
@@JoDubu409 Are you referring to the Cue Master?
@@DeanBrown cue and split cue
I have the Denon prime 4 plus with engine dj 4.0 and don't have the stem in controller, how can i get the full stem and not beta on my prime 4 plus?
They never took this feature out of beta unfortunately
I love mine. midstream pro go. thx for the info
Need stems for all dj denon units. That should be on the next update
very unlikely - it takes too much processor power (that's my guess)
@@digitaldjtipspreprocessing on engine desktop would be fine until better hardware is released. I don't use streaming services anyway.
Love it. It's missing one thing I been wanting for years. Changing the colour of the waveforms.
Here’s hoping
@@digitaldjtips 😏👊
what's denon stuff like these days with reliability...i'm thinking of buying some 6000m's
Same as it ever was
I still miss that you dont have Stems on Controllers... Maybe in the future!
they will come to standalones at some point, for sure
hi, i love eveything about the PRIME4+ ! but i can not find the stems in the 4.0 version software
It was only ever in a beta version and we don’t think it will see the light of day frankly
Dag Nabbit i was hoping this was that Rane Performer Review😁
I have been having an issue of going from playlist to playlist experience a significant amount of time updating to see the next playlist. Detroit DJ Dev
Could be the speed of your USB drive, try another one to test
anyone got a link to a 4.0 feature walkthrough using the SC6000? Can't find one anywhere :(
Sorry, we didn't have time to do one. You get a couple of views to cycle through with the opposite waveform, but apart from that it is as demoed here.
Are the deck and waveform layout options available on the sc live 4 aswell just on a smaller scale?
Yes
Looks great. I will update my 6000Ms tonight.
Have fun!
how about adding Tap BPM feature Denon, it is a big feature missing from their all in one controllers
It is that's true
Since the update my sclive4 stopped reading the sd card. Only reads usb
Weird, hope you find a solution
How did he put the FX visible on the big screen ?? Didn't find the option on my p4+
if you turn the FX knob they pop up on the screen
hi i think we was all hopeing for Bluetooth head phones / speakers output as we got bluetooth input on the last update hopefully we can get this very soon 👍 by the way keep up the good work mate 100% A ⭐⭐⭐⭐
We shall see... and thanks!
I really thought they will bring STEM as soon as possible. Any idea when they will get this on the system, been like over a year now?
No time soon is my guess
I’m have a Denon prime 4 did the update and now I lost the use of my cue pads, Loop, Roll and Slicer which I use and now I am not able too seems like every time I down load update I loose something is just up setting can you assist me with this issue
You can turn the pads on and off in the settings, see if you can change it there
Had anyone run into wifi unable to turn on it was fine before the 4.0 update. Ive even re installed from usb buy still cant get it to work 🤬🤬
I got the same issue mate, had it with 3.4 as well on my pro go, only option was to downgrade back to 3.2
Sensational update. Especially for us SC5000/6000 users.
Yeah it is a good news evening!
was wating for the video just downloaded it . the layout completely changed
Same 😂
Anyone else notice anything wacky going on with thier tracks? A couple of mine are playing a small section of the track despite showing the true track length. Might need to reanalyze or something.
Does sound weird!
Another free update. Thanks fir the run through Phil. I don't think the large text item was there before.
No I don’t recall it either but I do get these things wrong sometimes
Is there a Tidal/Beatport BPM/KEY sort feature in the new update or do you still have to struggle like before? It would be great if you could analyze all songs in one of your playlists 🙂
You will never learn how to dj on one of these units 😂
It does the mix for you
Says who?
I'd love to see song played counter.
Super update, i only mis the, decimal seconds behind time remaining, there gone.only full seconds remaining now..
Is it possible to see waveform from other player? Or only layer a and b? Play 2 sc 6000 m .
Where can we find the sampler? How can we access it on a SC6000? --- Cracked the case - My sampler wasn't loaded yet - It was empty - just had to pick a couple of fine samples. Now it works fine.
I want a “one knob” mode, where it takes all of these new features, bypasses them, and the decks run at their fastest and highest CPU performance , allowing access to minimal features. Like black and white mode on a cell phone to reserve power.
Super update, i only mis the, decimal seconds behind time remaining, there gone.only full seconds remaining now..
Is it possible to see waveform from other player? Or only layer a and b?
Thanks for the video, very clear.
Do you know if the stem feature on prime 4+ is finally available more than a beta version ?
Thanks again.
I just found a feature you missed - I think :) You couldn't hear mixer FX in your headphones in 3.x. They're now back so you can hear your filter/echo/noise/wash in the headphones! YAY!
We covered it! Thanks for reinforcing, maybe we only did it in the article
@@digitaldjtips Awesome!
I was hoping the bluetooth to speakers was in this next update :(
Is that not already there?
Hello, I would love to activate the stems in the next update
Who know? Maybe they will!
Still I can't create playlist from a folder without a computer. That's hard to program it in? Also ability to change track names and arrange the tracks based on energy levels from 'Mixed in Key' software?
No you cannot do this from the unit
I know, but I've asked them to program it in....if it's meant to be the real STAND alone aka 'no computer needed'. Perhaps if more of customers request it, they may consider putting it into the next firmware update... Worth a try imho.
That does look good. Nice :)
Hi all at digital DJ,
How do I move my music library from engine 1.4 to 4.0 easily. With all my data infor ie loops and cue points etc...?
There are instructions on the Engine DJ website. You need to upgrade to 3.x first.
2.0 was a big update with a change to library management, so I would go from 1.4 to 2.0, then 3.0, then 4.0
Awesome update. But please add in the Stems feature, please hook up with Virtual DJ to use their program. Also, please fix echo in FX. The only way to shut it off is the change the FX type, which just sounds like a horrible cut off instead if fading out.
It does work with VirtualDJ
if you reduce the feedback that reduced the effect, maybe you have that set to the full amount?
I would like to be able to cross over from virtual DJ to standalone without having to reboot that would be awesome
On the layout screen I don’t have decks and waveforms can anyone help please?
would like the option to not have the wave forms at all
Never heard that request before!
Will they do engine DJ for tablets making it lighter than laptops?
Boa noite, é possível criar uma play list dentro do Amazon music e mantê-la salva ?
Wooow my master is on !
Dis regard rebooted and it started working again.
Glad you fixed it
I also wish we could make the wave form on top bigger. I only see a small preview or the super huge one.
I'd love to know how create a crate. I don't see that option.
You can’t on the unit
Can anyone tell me how he got the fx, beat, feedback along the bottom of the screen please and thank you
Its like having new Girlfriend ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
are these updates similar on prime 2?
Yes
my denon prime 4 plus don't show the FX at the bottom of the screen like in this video, how can I do that?
Have you updated your firmware?
@@digitaldjtips yes, I have everything but this exact thing that I mentioned
Love the 3 different views.
So do I
Great video, thanks!
Glad you liked it!
What will happen if you put your Denon ready USB into a Pioneer player?
It will see the tracks, but nothing else - not a good experience.
@@digitaldjtips Ah that's too bad.
is it possible to see "commentary" writen in the track tag ?