I'm always amused that the choice offered is binary- either Christianity or atheism, like there weren't over 4,000 religions being practiced in the world.
@@jaytit entropy has got nothing to do with the claim of perfect design. If anything the existence of entropy prevents anything perfect to BE designed, so what point do you even think you are making? Or do you not understand language and rational concepts like explaining your intent.
I did enjoy the bumbling stumbling flood story. 2 animals except 10 except 5… rained for 40 days but the gates were opened so it flooded In All at once- Noah found a bird with a branch from a tree that no longer existed. They landed on top of a mountain and all the animals swam to their places where they lived and waited for the waters to recede. After a year the meat eating animals be like - I don’t care if that’s the last gazelle on the planet I’m eating it for dinner ……
Intro: "I didn't make this video to be hateful or spiteful". Later: "Most atheists are people who choose to stop believing in God so they can do bad things without consequences."
Dang, I never believed in a god, not a single one of them. So if Daniel is correct, am I allowed to do bad things without consequences now, or do I first have to believe in his god, and then stop believing, to be able to do bad things without consequences? This god malarky is so confusing and tricky. I find choosing insurance tricky enough. Choosing a god seems trickier and with stiffer consequences once you get one. Is Daniel intimating you are better off not believing in a god, as there are no consequences. Is he promoting atheism?
@@briannewton3535 I believe his position will probably be that the existence of God is so obvious that you can't possibly not believe. You're just pretending not to believe so you can commit horrible sins, secretly knowing that you will be condemned to an eternity of torture because secretly you really do believe. You do this even though if you were a christian you could sin all you want and have it forgiven by occasional church attendance and putting a jesus fish on your car. Presumably you also deny the existence of the police so you can get away with committing blatant felonies in full view of uniformed police officers.
@@JustOneFletch Oh, I believe in the police okay, it's the justice system that I don't believe exists. I'm a sovereign citizen, I can sin all I want, and there is no god, or law of this land that can stop me, I AM a god, hehe.
Police Officer: "You're under arrest for murder!" The Accused: "But I'm an atheist..." Police Officer: "...oh...bugger...well, sorry to have shouted at you, I'll be on my way then..."
If I believed still my stance would still be to object to condemning 99% of everyone to eternal torment regardless of circumstance. If god’s existence was proven to me very little would change.
@@sebastianlaplume461 Nah, it'd be a huge change. If the universe was ruled by an awful tyrant I'd be terrified... but if would give humanity a whole new purpose: "If we can detect it, we can fight it. If we can fight it, maybe we can kill it."
This is what Christianity is based on. Condemn/sin something that is perfectly natural behaviour, then the poor christian feels so guilty they have to run to the church for absolution, rinse and repeat and milk for donations to help the absolution along a bit (see the Christian Crusades for a good example)
@@SirSicCrusader The Kent Hovid is strong with this one ,I recognised ALL his arguments they go back at least 30 years , Oh and Fred Hoyle Died in 2001
Hello Sir. I am an Apotheist, we (me) posit that if the gods of any religion exists, then with the evidence at hand, the gods had no hand in making mankind (biogenesis and all that). Therefore any worship of the gods is a usurpation of human will and rejection of human agency.
Largely because human brains are pattern matching machines and we see links where there are no links. This leads to superstitions. Superstitions lead to traditions. Traditions are often taken over to control, join and manipulate through shared beliefs.
Well I will take credit for how good that is for you and not that its totally just a random time I picked... also its gonna change when daylight savings moved... hope it doesnt ruin your whole day :P
Ranks right up there with "I used to be an atheist..." In either instance, such statements usually precede a demonstration of a complete misunderstanding of atheism.
Apologists say their god is always perfect and their book is flawless and can't be misunderstood, yet the "job" of apologist exists. I see a conundrum here.
their faith is splintered into many temples, within 3 major groups... and they claim the other ones are false and wrong... the one book (or all 3) was scrutinized by science and raise more questions then answers.. apologists only tell you how wrong you are, because there is nothing on their side to prove they are right (other then "ma holy book)"... amuzingly.. at least where these apologists exist, you hear nothing alike from the other faiths.. they seem more chill, thus wiser...
@@zebaklongfang9344 Perhaps to spread like a tree with many branches until there are only priests. And they all call each other liars. Imagine the war. ☠️ 💀 📈 🖖 😃 📉
"Our bodies are wonderfully designed in perfect order",... tell that to my schoolmate Tim, who died from Leukemia aged 19, after a long struggle. This brings us back to the Epicurean Paradox.
Our bodies aren't even well designed anyway!! The human retina is literally upside down and inside out, what kind of stupid and inept creator would build such a thing??
Danny Boy and his silly bill cap on backwards is so…fitting. And the way his eyebrows angle up when he appears “concerned” or “condescending”. Icky poo.
Yeah stop commenting on serious videos about bald script boys talking about magic sky psychos with words that are not allowed for age groups over a certain age. Stop it immediately.
@@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 exactly, they think putting shit like that on Video that criticizes religion will get them any converts ? they are delusional lol.
If you fear that your ideas might be taken as "hateful or spiteful", that's your clue to maybe educate yourself on different points of view. At least it's telling you to stfu.
They do know and are pretty good at brainwashing their base. If they know nothing else, that skill is enough to mess up so much important parts of our lives.
That's why they have to deny evolution, not just because it's a model that fits the evidence, but because if not they have to accept that we evolved to fit the bit of the universe we find ourselves existing in. Oh look, we have a choice, a natural scientifically proven way of explaining how we are here, or a universal big boy did it then ran away and hid from everyone. Hmm, that's a difficult choice...
When will any apologist realize as soon as the utter "by chance" or "random" their entire argument is meaningless? All they are proving is they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. It's NOT a complicated concept.
Why do apologists always talk about "perfect order"? WTF even is perfect order? They make absolute claims and things being perfect and expect the debate to be over. News flash, it isn't. And only Sith deal in absolutes! Well, Siths and Christian Apologists. 😊
I also noticed that phrase. I'm not sure how many scientists would classify the universe as ordered, let alone perfectly so. In fact I once heard it described that life was inherently increasing entropy.
They simply love to run themselves into dead ends of exaggerated "unendingly big" claims... lifespan of god, power of god, patience of god. Then you open up a bible and... ooops, it's all just fanfiction on a "but my dad can beat up your dad" sandbox discussion amongst four year olds!
@Ex Imperio Libertas Who the hell is worshipping Biden? The closest you come to worshipping a US politician is with Trump. There are Christians who have Trump as part of their theology.
@Ex Imperio Libertas Obama wasn't part of Christian theology. People literally think that Trump is part of god's plan and that god is going to reinstate him as president.
Bald theist: "Look at this strawman! LOOK AT IT! Doesn't this strawman look stupid? Yea, our dumb beliefs are much less dumb than this strawman, so we are right!"
So let me get this straight: the universe and everything in it both works in perfect order, AND is fallen and broken because of sin. Christianity is the single most self-contradictory belief I’ve ever heard, and it only gets worse as people defend/explain it.
Intelligent Design is my favorite argument for theism cause, like, I need to wear glasses to see, have a cleft lip, low sex drive and asthma... please, tell me all about how I am intelligently designed. It's such a nonsensical argument... not that any of the arguments for God aren't nonsensical but Intelligent Design is my favorite of them
The theists would bring up the "humans were perfect but Adam and Eve brought sin into the world, and now humans have all sorts of problems". You can't argue with someone whose only answer is "magic"
@@vladd415 god made a mistake putting the tree there if he know full well what was gonna happen And that's literally what Jesus's sacrifice was, god asking humanity for forgiveness Except it doesn't work cos nothing was actually sacrificed cos he came back God is a chronic screw up, not to mention narcissist
He questions Darwinian evolution? As a being that has evolved to hunt and consume whisky I disagree! I am a whiskyvore, no bottle top or Cork can stop me!
I came across a Jameson coffee flavored whiskey. I love coffee. So I may have to pick up a bottle. It says it's only available for a limited time. So I better get on that.
The strange thing is that they are almost always apologists trying to prove their religion to others. Its like the prerequisite for being an apologist is immense ignorance and stupidity and/or immense dishonesty.
Funny you should mention those things. The atheist doesn't understand the meaning of atheism. He actually believes it's a rejection of a claim due to lack of evidence, even when you provide overwhelming evidence to the fact that atheism is a disbelief it's an unwillingness or inability to accept God as true regardless of evidence The Atheist can't comprehend it. The Atheist also can't distinguish between the biological fact that organisms change and their faith-based claim in the name of evolution that we evolved from something like a fish to a chimpanzee. Same thing when it comes to having different ethnicities the atheist can't comprehend the difference between the biological fact that organisms change and his faith-based that we have different ethnicities because of environmental reasons like whether and diet.. speaking of the big bang theres countless atheist even today all over UA-cam calling a con man Richard Dawkins a genius, a genius because he said a singularity popped into existence from nothingness then imploded and became everything. LOL nothingness, no air no space nothing . Even a 5 year old understands the rabbit coming out of the hat didn't come from nothingness.. Here's another bonus faith-based belief that atheist claim in the name of science, he actually claims a biological male has a brain of a biological female. He believes this so much he has no problem sterilizing and mutilating his children. The Atheist will also make claims outside of atheism like the idea that his position against God is based in evidence. He might say God doesn't exist and or that a non-intelligent occurrence is responsible for the origins of Life instead of a creator. But if you ask an atheist if it's his position that a non-intelligent occurrence is responsible for the origins of life he will usually backpedal and say no. But if he does say yes and you ask him prove it the atheist will run away. The reason why he will run away is because he has no scientific or physical evidence he requires from you and he can't even logically reason it. Because the atheist doesn't understand the burden of proof he believes because he's an atheist he has a get out of the burden of proof card for free.. the atheist doesn't understand the burden of proof is to the claim if he claims God doesn't exist and or he claims a non-intelligent occurrence his responsible for the origins of life he has a burden of proof to these claims, atheist or not. Like I said atheism itself has no burden of proof because it's not evidence-based it's in unwillingness or inability to accept God as true regardless of them. But if someone makes a claim outside of atheism they have the burden of proof whether or not they're an atheist... Knowingly or not the atheist is the most religiously oppressed people on the face of the earth.. matter of fact most atheists are forced into atheism, over 90% of the world's atheist come from atheistic government which are all communist without exception. Outside of communism the next largest representation for atheism is the LGBT community and then it's supporters like I said not evidence-based.....
@@tomme4314 "The atheist doesn't understand the meaning of atheism."-- From that comment I was expecting the logical fallacy of "no true scotsman" but you surprised everyone with the "shifting the burden of proof" instead. "He actually believes it's a rejection of a claim due to lack of evidence"-- Hmmm, can you back that claim up with ANY evidence? Again, you really dont understand logic or logical fallacies. I dont care if you still believe in a god, I really want you to actually open a textbook instead of the bible and educate yourself on SOMETHING. Right now, if you were on the show "Am I smarter than a fifth grader", you would get eliminated on the first question, that is how ign-oran-t you are. Perhaps you should seriously consider the adages "Better to remain silent and be thought a fo-ol than to speak and to remove all doubt." or "It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stu-pid than open it and remove all doubt." Also, your god is either non existent or a complete d-ick if he let you type the comments you made above, and still allowing you to think you made any valid or logical point.
"In fact, many of my friends are atheist." Oh, neat. Do you have a black friend, too? Just trying to see if we can mark off another box on Totally Not A Bigot Bingo.
I once kissed a girl. And she wasn't even white. That's like, three categories. If you're also following 'totally has an active sex life' Bingo as well. Therefore; I am categorically incapable of thinking, anything that is incorrect. Sadly; The cost was that I became an insufferable weeb for five whole years.
Are you sure it works that way? The more black friends you have the more bigot you are? It's a bizarre way to measure bigotry. If he has a Toyota surely it means he hates Japanese cars.
"I am going to talk about (group I have a prejudice against) and I want you to know that I don't hate (group I have a message prejudice against)- in fact many of my friends are (group I have a message prejudice against) so I know what I am talking about. But anyway, they're all horrid." Ken Doll Moby, 2021
While I certainly agree that needing glasses would imply that one's eyes are imperfect, who is to say that not having hair implies imperfection? And I'm not just saying that because I'm bald, I can literally think of several advantages of not having hair. Mostly because I had to think of them, because I'm bald. 😁
"nobody chooses to be an atheist" I did. I studied the issues and concluded that atheism makes the most sense. Nobody made me do it. It wasn't inevitable. I chose to do it. "Nobody chooses their beliefs" is is one of the dumber canards among pop atheists.
@@MudflapNichols I just pin my comments where they are visible. If that violates some UA-cam rule of etiquette so be it, I choose to do so. BTW I liked your comment.
@@tatiana4050 I chose to look at the evidence in the first place. If I choose to look at more evidence it will probably alter my opinions. Saying that we don't choose our beliefs is simplistic and wrong. Some beliefs may be primarily the product of our environment, and largely outside of our control, but some aren't.
In a way “you don’t believe in god because you want to do whatever you want” is true for me. As a Gay person I was keen to keep religions at a distance and thus avoided falling victim to the brainwashing and so after many science classes which I understood because I wasn’t primed to reject them it was clear to me that the god hypothesis was absolutely untenable
Ah the perfection of the human body. So perfectly designed that solids liquids and gasses are all taken in through the same pipe. That would have been a fun discussion. "No no look Steve it'll be fine see here, little fleshy valve solves everything, flip it this way it's eating that way it's breathing. Long as the folks up in programing don't mess up the code and make these apes dumb enough to breathe when they're eating it'll be fine... Hey Bob need something?... Yeah yeah there's another little fleshy valve on the back end, we've got little fleshy vales all over this thing..why?...They..they're sticking what up there now? Really? The whole thing? Wow...no no time to fix it we're behind schedule as it is...just slap some extra hair on it and we'll call it an optional extra."
I cringe so hard when he says "evolution in perfect order", like dude, who the fuck said there is a perfect order in evolution, you can't even say it is ordered, it's just a selective process. It's like theists need something to be perfect and can't stand others saying that there ain't one perfect shit in the universe
The anal sphincter is the most intelligent muscle in the human body, it is the only on which can tell the difference between a solid, a liquid and a gas.
@@dahitmann but that’s the thing, that’s an integral part of why theism is a major problem. Look at America and Canada and residential catholic schools. They didn’t just shove it down kids throats, they killed them. Or the battleground that Texas has become between far right Christians and the educated secular community over the subject of evolution versus creationism/CRT/the history of slavery in America/sex ed being taught in schools, because Texas is where school books for the entire country are made.
"Rocks do not have the capacity to believe or disbelieve in gods...Therefore rocks are agnostic." Would be an interesting conversation between Sir Sic and Steve MrCrae. One demanding you accept his words as fact, and the other zoned out thinking about whiskey and killing all Hooman's.
Ok this has nothing to do with the video, but I came across an article that says “State department reportedly investigating a missing $5,000 bottle of whiskey”. Sic, was that you?
I live in Kansas. And I've seen tornados and eat they can do. Now while I agree I've not seen one create aircraft, I've seen one turn a tanker off of an 18 wheeler into a passable pretzel.
What is so hard for Theists too comprehend that some people don't believe in the fairytales they believe in and they take it at as a personal attack when they are questioned about there's.
Whenever somebody states the odds (or even better, just compares the odds to something unlikely) that the big bang/planets/constants/evolution/etc exists, I always want to know how these odds are allegedly calculated.
I would think an "omni-everything" overlord all powerful all knowing creator of everything would make it so apologists were not necessary.... but who am I to question the non existent?
Changes in species over time due to beneficial mutations is what evolution focuses on. Animals with beneficial mutations surviving better and outlasting/outbreeding their less adapted counterparts isn't by chance. Apologists focus on part about the mutations occurring randomly. Any particular organism gets beneficial or harmful mutations by chance. (There isn't a force that decides which animals get good genes and which ones get bad genes.) If a bunny gets a gene mutation that lets it ... run ... 20% faster than other bunnies, it is more likely to survive and pass that gene on to its descendants. Apologetics argue "but how can that happen by chance?" because they need the universe to be designed. A beneficial mutation "proves" a loving god who makes things better over time. It's why they never talk bout another part of evolution - that species can die out due to genetic problems or maladaptation to environmental changes. Why would a designer make things that will die out due to poor design? They literally can't see the forest for the trees.
Aww, bless his heart. Incredulity, and clueless misunderstanding. One step further, he could also believe the earth is flat... or maybe he already does.
Why is a bald guy wearing a hat backward inside ? If you listen to what he argues, the first question may start to make sense, in the fact that it wouldn't. Wait, what?
"If you knew that Jesus was real . . . would you follow him?" Which leads me to ask, "If you knew that Satan was real, would you follow him?" The fact that something is real does not necessarily make it worthy to be followed, praised, or worshiped.
I don't get the difficulty some people have in understanding how we come from single-celled organisms. Literally every single living thing on this planet starts out as a single cell.
Let's be real, reality cannot be a simulation. I've (sadly) not seen a single person glitch through the ground, fall to the center of the earth and finally respawn ten seconds later.
His god could be at the Planck epoch which is where the physics breaks down at 10 to -32 seconds, he just needs to prove it in a peer reviewed paper now. Lol.
I've explained that to many people. Even if you personally introduced me to the God of the Bible and I was convinced beyond all doubt that he was real and exactly as the book describes, and Jesus was alongside him and he also was real, I would not be a supporter, that guy is a monster. I would be a believer but not a supporter. Now, if he then convinced me the book is a total lie and he showed me he is totally different and actually a good guy, only then MIGHT I be a supporter. As it stands now though, I do not believe the God described in the bible exists, and I believe the bible is a collection of writings primarily written to codify and validate the power base of the time period it was created. Nothing more. It's just all garbage.
@Frances Snowflake I never ask if theism is true. That's like asking if liking cats over dogs is true. What I tend to ask is if they can provide evidence what their religion teaches is true.
@Frances Snowflake Religion noun a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, *_especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies,_* usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
@Frances Snowflake Did you miss the bolded text? "especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies". A god most certainly fits that description. While not all religions have a god(s), all gods are a part of a religion, ergo, there is an intrinsic link between theism and religion, though not necessarily the other way around.
@Frances Snowflake theism noun belief in the existence of a god or gods, specifically of a creator who intervenes in the universe. atheism noun disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods. There are people who lack belief in the existence of gods, therefore athiesim is true. It says nothing about whether the claims made by religion are true. Whiterabbit's original comment is correct, so I don't know why you're fighting a definition war about "theism" and "religion"
@Frances Snowflake I've never thought about it before, but by that definition I would say yes. Of course, it helps to clarify the definition you're using when having this discussion with people, otherwise confusion _will_ ensue.
Whenever some guy like this launches into a premeditated misunderstanding of the big bang and evolution, just stop him and demand to know where God came from.
Where do I get one of them there perfect order bodies? Mine am the terrible, all sorts has stopped/never worked/doesn’t work the way it’s supposed to. Perfect order - damaged return more like
Even those who have perfect vision don't have room to talk since the human retina is essentially inside out and upside down, what kind of perfect creator would create such an obvious design flaw?
Can we just rename them to incredulists instead of apologists? Every single "argument" is "This thing I don't understand seems unlikely to me, so it obviously couldn't have happened."
I find it interesting that he quotes Fred Hoyle. Back in the 40s and 50s, the expanding universe idea was gaining traction. Up to that point most older, mainline cosmologists viewed the universe as continuous and unchanging. This was a result of observing our own stable Milky Way galaxy over the previous 100 years and due to our limited knowledge, assumed that it was the entire universe. External galaxies were a relatively new concept (thanks to Edwin Hubble) back then. Fred Hoyle was a defender of the unchanging universe idea and called his proposal the Steady State Theory. In order to denigrate the opposition he coined the phrase "Big Bang" which unfortunately stuck and remains with us today. He created that term to oversimplify the expanding universe model and make it look a little ridiculous. The irony here is that scientists are people too and have their biases. The unchanging, infinite universe idea contradicted most religions with their creation myths. The Big Bang theory pointed to a moment of creation of the universe and this didn't sit well with the status quo scientists who just didn't feel comfortable with its possible religious overtones. Thanks to Penzias and Wilson's discovery of cosmic background radiation in 1964, the Steady State theory was finally put to rest. It is the ultimate irony that the astronomer that proposed the no-moment-of-creation Steady State is being used to defend fundamentalist Christianity against the moment-of-creation Big Bang. That is why the Catholic Church was one of the earliest religious institutions to embrace the Big Bang because it describes a creation moment.
I'm a MEtheist. [Not to be confused with a METHeist] I'm awesome. I answer all my own questions and punish myself for my transgressions.* *One part of me had to be beaten a few times a day for the longest time.
This was a great one. You're the best! I'm still mourning that I had to stop patreon and whiskey club 😢 due to temporary financial issues, hope to be back to supporting you really soon! (Perhaps I'll order more merch in the meantime to add to my collection...)
Imagine wearing mesh, snapback caps backwards while bald, while sunburned, while fullback, fitted caps exist. What swamp did this shitheel stumble out of?
Needs more turtle wax that one. And a crash course _"from single-celled organism to turtles"_ - an introduction to evolution, would help massively too.
Wooooow this dude went for the land speed record for "how many logical fallacies can I parrot from pro apologists in one poorly shot and edited video?" Despite best efforts, mah dude still came up short. Kent "The Prison Penetratorsaurus" Hovind still holds that title, unfortunately. Got it off the same cereal box he got his doctorate from!
I'm loving this channel more and more. I was subscribed to other larger atheist channels, but lately it seems like they're gradually advocating for something reminiscent of the Atheism+ fiasco from several years ago. Sir Sic is funny and stays on point rather than trying to shame me for eating a burger while watching this.
Why why why… did he correctly define atheism. Then go on to talk about naturalism, Darwin theory of evolution, big bangs, random events, how we originated even though he doesn’t know, bodies are wonderfully designed (chokes on my coffee and thinks drinking wasn’t so wonderfully designed). Dang it he started off the second time so well!!
He at least made me sit up and take notice. At least starting with a decent definition could have made for some interesting points. Until he ignored the definition, and started in on the typical creationist straw man "atheist" BS. My theory is he just wanted to get our hopes up, just to dash them. Downright sadistic he was.
It always gets me how so many apologists lie despite there being a commandment telling them not to lie.
because it doesnt count when they do it
They can just say they're sorry to Jesus and be instantly forgiven.
"Jerry, just remember. It's not a lie if *you* believe it (yourself)."
- George Costanza, 'Seinfeld'
It says, "thou shalt not bear false witness." Cant say these guys arent good at splitting hairs.
One NEED to lie in order to be an apologist. It's impossible to have any honest apologist.
I'm always amused that the choice offered is binary- either Christianity or atheism, like there weren't over 4,000 religions being practiced in the world.
Yep. Classic pascal's fallacy.
Most of which are Christian sects.......
That was the idea behind Pascal's Wager, once religions other than Christianity enter the picture, the Wager becomes meaningless.
@@tedferkin Most are local indigenous religions from Africa and Asia- anything from Shinto to Yoruba. Also Australian and South Pacific.
Clearly you have forgotten that Christianity is The One True Faith™. Obviously those crazy foreign religions don't count.
That part about the irony of wearing glasses while claiming human bodies are in perfect order was fantastic.
That was a great thing to end at lol.
He also looks bald... which doesn't seem to fit with perfect (intentional) design either, as it usually stems from a hormonal imbalance...
You understand entropy?
@@Ugly_German_Truths clearly you don't comprehend entropy
@@jaytit entropy has got nothing to do with the claim of perfect design. If anything the existence of entropy prevents anything perfect to BE designed, so what point do you even think you are making? Or do you not understand language and rational concepts like explaining your intent.
I didn't "choose" to become an atheist. After carefully reading the Bible, I just eventually realized that I didn't believe in a deity.
after reading the bible I had to use it to beat myself in the head till I forgot it.... good call I think
@@SirSicCrusader Same... I read about all the Genocide and Rape, and Bleached my brain and burned that damned book
@@SirSicCrusader Have you thought about using it as toilet paper?
I did enjoy the bumbling stumbling flood story. 2 animals except 10 except 5… rained for 40 days but the gates were opened so it flooded In All at once- Noah found a bird with a branch from a tree that no longer existed. They landed on top of a mountain and all the animals swam to their places where they lived and waited for the waters to recede. After a year the meat eating animals be like - I don’t care if that’s the last gazelle on the planet I’m eating it for dinner ……
Worst collection of myths and legends ever.
I love that Atheism gets set up as another religion to disprove.
It's like proving that nothing doesn't exist. It's great.
You are religious because you believe things about reality...
@george vcelar I'm a bit knackered but that kind of reminds me of WLC's ontological "maximally great being" bullshit
@@SirSicCrusader Damn it.... I knew it.
@@SirSicCrusader believing things about reality makes you religious……. Hans wormyface has an existential crisis
i never believed in any gods. i didn't consider myself to be an ateist because i thought it was a religion or a class of people.
Intro: "I didn't make this video to be hateful or spiteful". Later: "Most atheists are people who choose to stop believing in God so they can do bad things without consequences."
oof
Dang, I never believed in a god, not a single one of them. So if Daniel is correct, am I allowed to do bad things without consequences now, or do I first have to believe in his god, and then stop believing, to be able to do bad things without consequences?
This god malarky is so confusing and tricky. I find choosing insurance tricky enough. Choosing a god seems trickier and with stiffer consequences once you get one. Is Daniel intimating you are better off not believing in a god, as there are no consequences.
Is he promoting atheism?
@@briannewton3535 I believe his position will probably be that the existence of God is so obvious that you can't possibly not believe. You're just pretending not to believe so you can commit horrible sins, secretly knowing that you will be condemned to an eternity of torture because secretly you really do believe. You do this even though if you were a christian you could sin all you want and have it forgiven by occasional church attendance and putting a jesus fish on your car.
Presumably you also deny the existence of the police so you can get away with committing blatant felonies in full view of uniformed police officers.
@@JustOneFletch Oh, I believe in the police okay, it's the justice system that I don't believe exists. I'm a sovereign citizen, I can sin all I want, and there is no god, or law of this land that can stop me, I AM a god, hehe.
Police Officer: "You're under arrest for murder!"
The Accused: "But I'm an atheist..."
Police Officer: "...oh...bugger...well, sorry to have shouted at you, I'll be on my way then..."
"I'll cough my lack of belief right in your face."
Please don't. I can only take so much lack of belief. I'll burst!
I think anyone who has the guts to disobey God despite believing in him, wouldn't hide behind "I'm an atheist"
If I believed still my stance would still be to object to condemning 99% of everyone to eternal torment regardless of circumstance. If god’s existence was proven to me very little would change.
@@sebastianlaplume461 Nah, it'd be a huge change. If the universe was ruled by an awful tyrant I'd be terrified... but if would give humanity a whole new purpose: "If we can detect it, we can fight it. If we can fight it, maybe we can kill it."
@@shemjaza that attitude is how you end up with one of those global flood thingies.
That’s assuming all of human behavior to be consistent. Wellll…
This is what Christianity is based on. Condemn/sin something that is perfectly natural behaviour, then the poor christian feels so guilty they have to run to the church for absolution, rinse and repeat and milk for donations to help the absolution along a bit (see the Christian Crusades for a good example)
What a well schooled little believer isn't he, Schooled but not educated, nice one Sir S
ha!
@@SirSicCrusader The Kent Hovid is strong with this one ,I recognised ALL his arguments they go back at least 30 years , Oh and Fred Hoyle Died in 2001
Hello Sir. I am an Apotheist, we (me) posit that if the gods of any religion exists, then with the evidence at hand, the gods had no hand in making mankind (biogenesis and all that). Therefore any worship of the gods is a usurpation of human will and rejection of human agency.
@@colinritchie1757 Hoyle died in a Boing 747 that crashed into a junk yard. OK I just made that up, but wouldn't it be poetic?
Sic, these Jeezy boyz are the reason for your house fire a few years back
When an apologist says, "Atheists believe ..." you can rest assured no atheist actually thinks that.
"Religion was invented when the first con man met the first fool" - Mark Twain.
Largely because human brains are pattern matching machines and we see links where there are no links. This leads to superstitions. Superstitions lead to traditions. Traditions are often taken over to control, join and manipulate through shared beliefs.
Your Wednesday video release always coincides perfectly with my 3rd mid-afternoon pre-lunch snack break. It is appreciated.
Well I will take credit for how good that is for you and not that its totally just a random time I picked... also its gonna change when daylight savings moved... hope it doesnt ruin your whole day :P
Wow, Same
@@SirSicCrusader I'll just shift it a bit. Or maybe just double up on my 7th pre-evening whiskey
Prophetic perhaps?🤭 you could make a religion out of this!
“I have a lot of (fill in the blank) friends.”
Sure you do buddy.
friends... what even are those...?
@@SirSicCrusader The peoples that might buy you the whiskey if you come to the commonwealth of Pennsylvania?
Ranks right up there with "I used to be an atheist..."
In either instance, such statements usually precede a demonstration of a complete misunderstanding of atheism.
Proctologist.
@@xaenon, everyone used to be athiest.... Some still are.
loved the "bald and wear glasses" comment at the end..."perfect working order" my recurrent laryngeal nerve.
Apologists say their god is always perfect and their book is flawless and can't be misunderstood, yet the "job" of apologist exists.
I see a conundrum here.
their faith is splintered into many temples, within 3 major groups... and they claim the other ones are false and wrong... the one book (or all 3) was scrutinized by science and raise more questions then answers.. apologists only tell you how wrong you are, because there is nothing on their side to prove they are right (other then "ma holy book)"...
amuzingly.. at least where these apologists exist, you hear nothing alike from the other faiths.. they seem more chill, thus wiser...
The sad part is that they don’t see a conundrum. Apparently it is a feature not a bug. Sorry for the IT reference.
Ye, if there was proof, the whole apologism wouldn't need to exist in the first place
@@zebaklongfang9344 Perhaps to spread like a tree with many branches until there are only priests. And they all call each other liars. Imagine the war. ☠️ 💀 📈 🖖 😃 📉
@@CyberBeep_kenshi Like the man said: If there's a god then it's part of nature. Bloody brilliant. 🪰 🔛 🇦🇺 🔜 😋
been having a Sir Sic marathon for 2 days. heck yeah
oof... I dont envy you... but I do have to live with the git... he thinks hes soooo funny...
A Sir Sic marathon is when you binge on whiskey for 24 hours straight. Or what Sic Sic calls "Tuesday".
And you can still write a comprehensible sentence. Impressive. 🥃🥃 Carry on.
Same bro, Ill drink to that... As long as Sir Sic doesn't know this is his stash...
That's a lot of whisky
"Our bodies are wonderfully designed in perfect order",... tell that to my schoolmate Tim, who died from Leukemia aged 19, after a long struggle. This brings us back to the Epicurean Paradox.
Our bodies aren't even well designed anyway!! The human retina is literally upside down and inside out, what kind of stupid and inept creator would build such a thing??
Danny Boy and his silly bill cap on backwards is so…fitting. And the way his eyebrows angle up when he appears “concerned” or “condescending”. Icky poo.
Yeah stop commenting on serious videos about bald script boys talking about magic sky psychos with words that are not allowed for age groups over a certain age. Stop it immediately.
@The Truth of the Matter Old enough to realise how little sense the bald guy's argument is.
@The Truth of the Matter I never said he was mature, lol
"I will always be correct all of the time and fight me" probably one of my favorite lines ever!
and true :D
@@SirSicCrusader Based!
Got to love the "Meet With Missionaries" ad that UA-cam puts on this video.
Yup, Amazing...
They think us idiots will fall for it, HA
excellent...
@@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 lol right
@@joseph-socialist.bsky.social Pure shitty Marketing at its finest, no?
@@Dianasaurthemelonlord7777 exactly, they think putting shit like that on Video that criticizes religion will get them any converts ? they are delusional lol.
When do apologists know anything? 😆
Also, your partner's Spoon Staff stories are very enjoyable. 🙂😘
I am super proud of it and her :D
@@SirSicCrusader there are not enough episodes. I binged through them all in basically a day
@@SirSicCrusader I just wish they came out more often!
If you fear that your ideas might be taken as "hateful or spiteful", that's your clue to maybe educate yourself on different points of view. At least it's telling you to stfu.
They do know and are pretty good at brainwashing their base. If they know nothing else, that skill is enough to mess up so much important parts of our lives.
The Universe is fine tuned and made for us? Ok.
Wait... what's that ominously approaching? Oh, it's entropy.
+Ben Coppola, writes _"The Universe is fine tuned and made for us?"_
True, if by "us" you mean "black holes".
The universe ds completely inhospitable to life!!!
Earth is a tiny rare exception
That's why they have to deny evolution, not just because it's a model that fits the evidence, but because if not they have to accept that we evolved to fit the bit of the universe we find ourselves existing in.
Oh look, we have a choice, a natural scientifically proven way of explaining how we are here, or a universal big boy did it then ran away and hid from everyone.
Hmm, that's a difficult choice...
When will any apologist realize as soon as the utter "by chance" or "random" their entire argument is meaningless? All they are proving is they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about. It's NOT a complicated concept.
Why do apologists always talk about "perfect order"? WTF even is perfect order? They make absolute claims and things being perfect and expect the debate to be over. News flash, it isn't. And only Sith deal in absolutes! Well, Siths and Christian Apologists. 😊
because black and white thinking probably
I also noticed that phrase. I'm not sure how many scientists would classify the universe as ordered, let alone perfectly so.
In fact I once heard it described that life was inherently increasing entropy.
Same with the Jedi.
They simply love to run themselves into dead ends of exaggerated "unendingly big" claims... lifespan of god, power of god, patience of god.
Then you open up a bible and... ooops, it's all just fanfiction on a "but my dad can beat up your dad" sandbox discussion amongst four year olds!
@@SirSicCrusader monotheistic all-good vs all-evil heavily reinforces black and white thinking
Worshipping potatoes makes more sense to me. We get French fries and vodka from them.
Edit: I'd be in it for fries.
Most vodka is made from grain. But there certainly are plenty of delicious things you can make with potatoes.
@Ex Imperio Libertas Who the hell is worshipping Biden? The closest you come to worshipping a US politician is with Trump. There are Christians who have Trump as part of their theology.
@Ex Imperio Libertas Obama wasn't part of Christian theology. People literally think that Trump is part of god's plan and that god is going to reinstate him as president.
@Ex Imperio Libertas what's a trumpanzee doing here ?... don't Q got their own channel ?
@Ex Imperio Libertas please don't insult potatoes like that. Potatoes are useful.
Ah, I see the problem here. He's listening to Frank Turek. He learned the dumb from the dumb. Got it!
dumbception
I'm considering the conspiracy theory that Turek isn't really a believer, he just likes the attention, and the money. Sort of like nathan oakley.
@@SirSicCrusader So _that_ is how they keep going dumber.
So whose paying you to share your thoughts?
@@jaytit why, you got some money? I wish I was being paid.
Bald theist: "Look at this strawman! LOOK AT IT! Doesn't this strawman look stupid? Yea, our dumb beliefs are much less dumb than this strawman, so we are right!"
Myself and my older brother both became atheists when we turned 13. Might have had something to do with our psycho church-lady mom.
So let me get this straight: the universe and everything in it both works in perfect order, AND is fallen and broken because of sin.
Christianity is the single most self-contradictory belief I’ve ever heard, and it only gets worse as people defend/explain it.
for extra fun, add in the references in the bible to god making mistakes. The same infallable god. Perfect.
Intelligent Design is my favorite argument for theism cause, like, I need to wear glasses to see, have a cleft lip, low sex drive and asthma... please, tell me all about how I am intelligently designed. It's such a nonsensical argument... not that any of the arguments for God aren't nonsensical but Intelligent Design is my favorite of them
and he made you an ant! what a prick...
The theists would bring up the "humans were perfect but Adam and Eve brought sin into the world, and now humans have all sorts of problems". You can't argue with someone whose only answer is "magic"
Looks at Australia >__>
Intelligent? no
High as fuck on meth? Sure
@@vladd415 god made a mistake putting the tree there if he know full well what was gonna happen
And that's literally what Jesus's sacrifice was, god asking humanity for forgiveness
Except it doesn't work cos nothing was actually sacrificed cos he came back
God is a chronic screw up, not to mention narcissist
My car was designed intentionally and I still have to repair it.... nice try tho.
"Athesim is a religion just like off is a tv channel"
:0
My favourite channel.
I really like that one m8. :)
He questions Darwinian evolution? As a being that has evolved to hunt and consume whisky I disagree! I am a whiskyvore, no bottle top or Cork can stop me!
mmmm... whisky...
I came across a Jameson coffee flavored whiskey. I love coffee. So I may have to pick up a bottle. It says it's only available for a limited time. So I better get on that.
A look, another theist that doesn't know the difference between Atheism, Evolution and the Big Bang Theory... quelle surprise
wat een verassing idd.... SIGGHHHHHHHHHH
But it is you who put yourself in such a situation by expecting anything different from them. Quite an optimist you are! Mais bon, c'est la vie.
The strange thing is that they are almost always apologists trying to prove their religion to others. Its like the prerequisite for being an apologist is immense ignorance and stupidity and/or immense dishonesty.
Funny you should mention those things. The atheist doesn't understand the meaning of atheism. He actually believes it's a rejection of a claim due to lack of evidence, even when you provide overwhelming evidence to the fact that atheism is a disbelief it's an unwillingness or inability to accept God as true regardless of evidence The Atheist can't comprehend it. The Atheist also can't distinguish between the biological fact that organisms change and their faith-based claim in the name of evolution that we evolved from something like a fish to a chimpanzee. Same thing when it comes to having different ethnicities the atheist can't comprehend the difference between the biological fact that organisms change and his faith-based that we have different ethnicities because of environmental reasons like whether and diet.. speaking of the big bang theres countless atheist even today all over UA-cam calling a con man Richard Dawkins a genius, a genius because he said a singularity popped into existence from nothingness then imploded and became everything. LOL nothingness, no air no space nothing . Even a 5 year old understands the rabbit coming out of the hat didn't come from nothingness..
Here's another bonus faith-based belief that atheist claim in the name of science, he actually claims a biological male has a brain of a biological female. He believes this so much he has no problem sterilizing and mutilating his children.
The Atheist will also make claims outside of atheism like the idea that his position against God is based in evidence. He might say God doesn't exist and or that a non-intelligent occurrence is responsible for the origins of Life instead of a creator. But if you ask an atheist if it's his position that a non-intelligent occurrence is responsible for the origins of life he will usually backpedal and say no. But if he does say yes and you ask him prove it the atheist will run away. The reason why he will run away is because he has no scientific or physical evidence he requires from you and he can't even logically reason it. Because the atheist doesn't understand the burden of proof he believes because he's an atheist he has a get out of the burden of proof card for free.. the atheist doesn't understand the burden of proof is to the claim if he claims God doesn't exist and or he claims a non-intelligent occurrence his responsible for the origins of life he has a burden of proof to these claims, atheist or not. Like I said atheism itself has no burden of proof because it's not evidence-based it's in unwillingness or inability to accept God as true regardless of them. But if someone makes a claim outside of atheism they have the burden of proof whether or not they're an atheist...
Knowingly or not the atheist is the most religiously oppressed people on the face of the earth.. matter of fact most atheists are forced into atheism, over 90% of the world's atheist come from atheistic government which are all communist without exception. Outside of communism the next largest representation for atheism is the LGBT community and then it's supporters like I said not evidence-based.....
@@tomme4314 "The atheist doesn't understand the meaning of atheism."--
From that comment I was expecting the logical fallacy of "no true scotsman" but you surprised everyone with the "shifting the burden of proof" instead.
"He actually believes it's a rejection of a claim due to lack of evidence"--
Hmmm, can you back that claim up with ANY evidence? Again, you really dont understand logic or logical fallacies.
I dont care if you still believe in a god, I really want you to actually open a textbook instead of the bible and educate yourself on SOMETHING. Right now, if you were on the show "Am I smarter than a fifth grader", you would get eliminated on the first question, that is how ign-oran-t you are.
Perhaps you should seriously consider the adages "Better to remain silent and be thought a fo-ol than to speak and to remove all doubt." or
"It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stu-pid than open it and remove all doubt."
Also, your god is either non existent or a complete d-ick if he let you type the comments you made above, and still allowing you to think you made any valid or logical point.
"In fact, many of my friends are atheist." Oh, neat. Do you have a black friend, too? Just trying to see if we can mark off another box on Totally Not A Bigot Bingo.
I once kissed a girl. And she wasn't even white. That's like, three categories. If you're also following 'totally has an active sex life' Bingo as well. Therefore; I am categorically incapable of thinking, anything that is incorrect.
Sadly; The cost was that I became an insufferable weeb for five whole years.
I have a theist friend called Mark. He's a great guy but people do make fun of him a bit for believing in the great sky fairy.
Are you sure it works that way? The more black friends you have the more bigot you are? It's a bizarre way to measure bigotry.
If he has a Toyota surely it means he hates Japanese cars.
@@souljastation5463 it's more the fact that people say "I have a black/Asian family member/friend to justify their racism and bigotry.
@@souljastation5463 "I have black friends" is to not being racist as "I'm a nice guy" is to not being an incel psychopath.
"I am going to talk about (group I have a prejudice against) and I want you to know that I don't hate (group I have a message prejudice against)- in fact many of my friends are (group I have a message prejudice against) so I know what I am talking about. But anyway, they're all horrid." Ken Doll Moby, 2021
3:24 "If atheism is true"
Atheism = I don't belive in God.
It is true, no matter if a God exists or not.
You must disagree with science and math too
@@jaytit Why?
@@gaellafond6367 Expecting an explanation of that was clearly optimistic. There isn't one.
While I certainly agree that needing glasses would imply that one's eyes are imperfect, who is to say that not having hair implies imperfection? And I'm not just saying that because I'm bald, I can literally think of several advantages of not having hair. Mostly because I had to think of them, because I'm bald. 😁
"nobody chooses to be an atheist" I did. I studied the issues and concluded that atheism makes the most sense. Nobody made me do it. It wasn't inevitable. I chose to do it. "Nobody chooses their beliefs" is is one of the dumber canards among pop atheists.
@@scambammer6102 I'm not sure what that has to do with my comment about being bald, but......okay. 🙂
@@scambammer6102 you didn't choose to be convinced by the evidence. And you can't just choose to believe in god tomorrow.
@@MudflapNichols I just pin my comments where they are visible. If that violates some UA-cam rule of etiquette so be it, I choose to do so. BTW I liked your comment.
@@tatiana4050 I chose to look at the evidence in the first place. If I choose to look at more evidence it will probably alter my opinions. Saying that we don't choose our beliefs is simplistic and wrong. Some beliefs may be primarily the product of our environment, and largely outside of our control, but some aren't.
In a way “you don’t believe in god because you want to do whatever you want” is true for me. As a Gay person I was keen to keep religions at a distance and thus avoided falling victim to the brainwashing and so after many science classes which I understood because I wasn’t primed to reject them it was clear to me that the god hypothesis was absolutely untenable
Ah the perfection of the human body. So perfectly designed that solids liquids and gasses are all taken in through the same pipe. That would have been a fun discussion. "No no look Steve it'll be fine see here, little fleshy valve solves everything, flip it this way it's eating that way it's breathing. Long as the folks up in programing don't mess up the code and make these apes dumb enough to breathe when they're eating it'll be fine... Hey Bob need something?... Yeah yeah there's another little fleshy valve on the back end, we've got little fleshy vales all over this thing..why?...They..they're sticking what up there now? Really? The whole thing? Wow...no no time to fix it we're behind schedule as it is...just slap some extra hair on it and we'll call it an optional extra."
I cringe so hard when he says "evolution in perfect order", like dude, who the fuck said there is a perfect order in evolution, you can't even say it is ordered, it's just a selective process. It's like theists need something to be perfect and can't stand others saying that there ain't one perfect shit in the universe
The perfect counter argument to intelligent design is butthair. That's not a feature, and it's gross.
The anal sphincter is the most intelligent muscle in the human body, it is the only on which can tell the difference between a solid, a liquid and a gas.
The best “big bang” actual name would be more like “everything stretching everywhere from one point”
When has an apologetic ever known what an atheist is even the ones that claim they used to be an atheist have no clue about atheists.
As an atheist, the only time I get offended is when a theist wants to shove his religion down children's throats in schools.
@@dahitmann but that’s the thing, that’s an integral part of why theism is a major problem. Look at America and Canada and residential catholic schools. They didn’t just shove it down kids throats, they killed them. Or the battleground that Texas has become between far right Christians and the educated secular community over the subject of evolution versus creationism/CRT/the history of slavery in America/sex ed being taught in schools, because Texas is where school books for the entire country are made.
@@dahitmann Or make laws that force us to abide by their religious beliefs, right? Because I find that pretty objectionable too.
"Rocks do not have the capacity to believe or disbelieve in gods...Therefore rocks are agnostic."
Would be an interesting conversation between Sir Sic and Steve MrCrae.
One demanding you accept his words as fact, and the other zoned out thinking about whiskey and killing all Hooman's.
Ok this has nothing to do with the video, but I came across an article that says “State department reportedly investigating a missing $5,000 bottle of whiskey”. Sic, was that you?
....no.... never
@@SirSicCrusader If you have it it's not missing to you, just to everyone else. Just sayin'...
One person's missing is another person's empty bottle
I hate people who argue the "perfection" of anything.
7:55 It's like saying "Some are religious so that they can blame their invisible sky wizard for their own choices"
I live in Kansas. And I've seen tornados and eat they can do. Now while I agree I've not seen one create aircraft, I've seen one turn a tanker off of an 18 wheeler into a passable pretzel.
What is so hard for Theists too comprehend that some people don't believe in the fairytales they believe in and they take it at as a personal attack when they are questioned about there's.
Because no agreeing with me is SIN
@@SirSicCrusader it seems like it
Whenever somebody states the odds (or even better, just compares the odds to something unlikely) that the big bang/planets/constants/evolution/etc exists, I always want to know how these odds are allegedly calculated.
I would think an "omni-everything" overlord all powerful all knowing creator of everything would make it so apologists were not necessary.... but who am I to question the non existent?
I choked on my beer@did this video just start again?!?
I love your delivery sic. Keep up the good work.
Changes in species over time due to beneficial mutations is what evolution focuses on. Animals with beneficial mutations surviving better and outlasting/outbreeding their less adapted counterparts isn't by chance. Apologists focus on part about the mutations occurring randomly. Any particular organism gets beneficial or harmful mutations by chance. (There isn't a force that decides which animals get good genes and which ones get bad genes.) If a bunny gets a gene mutation that lets it ... run ... 20% faster than other bunnies, it is more likely to survive and pass that gene on to its descendants. Apologetics argue "but how can that happen by chance?" because they need the universe to be designed. A beneficial mutation "proves" a loving god who makes things better over time. It's why they never talk bout another part of evolution - that species can die out due to genetic problems or maladaptation to environmental changes. Why would a designer make things that will die out due to poor design? They literally can't see the forest for the trees.
Aww, bless his heart. Incredulity, and clueless misunderstanding. One step further, he could also believe the earth is flat... or maybe he already does.
Did he say that the universe was in "perfect order"?
Someone doesn't get out much.
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Why is a bald guy wearing a hat backward inside ?
If you listen to what he argues, the first question may start to make sense, in the fact that it wouldn't.
Wait, what?
As I slap the whisky from Sir Sic’s hand I say ‘How verily dare thee claim that the baldness is a flaw!!’ 😜 👍🏻
"If you knew that Jesus was real . . . would you follow him?" Which leads me to ask, "If you knew that Satan was real, would you follow him?" The fact that something is real does not necessarily make it worthy to be followed, praised, or worshiped.
the bible clearly shows that whether or not yahweh/jesus exist, neither is worthy of being followed or worshipped or praised.
0:58 now that’s a religion I can get behind. No hell or Heaven, just being launched into the sun
I don't get the difficulty some people have in understanding how we come from single-celled organisms. Literally every single living thing on this planet starts out as a single cell.
I didnt... I was like... 20.... im just that good
How can these people have the internet in the palm of their hand, and still get shit this wrong.
I had no idea about Kevinism before this video, but now everything suddenly makes _so_ _much_ sense!
Welcome, my child.
I've got sharper rubbers (Erasers not condoms) in my pencil case, than this bespectacled cue ball!
After listening to this theist, I need my medicine. Wilma, WHERE'S MY WHISKEY?!
Better make it a large cask today.
Not sure how this one managed to sneak passed me for over a year. The giant "A" had me rolling. 😆
I regret watching these on a dry base where I can't take a shot every time a theist states an unfounded assertion as fact.
Let's be real, reality cannot be a simulation. I've (sadly) not seen a single person glitch through the ground, fall to the center of the earth and finally respawn ten seconds later.
"Challenge accepted!"
-DMT
His god could be at the Planck epoch which is where the physics breaks down at 10 to -32 seconds, he just needs to prove it in a peer reviewed paper now. Lol.
he would need to define god first
"God is being relegated to the farthest corners of the Universe."
@@neilgriffiths6427 God is always moving. And he takes the goalposts with him.
He thinks he just did.
Precisement!
"Didn't you have hair before? No. Wait, that's a hat..."
Hilarious 🤪
No, it's a CAPS. ...Men/women with style wear *hats* ;) ...unless we're talking stupid "hats" on parties.
I've explained that to many people. Even if you personally introduced me to the God of the Bible and I was convinced beyond all doubt that he was real and exactly as the book describes, and Jesus was alongside him and he also was real, I would not be a supporter, that guy is a monster. I would be a believer but not a supporter. Now, if he then convinced me the book is a total lie and he showed me he is totally different and actually a good guy, only then MIGHT I be a supporter. As it stands now though, I do not believe the God described in the bible exists, and I believe the bible is a collection of writings primarily written to codify and validate the power base of the time period it was created. Nothing more. It's just all garbage.
either way you would stop being an atheist because you know, defeating the point of his whole thing...
@@SirSicCrusader quite so
Curious that xians believe Satan is real.. but don't follow him??
I feel like Sir sic would be the greatest drinking buddy ever. I KNOW! I'll just take two shots and pretend he took one!
Who are these people who can't hack that humans may exist by chance? It means your existence has no purpose. So, what? Go create your own purpose.
Hoo-mans like the one in the video are why aliens don’t wanna contact us, they’re afraid of catching the stupid.
He didn't even sing it Sic, the nerve😯
I KNOW!
I thought being apologist was synonymous to being lying stupid and uneducated. This guy confirmed my bias.
"If atheism is true"
Well, it's true that I don't believe in any gods, sssooo... yeah.
@Frances Snowflake I never ask if theism is true. That's like asking if liking cats over dogs is true. What I tend to ask is if they can provide evidence what their religion teaches is true.
@Frances Snowflake Religion
noun
a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, *_especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies,_* usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
@Frances Snowflake Did you miss the bolded text? "especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies". A god most certainly fits that description. While not all religions have a god(s), all gods are a part of a religion, ergo, there is an intrinsic link between theism and religion, though not necessarily the other way around.
@Frances Snowflake theism
noun
belief in the existence of a god or gods, specifically of a creator who intervenes in the universe.
atheism
noun
disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
There are people who lack belief in the existence of gods, therefore athiesim is true. It says nothing about whether the claims made by religion are true. Whiterabbit's original comment is correct, so I don't know why you're fighting a definition war about "theism" and "religion"
@Frances Snowflake I've never thought about it before, but by that definition I would say yes. Of course, it helps to clarify the definition you're using when having this discussion with people, otherwise confusion _will_ ensue.
Too bad I can't get paid money for proving things that don't exist doesn't exist.
Technically... an explosion is an expansion.
However, an expansion isnt always an explosion.
The apoligist made his strawman into a game of pickup sticks and back into a strawman.
That's magic.
Imagine their trash in our politics.
Whenever some guy like this launches into a premeditated misunderstanding of the big bang and evolution, just stop him and demand to know where God came from.
hah
He came from special pleading, don't ya know?
God was created by man of course.
@@vinnyganzano1930 no wonder god's so fekked up..
Maybe the Bible is true. When Samson lost his hair, he lost his strength. When this guy lost his hair, he lost his marbles.
Where do I get one of them there perfect order bodies? Mine am the terrible, all sorts has stopped/never worked/doesn’t work the way it’s supposed to. Perfect order - damaged return more like
14:20
Did he just equate Kansas to a junkyard? Sneaky bastard!
I can actually catch your video when it comes out haha awesome such a good video u did it again!!!
siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiic etc
Got super drunk last night with a bunch of co workers im surprised that i am up to see your video out in the first place (its 1:32 here )
Started becoming an athiest after discovering that two people couldnt produce our diverse population. Was about 7 or 8. Contiued to spiral from there.
damn science and mathmatics... making you have to do the brain
Whiskey cured my existential dread, health drink confirmed!
Whenever someone tries to use the "tornado in a junkyard" analogy, they're just announcing that they're too ignorant to be taken seriously.
I always laugh when glasses wearing theists use the argument "our body is perfectly designed"
Even those who have perfect vision don't have room to talk since the human retina is essentially inside out and upside down, what kind of perfect creator would create such an obvious design flaw?
Is it bad I had to look up Frank Turek and the moment I saw his picture when "Ah that dumbass".
bad?...no, funny? hell yeah :D
Can we just rename them to incredulists instead of apologists?
Every single "argument" is "This thing I don't understand seems unlikely to me, so it obviously couldn't have happened."
I like that...
I find it interesting that he quotes Fred Hoyle. Back in the 40s and 50s, the expanding universe idea was gaining traction. Up to that point most older, mainline cosmologists viewed the universe as continuous and unchanging. This was a result of observing our own stable Milky Way galaxy over the previous 100 years and due to our limited knowledge, assumed that it was the entire universe. External galaxies were a relatively new concept (thanks to Edwin Hubble) back then. Fred Hoyle was a defender of the unchanging universe idea and called his proposal the Steady State Theory. In order to denigrate the opposition he coined the phrase "Big Bang" which unfortunately stuck and remains with us today. He created that term to oversimplify the expanding universe model and make it look a little ridiculous. The irony here is that scientists are people too and have their biases. The unchanging, infinite universe idea contradicted most religions with their creation myths. The Big Bang theory pointed to a moment of creation of the universe and this didn't sit well with the status quo scientists who just didn't feel comfortable with its possible religious overtones. Thanks to Penzias and Wilson's discovery of cosmic background radiation in 1964, the Steady State theory was finally put to rest. It is the ultimate irony that the astronomer that proposed the no-moment-of-creation Steady State is being used to defend fundamentalist Christianity against the moment-of-creation Big Bang. That is why the Catholic Church was one of the earliest religious institutions to embrace the Big Bang because it describes a creation moment.
I'm a MEtheist.
[Not to be confused with a METHeist]
I'm awesome. I answer all my own questions and punish myself for my transgressions.*
*One part of me had to be beaten a few times a day for the longest time.
Why? Did it stand up for itself too insistently?
@@jayfredrickson8632 Yhup! Always being inappropriate about the timing.
Beat it like like a purple headed step child.
This was a great one. You're the best! I'm still mourning that I had to stop patreon and whiskey club 😢 due to temporary financial issues, hope to be back to supporting you really soon! (Perhaps I'll order more merch in the meantime to add to my collection...)
Imagine wearing mesh, snapback caps backwards while bald, while sunburned, while fullback, fitted caps exist. What swamp did this shitheel stumble out of?
Lol really not a good look
@@cygnustsp He looks like M.O.D.O.K Superior
Some people should not wear baseball caps backwards and have shaved heads.
Mostly any one over the age of 13.
You don't believe in leprechauns because you want guilt-free gold.
Needs more turtle wax that one. And a crash course _"from single-celled organism to turtles"_ - an introduction to evolution, would help massively too.
Wooooow this dude went for the land speed record for "how many logical fallacies can I parrot from pro apologists in one poorly shot and edited video?"
Despite best efforts, mah dude still came up short. Kent "The Prison Penetratorsaurus" Hovind still holds that title, unfortunately. Got it off the same cereal box he got his doctorate from!
skillz
I'm loving this channel more and more. I was subscribed to other larger atheist channels, but lately it seems like they're gradually advocating for something reminiscent of the Atheism+ fiasco from several years ago. Sir Sic is funny and stays on point rather than trying to shame me for eating a burger while watching this.
Why why why… did he correctly define atheism. Then go on to talk about naturalism, Darwin theory of evolution, big bangs, random events, how we originated even though he doesn’t know, bodies are wonderfully designed (chokes on my coffee and thinks drinking wasn’t so wonderfully designed). Dang it he started off the second time so well!!
Correction: "Darwinianism."
because they just cant fathom the difference
He at least made me sit up and take notice. At least starting with a decent definition could have made for some interesting points. Until he ignored the definition, and started in on the typical creationist straw man "atheist" BS.
My theory is he just wanted to get our hopes up, just to dash them. Downright sadistic he was.
That hat sure highlights and draws attention to his baldness 😂