Failed to mention heim joints make a lot of noise when they become dry so you have to clean and lubricate often.The Johnny Joint,you just grease every oil change......
Hi, I'd like to get yours and everyone's opinion on a possible rear suspension modification (especially if you have had any experience with 2 to 5 ton trucks, 2wd or 4wd). This question is for a '69 one rear axle 2.5 ton 4x4 truck, leaf sprung. I once saw where someone was using shackles at both ends of the leaf spring and a torque bar connected under the spring pack. The frame end of the torque rod used a pin so the torque bar could move up and down but allow no lateral axle movement. And the axle end of the torque bar used a heim joint. This would allow the axle to rotate/twist if one side was going over a rock and the other side was not going over a rock, for example. The idea was to maintain the full load carrying capacity of the truck but allow for more axle movement on and off road and when loaded or unloaded. In addition to better axle movement, the person claimed it also afforded a much better ride loaded or unloaded both on or off road without putting a stress on anything as compared to when a rear axle is locked in place by leaf springs that only give at the one shackle. I hope I explained it ok. Everyone's comments would be appreciated. I am converting my 2.5 ton truck to 4wd and I'm considering this modification for my truck's rear suspension.
Wondering if Heim is a good option. Heard it wears out much faster than the urethane bushings, and I'm not sure how it would perform with harsh canadian winters... Also, it is metal on metal, so what do they mean that I would 'feel' it more? Is that bad?
I have a WJ. I have long arms with Heim joints. Work well but I’m developing a little play with only 2500 miles on them. I have greased them each day when wheeling and they never go more than 300 miles without grease.
Failed to mention heim joints make a lot of noise when they become dry so you have to clean and lubricate often.The Johnny Joint,you just grease every oil change......
Very informative yet simple explanation. thanks
Hi, I'd like to get yours and everyone's opinion on a possible rear suspension modification (especially if you have had any experience with 2 to 5 ton trucks, 2wd or 4wd). This question is for a '69 one rear axle 2.5 ton 4x4 truck, leaf sprung.
I once saw where someone was using shackles at both ends of the leaf spring and a torque bar connected under the spring pack. The frame end of the torque rod used a pin so the torque bar could move up and down but allow no lateral axle movement. And the axle end of the torque bar used a heim joint. This would allow the axle to rotate/twist if one side was going over a rock and the other side was not going over a rock, for example. The idea was to maintain the full load carrying capacity of the truck but allow for more axle movement on and off road and when loaded or unloaded. In addition to better axle movement, the person claimed it also afforded a much better ride loaded or unloaded both on or off road without putting a stress on anything as compared to when a rear axle is locked in place by leaf springs that only give at the one shackle. I hope I explained it ok. Everyone's comments would be appreciated. I am converting my 2.5 ton truck to 4wd and I'm considering this modification for my truck's rear suspension.
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I was thinking bushing one end and Johnny on other. Not sure if there’s any down sides to this type of set up
Wondering if Heim is a good option. Heard it wears out much faster than the urethane bushings, and I'm not sure how it would perform with harsh canadian winters... Also, it is metal on metal, so what do they mean that I would 'feel' it more? Is that bad?
I just bought a 1 ton heim upgrade for my Jeep WJ. Pretty excited to get it in.
Jason Rowles, how did it go with the heims? I also have a wj which i am planning on upgrading to long arms and trying to choose which type of joint
I have a WJ. I have long arms with Heim joints. Work well but I’m developing a little play with only 2500 miles on them. I have greased them each day when wheeling and they never go more than 300 miles without grease.
My rear track bar heim joints have both developed play and become noisy within 1yr/15k miles
Would the heim joint be annoying for traction bars?
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Nice ,i just heims joint and is not that bad for daely drive
Make sure your hair is 'right' but you can't spend 30 seconds washing mud off that new linkage...???
What does it hurt?
This guy just uses the surplus hair product on his head to grease the joints during a rebuild.
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