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How Rocksteady Destroyed The Arkhamverse

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  • Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
  • Rocksteady developed the best superhero franchise with Batman: Arkham Series. The Arkhamverse elevated Rocksteady, Kevin Conroy's Batman and Mark Hamil's Joker to legendary status within the gaming world. Batman Arkham Games were always considered the top tier superhero game so its downfall was a shame to see...
    Batman Arkham
    Arkham Series
    Batman Arkham Series
    Video Essay
    Batman Arkham Essay
    Batman Arkhamverse
    Batman Arkham Knight
    Batman Arkham Games
    Rocksteady
    Rocksteady's Downfall
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  • @michaelwayman9600
    @michaelwayman9600 2 місяці тому +58

    You know what’s sad and so unfair? Is with that Metropolis map we could’ve had just one helluva potential good quality Arkham Superman game in there somewhere. He hasn’t had a game in like 20 years.

    • @ObviousMalcolmEssays
      @ObviousMalcolmEssays  2 місяці тому +16

      Bingo. I think Superman is being even more disrespected than Batman

    • @BowenEros-gt8gn
      @BowenEros-gt8gn 2 місяці тому +5

      Brah, don't get me started.

    • @RedHood-kz7eb
      @RedHood-kz7eb 2 місяці тому +5

      ​@@ObviousMalcolmEssays what about the flash being pissed on during his death like God dam that's the person who got disrespected the most

    • @darlingxluxii7977
      @darlingxluxii7977 2 місяці тому +1

      @@ObviousMalcolmEssaysyeah for first time we see in rocksteady and superman is being treated like dirt. He’s the strongest member of the justice league too. ❤

    • @darlingxluxii7977
      @darlingxluxii7977 2 місяці тому

      @@RedHood-kz7ebyeah they were all done dirty and Wonder Woman 😭😭❤️❤️

  • @VaderTheWhite
    @VaderTheWhite 2 місяці тому +114

    Normally, I don't approve of people saying something isn't canon cause they hate it. Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League is the exception.

    • @ObviousMalcolmEssays
      @ObviousMalcolmEssays  2 місяці тому +11

      Very fair

    • @CB-THE-OG
      @CB-THE-OG 2 місяці тому +4

      Couldn’t agree any more

    • @cotopaximusic
      @cotopaximusic 2 місяці тому +4

      My exact thoughts

    • @jimmyarias5809
      @jimmyarias5809 2 місяці тому +5

      Star Wars ?

    • @BoniMayne
      @BoniMayne 2 місяці тому +2

      Idk if I should be surprised you’re being hypocritical or to agree because it’s so bad I did the same

  • @Sterlingl3591
    @Sterlingl3591 2 місяці тому +21

    Don’t forget how Harley sexually assaulted Deadshot. The utter disrespect of the JL is abhorrent. Harley was basically copy and pasted from Margot Robbie’s Harley. Arkham Harley was unique. It was like she was ripped out of BTAS. Rocksteady destroyed my respect for them. The game ain’t canon. It’s a Ketamine infused fever dream of Harley.

    • @jaredmccain7518
      @jaredmccain7518 2 місяці тому +1

      She even hit in kid Ivy as if they both had a gay fling.

  • @miner7292
    @miner7292 2 місяці тому +15

    We can all agree that this is not canon to the Arkhamverse, if Sefton Hill and his partner are not fully a part of the project, it is not a part of it

  • @scaryscarecrow5478
    @scaryscarecrow5478 2 місяці тому +22

    They should have made a Superman game or even a teen titans game or batman beyond arkham game

    • @nemesisprime4501
      @nemesisprime4501 2 місяці тому +1

      I can't really see how they'll pull off a superman game when you fly around and try collateral damage, or enemy types your facing.

    • @gameover9390
      @gameover9390 2 місяці тому +1

      A feel like a Superman game set after an event where he was temporarily controlled by branic would make for a great story, especially in today where apart from the Superman star man meme, Superman is portrayed as constantly evil. I think a story where Superman has to remind people that he actually a genuine good guy would make for a interesting narrative, heck as video game they can could use the subplot where branic alter their dna when he had them under control as a in game explanation for why Superman Powers aren’t up to the usual standard, and why the people has to regain his strength and power bit by bit, however an interesting twist would be to make this happen as Superman slowy regains the people’s trust. Especially tying the player’s growing strength with the people growing faith and support of you, allowing for the story to tell without speaking, about how the truth Measure of someone is what they do with their power, afterall power isn’t the end goal but a means to achieve your goals.

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 2 місяці тому +1

      tbh i want a batman game that is based on the predator mode of arkham.

  • @cotopaximusic
    @cotopaximusic 2 місяці тому +16

    I'd rather play Arkham Origins: Blackgate than ever spend a cent on SSKTJL

    • @nemesisprime4501
      @nemesisprime4501 2 місяці тому +2

      For me. Gotham knights, at least that batman has more of a heroic death. Twice

  • @yashmandla1234
    @yashmandla1234 2 місяці тому +9

    1:03 Dont blame zoomers we grew up with the arkham games, this game is pure corporate greed combined with a splash of trying to chase the trend od edgy anti-heroes established by shit like the boys and invincible

  • @BoniMayne
    @BoniMayne 2 місяці тому +12

    “Gen Z writers” yeah cuz all of us who grew up on Batman Arkham wanted that to happen…

  • @cameronbaker97
    @cameronbaker97 2 місяці тому +12

    And to think, after Arkham Knight's release, sequels to Arkham Origins could have been made (to fill in the gaps between Origins and Asylum) instead of Suicide Squad: KTJL.

    • @orlandofurioso7329
      @orlandofurioso7329 2 місяці тому

      Yep, the deathstroke tease in Arkham origins had so much potential

    • @ShockwaveFPSStudios
      @ShockwaveFPSStudios 2 місяці тому +1

      Arkham Knight really feels like the ticking point that lead to Suicide Squad Kills the Justice League being the nuclear bomb.

    • @King-CosmoAlpha1
      @King-CosmoAlpha1 Місяць тому +1

      Funny enough in Origins/blackgate it was teased that the Suicide Squad would play a role in a future game probably set in between the gap of Origins and Asylum sadly that idea was probably scrapped and instead we got ssktjl.

    • @orlandofurioso7329
      @orlandofurioso7329 Місяць тому +1

      @@King-CosmoAlpha1 at least we got assault on Arkham

  • @CB-THE-OG
    @CB-THE-OG 2 місяці тому +12

    It was so bad I looked up to Arkham Batman growing up so seeing his treatment in SSKTJL I stopped playing after I killed flashed and deleted the game off my ps5. I could tell the difference. I still play Arkham Knight and just repurchased and downloaded the return to Arkham remaster games just to get that terrible game of SSKTJL. I play the actual Arkham games and deleted the faux ones.

    • @ObviousMalcolmEssays
      @ObviousMalcolmEssays  2 місяці тому +7

      I honestly see SSKTJL as a joke. There had to be people im the studio that saw how bad it was going to be

    • @CB-THE-OG
      @CB-THE-OG 2 місяці тому

      @@ObviousMalcolmEssays Yes exactly! They could, no SHOULD have expected this with the way the game was going! It feels so unlike an Arkham game that I wouldn’t deem it as one. The developers and employees should have noticed this well in advance that something was off at the very least

    • @gameover9390
      @gameover9390 2 місяці тому +1

      @@CB-THE-OGThey did, half the team left between announcement and its first delay, then the rest of OG team left and created a new studio shortly before release. Rocksteady is just a name, the devs there are completely new and not a single person there, worked on Arkham Asylum, Arkham City, Arkham Knight or Arkham VR.

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 2 місяці тому

      tbh i want a batman game that is based on the predator mode of arkham.

  • @edviza1935
    @edviza1935 2 місяці тому +4

    Never thought i’d see Andrew Tate talk about the Batman Arkham series but i’m glad I did

  • @baki484
    @baki484 2 місяці тому +6

    To be fair Batman was confirmed to be alive at the end of arkham knight which was confirmed in the catwoman and Robin DLC by the henchmen and this was further confirmed in Reddit AmA Sefton Hill did a few years after arkham knight released.
    As for what they did with suicide squad... I won't say anything because this comment will be longer than it has been aside from its failure being deserved WB didn't force them they wanted to make this.

  • @nemesisprime4501
    @nemesisprime4501 2 місяці тому +2

    You know what cycles i see? When players start the game, their like, "why do people hate this game? It looks so good". Only when they get to the flash boss fight is when they start to rethink the games perception. And then finally when batman is killed off, it was already a coffin sealed when players are like "yep im done"

  • @BatmanNoir
    @BatmanNoir 2 місяці тому +3

    no lie Arkham knight is the best arkham game no debate

  • @callmejacob3234
    @callmejacob3234 2 місяці тому +2

    Some people want a Batman Beyond game. Others want a Superman game. Me I want a World's Finest game.

    • @jmgonzales7701
      @jmgonzales7701 2 місяці тому

      tbh i want a batman game that is based on the predator mode of arkham.

  • @geantbaguette
    @geantbaguette 2 місяці тому +5

    Very good video , keep pushing your content !

  • @NoNonsenseSpider
    @NoNonsenseSpider 2 місяці тому +4

    Batman Arkham is a quadrilogy

    • @ironbat5481
      @ironbat5481 2 місяці тому

      Arkham origins wasn't made by rocksteady

    • @NoNonsenseSpider
      @NoNonsenseSpider 2 місяці тому

      @@ironbat5481 But it's an Arkham game and it's canon

    • @NoNonsenseSpider
      @NoNonsenseSpider 2 місяці тому

      @@ironbat5481 No Way Home wasn't made by Sam Raimi and/or Marc Webb but it's canon to their universes. Marvel's Spider-Man 2 wasn't made by Joaquim Dos Santos, Kemp Powers or Justin K. Thompson but it's still canon to the Spider-Verse movies

    • @ironbat5481
      @ironbat5481 2 місяці тому

      @@NoNonsenseSpider that not the same

    • @NoNonsenseSpider
      @NoNonsenseSpider 2 місяці тому

      @@ironbat5481 It's an Arkham game and it's canon

  • @florian_is_wrong2217
    @florian_is_wrong2217 21 день тому +1

    Gen Z writers ❌
    Writers trying to appeal to Gen Z ✅

  • @RanchJackaBee
    @RanchJackaBee 2 місяці тому +3

    This shit rocks....teady
    Keep up the vids!

  • @AubreyTheKing
    @AubreyTheKing 2 місяці тому +1

    "The Suicide Squad didn't just kill the Justice League, but also the Arkham-verse." - Obvious Malcolm (2024)

  • @abeaconintheoffice
    @abeaconintheoffice 2 місяці тому

    After the latest Jason Schreier article, your title is very accurate.
    Turns out, it _was_ indeed Rocksteady's leadership that was to blame for the troubled development of the game.
    Not even WB
    Let alone the consulting company every asshole is attacking.

  • @faizrehman3146
    @faizrehman3146 2 місяці тому +2

    very good vid bro

  • @KristianDavies-tm3dv
    @KristianDavies-tm3dv 2 місяці тому +2

    What would you prefer a Batman Arkham movie or a Lego Arkham game

    • @gameover9390
      @gameover9390 2 місяці тому +1

      With how things are at WB, neither. Nice profile pic, that a very cute dog.

  • @tstimbo3471
    @tstimbo3471 17 днів тому

    Well at least they’ve been given the chance to finish the brainiac storyline and continue Arkham games afterwards

  • @diegoviveros556
    @diegoviveros556 2 місяці тому +1

    Great video. As mentioned by others Knight shouldn't be considered a real ending. It clearly wants to continue the story.
    Unfortunately Baby Inc's Rocksteady decided to continue the story. Suicide Squad is a complete travesty of the Arkham verse.
    Its a shame we didn't get the Batman beyond game

  • @RyanJ-qt8xj
    @RyanJ-qt8xj Місяць тому

    How wonder how they would've implemented the fear toxin in gameplay.

  • @meliminipotiron1
    @meliminipotiron1 2 місяці тому

    It was always said that suicide squad ktsl wasn't in the same world or timeline as the arkham series tho

  • @MrMagicianJr
    @MrMagicianJr 2 місяці тому

    I enjoyed the game, even though a lot of it repeats each other throughout the game i enjoyed it, im looking forward to seeing batman return to the game in the final season

  • @Unless-feature
    @Unless-feature 2 місяці тому

    It's a backstabbing by Warner Brothers, just like Deep Silver backstabbed Volition

  • @darlingxluxii7977
    @darlingxluxii7977 2 місяці тому

    It’s kinda sad how it went downfall spiral but I heard there was a new Arkham game coming for the google goggles? ❤❤❤

  • @mitchellalexander9162
    @mitchellalexander9162 2 місяці тому +3

    Normies: suicide Squad Killed the Arkhamverse.
    The Intellectuals: The Writing Changes during the Production of Arkham Knight killed the Arkhamverse.

  • @VinceBoncamper
    @VinceBoncamper 2 місяці тому +3

    I don't agree with your premise as I don't think Arkham Knight was a good ending at all. Nobody was interested in seeing how Batman ends at that time. People wanted more, not less. They wanted the series to continue and evolve. To play as Batman but also as his family, as other heroes, as the Justice League.
    Arkham Knight was only interested in being done with Batman games. They wanted to do other gameplay mechanics, sell DLC, costumes, battle passes....
    Honestly, everything wrong with Suicide Squad - started with Knight.

    • @ObviousMalcolmEssays
      @ObviousMalcolmEssays  2 місяці тому +7

      I understand the desire to have more but im a big defender in ending things on a high note, not when it starts failing

  • @killuafanboy3812
    @killuafanboy3812 2 місяці тому

    It didn't kill the arkhamverse. It shined a light on it.

  • @Joe_Kerr_9797
    @Joe_Kerr_9797 2 місяці тому +1

    1:00 Most zoomers I know hate this game.

  • @kahv6962
    @kahv6962 2 місяці тому +2

    hello

  • @thestarkknightreturns
    @thestarkknightreturns 2 місяці тому

    It's easy, just forget that Suicide Squad exists at all. That's what everyone has been doing, judging by the selling numbers. No one bought this game at all.

  • @naut7845
    @naut7845 2 місяці тому +3

    Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League didn’t even sell enough copies or have enough of a fanbase to be considered canon. Canon isn’t decided by what company or publisher can fork over the most money to buy the IP and assign it to whoever. For example; lots of people consider Disney’s Star Wars to be a fanfic because they fundamentally don’t care for nor understand the IP. Canon is decided by the fanbase overall. No one considers this crap canon lmao

  • @danielcastaneda4975
    @danielcastaneda4975 2 місяці тому

    14:22 who are you imitating , nakeyjakey ? stop , be yourself . Cringe

  • @danielcastaneda4975
    @danielcastaneda4975 2 місяці тому

    Wokesteady it is now

  • @Sagegabs
    @Sagegabs 2 місяці тому

    Boring. True but boring.

  • @Jammsbro1
    @Jammsbro1 2 місяці тому

    I had to stop this. The constant moving camera and putting you into ALMOST EVERY SHOT does not work. It was so off putting that it became the focus of the video and not what you were actually saying. Having some guy sit on a windowsill with a camera moving like you are on a boat with rapid edits is not a good video style for viewers.