Thank you for making this! Hard to believe the game has been played since before UA-cam existed, but there was no video explaining how to play until now!
Appreciate you making this. Friends wanted to play today and it served as an easy primer for me. I’ll let you know how well prepared I was after our session.
@@discard-dead Oh, I should probably ask you: I am planning on getting the fifth edition box from 🐈⬛ Black Chantry. Do you recommend I get the New Blood decks to start with? The New Blood decks don't seem to differ all that much from the ones included in the fifth edition box, it seems.
@@discard-dead We actually played our first game today, because we couldn't wait 'till Halloween. And it was a lot of fun! We played using the New Blood decks (4 players). (I played Tremere.) And I didn't really have any rules questions while playing the game. (I did watch your video, and I read the rule book and a quick guide with some examples of actions and combat.) It was a lot of fun but of course we didn't really know our decks or what we were doing strategy wise :p
Not to harp on about it, but I would prefer a lower volume music too, or no music during most of the rules explaining. It is fitting and great, just a bit distracting.
Great guide! Very clear and easy to understand. Slight correction on the sample combat you shared on 30:38. Kathy does not go to torpor for taking 2 damage at 2 blood. She only gets wounded if she takes another point of damage. Combat should have ended with Kathy tapped in the ready region with zero blood (and must hunt in the next minion phase).
Thanks for the video, a really detailed and complete guide to the rules. I personally don't mind reading a rulebook, but I can imagine this perfect for people that learn better by watching a video. One small thing: The music is beautiful and on theme, but I would have preferred a less constant drone of the music. Having it at the start and at the end for example, would leave more room to listen to the explanations a little better, but maybe that is just me.
Thank you for explaining this game! My issue with V:tes is that it was never streamlined or modernized. It's still stuck in a 90s era rule glout, which had it's charm, but as well it's drawback. A new design, action window, template, and rulebook could make the game even better. I definitely see alot of potential in here, from Diplomacy even to Cosmic Encounter as a contender.
Thanks! I agree in part in regards to the convolution of the rule set, but as is the case with a lot of 90’s era tcgs, the design of its mechanics make it tricky to sorta streamline without… damaging the original feel of the game, I feel.
Can I play JYHAD and V:TES cards together I have two JYHAD the eternal struggle starter decks and one V:TES anthology I pack and was looking to play with some friends for the first time. Which should I buy more packs of?
I would probably go for the V:tES editions if you can; they sorta streamlined the cards aesthetically in some ways and made the text a little clearer to read. But you can mix Jyhad and VtES cards if you want, as they still do the same thing.
True enough in a sense, though it is being printed as sets. The ‘classical’ trading card aspect - randomised boosters - however is not part of their model as they have taken a ‘living card game’ approach. The ‘dead’ part is only because it it no longer being printed by the original and successor companies who produced and marketed it as a TCG.
@@discard-dead BC is the original successor. They are a group of people who were originally in various development and organizational roles in the game. It is still backed fully by the owner of the IP, Paradox Studios.
I took a look at their site and the (so far) printings of cards they offer. As someone that owned a batch of early (Jyhad) cards, very little or none of it felt familiar. A great initiative though, to keep alive or revitalize a game that has no active printing before this anymore. I wonder if the same will happen to other discontinued card games.
Can you cover missed blocks? From my understanding, let's say a vampire attempts a bleed. The defender attempts the block, the bleeding vampire gets +1 stealth. The opposing player cannot match the intercept, so the vampire gets through. However, from my understanding, another block attempt can be made by a separate vampire. My question is, does the stealth from the first block attempt stay on the bleeding vampire or do you have to "start over?" Meaning stealth/ intercept are both set to zero and the stealth/ intercept back and forth happens again? Or am I totally misreading and misunderstanding that separate block attempts can be made against a single acting vampire?
Hey thanks for asking. My understanding is that the Stealth modifiers are modifying the action, not the vampire and so remain until either the action is resolved or the minion is blocked. So if a previous attempt to block fails and another minion tries to block, the stealth modifiers remain in place. Hope it helps 🧛♂
@@discard-dead that was my understanding too, a few of the people I've played with in the past explained it as the vampires start over. I was like what's the point in playing stealth cards since you can just fail on purpose then attempt another block immediately and have my stealth back at zero? I read it as you explained, it makes me feel better knowing I understood it correctly.
Thanks for this. Can you tell me where in the rulebook it says that the play order moves to the player on your left? I've been assuming that, but I can't actually find it anywhere.
When you look at the turn sequence it states that play order is clockwise. It’s on page 4 of the V:tES 5th edition book or page 19 of the original Jyhad booklet, under ‘12. What you can do on your turn.’
@discard-dead if you need help with that video, just LMK. I played that game at a competitive level for a good while. The cards themselves are easy enough to find on ebay and things like that. Just try to get things from the latest editions (but before FFG bought the rights)
Thank you for making this! Hard to believe the game has been played since before UA-cam existed, but there was no video explaining how to play until now!
Thanks so much! Plenty of discussions and plays and deck techs but I saw a void and tried to fill it it just a bit
And so many unboxings!
Appreciate you making this. Friends wanted to play today and it served as an easy primer for me. I’ll let you know how well prepared I was after our session.
Hey I’m really glad it helped! If it helps at least one person then it’s worth it 😁
How well prepared were you?
We're 4 new players who will play this year's Halloween. This will be very helpful, thank you.
Oh that sounds amazing! Please let me know how you go!
@@discard-dead Haha, I will if I remember to!
@@discard-dead Oh, I should probably ask you: I am planning on getting the fifth edition box from 🐈⬛ Black Chantry.
Do you recommend I get the New Blood decks to start with? The New Blood decks don't seem to differ all that much from the ones included in the fifth edition box, it seems.
@@lystic9392 yeah I would get them; they look great anyway
@@discard-dead We actually played our first game today, because we couldn't wait 'till Halloween. And it was a lot of fun! We played using the New Blood decks (4 players). (I played Tremere.) And I didn't really have any rules questions while playing the game. (I did watch your video, and I read the rule book and a quick guide with some examples of actions and combat.)
It was a lot of fun but of course we didn't really know our decks or what we were doing strategy wise :p
Could you please lower the music . It's hard to understand the narration. Otherwise you did a great job of explaining the game.
Hey thanks for the feedback I’ll keep it in mind for future videos
Not to harp on about it, but I would prefer a lower volume music too, or no music during most of the rules explaining. It is fitting and great, just a bit distracting.
Amazing!
Yeah i agree
Great guide! Very clear and easy to understand.
Slight correction on the sample combat you shared on 30:38. Kathy does not go to torpor for taking 2 damage at 2 blood. She only gets wounded if she takes another point of damage. Combat should have ended with Kathy tapped in the ready region with zero blood (and must hunt in the next minion phase).
Thanks for the video, a really detailed and complete guide to the rules. I personally don't mind reading a rulebook, but I can imagine this perfect for people that learn better by watching a video.
One small thing: The music is beautiful and on theme, but I would have preferred a less constant drone of the music. Having it at the start and at the end for example, would leave more room to listen to the explanations a little better, but maybe that is just me.
Yeah the music was a little problematic on this video but I’ve tried to make it easier on my later ones
@@discard-dead Alright, thanks for thinking ahead on this one! Looking forward to more videos from you.
Thank you for explaining this game! My issue with V:tes is that it was never streamlined or modernized. It's still stuck in a 90s era rule glout, which had it's charm, but as well it's drawback. A new design, action window, template, and rulebook could make the game even better. I definitely see alot of potential in here, from Diplomacy even to Cosmic Encounter as a contender.
Thanks! I agree in part in regards to the convolution of the rule set, but as is the case with a lot of 90’s era tcgs, the design of its mechanics make it tricky to sorta streamline without… damaging the original feel of the game, I feel.
Rivals attempted to do this. But I hear the main complaint about that game is its rules and exceptions to rules XD
Can I play JYHAD and V:TES cards together I have two JYHAD the eternal struggle starter decks and one V:TES anthology I pack and was looking to play with some friends for the first time. Which should I buy more packs of?
I would probably go for the V:tES editions if you can; they sorta streamlined the cards aesthetically in some ways and made the text a little clearer to read. But you can mix Jyhad and VtES cards if you want, as they still do the same thing.
This game isn't dead it is still in print by Black Chantry.
True enough in a sense, though it is being printed as sets. The ‘classical’ trading card aspect - randomised boosters - however is not part of their model as they have taken a ‘living card game’ approach. The ‘dead’ part is only because it it no longer being printed by the original and successor companies who produced and marketed it as a TCG.
@@discard-dead BC is the original successor. They are a group of people who were originally in various development and organizational roles in the game. It is still backed fully by the owner of the IP, Paradox Studios.
@@heysteev oh cool, thanks man, I didn’t realise that.
I took a look at their site and the (so far) printings of cards they offer. As someone that owned a batch of early (Jyhad) cards, very little or none of it felt familiar. A great initiative though, to keep alive or revitalize a game that has no active printing before this anymore. I wonder if the same will happen to other discontinued card games.
Can you cover missed blocks? From my understanding, let's say a vampire attempts a bleed. The defender attempts the block, the bleeding vampire gets +1 stealth. The opposing player cannot match the intercept, so the vampire gets through. However, from my understanding, another block attempt can be made by a separate vampire.
My question is, does the stealth from the first block attempt stay on the bleeding vampire or do you have to "start over?" Meaning stealth/ intercept are both set to zero and the stealth/ intercept back and forth happens again?
Or am I totally misreading and misunderstanding that separate block attempts can be made against a single acting vampire?
Hey thanks for asking. My understanding is that the Stealth modifiers are modifying the action, not the vampire and so remain until either the action is resolved or the minion is blocked. So if a previous attempt to block fails and another minion tries to block, the stealth modifiers remain in place.
Hope it helps 🧛♂
@@discard-dead that was my understanding too, a few of the people I've played with in the past explained it as the vampires start over. I was like what's the point in playing stealth cards since you can just fail on purpose then attempt another block immediately and have my stealth back at zero? I read it as you explained, it makes me feel better knowing I understood it correctly.
Then again, my understanding could be at fault too haha, but yeah, it seems to totally defeat the purpose otherwise
Vampire never dies. It just goes into torpor in some regions.
Thanks for this.
Can you tell me where in the rulebook it says that the play order moves to the player on your left? I've been assuming that, but I can't actually find it anywhere.
When you look at the turn sequence it states that play order is clockwise. It’s on page 4 of the V:tES 5th edition book or page 19 of the original Jyhad booklet, under ‘12. What you can do on your turn.’
@@discard-dead Much appreciated!
Would you please add L5R (AEG) to the queue?
@@nerd_mor yeah absolutely. I’ll see what I can pick up
@discard-dead if you need help with that video, just LMK. I played that game at a competitive level for a good while.
The cards themselves are easy enough to find on ebay and things like that. Just try to get things from the latest editions (but before FFG bought the rights)
@@nerd_mor yeah for me it would be more about getting some pre-ffg stuff, like sealed starter decks and booster boxes
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Great work. Thanks for it!
just one suggestion: articulate the words better and speak a little slower, because foreigners are also watching.
Annoying music that overpowers the dialogue. Unwatchable.
Thanks for the feedback. I’ve made the music less prominent in subsequent videos for this reason. Have a great day!