I think he is difficult to use right. He has to go up against magical beings to threaten him with anything more than a temporary beatdown. So to me it seems he is in situations where he is underpowered or overpowered but rarely just right.
The Ghost Rider in the first comics was originally created by THE God and could only be killed by him, as every comic character they changed it over time
I loved the deliveries when Ghost Rider unleashed Zarathos, "You Will All Die SSSCREAMING" and of course the kill line "LOBO OF ZARNIA, YOUR SINS ARE INNUMERABLE! I AM HERE TO REAP VENGEANCE UPON YOUR SOUL!" So Cool
@@CaptainCFalcon bro Lobo interrupted him Twice, with the line and the Penance Stare, and in one gell swoop finished the Line, the Stare, and the Snack
I know they keep acting like Lobo can kill anything just because he can beat Superman. In multiple incarnations the Ghost Rider is either an Angel or a demon and as we just saw he DESTROYED Lobo completely
The Ghost Rider is criminally underused and undervalued by Marvel. He’s one of the most hardcore bad asses in all of comics. Not just Marvel, ALL comics
He could be a great tv show or movie if done right. But they need to lean into the darkness and not be afraid of it gets R rating. Though don’t think not HAS to be R to be good 😅
A few fun facts! As noted in the video, Lobo HAS a red lantern ring, but he probably can't used it. This is because while the red lanterrns are fueled by rage, it is a very specific kind of rage, not just anger in general; their anger is fueled by loss, despair and grief that demands someone suffer for the evil they have done. Lobo comes off as emotionally immature in a lot of ways, and he just doesn't have the kind of rage that can fuel a broken, damaged heart. It's brought up a few times here that during the events of World War Hulk, Ghost Rider fought Hulk. The circumstances bear some noting; at that time, the Green Scar (the incarnation of the Hulk seen there; powerful, intelligent and deeply embittered by betrayal from his superhero friends) had lived a happy life on the world of Sakaar and liberated its people, until the ship he was exiled on exploded and killed the world. Believing the superheroes of Earth had done this on purpose or carelessness, Hulk returned to Earth to take revenge on everyone, where Ghost Rider fought him. The penance stare didn't affect him, because Ghost Rider judged that Hulk was IN THE RIGHT and thus Earth deserved whatever Hulk dealt out. (It helps that Hulk was specifically trying to make them feel the same pain he had, rather than just blindly lashing out.) Anyway the moral of the story is that Hulk's life is endless misery and Ghost Rider specifically empathized with him.
The Next DEATH BATTLE is coming on Oct 23 which happening is on Monday. Only 2 days left, Its Gojo VS Makima (Jujutsu Kaisen VS Chainsaw Man). Both Animes Series is about Cursed Spirit & Devils which is pretty much why its happening for Halloween. And Both characters are really POPULAR recently.
A slight side track but within the realm; could you consider creating a reaction tribute to the late and amazing Kevin Conroy? On November 15th will be the first anniversary of his death. He was the sole reason I got into acting. I have a voice acting background and there are some preconceived notions that it's not as demanding as regular acting; but the vocal training itself and perfecting the craft may take more time than any acting school. l feel like he's a bit underrated as Batman (ditto Mark Hamill as Joker) and even non existent in the conversation when the motion pictures are brought up. PS. You almost saw me as Leon in those new Resident Evil games :)
@@jefferyoneill1 It's an alien space/time ship with a near infinite amount of space inside it... that just happens to look like a 1950's police box. You know, pretty standard.
I love this battle ,lobo is one of my favorite DC characters but I knew the stare was his undoing cause he knows he doing wrong,but a side note Ghost rider has tried his stare on the punisher but cause Frank saw no sin in cleaning up his streets there was no guilt orf sin to hurt him freaked Johnny tf out.
That Punisher instance has been deemed non-canon, they had not clearly defined the rules of the Penance Stare at the time. This is even addressed in the DB video; the Penance Stare worked on Punisher when it was used again later.
So they say he ripped through entire armies of heaven and hell but 1 angel can beat him? Ya he should have stomped ghost rider because and they literally say he went through an army of him
I love your reactions and you both but I love how you 2 and a lot of others never put together ghost rider has powers specifically designed to destroy souls
i just want to say that before this episode i literally only heard of both of these characters through the lego games... so uh... you can understand my confusion listening to the analysis realising that these characters were in lego games
The Main Man always delivers! XD I recomend you guy to check out The Lobo Paramilitary Christmas Special (2002), one of the best shortfilms ever made, it's on youtube and it's glorious!
Hm, nice Death Battle, i like this one. I hope you do Chuck Norris vs Segata Sanshiro at some point. Also, i hope you do the Amazing Digital Circus Pilot at some point too.
The Ghost Rider vs WWH fight that the talked about, they kind of got wrong. When it happened it was Johnny Blaze that was in control and when he lost, Zarathos took over
It was obvious Ghost Rider is gonna win. If Mephisto can fight GALACTUS the planet eater on equal footing, then Ghost Rider that manages to beat Mephisto is obviously even stronger. Lobo might be powerful, but he ain't cosmic level powerful like Galactus. Lobo is at most Superman level powerful, able to obliterate PLANETS. But Galactus and Mephisto managed to obliterate GALAXIES. That's the difference in their scale of power between Ghost Rider and Lobo.
The thing they seem to forget is that Lobo was essentially the OG Deadpool. Comic relief and did a bunch of tom-fuckery when when it came to 4th wall breaking. Should of given Lobo the edge and the win.
The penance stair works literally on a soul level not even lobo is by passing that the only reason he is alive is the ban on him that's all but if he really got him with it GR always wins in the end
ghost rider is legit too OP if we are being honest here. One time when he went against thanos the rider said "penance." Thanos thought he meant the penance stare but the rider said "who said anything about a stare?" and straight up obliterated thanos right then and there
I feel like you should go back to anonymous betting on a flash card with the addition of money betting. The issue with the current system is the other's bet amount influencing your choice and bet.
@@michaelgreenwood3413 and how is that supposed to be impressive ? He still gets washed by characters like toaa, toba, the presence, lucifer, michael, elaine, pre-retcon beyond and a lot of other characters
I don't think it was mentioned, but the Penance Stare doesn't work on Punisher either because he has no remorse for his actions. I'm not joking. That actually happened.
I think Lobo should've won. They made Ghost Rider wining by destroying Lobo's soul, but Lobo can survive without a soul and he doesn't care what happens to it. Like, in Lobo (1993) #22, Lobo sold his soul to the demon Neron to get a song out of his head 😂😂
I mean, say it all you want but Lobo has been beaten by weaker people than Ghost Rider before. And Ghost Rider isn't a hero that let's their opponents live. Lobo surely could have overpowered Ghost Rider but the second the hellfire started hurting Lobo's soul, Lobo most likely would realize he's in actual danger and would have ran to find a way to beat him later. But whether GR would give him that chance is a different matter
I still don't have any idea how the killing blow happened. I know the animation doesn't decide the winner but since Lobo has no guilt, the stare shouldn't have worked on him at all. I still don't know how they thought that would function.
@@MeltyVampireBut didn't they say that you needed to feel at least some semblance of guilt for that attack to work? And that's why it didn't work on Thanos?
@@BJGvideos No. You can still feel the pain and anguish and emotional duress of those you've harmed. Those feelings are still valid, and he would stil feel them.
This one I very much disagree with, considering the pennant star wouldn't work on lobo considering he feels no remorse for his actions and wouldn't be affected by it since he literally went to hell and enjoyed the torture. He fought actual gods in heaven and killed 5th dimensional imps, which already put him at a level above ghost rider. He's also survived being blasted by God and hellfire from etrigan, which burns the mind, body, and soul. He even rewrote his own narrative. Lobo was definitely the winner here.
Ghost Rider is basically like the physical embodiment of the phrase "f*ck around and find out."
Fun fact: Lobo was Stan Lee’s favorite DC character
He also said lobo had the most potential of the DC characters.
Really rip man man was really a goat a living legend and gave me my favorite superhero rip
Absolutely based
@@robertgandy9792Who is your absolute favourite superhero?
@NisarKhan-jm1uh lobo the main man himself
Ghost Rider is one of the coolest, yet most underutilised characters in all of Marvel tbh
I think he is difficult to use right. He has to go up against magical beings to threaten him with anything more than a temporary beatdown. So to me it seems he is in situations where he is underpowered or overpowered but rarely just right.
@@cheeseburger12couldn't agree more
Funny cosmic ghost rider pissed on thanos face
The Ghost Rider in the first comics was originally created by THE God and could only be killed by him, as every comic character they changed it over time
@@nikkimiddlekillsday5161 not entirely. that still applies.
I loved the deliveries when Ghost Rider unleashed Zarathos, "You Will All Die SSSCREAMING" and of course the kill line "LOBO OF ZARNIA, YOUR SINS ARE INNUMERABLE! I AM HERE TO REAP VENGEANCE UPON YOUR SOUL!" So Cool
That last one was extra salty cause it was interrupted in the beginning of the fight lmao.
Ghost Rider was just so fucking *_done_* with Lobo lmfao.
@@CaptainCFalcon bro Lobo interrupted him Twice, with the line and the Penance Stare, and in one gell swoop finished the Line, the Stare, and the Snack
It wasn't that angels and demons couldn't kill Lobo, is that they don't want to deal with his shit and therefore banned him from the afterlife.
I know they keep acting like Lobo can kill anything just because he can beat Superman. In multiple incarnations the Ghost Rider is either an Angel or a demon and as we just saw he DESTROYED Lobo completely
The Ghost Rider is criminally underused and undervalued by Marvel. He’s one of the most hardcore bad asses in all of comics. Not just Marvel, ALL comics
And one of the most powerful
Fun fact, the guy who voices Lobo in this also voiced Dr. Wheelo in the DBZ Abridged World’s Strongest.
Was cheering Ghost Rider the entire time of the fight.
Flaming skulls will never not be cool. ❤️💀🔥
I agree with you, my friend
And now you know why Ghostrider is effectively banned from Marvel movies. He's ridiculously POWERFUL by their standards.
He could be a great tv show or movie if done right. But they need to lean into the darkness and not be afraid of it gets R rating. Though don’t think not HAS to be R to be good 😅
@@DefinitelyNotDefinitive2 I mean... Ghost Rider without and R rating doesn't really make sense if you wanna create a good media.
Jason Mamoa is Aquaman but acts more like Lobo
@AngiraBluyeah that’s what I was thinking the other day and I’ve seen that somewhere
@AngiraBluThe Tribal Chief...now the Main Man
And looks more like Lobo.
Nah the only actor who looks like Lobo is Danny Trejo... he looks evil and masculine as hell like Lobo
That's why a lot of people are trying to convince Momoa to play Lobo
A few fun facts! As noted in the video, Lobo HAS a red lantern ring, but he probably can't used it. This is because while the red lanterrns are fueled by rage, it is a very specific kind of rage, not just anger in general; their anger is fueled by loss, despair and grief that demands someone suffer for the evil they have done. Lobo comes off as emotionally immature in a lot of ways, and he just doesn't have the kind of rage that can fuel a broken, damaged heart.
It's brought up a few times here that during the events of World War Hulk, Ghost Rider fought Hulk. The circumstances bear some noting; at that time, the Green Scar (the incarnation of the Hulk seen there; powerful, intelligent and deeply embittered by betrayal from his superhero friends) had lived a happy life on the world of Sakaar and liberated its people, until the ship he was exiled on exploded and killed the world. Believing the superheroes of Earth had done this on purpose or carelessness, Hulk returned to Earth to take revenge on everyone, where Ghost Rider fought him. The penance stare didn't affect him, because Ghost Rider judged that Hulk was IN THE RIGHT and thus Earth deserved whatever Hulk dealt out. (It helps that Hulk was specifically trying to make them feel the same pain he had, rather than just blindly lashing out.) Anyway the moral of the story is that Hulk's life is endless misery and Ghost Rider specifically empathized with him.
Anyone else die a little when they referred to the tardis as a bill and Ted referrence
Glad I’m not the only one, I’d be interested to see them react to doctor who at some point.
One of the most underrated parts of this episode (at least in my opinion) is the song. That guitar solo goes unnecessarily hard.
You could have done Leon Kennedy Vs. Frank West as a Spooktober matchup
Exactly what I was thinking.
Can't wait till Momoa plays Lobo in live action.
I wonder how he would handle the cigar smoking 🤔
Me too
Ghost Rider is my favorite Anti-Hero in comics followed by Hellboy!
The Next DEATH BATTLE is coming on Oct 23 which happening is on Monday. Only 2 days left, Its Gojo VS Makima (Jujutsu Kaisen VS Chainsaw Man). Both Animes Series is about Cursed Spirit & Devils which is pretty much why its happening for Halloween. And Both characters are really POPULAR recently.
A slight side track but within the realm; could you consider creating a reaction tribute to the late and amazing Kevin Conroy? On November 15th will be the first anniversary of his death. He was the sole reason I got into acting. I have a voice acting background and there are some preconceived notions that it's not as demanding as regular acting; but the vocal training itself and perfecting the craft may take more time than any acting school. l feel like he's a bit underrated as Batman (ditto Mark Hamill as Joker) and even non existent in the conversation when the motion pictures are brought up. PS. You almost saw me as Leon in those new Resident Evil games :)
This fight was insane ;_;
If you’re looking for more Halloween episodes, Venom vs Crona is pretty spoopy
I'd also want to add Leon Kennedy Vs. Frank West.
Spoopy
Bill and Ted? BILL AND F***ING TED?! That was the TARDIS from Doctor Who!
8:44 "Bill and Ted?"
Guys... please, that's the TARDIS, from Doctor Who. How can you not know that?
I've never even SEEN Doctor Who, and I still recognize the TARDIS, though I don't know what exactly it is capable of
@@jefferyoneill1 It's an alien space/time ship with a near infinite amount of space inside it... that just happens to look like a 1950's police box.
You know, pretty standard.
@@Hawk_of_Battle Disguise system broke and The Doctor, seems to be, didn`t really give a crap about it.
Not gonna lie when you smile you look like Patrick Bateman
😁 🔪 😇
I love this battle ,lobo is one of my favorite DC characters but I knew the stare was his undoing cause he knows he doing wrong,but a side note Ghost rider has tried his stare on the punisher but cause Frank saw no sin in cleaning up his streets there was no guilt orf sin to hurt him freaked Johnny tf out.
That Punisher instance has been deemed non-canon, they had not clearly defined the rules of the Penance Stare at the time. This is even addressed in the DB video; the Penance Stare worked on Punisher when it was used again later.
@@ThatSamoanGuy yeah. the penance stares ability has often been mucked around with but they finally solved it later.
Bethany looked horrified by Lobo 😅
Did someone say Hercules vs Son Wukong? Thats a great Death Battle. . .Maybe they should watch that next
So they say he ripped through entire armies of heaven and hell but 1 angel can beat him? Ya he should have stomped ghost rider because and they literally say he went through an army of him
I love your reactions and you both but I love how you 2 and a lot of others never put together ghost rider has powers specifically designed to destroy souls
i just want to say that before this episode i literally only heard of both of these characters through the lego games... so uh... you can understand my confusion listening to the analysis realising that these characters were in lego games
How about Thor vs Vegeta. It's a fun Death Battle. Or maybe Apocalypse vs Black Adam
Loved the reaction. It really seemed like Lobo was going to win! Next time, don't cop out on your betting though!
Well Makima vs Gojo may be a very Halloweeny battle alsince it's evil curses vs literal devils
The Main Man always delivers! XD
I recomend you guy to check out The Lobo Paramilitary Christmas Special (2002), one of the best shortfilms ever made, it's on youtube and it's glorious!
We need a new Ghost Rider movie man
Agents of shield was a waste for Robbie Reyes, he did great though but they nerfed the hell out of him just so he could hangout with shield agents
Basically, Lobo was stronger but Ghost Rider had more hacks.
Bros name explains his comment after seeing Lobo get his ass beat.
@@big-nate4583Making a lot of assumptions right now...
I just noticed Grimace for the first time!!😂
for half a second I thought that dog was a goat.. was like "Wtf, random goat?" and then it clicked -_-
anyways, happy Halloween! (Albeit a bit early)
20:18 so cool
Lobo knew about the Grimace Shake before we did… Man was trying to save us.
Hm, nice Death Battle, i like this one.
I hope you do Chuck Norris vs Segata Sanshiro at some point.
Also, i hope you do the Amazing Digital Circus Pilot at some point too.
The Ghost Rider vs WWH fight that the talked about, they kind of got wrong. When it happened it was Johnny Blaze that was in control and when he lost, Zarathos took over
Yeah when the host is in control he's weaker and tamer but when Zarathos takes control it's a WHOLE different story
I'm having a weird case of dejon mustard... Didn't they already do this?
When you can, you should do the death battle Optimus prime versus Gundam
This was a good reaction and do Black widow vs Widow maker next.
I mean, given how evil and psychopathic dolphins are, I'm not surprised he'd take a liking to them
It was obvious Ghost Rider is gonna win. If Mephisto can fight GALACTUS the planet eater on equal footing, then Ghost Rider that manages to beat Mephisto is obviously even stronger. Lobo might be powerful, but he ain't cosmic level powerful like Galactus. Lobo is at most Superman level powerful, able to obliterate PLANETS. But Galactus and Mephisto managed to obliterate GALAXIES. That's the difference in their scale of power between Ghost Rider and Lobo.
Where did you get that shirt? That's a nice green.
so I was wondering what happened to the SAO abridged series on your channel I can't find those reactions anymore
As per the new comics his soul cant be destroyed either hes just immortal now
Atomic Skull 💀 is DC's version of The Ghost 👻 Rider
Please do Venom vs Crona
The Main Man was robbed! ROBBED!
The thing they seem to forget is that Lobo was essentially the OG Deadpool. Comic relief and did a bunch of tom-fuckery when when it came to 4th wall breaking. Should of given Lobo the edge and the win.
Yess new death battle
They got 6hings wrong, or omitted for GR. Only God himself can kill a rider, and they gain whatever power is needed to catch their target.
"Ornery" means ill tempered and difficult to work with
Its not really spoopy but Gojo vs Makima is going to come out soon and it will probably be one of the best fights yet
The penance stair works literally on a soul level not even lobo is by passing that the only reason he is alive is the ban on him that's all but if he really got him with it GR always wins in the end
Am I crazy or did they do this battle before?
Ghost rider is a certified badass he defeated the avengers and beated thor multiple times
ghost rider is legit too OP if we are being honest here. One time when he went against thanos the rider said "penance." Thanos thought he meant the penance stare but the rider said "who said anything about a stare?" and straight up obliterated thanos right then and there
hey why did you guys skip SAO abridged this week?
I'd want to see your reaction on Goku Black and Reverse Flash
Aizen vs Madara
My favorite comic book anti-hero is Spawn from Image Comics.
Here's my top 3 comic book anti-heroes
1. Spawn
2. Deadpool
3. John Constantine
I feel like you should go back to anonymous betting on a flash card with the addition of money betting. The issue with the current system is the other's bet amount influencing your choice and bet.
Pls react to death battle spongebob vs aqua man
Your background curtain has been pulled away! The illusion has been broken!
YOU GUYS ARENT ACTUALLY ALWAYS ON THE HOLLYWOOD CARPET!!!!!
If you guys ever watch Megatron vs freza just know it's wrong
In the old Fantastic Four Cartoon Ghostrider took down Galactus
They didn't both lose, Lobo lost
Clean and sober
I believe Ghost Rider solos both Marvel and DC if the writers don't decide to randomly introduce a new weakness.
@deathstar9137 Lobo doesn't have to die, just cease to exist.
Yeah no
He would still get evicerated with no difficulty whatsoever by any top tier
@@Zenkai-9k He can come back from that. He was literally one of the potential "defeats the Hulk" choices during World War Hulk because of that.
@@michaelgreenwood3413 and how is that supposed to be impressive ?
He still gets washed by characters like toaa, toba, the presence, lucifer, michael, elaine, pre-retcon beyond and a lot of other characters
@@michaelgreenwood3413 ghost rider is insanely overrated and he's fodder to all the characters I mentioned (and way more)
See you should have stuck with your initial reaction, you'd have been up by $35. It was the holy weapon caveat that caused me to vote Ghost Rider.
I’m confused, how did they both lose? ghost rider obviously won. She should’ve given the $20 😭
Lobo should've won
Nah
I don't think it was mentioned, but the Penance Stare doesn't work on Punisher either because he has no remorse for his actions. I'm not joking. That actually happened.
If they went that route lobo wouldn’t of died either since he has no remorse obviously lol
It worked on him later, which they mention in one of the black boxes
They said the stare worked later.
I think Lobo should've won. They made Ghost Rider wining by destroying Lobo's soul, but Lobo can survive without a soul and he doesn't care what happens to it.
Like, in Lobo (1993) #22, Lobo sold his soul to the demon Neron to get a song out of his head 😂😂
Oh no the episode that people thinks is accurate even though logo has survived etrigans hellfire
Soul devouring and the penance stare still work. They got it right
I still think lobo wins
@@AmericanBrit9834 no they don't cause he doesn't Hava a soul and enjoys pain
@@whitetigerboi831 meaningless opinion
@@michaelraymon111 Source? Also you're a dick for that comment on whitetiger.
Ohhh boy. It's this DB episode. The one everyone believe is facts. Lobo should've won
Indeed lobo should have won
I mean, say it all you want but Lobo has been beaten by weaker people than Ghost Rider before. And Ghost Rider isn't a hero that let's their opponents live. Lobo surely could have overpowered Ghost Rider but the second the hellfire started hurting Lobo's soul, Lobo most likely would realize he's in actual danger and would have ran to find a way to beat him later. But whether GR would give him that chance is a different matter
I still don't have any idea how the killing blow happened. I know the animation doesn't decide the winner but since Lobo has no guilt, the stare shouldn't have worked on him at all. I still don't know how they thought that would function.
they said in the podcast after the battle that what basically happened was Lobo was destroyed and his soul eaten into nothingness.
@@MeltyVampireBut didn't they say that you needed to feel at least some semblance of guilt for that attack to work? And that's why it didn't work on Thanos?
@@BJGvideos No. You can still feel the pain and anguish and emotional duress of those you've harmed. Those feelings are still valid, and he would stil feel them.
@@BJGvideos I mean the animation is its own thing. I just know specifically they said he had the power to destroy his entire soul itself.
@@ThatSamoanGuy Well they said since Thanos enjoyed it then he was immune to the stare. Doesn't Lobo also enjoy it?
first!
This one I very much disagree with, considering the pennant star wouldn't work on lobo considering he feels no remorse for his actions and wouldn't be affected by it since he literally went to hell and enjoyed the torture. He fought actual gods in heaven and killed 5th dimensional imps, which already put him at a level above ghost rider. He's also survived being blasted by God and hellfire from etrigan, which burns the mind, body, and soul. He even rewrote his own narrative. Lobo was definitely the winner here.
Current canon dictates that remorse has no impact on whether the Penance Stare works.
@@JoeThomas-lu6fy Enjoying being tortured in hell does, the pennant stare wouldn't have any effect.
@@Auron1Roxas2 That's why I only corrected the bit about remorse.