I dived this wreck a month after it went down. I regretted it as it was basically a grave yard. As a sign of respect we were told not to go inside as 500 souls, maybe more went down with it. There were walkmans and suitcases littering the sea bed. A sobering heart wrenching experience.
@@marcothorsen950A month the corpses would not be as rotted as you’d think, particularly in those colder Baltic waters. They’d be decomposed, but still very recognizable
To say any ship is unsinkable is a slap in the face of reality...if it floats it can sink . The same with airplanes...what goes up must come down . God Bless to all who lost their lives,May they rest in peace.
4:28 - Underwater for 30 years, but the plastic is still there, and still as colourful as the day it was made. I'm more surprised that all of the fabrics are still intact. All of those rugs and even some clothes, somehow still there.
From Scuba life: History of the MV Salem Express Since it was transporting passengers returning from the annual pilgrimage to Mecca, the ferry was filled to capacity, with estimates of people on board at around 650. Only 180 passengers were rescued after the wreck, but the total loss of lives is a point of dispute. The official number is 470, a figure that was reached by subtracting the number of survivors from the maximum number of passengers allowed on board. This figure has long been disputed, as it’s common for ferries in the area to sail over capacity during the pilgrimage season. Some reports have indicated that there may have been as many as 1,000
Anyone who has visited this area of the world during peak season knows full well that the ships are packed well beyond "official capacity" which effectively has no meaning there to begin with , and is generally an unenforced technicality. I would be surprised if there werent more than 1,000 aboard when it went down ,although it is easy to see why both the Owners as well as the Govt want to use the much lower " official" number.
So peaceful, and serene despite the tragedy that unfolded there. Some of the belongins still preserved. Truly fascinating exploration, at one point I thought I saw a teddy bear 😢. May the victims Rest in Paradise 🙏
I hope someday when the war is over in the red sea, they could also dive in the redsea and in God's will somebody will find the MV TUTOR ship because the ship is lost somewhere in Eritrea June 12, 2024 and my father was the 2nd Engineer in MV TUTOR he was the only one missing and he was working in the engine room that time when the MV TUTOR was bomb by a missiles and he is still missing until now😢 our family believe that his remains is still in the part of the engine room in 2nd deck.
I'm still praying and hoping that someday that my dad remains will bring home to us, because our mother died year dec 2021 and now we lost our father who is working hard to support us💔😢
I am really surprised by the condition of the ship since it sank thirty-three years ago. It looks like it was down there longer, considering the amount of sea life on the wreck.
@@jimmycline4778 you'd be surprised at what can be revived. There's a channel called Jennings Motor sports that pushes to the limits what can be saved. Though of course in this case, there'll never be anybody dedicated enough to these inexpensive cars to try to retrieve them from the ocean floor.
They probably know pretty close how many were aboard if tickets had to be purchased prior to boarding. They will just never admit to it, for if they were actually overloaded it now becomes negligence in many countries... and negligence payouts are usually unlimited...
It true especially for the Andria Doria, many have died diving her wreck by getting tangled and stuck, an experienced and careful diver will be OK though.
No , any bodies external to the wreck would be moved away from the wreck site by the huge seas. There will have been many hundreds below decks when it went down. I neither wanted to see bodies either by accident or curiosity. I left the wreck for a dive on the reef instead.
Grave robbing is a sad fact, when the Costa Concordia sunk only a few days later the first grave robbers went in to steal valuables, even some divers from the dive teams working on refloating the wreck were arrested for stealing...
@@DerDrecksack87 that's disgusting. How can some people live with themselves. I'm not saying that to be witty. Honestly How do they look in a mirror? No shame. Terrible
@@movieforge01 grave robbers have been always around, i absolutely agree that its a despicable way of treating the memory of humans who passed away no matter how or where, but especially in cases like this where 99% of the things were just personal belongings like clothes, long since eroded electronics & bags, its not like this ship has carried gold bars. But still, last i heard almost nothing of the luggage remains as divers over the years took a bunch of "souvenirs". I think wrecks like these should be restricted from access for at least 50 years or until the last of the relatives have passed, they have no knowledge to offer like all the historic wrecks from hundreds of years ago, its just a tragedy that ppl dive because of the shock factor. Nevermind how dangerous these wrecks get that have cars & other heavy cargo pushing against rusting metal walls where ppl dive trough, cables & pipes posing a high risk of trapping, so i would highly advise against diving these sites unless somebody wants to join them in their watery grave. There are many recreational wrecks of ships that have been sunk on purpouse, there is no reason to disturb a mass grave except morbid curiosity.
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I was that excited when I saw a dogfish for the first time
what sort of a briefing a diver can get before diving into a wreck like this? like no touch to anything, no souvenirs, no swim near heavily dusted objects?
They went inside the wreck. That's disrespectful, in my opinion. I have dived the Salem Express. To me, it is okay as long as you ar respectful and don't enter the wreck. It is just like visiting a cemetery. A quiet, thoughtful place. But don't do anything to disturb the dead and the tranquility!
Well they ain't gonna clean up the Titanic it'll just collapse into one huge pile. There's thousands of shipwrecks around the globe. And many haven't been discovered yet aswell as planes.
give one single legit reason, and dont even try going with "it's disrespectfull" because, no, it's not, and leave religious nonsense out of it as well, since thats not a legit reason either.
Yet those run better and longer than a Ford! Had a Honda that I put on it's side in a snow storm. It didn't even knock the alignment out! I ended up putting over 500,000 miles on that car. I couldn't kill it. Change the oil on time and they will run forever! Can't really say that about American cars anymore. Also the salt in the water will have eat anything that is metal!
I dived this wreck a month after it went down. I regretted it as it was basically a grave yard. As a sign of respect we were told not to go inside as 500 souls, maybe more went down with it. There were walkmans and suitcases littering the sea bed. A sobering heart wrenching experience.
Can you please go more into detail? Does it mean you saw many bodies? (i do ask with respect)
I think the answer would of been yes.. Rotting half eaten corpses. A gruesome sight..
@@marcothorsen950A month the corpses would not be as rotted as you’d think, particularly in those colder Baltic waters. They’d be decomposed, but still very recognizable
Bet that Toyota still runs.
Not underwater though
And that Nissan too
Just needs air in the tires
A lil bit of wd40 and run
I'd disagree toyotas hate water them thing rust at a drop of water
Thank you for posting, and a special thank you for NOT putting irritating music over the footage.
Totally agree.
To say any ship is unsinkable is a slap in the face of reality...if it floats it can sink . The same with airplanes...what goes up must come down . God Bless to all who lost their lives,May they rest in peace.
4:28 - Underwater for 30 years, but the plastic is still there, and still as colourful as the day it was made. I'm more surprised that all of the fabrics are still intact. All of those rugs and even some clothes, somehow still there.
The plastic will be there for ever and most likely every thing else no sun light to break it down
Still sad the loss of life my condolences to the family's
Нет ультрафиолета поэтому пластик идеален
The rug could survive well if made from synthetic materials.
From Scuba life: History of the MV Salem Express
Since it was transporting passengers returning from the annual pilgrimage to Mecca, the ferry was filled to capacity, with estimates of people on board at around 650. Only 180 passengers were rescued after the wreck, but the total loss of lives is a point of dispute. The official number is 470, a figure that was reached by subtracting the number of survivors from the maximum number of passengers allowed on board. This figure has long been disputed, as it’s common for ferries in the area to sail over capacity during the pilgrimage season. Some reports have indicated that there may have been as many as 1,000
Anyone who has visited this area of the world during peak season knows full well that the ships are packed well beyond "official capacity" which effectively has no meaning there to begin with , and is generally an unenforced technicality. I would be surprised if there werent more than 1,000 aboard when it went down ,although it is easy to see why both the Owners as well as the Govt want to use the much lower " official" number.
Can I ask how it sank? I'm assuming it was the stern door coming loose?
I wouldn’t say strong images, but graphic in showing deterioration of the ship and contents. A really fine tour for us stuck on land.
So peaceful, and serene despite the tragedy that unfolded there. Some of the belongins still preserved. Truly fascinating exploration, at one point I thought I saw a teddy bear 😢. May the victims Rest in Paradise 🙏
I hope someday when the war is over in the red sea, they could also dive in the redsea and in God's will somebody will find the MV TUTOR ship because the ship is lost somewhere in Eritrea June 12, 2024 and my father was the 2nd Engineer in MV TUTOR he was the only one missing and he was working in the engine room that time when the MV TUTOR was bomb by a missiles and he is still missing until now😢 our family believe that his remains is still in the part of the engine room in 2nd deck.
Sorry for your loss.
I'm still praying and hoping that someday that my dad remains will bring home to us, because our mother died year dec 2021 and now we lost our father who is working hard to support us💔😢
Its the jews
@@ncklynsj the last position of the ship is known, isn’t it?
@@weltvonoben yes, they said the ship is somewhere in eritrea when the crew was rescued.
There's a used car lot up the street that would wash those vehicles and try to sell them ! 👊😎👍
I am really surprised by the condition of the ship since it sank thirty-three years ago. It looks like it was down there longer, considering the amount of sea life on the wreck.
In the personnel baggage section, it looks like some went thru some beyongings looking for valuables.
doubt a Without
Graverobbing. How awful.
@@Fuji086 You own nothing when you die fool
locks do rot, not inconceivable cases opened that way.
May god rest all of them souls.🙏🕊️
Sad story, but I bet those Toyota and Nissan will start at once when dried.
Lol It takes way more than that, but I highly doubt it since they’ve been down their 30 years! Engines are probably un rebuildable!
Hard to kill a Toyota! 🙂
@@jimmycline4778 in Africa they will make them last for decades
@@jimmycline4778 you'd be surprised at what can be revived. There's a channel called Jennings Motor sports that pushes to the limits what can be saved. Though of course in this case, there'll never be anybody dedicated enough to these inexpensive cars to try to retrieve them from the ocean floor.
They probably know pretty close how many were aboard if tickets had to be purchased prior to boarding. They will just never admit to it, for if they were actually overloaded it now becomes negligence in many countries... and negligence payouts are usually unlimited...
deffently peeple have been diving a takingstuff by the looks of it
100% open baggage.
Grave Robbers...
Excellent Engish.
*English
Thanks for sharing
From my understanding, diving inside of shipwrecks can be more dangerous than cave diving due to all of the hazards 0_0
It true especially for the Andria Doria, many have died diving her wreck by getting tangled and stuck, an experienced and careful diver will be OK though.
Something ironic about a ghoulish thrill seeker floating among the corpses he hoped to sneak a peek at
Must have been a haunting dive.. Thanks for sharing
I need the front left turn signal on that nissan😂
His first name was the "Fred Scamaroni" . He was build here , in France , in 1968 .
Somebody took the front wheel off of the car. Thats craycray.
No , any bodies external to the wreck would be moved away from the wreck site by the huge seas. There will have been many hundreds below decks when it went down. I neither wanted to see bodies either by accident or curiosity. I left the wreck for a dive on the reef instead.
Would love to dive this wreck. Heard it was epic and looks epic in footage! The penetration inside looks class.
it is epic and very somber at the same time but definetely a wreck that one needs to dive. Hope you can make it soon.
@@andrecandrade兄弟05:53那辆在水底下的车车內应该有个屍体並且成白骨对么？
@@andrecandrade兄弟05:43那辆车是TOYOTA 么？
@@chuntikyeung7074 Yes, Toyota.
Every suitcase and bag opened. Underwater looting. Weird never really thought about that. I always think of ancient shipwrecks getting tossed.
Grave robbing is a sad fact, when the Costa Concordia sunk only a few days later the first grave robbers went in to steal valuables, even some divers from the dive teams working on refloating the wreck were arrested for stealing...
@@DerDrecksack87 that's disgusting. How can some people live with themselves. I'm not saying that to be witty. Honestly How do they look in a mirror? No shame. Terrible
@@movieforge01 grave robbers have been always around, i absolutely agree that its a despicable way of treating the memory of humans who passed away no matter how or where, but especially in cases like this where 99% of the things were just personal belongings like clothes, long since eroded electronics & bags, its not like this ship has carried gold bars. But still, last i heard almost nothing of the luggage remains as divers over the years took a bunch of "souvenirs". I think wrecks like these should be restricted from access for at least 50 years or until the last of the relatives have passed, they have no knowledge to offer like all the historic wrecks from hundreds of years ago, its just a tragedy that ppl dive because of the shock factor. Nevermind how dangerous these wrecks get that have cars & other heavy cargo pushing against rusting metal walls where ppl dive trough, cables & pipes posing a high risk of trapping, so i would highly advise against diving these sites unless somebody wants to join them in their watery grave.
There are many recreational wrecks of ships that have been sunk on purpouse, there is no reason to disturb a mass grave except morbid curiosity.
I was that excited when I saw a dogfish for the first time
I love Toyota's!! 🙂
what sort of a briefing a diver can get before diving into a wreck like this? like no touch to anything, no souvenirs, no swim near heavily dusted objects?
You got it down perfectly
Thanks for video very interesting dive
Glad you enjoyed it
why would they block areas with human remains rather than bring them to the surface?
Good question
because they want to hide how many actually perished as the ship was 100% guaranteed more then 2x over capacity.
What happened to the wheels on some of the cars?
The ones the pressure from the ocean collapsed the others most likely the rims and lug nuts rusted away and the tires floated
I believe the wheels on the car went round and round.
Robbed like all the cases left open.
@MajorT0m people like you make life worse for everyone
Crazy how rusty that Toyota and Nissan are, both would probably still run XD
I also have dived this wreck more than once it’s sad how Shem went down with so many lives lost tut tut
Documentario altamente istruttivo.
All because of impatience. Humans will never learn.
¿Porque hay maletas abiertas y vacías?
How it happened
Eu Vi Dizer Que Ainda Tem Corpos Nos Escombros...😢
We had the respect not to go inside hold. Shame on the divers.
would there still be skeletons intact ?
Yes and fully ambulatory due to microorganisms using them as a breeding ground.
Very scary 🥶
What incident was it…
Кто украл колесо с Ниссана?🤔
It's literally the first time ins my life I've seen this wreck what is it and what happend i don't get it ?
Typo in the title. She sank in 1991 not 1983.
Looks like toyota corona and nissan maxima
C34ローレルも有るじゃん...
cuted fish :3
def pillagers were there.
How deep is it?
100’ / 32 mt
@@andrecandrade just 32? are you sure about that? thats like 5 floor building
Wrecks are dangerous to dive on
Living is dangerous, but we all do it.
How? Prove it.
The proof is in the eating.
That was a NPC comment
Live a little buddy
They went inside the wreck. That's disrespectful, in my opinion. I have dived the Salem Express. To me, it is okay as long as you ar respectful and don't enter the wreck. It is just like visiting a cemetery. A quiet, thoughtful place. But don't do anything to disturb the dead and the tranquility!
they were respectful and didnt hurt a shitin thing
NISSAN MAXIMA😢😢 6:13
Кто-то спер колесо.
Time that humans clean up under water
Well they ain't gonna clean up the Titanic it'll just collapse into one huge pile. There's thousands of shipwrecks around the globe. And many haven't been discovered yet aswell as planes.
Eh
It's a grave. Keep out. Disrespectful.
You have never walked through a grave yard?
stop sithe the silly nonsense, it's not "disrespectful"
So is titanic but I want to see inside, its not disrespectful it's a great wat to learn more about the disasters.
no one should be diving there at all. wtf?
give one single legit reason, and dont even try going with "it's disrespectfull" because, no, it's not, and leave religious nonsense out of it as well, since thats not a legit reason either.
All that cheap TOYOTA steel rusted away. Ill never buy a Japan car!
😂😂😂
Yet those run better and longer than a Ford!
Had a Honda that I put on it's side in a snow storm. It didn't even knock the alignment out!
I ended up putting over 500,000 miles on that car. I couldn't kill it. Change the oil on time and they will run forever! Can't really say that about American cars anymore.
Also the salt in the water will have eat anything that is metal!
They will both probably start still though!
Deniz altında hiçbir çelik ne kadar sağlam olursa olsun fazla dayanamaz
Can't stand over three decades under salty water? Well, that's rubbish 🤣
6:37 just open the door ☝️🤓
Ship full of rags