Humanity is both cursed and blessed to have such a wide array of complex emotions. We struggle to decide what is right and what is necessary, and we second-doubt ourselves at every turn. The most difficult thing in this life is to come face to face with reality.
You make it sound like that we should just accept the truth and deal with it without actually forming our own standpoint from viewing all the perspectives and discussing with others. Of course this is what reality is, but it doesn't have to be that way if we work to change it.
Logica et ratio There's simply no other way other than to accept reality. Are you saying that there's a different way to live life productively and fully?
There's accepting reality, and then there's completely withdrawing due to accepting reality. It sounds like you're saying we should just accept the issue and try to completely avoid it, but I could be wrong.
Logica et ratio Yes, I'm saying we need to accept the issue, but I also said that we should come face to face with it regardless. It'd be wrong to run away from it, because reality is the one truth we can't escape from no matter what we do.
This wasn't a sad story. It wasn't even bittersweet. It was uncomfortable, in a beautiful and human way. I'm actually taken aback by this particular artist's animations.
+Liliputian07 I'm guessing you've never lived on a farm before. This rabbit is called food. You let the rabbit live, you die, then it dies. You have access to the internet, so I'm also assuming you have never been anywhere near starving TO DEATH. Maybe you skipped lunch once and were "hungry". This is a way of life. When you are the child of a farmer, you are one more mouth to feed. If you can find a way to feed yourself, you do it. I am taken aback by your ignorance.
+Liliputian07 I liked your original comment it was well said and I agree. However, I didn't enjoy your response to the overly preachy farmer quite as much. Especially from a traveled and learned person such as yourself. I thought your experiences would have taught you about tolerance towards limited or biased views. Stop and take a minute to choose how you want to act instead of reacting.
Liliputian07 What the fuck are you talking about? You just made a long winded light insult, in which you lied about being to Africa and yet you failed to address my comment, meaning that you are still wrong, and I am still right.
Liliputian07 I'm actually not a troll. I think you are a spoiled brat and you don't know what hardship is. Also, you keep failing to answer my original comment. You just word vomit everywhere.
i really really love how filmbilder challenges our brain to look for meaning eventhough some of their videos might not have any at all and is simply just a short film but either way, these videos are truly an art
but a rabbit could be a rabbit, a runt a runt a child a child and papa well just papa, but you do sound like you summed it up well, oh is that mama what a sexy slip of a lass she is. lol my mistake its uncle, well who can tell these days with non stereo gender types
This is a perfect parable of how society and tradition work and are forced onto the next generation. There are three runts, not one - the father, the son, the little rabbit. The father apparently did have to get through a similar test, in his youth. He has yielded, as did, reluctantly, his son. Very clever.
Growing up on a farm, I can really relate to this story. People like to distance themselves from the violence and pain of eating meat and outsource that pain; but we are still part of a part of the process. Farming/hunting is hard; the answer "quick" is good, but would be better coupled with "respect." What helps me to butcher chickens was realizing that they only live 3 years and often die in much 'slower' and more painful manners if not eaten; hawks, coyotes, old age; one could argue these are worse than human consumption.
3 years? okay did you just never let your chickens live past three because chickens can live up to ten years if you actually take care of them. one of my hens just died a few days ago and she was almost ten. not to mention one of my girls who lived to be 13. my general average seems to be 7-10 years. I'm not sure who told you they only live three years but that is very incorrect. even breeds meant for factory farms can live quite awhile if given the chance and if properly cared for. I ask mostly because I'm confused you'd think it was so low?beyond that I do think if you cant kill it yourself you shouldn't be eating meat and namely, making someone else do your dirty work for you to get it. most people are ignorant of what goes on to get that slab of pork to their table and I think that is just disappointing. I grew up in ranch country and I've seen just about all that their is as far as the farm industry goes, I can't personally be a part of or support that industry but I made my decision without ignorance. more people need to face their food and consider the very real process of what happens to make it. I have actually met a ton of people that thought meat was a type of plant or root. ._. I couldn't even comprehend that people would be so far removed they wouldn't know that meat was at least part of an animal. so I do agree with you there. but I will say if it was me or you in the place of the chicken, I'm guessing both of us would prefer to die of old age instead of being eaten by like an alien or something lol.
I was referring to wild fowl average lifespan, or average chicken. They can live much longer, but in a natural environment that never happens. Predators, diseases, harsh winters/drought, food source fluctuation. Jungle fowl etc are VERY lucky not to meet grim end by one year. So I view human raising of chickens, to cull some, sometimes, is not too bad a situation for them on a whole. Especially if I breed them to be wild and more feral. Quail, Turkey, Grouse, etc; only the very smart, vigorous, and lucky make it to 3+ years. Yeah, they can live to be 10+ sometimes, but that is ultra-rare in wild. Even in captivity if you don't manage roosters, you will have loss. I have seen people who want to keep "every chicken" and end up with abused hens and rooster fights all day long. That's not humane. Selling them to people who would raise them in some probably not so great conditions, fight them, etc. is not a good option. I would agree about preferring a peaceful 'old age death'. However, old age isn't really a cause of death; something deteriorates or gets imbalanced. Death from deterioration and imbalance is often horrible and prolonged. So if it was a chicken stroke or heart attack; maybe that's better; but not cancer or something degenerative. I like that many predators just grab chicken by head, shake, and its over that fast. When a hawk, or owl hits them in the head they are out cold instantly or it pops off. If they get hit, they were usually sleeping or didn't see it coming; so that's more humane i think. I guess the predators I don't like are feral cats, untrained dogs,yeti, weasels, etc;spp that waste food. Thus.. when I take a chicken, I try to take it like hawk. 99.9% of time, its a rooster, since some of my hens raise babies. Eating them is a good way to keep them from "attacking" girls and each other; its stressful and potentially lethal for hens and each other. I'm going to keep eating rooster and crow. You know what's much worse veal... but you have to raise animals before you understand why that practice exists; too few tits.
George Hickman Ah okay that makes more sense because I was going to say that was way off. Especially since you said you grew up in farm country I was just a little confused you would think the possible life span was so short. As far as keeping every chicken goes I agree that is completely inhumane and I have seen people do that as well. Usually they have absolutely no idea what they are doing with their chickens or don't actually care about their animals well being in general so I am completely against that. There are ways of keeping extra roosters humanly but in general most people are unwilling to actually go through the effort to do it and you end up with as you said, abused hens and fights all the time. And that's what I was saying about they can live a long time if you give them proper care. I don't see a situation like that as proper care at all, it's frankly just animal abuse if you let the situation get to that point because it's brutal on the hens and the roosters as well. A neighbor of mine had a great deal of success caponizing her roosters. Our vet in that town could to the operation with anesthetic so it wasn't that painful and wouldn't fail or kill the bird. She liked her Capons so much she ended up rescuing most of the extra roosters in town and keeping them in her flock. All but one or two of them ended up really calm and friendly and it completely stopped all the common rooster issues. It cost her allot per bird though and again the average person doesn't usually want to pay for that.but if we saw chickens as more it wouldn't seem like as big of a deal to pay for something like that. Farm animals aren't typically treated with the same respect as say a cat or a dog so people are too quick to buy Easter chicks then hock them to the nearest person when they get to big. That mind set really needs to change because it's not about the people it's about the animals that have to deal with our choices. My main goal in life is to help animals and ensure a good quality of life for them so don't get me wrong, my first concern is for their well being. I don't know you so I can't really confirm this but it does seem like from this we are on the same page with that, we just have different methods of solving that problem lol But as far as when they do start to get old and have issues, that is when you make the decision just like any responsible pet owner of like a dog or a cat, to do the humane thing and euthanize them. Often times it doesn't end up being that long or drawn out with chickens, at least in my experience. It seems like they will slow up for a few months and you know it's probably soon, or they may have a few really bad days and that's it. I've only had to put down one hen so far. It's usually pretty quick when chickens get to that point. You don't always even have time to think about it honestly. I feel like they go even quicker then a dog or a cat, as those two animals tend to have more lingering illnesses before they get the that point but yeah. My last hen who died was just fine in the morning and I'm pretty sure she actually did have a chicken heart attack in the afternoon. She had slowed up the last year but was very feisty still so I had a feeling her time was coming but it was a complete shock that day. I've not had a chicken get cancer or anything like that, one of them had arthritis but I put a pan of shallow water outside for her to wade in and that pretty much fixed that problem. I don't know if you have ever tried that with your chickens but they love having like two inches of water to stand in, especially in the summer. Haha but anyways XD Mostly again I just see it this way, there are lots of elderly people that are miserable and suffering with degenerative deceases but we don't cull people in their prime just because there is a chance they can get sick later on. In fact we won't even kill someone who would consent to die because they are in pain or suffering from said deceases. You may, or may not agree with me on this that's okay, but I don't see much if a difference from one animal to another or even a person to an animal. We are all just walking flesh bags at the end of the day, and I feel if I don't have to take another creatures life then I shouldn't take it. When an animal is in pain, or if I had to defend myself or survive of course I would take action and get the job done, but for me until it's at that point I just have a live and let live policy. Those are just my personal feelings on the issue its fine if you don't agree my point isn't to force you to take on my belief system. That would be, well, firstly very unproductive and secondly just kind of wrong to force my opinion on you. I just wanted to clarify why I have the stance on this issue that I do, so hopefully it at least makes sense to you. I do agree with your points on predation though and I also agree with your aggravation at the animals that waste the chicken after taking it. I guess I figure if they are going to take a chicken they should use all of it. That was a huge problem most people had in my last town. Allot of people let their dogs roam around (quite illegally) so if you didn't lock up your chickens they would go and rip up an entire flock just for the hell of it. It was devastating for some people, I was lucky enough to avoid a catastrophe like that though, thankfully. It got close one time and I had to drag a dog out of my coop before it got any of my chickens. That was a day that dog owner regretted I'll tell you that much XD While that can be a problem 90% of the veal raised in this country is specifically raised for that purpose or are commonly the reject male offspring of the mother. Calves meant for Veal are usually kept alive for a few weeks/months before slaughter to give them time to grow so lack of milk or access to utters isn't entirely the problem. It's a side of the veal issue, but it isn't the whole of it. There are smaller farms that slaughter young for that reason but in my experience that isn't the primary reason we have veal. besides if our goal wasn't simply the price tag on the end of the animal and instead just on their wellbeing it would be very easy to find substitutes to keep the extra lamb, calf, what ever alive regardless of the situation. All of the tools are at our finger tips but we simply choose not to use them. Personally I don't support the meat and dairy industry and apart from heritage breeding and preservation of domesticated breeds I don't see a reason to continue mass breeding anymore. Without the dairy industry constantly covering their cows you wouldn't end up with nearly as many calves being turned into veal as veal is a huge byproduct of that industry. But from my perspective I think we should start moving away from our consumption of animal products until we no longer consume them at all so as you can imagine I defiantly don't see a need to breed animals to the extent we do now for that same reason. But putting my personal opinion aside cause honestly that's not really the point, it seems we can defiantly agree that the veal is pretty terrible as far as meats go. Hopefully that didn't sound rude or anything I'm very sorry if it did that wasn't my intent. I have been sick lately and I can sound very harsh when I feel low, so again, pardon me XD I don't want to be an ass or start an argument or anything. That doesn't do anyone any good.
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Very well done and interesting. I enjoy things that make me think a little bit, and it's with something that doesn't paint a clear set of villains or morals but still feels like it tells a simple yet important story. Nothing wrong with a bit of questioning in our lives and whatnot.
Very interesting view of things. Basic and not preachy. I don't enjoy killing animals but I certainly will and do eat them. Reminds me of how in some cultures they have a reverence for the life of their food sources. Maybe we all should have a thanksgiving at every meal. Maybe we used to. You notice the men wore the rabbit ears in homage.
yes, it is a sad story but that's how life works. that's why you don't play with the animals you have to kill and don't kill the animals that you have played with. but i still think the animation is wonderful and it's such a true story.
This is rather an upsetting tale that affected me. I heard that my brother's rabbit died in the beginning of this year, 2020 due an unexpected reason. Unlike that my family's black cat died in 2012 unexpectedly, but I feel bad for him.
This was a very personal and emotional film. Although there is grief in this, so too does life. This wasn't a horrible thing, this boy made a big step in growing up. I bet most of the people in the comments who are saying this is sad and horrible probably have no problem eating a big steak, as long as it doesn't have a face on it.
This story really speaks to me. I'm not a tree hugger and I like this very much. I remember when I was seven and one of my rats died. Of course I cried. That was the first time and only time in my life that I ever was exposed to the reality of death. This was the first and only time in my life that my dad cried.
Wish the kid would've you know, beat the uncle to death with the club and come out wearing his skin, with the rabbit alive and well. THAT would have been justice.
I honestly see nothing too dark about this. The family have rabbits as livestock. When they're too old or big enough, they are killed for food and their pelts for hats (?). Runts aren't "good" for livestock or in this story. The uncle wished to get rid of the "bad genes" of the runt. And still, they killed the rabbit for food.
I think this story goes far beyond the 'eating animals' aspect. For me it's an image of sociological questions. I think it's an image for the fact, that growing up includes adapting to the reality of society around you and that reality can be cruel and completely different from what you would want it to be. So you sometimes give up your dreams and your values... Maybe I am wrong but that's what I see in this story.
@@notrhythm The universe itself means nothing. Human life means something. That, in itself, is already a miracle and a triumph over the meaningless of the universe.
@@talastra what does it really mean to mean something? If it's the purpose.. The universe simply exists, it does not exist for the sake of human life. Same goes for human life. It just exists, it does not exist for another cause. The universe and human life both are just as meaningless.
Consider this: An animal in the wild is constantly stressed and struggling. Struggling to stay alive. Find shelter. Build shelter. Foraging for food and for males it also includes fighting other males, sometimes to death. Most animals are also pray. They need to stay hidden or fight off predators or lure them away by putting themselves in danger when they have immobile offspring. They get sick, cold and nearly all deaths are comparatively slow. The only friends they can make are within their own species and still it's mostly a competition. And then you have domesticated and tamed animals like cats, dogs, horses, sheep, chickens, cows etc. They don't need to worry about food, predators, shelter, warmth.. actually anything that humans consider "a burden". For nearly all animal species humans are the only context of something resembling a relaxed life and the opportunity to experience the concept of "free time". The only ones who get that luxury are usually predators to begin with and that's mostly limited too. So the ideal life, in accordance with human ideals, for any animal is as a tamed pet or live stock for humans, even if humans don't offer them natural or spacious surroundings. We shouldn't strive to not eat animals because the animals have rights because their lives, simply put, would have been worse up to the moment of consumption if they had been wild animals. We should strive to give them decent lives, yes. Not mashed together in tiny boxes. The only reason not to eat animals is because we could theoretically feed more humans if we didn't use so much resources to bring up animals. But you know what? That doesn't solve the problem. It makes it bigger and only puts it off to a new number of humans that we couldn't feed. Humans don't stop breeding. We are animals after all. We do as they do. We breed to the maximum. So eat meat from good farms and don't worry about any moral dilemmas. They are just as fictional as the rationalization I just gave you to stay an omnivore.
The animals we like to eat are the most successful animals on the planet. Insects are, of course, an exception, but they will be successful in any system.
Quite a change from your normal stuff... Seriously outstanding work. I very much enjoyed the part where the rabbit is struggling against the chains. When the eye is pulsating you could almost assume it was an egg, signifying the circle of life, death and birth. A touching piece of art.
The moral is whatever you interpret it to be. There's no wrong or right message. For example, I see this as a lesson on the loss of innocence. The kid has to go through the "childish" phase of caring for the rabbit, only to eventually grow up by removing himself from it, represented by the killing the rabbit. Another way of seeing this is a life lesson of having to let go. Sometimes we must learn to let go of things in life. The boy raised his bunny, but eventually has to face reality.
I wish I had more information on the individual who made this. It's not just about a bunny. I think its a metaphor of some kind. I just wish I had the real story; because comparing its moral to events in my life, makes it understandable.
+LostProphet555 Only mankind would kill other creatures for fun , animals eat other kinds for their life . That's what nature does.Furthermore , only mankind would kill their same kind for their own interest.
+Bawoo WoTAsia Well, cats kill for sport. Have you every seen a cat play with a half-dead mouse? On a similar note, when a male lion usurps a pride, it will murder the cubs of the former alpha. It's not as if only people kill others of their own species.
+Bawoo WoTAsia There's actually a lot of waste. Animals take up a lot of space and are very expensive to grow compared to vedgetables. If all people were vegeterians it would be a much easier task to feed us all.
This is not sad. This is truth. The uncle represents the best point. Keep it for a year, THEN kill it. He gave the boy a chance to bond and stay young, while inevitably the boy knew the day would come when he had to kill it. Growing up and realizing the world is harsh, what a great video and story
Somehow, almost till the end of the video I hoped that there will be a happy ending of some kind. Now I know that the ending was nor “happy”, nor “sad”. It was just usual: the boy grew up and learned that to make an omelet you have to break some eggs… what is still kind of sad, I guess. But look, he couldn’t be sweet, naive and innocent for all of his life. If he was, he, not the rabbit, would be eaten (in metaphorical kind of meaning, if you know what I mean).
To me, this seems like a representation of tradition; where the boy is supposed to live on the tradition, by raising and killing the runt; then eating it while wearing its hide
I shouldn't have watched this high... It was a mistake. It made me think about how I know I will lose my dog of 14 years from this mortal coil in the future. He's happy, healthy, and full of life as if he's still a puppy... He fills with me life. The inevitability is that, yes, he will pass on. And I'll still be here... workout him. I don't want to ever lose him. I'm afraid to...
I watched this video three years ago and came to the realisation that I am not comfortable with the fact I eat meat. This video made me ask myself “Would I be okay in the same situation as this boy?” and the answer was no. And I have been a vegetarian ever since
it was his destiny. as a runt he would be killed at birth. but he lived happily beeing treated as special by the kid. even when the kid let him go he came back coz thats the only way of live he knows. even if he wasnt killed he would be living like a pet in a box for the rest of his life or killed by predators in the wild or beeing pest in Australia. is it better to live a life than not liiving at all. at least his uncle is good person to kill him quickly.
If you're watching this now. I would recommend you educate yourself by watching What the Health, Cowspiracy, Live and Let Live or any other of the many documentaries regarding this topic. There's a lot more information regarding the different aspects of animal agriculture compared to 7 years ago.
![Wire Cutters [Animated Short] by Jack Anderson](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3Bs4LOtIuxg/mqdefault.jpg)
I love art that is open to interpretation. It always seemed more human, the way people look at the same thing and take a different meaning out of it.
exactly!
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an infinitely dark, achingly human fairy tale... no right or wrong, only truth. Will never cease to break my heart
Humanity is both cursed and blessed to have such a wide array of complex emotions. We struggle to decide what is right and what is necessary, and we second-doubt ourselves at every turn. The most difficult thing in this life is to come face to face with reality.
You make it sound like that we should just accept the truth and deal with it without actually forming our own standpoint from viewing all the perspectives and discussing with others. Of course this is what reality is, but it doesn't have to be that way if we work to change it.
Logica et ratio There's simply no other way other than to accept reality. Are you saying that there's a different way to live life productively and fully?
There's accepting reality, and then there's completely withdrawing due to accepting reality. It sounds like you're saying we should just accept the issue and try to completely avoid it, but I could be wrong.
Logica et ratio Yes, I'm saying we need to accept the issue, but I also said that we should come face to face with it regardless. It'd be wrong to run away from it, because reality is the one truth we can't escape from no matter what we do.
This wasn't a sad story. It wasn't even bittersweet. It was uncomfortable, in a beautiful and human way. I'm actually taken aback by this particular artist's animations.
+Liliputian07 I'm guessing you've never lived on a farm before. This rabbit is called food. You let the rabbit live, you die, then it dies. You have access to the internet, so I'm also assuming you have never been anywhere near starving TO DEATH. Maybe you skipped lunch once and were "hungry". This is a way of life. When you are the child of a farmer, you are one more mouth to feed. If you can find a way to feed yourself, you do it. I am taken aback by your ignorance.
+Liliputian07 I liked your original comment it was well said and I agree. However, I didn't enjoy your response to the overly preachy farmer quite as much. Especially from a traveled and learned person such as yourself. I thought your experiences would have taught you about tolerance towards limited or biased views. Stop and take a minute to choose how you want to act instead of reacting.
Liliputian07 What the fuck are you talking about? You just made a long winded light insult, in which you lied about being to Africa and yet you failed to address my comment, meaning that you are still wrong, and I am still right.
Liliputian07 I'm actually not a troll. I think you are a spoiled brat and you don't know what hardship is. Also, you keep failing to answer my original comment. You just word vomit everywhere.
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I feel like the blue bunny represents innocence, the boy represents human kind and the uncle represents reality.
TheFuzz thanks, it makes much more sense now.
i really really love how filmbilder challenges our brain to look for meaning eventhough some of their videos might not have any at all and is simply just a short film
but either way, these videos are truly an art
To me, the rabbit represents innocence and childhood. The boy represents youth and naivety. The uncle represents reality and adulthood.
+Þ sound about right...
+Sgt. Jek I guess it's the story of how a kid grew up.
but a rabbit could be a rabbit, a runt a runt a child a child and papa well just papa, but you do sound like you summed it up well, oh is that mama what a sexy slip of a lass she is. lol my mistake its uncle, well who can tell these days with non stereo gender types
To me, someone already commented this
Right!
This is a perfect parable of how society and tradition work and are forced onto the next generation.
There are three runts, not one - the father, the son, the little rabbit.
The father apparently did have to get through a similar test, in his youth. He has yielded, as did, reluctantly, his son.
Very clever.
Growing up on a farm, I can really relate to this story. People like to distance themselves from the violence and pain of eating meat and outsource that pain; but we are still part of a part of the process. Farming/hunting is hard; the answer "quick" is good, but would be better coupled with "respect." What helps me to butcher chickens was realizing that they only live 3 years and often die in much 'slower' and more painful manners if not eaten; hawks, coyotes, old age; one could argue these are worse than human consumption.
+George Hickman id rather die of old age or get eaten by a predator than brutally betrayed by the person who cared for me and who i believed loved me
ditto
3 years? okay did you just never let your chickens live past three because chickens can live up to ten years if you actually take care of them. one of my hens just died a few days ago and she was almost ten. not to mention one of my girls who lived to be 13. my general average seems to be 7-10 years. I'm not sure who told you they only live three years but that is very incorrect. even breeds meant for factory farms can live quite awhile if given the chance and if properly cared for. I ask mostly because I'm confused you'd think it was so low?beyond that I do think if you cant kill it yourself you shouldn't be eating meat and namely, making someone else do your dirty work for you to get it. most people are ignorant of what goes on to get that slab of pork to their table and I think that is just disappointing. I grew up in ranch country and I've seen just about all that their is as far as the farm industry goes, I can't personally be a part of or support that industry but I made my decision without ignorance. more people need to face their food and consider the very real process of what happens to make it. I have actually met a ton of people that thought meat was a type of plant or root. ._. I couldn't even comprehend that people would be so far removed they wouldn't know that meat was at least part of an animal. so I do agree with you there. but I will say if it was me or you in the place of the chicken, I'm guessing both of us would prefer to die of old age instead of being eaten by like an alien or something lol.
I was referring to wild fowl average lifespan, or average chicken. They can live much longer, but in a natural environment that never happens. Predators, diseases, harsh winters/drought, food source fluctuation. Jungle fowl etc are VERY lucky not to meet grim end by one year. So I view human raising of chickens, to cull some, sometimes, is not too bad a situation for them on a whole. Especially if I breed them to be wild and more feral. Quail, Turkey, Grouse, etc; only the very smart, vigorous, and lucky make it to 3+ years. Yeah, they can live to be 10+ sometimes, but that is ultra-rare in wild. Even in captivity if you don't manage roosters, you will have loss. I have seen people who want to keep "every chicken" and end up with abused hens and rooster fights all day long. That's not humane. Selling them to people who would raise them in some probably not so great conditions, fight them, etc. is not a good option. I would agree about preferring a peaceful 'old age death'. However, old age isn't really a cause of death; something deteriorates or gets imbalanced. Death from deterioration and imbalance is often horrible and prolonged. So if it was a chicken stroke or heart attack; maybe that's better; but not cancer or something degenerative. I like that many predators just grab chicken by head, shake, and its over that fast. When a hawk, or owl hits them in the head they are out cold instantly or it pops off. If they get hit, they were usually sleeping or didn't see it coming; so that's more humane i think. I guess the predators I don't like are feral cats, untrained dogs,yeti, weasels, etc;spp that waste food. Thus.. when I take a chicken, I try to take it like hawk. 99.9% of time, its a rooster, since some of my hens raise babies. Eating them is a good way to keep them from "attacking" girls and each other; its stressful and potentially lethal for hens and each other. I'm going to keep eating rooster and crow. You know what's much worse veal... but you have to raise animals before you understand why that practice exists; too few tits.
George Hickman Ah okay that makes more sense because I was going to say that was way off. Especially since you said you grew up in farm country I was just a little confused you would think the possible life span was so short.
As far as keeping every chicken goes I agree that is completely inhumane and I have seen people do that as well. Usually they have absolutely no idea what they are doing with their chickens or don't actually care about their animals well being in general so I am completely against that. There are ways of keeping extra roosters humanly but in general most people are unwilling to actually go through the effort to do it and you end up with as you said, abused hens and fights all the time. And that's what I was saying about they can live a long time if you give them proper care. I don't see a situation like that as proper care at all, it's frankly just animal abuse if you let the situation get to that point because it's brutal on the hens and the roosters as well.
A neighbor of mine had a great deal of success caponizing her roosters. Our vet in that town could to the operation with anesthetic so it wasn't that painful and wouldn't fail or kill the bird. She liked her Capons so much she ended up rescuing most of the extra roosters in town and keeping them in her flock. All but one or two of them ended up really calm and friendly and it completely stopped all the common rooster issues. It cost her allot per bird though and again the average person doesn't usually want to pay for that.but if we saw chickens as more it wouldn't seem like as big of a deal to pay for something like that.
Farm animals aren't typically treated with the same respect as say a cat or a dog so people are too quick to buy Easter chicks then hock them to the nearest person when they get to big. That mind set really needs to change because it's not about the people it's about the animals that have to deal with our choices.
My main goal in life is to help animals and ensure a good quality of life for them so don't get me wrong, my first concern is for their well being. I don't know you so I can't really confirm this but it does seem like from this we are on the same page with that, we just have different methods of solving that problem lol
But as far as when they do start to get old and have issues, that is when you make the decision just like any responsible pet owner of like a dog or a cat, to do the humane thing and euthanize them. Often times it doesn't end up being that long or drawn out with chickens, at least in my experience. It seems like they will slow up for a few months and you know it's probably soon, or they may have a few really bad days and that's it. I've only had to put down one hen so far. It's usually pretty quick when chickens get to that point. You don't always even have time to think about it honestly. I feel like they go even quicker then a dog or a cat, as those two animals tend to have more lingering illnesses before they get the that point but yeah. My last hen who died was just fine in the morning and I'm pretty sure she actually did have a chicken heart attack in the afternoon. She had slowed up the last year but was very feisty still so I had a feeling her time was coming but it was a complete shock that day. I've not had a chicken get cancer or anything like that, one of them had arthritis but I put a pan of shallow water outside for her to wade in and that pretty much fixed that problem.
I don't know if you have ever tried that with your chickens but they love having like two inches of water to stand in, especially in the summer. Haha but anyways XD
Mostly again I just see it this way, there are lots of elderly people that are miserable and suffering with degenerative deceases but we don't cull people in their prime just because there is a chance they can get sick later on. In fact we won't even kill someone who would consent to die because they are in pain or suffering from said deceases. You may, or may not agree with me on this that's okay, but I don't see much if a difference from one animal to another or even a person to an animal. We are all just walking flesh bags at the end of the day, and I feel if I don't have to take another creatures life then I shouldn't take it. When an animal is in pain, or if I had to defend myself or survive of course I would take action and get the job done, but for me until it's at that point I just have a live and let live policy.
Those are just my personal feelings on the issue its fine if you don't agree my point isn't to force you to take on my belief system. That would be, well, firstly very unproductive and secondly just kind of wrong to force my opinion on you. I just wanted to clarify why I have the stance on this issue that I do, so hopefully it at least makes sense to you.
I do agree with your points on predation though and I also agree with your aggravation at the animals that waste the chicken after taking it. I guess I figure if they are going to take a chicken they should use all of it. That was a huge problem most people had in my last town. Allot of people let their dogs roam around (quite illegally) so if you didn't lock up your chickens they would go and rip up an entire flock just for the hell of it. It was devastating for some people, I was lucky enough to avoid a catastrophe like that though, thankfully. It got close one time and I had to drag a dog out of my coop before it got any of my chickens. That was a day that dog owner regretted I'll tell you that much XD
While that can be a problem 90% of the veal raised in this country is specifically raised for that purpose or are commonly the reject male offspring of the mother. Calves meant for Veal are usually kept alive for a few weeks/months before slaughter to give them time to grow so lack of milk or access to utters isn't entirely the problem. It's a side of the veal issue, but it isn't the whole of it.
There are smaller farms that slaughter young for that reason but in my experience that isn't the primary reason we have veal. besides if our goal wasn't simply the price tag on the end of the animal and instead just on their wellbeing it would be very easy to find substitutes to keep the extra lamb, calf, what ever alive regardless of the situation. All of the tools are at our finger tips but we simply choose not to use them.
Personally I don't support the meat and dairy industry and apart from heritage breeding and preservation of domesticated breeds I don't see a reason to continue mass breeding anymore. Without the dairy industry constantly covering their cows you wouldn't end up with nearly as many calves being turned into veal as veal is a huge byproduct of that industry. But from my perspective I think we should start moving away from our consumption of animal products until we no longer consume them at all so as you can imagine I defiantly don't see a need to breed animals to the extent we do now for that same reason.
But putting my personal opinion aside cause honestly that's not really the point, it seems we can defiantly agree that the veal is pretty terrible as far as meats go.
Hopefully that didn't sound rude or anything I'm very sorry if it did that wasn't my intent. I have been sick lately and I can sound very harsh when I feel low, so again, pardon me XD I don't want to be an ass or start an argument or anything. That doesn't do anyone any good.
this is depressing
And gratuitous, yes.
excuse me while I go cry in the corner ,with a blanket , stuffies , cookies , milk. Anyone want to join me? i got plenty of all
Edit: it's been 3 years and this the most likes I got ever! Ty lovely people ;)
Yes pls. I need that
jammer1qby1 animal jam I'll join you, if you're still there.
im still here with many stuffies want to join me and my plushies?
jammer1qby1 aj i need some,.....
jammer1qby1 aj pls
Very well done and interesting. I enjoy things that make me think a little bit, and it's with something that doesn't paint a clear set of villains or morals but still feels like it tells a simple yet important story. Nothing wrong with a bit of questioning in our lives and whatnot.
Very interesting view of things. Basic and not preachy. I don't enjoy killing animals but I certainly will and do eat them. Reminds me of how in some cultures they have a reverence for the life of their food sources. Maybe we all should have a thanksgiving at every meal. Maybe we used to. You notice the men wore the rabbit ears in homage.
I don't think that was in homage
chistine lane then for what
Kane Alson yeah, they are what they eat
@@chistinelane yeah, I think it was their pride/ego/power move.
@@SkaterGuyYAYreally late reply but they wear It so It wouldnt go to waste
This is the most intimidating uncle I've ever seen O.o
Don't befriend someone you know you're going to lose.
Don't befriend anyone O_o?
*curls up into the void *
+Helios kb In a brutal manner.
+NintenPLUSH Don't befriend your food...
Don't befriend anyone then.
yes, it is a sad story but that's how life works. that's why you don't play with the animals you have to kill and don't kill the animals that you have played with. but i still think the animation is wonderful and it's such a true story.
It's not "how life works".
yes it is it's called the food chain
@@bros-dg4scno not aways,not everyone kills to eat
thanks for the video.
This is rather an upsetting tale that affected me. I heard that my brother's rabbit died in the beginning of this year, 2020 due an unexpected reason. Unlike that my family's black cat died in 2012 unexpectedly, but I feel bad for him.
It aches, but it is the truth. I'm very fond of the script and the design.
This was a very personal and emotional film. Although there is grief in this, so too does life. This wasn't a horrible thing, this boy made a big step in growing up. I bet most of the people in the comments who are saying this is sad and horrible probably have no problem eating a big steak, as long as it doesn't have a face on it.
This story really speaks to me. I'm not a tree hugger and I like this very much. I remember when I was seven and one of my rats died. Of course I cried. That was the first time and only time in my life that I ever was exposed to the reality of death. This was the first and only time in my life that my dad cried.
Beautiful animation, such a sad story :'(
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@@TwoHeadedMeerkat Lol. Hi.
@@kootunesscrewy Huh? Ah, it's you... ...I don't remember even watching this video.
@@TwoHeadedMeerkat I watched this video, because I just found out that it was made by the guy who created TOM and Nuggets.
@@kootunesscrewy Can't say I've heard of that. Honestly I'm surprised you even recognized _me,_ given how infrequently we even interact
4:41 They each took a bite of the rabbit, and it tasted just as good, as if they'd eaten a whole one
Wish the uncle would've you know, let the kid practice swinging the club. Glad he atleast stepped in.
Wish the kid would've you know, beat the uncle to death with the club and come out wearing his skin, with the rabbit alive and well. THAT would have been justice.
@@phoenixnoire2435 you know people kill animals for food everyday right?
@@phoenixnoire2435 you're like that type of person who prefers humans dying over animals
@@bendy2666 You kill and eat your friend then?
@@shockedmusic1 Yes! YES!! Especially if the person on the chopping block is you.
EVEN THE FARM HAS A SHINY
Lmaoo
That's life.
Unlike other video I don't see a bloody and hurtful message. Breeding and Butchering is for survival.
Joshua Rhoads Yeah we need to give em a good life before death
I watched this when you first uploaded it and i remind myself to watch it every year and I still end up crying every time.
I love this so much, so much thought was put into it
FFuck, ich glaub
ich hab grad einen der berührensten und
besten Animationsfilmen UA-cams gesehn oO
I honestly see nothing too dark about this. The family have rabbits as livestock. When they're too old or big enough, they are killed for food and their pelts for hats (?).
Runts aren't "good" for livestock or in this story. The uncle wished to get rid of the "bad genes" of the runt.
And still, they killed the rabbit for food.
maybe we shouldnt eat cute fluffy animals just the ugly ones, but then they might not see it your way, oh to be vegan, poor carrots!!
I think this story goes far beyond the 'eating animals' aspect. For me it's an image of sociological questions. I think it's an image for the fact, that growing up includes adapting to the reality of society around you and that reality can be cruel and completely different from what you would want it to be. So you sometimes give up your dreams and your values... Maybe I am wrong but that's what I see in this story.
@@xtevetyler5332 what?
Every time I watch it I think: The real life isn't a story with happy ends. Sad but true.
Nonsense, even the most banal and awful end of a human life is a miracle and a triumph in this empty cosmos.
@@talastra why is a triumph
@@notrhythm The universe itself means nothing. Human life means something. That, in itself, is already a miracle and a triumph over the meaningless of the universe.
@@talastra what does it really mean to mean something? If it's the purpose.. The universe simply exists, it does not exist for the sake of human life. Same goes for human life. It just exists, it does not exist for another cause. The universe and human life both are just as meaningless.
@@notrhythm The fact that you say so refutes your point.
lol i like how the boy wasn't even traumatized XD
The parents do it for a living :)
Consider this: An animal in the wild is constantly stressed and struggling. Struggling to stay alive. Find shelter. Build shelter. Foraging for food and for males it also includes fighting other males, sometimes to death. Most animals are also pray. They need to stay hidden or fight off predators or lure them away by putting themselves in danger when they have immobile offspring. They get sick, cold and nearly all deaths are comparatively slow. The only friends they can make are within their own species and still it's mostly a competition.
And then you have domesticated and tamed animals like cats, dogs, horses, sheep, chickens, cows etc. They don't need to worry about food, predators, shelter, warmth.. actually anything that humans consider "a burden". For nearly all animal species humans are the only context of something resembling a relaxed life and the opportunity to experience the concept of "free time". The only ones who get that luxury are usually predators to begin with and that's mostly limited too.
So the ideal life, in accordance with human ideals, for any animal is as a tamed pet or live stock for humans, even if humans don't offer them natural or spacious surroundings. We shouldn't strive to not eat animals because the animals have rights because their lives, simply put, would have been worse up to the moment of consumption if they had been wild animals. We should strive to give them decent lives, yes. Not mashed together in tiny boxes. The only reason not to eat animals is because we could theoretically feed more humans if we didn't use so much resources to bring up animals. But you know what? That doesn't solve the problem. It makes it bigger and only puts it off to a new number of humans that we couldn't feed. Humans don't stop breeding. We are animals after all. We do as they do. We breed to the maximum.
So eat meat from good farms and don't worry about any moral dilemmas. They are just as fictional as the rationalization I just gave you to stay an omnivore.
The animals we like to eat are the most successful animals on the planet.
Insects are, of course, an exception, but they will be successful in any system.
we're not born killers, we're made killers.
these short films r so peacefully moving
Quite a change from your normal stuff...
Seriously outstanding work.
I very much enjoyed the part where the rabbit is struggling against the chains. When the eye is pulsating you could almost assume it was an egg, signifying the circle of life, death and birth.
A touching piece of art.
That video made me almost cry :(
This video is mixed with asmr,dark,happiness,joyful,sadness,
Wow this animation is simply genius. Gotta show this to people.
okayy I could've done without that
The moral is whatever you interpret it to be. There's no wrong or right message.
For example, I see this as a lesson on the loss of innocence. The kid has to go through the "childish" phase of caring for the rabbit, only to eventually grow up by removing himself from it, represented by the killing the rabbit.
Another way of seeing this is a life lesson of having to let go. Sometimes we must learn to let go of things in life. The boy raised his bunny, but eventually has to face reality.
Beautiful animation, yet a very sad story...
My art teacher in high school showed me this video some time ago.
"We don't need the runt" still echoes in my mind
love it as the same with your works. Great animation. Deep and poetic. But I can't share it: I cried "too much". Sad truth.
I saw this in a shorts festival once. I wanted to see it again, so thanks once more, you're awesome. Oh and I like this style way more than tom's.
The things you love won't be around forever, but they will become a part of you once they're gone.
I cried watching this. Amazing film
I like the cholours, the music and how the scenes are shown through the eyes of the little boy :)
a very touching story.
What life is isn't what it has to be.
That hurt my heart.
I wish I had more information on the individual who made this. It's not just about a bunny. I think its a metaphor of some kind. I just wish I had the real story; because comparing its moral to events in my life, makes it understandable.
the only sad story that acually almsot made me cry.
You eat them so you kill them , no torture , no waste , RESPECT
+LostProphet555 If you're a lion, yeah! You can't eat your kind lol.
+LostProphet555 Only mankind would kill other creatures for fun , animals eat other kinds for their life . That's what nature does.Furthermore , only mankind would kill their same kind for their own interest.
+LostProphet555 If you still want to eat me . Well... you're sick dude lol
+Bawoo WoTAsia Well, cats kill for sport. Have you every seen a cat play with a half-dead mouse? On a similar note, when a male lion usurps a pride, it will murder the cubs of the former alpha. It's not as if only people kill others of their own species.
+Bawoo WoTAsia
There's actually a lot of waste. Animals take up a lot of space and are very expensive to grow compared to vedgetables. If all people were vegeterians it would be a much easier task to feed us all.
masterpiece
Beautiful.
5:26. "uncle "
feels train blasts into hyperspace
I am sad about the rabbit :_-(
This made me cry.
This is not sad. This is truth. The uncle represents the best point. Keep it for a year, THEN kill it. He gave the boy a chance to bond and stay young, while inevitably the boy knew the day would come when he had to kill it. Growing up and realizing the world is harsh, what a great video and story
Nah you didnt get it.
Is very sad but I really like the animation.
Thanks so much for the great quality upload. =)
sad story,but amazingly done!
Somehow, almost till the end of the video I hoped that there will be a happy ending of some kind. Now I know that the ending was nor “happy”, nor “sad”. It was just usual: the boy grew up and learned that to make an omelet you have to break some eggs… what is still kind of sad, I guess. But look, he couldn’t be sweet, naive and innocent for all of his life. If he was, he, not the rabbit, would be eaten (in metaphorical kind of meaning, if you know what I mean).
This looks suspiciously like the Tom Cartoon with the strawberry jam sandwich, like the figures are basically the same, like the dialogue
that's because they're both by Andreas hykade
It was beautiful
this made me cry so much but I'm also known for being VARY emotional so.... 😭
i love Hykade movies, they are always fascinating
i cried :'(
This is the human *cycle of life*.
Deep message.
beautiful illustration, great story.. love it!!
10 / 10
Good story.
I really hoped It turns realistic.
Thanks for that man.
it's so hard to give these videos a like, even tho i really like what is made here.
incredible music
To me, this seems like a representation of tradition; where the boy is supposed to live on the tradition, by raising and killing the runt; then eating it while wearing its hide
Deep af :(
omg! i cried... im still crying as i type this. tears running down my face.
9 Years Ago, You Cried.
omg..... that was soooo SAD! I shall NEVER live this down.... wow
the RUNT!
This is beautiful
I shouldn't have watched this high... It was a mistake.
It made me think about how I know I will lose my dog of 14 years from this mortal coil in the future. He's happy, healthy, and full of life as if he's still a puppy... He fills with me life.
The inevitability is that, yes, he will pass on. And I'll still be here... workout him.
I don't want to ever lose him. I'm afraid to...
I watched this video three years ago and came to the realisation that I am not comfortable with the fact I eat meat. This video made me ask myself “Would I be okay in the same situation as this boy?” and the answer was no. And I have been a vegetarian ever since
I bet that tasted amazing.
This is soo sad and beautiful... But such is life...
Finde ich gut gemacht.
What a happy ending
This was 😭 sad. Just what I needed for a day brightener
Great music
I cried .-.
it was his destiny. as a runt he would be killed at birth. but he lived happily beeing treated as special by the kid. even when the kid let him go he came back coz thats the only way of live he knows. even if he wasnt killed he would be living like a pet in a box for the rest of his life or killed by predators in the wild or beeing pest in Australia. is it better to live a life than not liiving at all. at least his uncle is good person to kill him quickly.
I can't believe I cried this hard! OMG!
This is very unsettling.
If you're watching this now. I would recommend you educate yourself by watching What the Health, Cowspiracy, Live and Let Live or any other of the many documentaries regarding this topic. There's a lot more information regarding the different aspects of animal agriculture compared to 7 years ago.
Its the circle of liiiiiiiivvvee
BRENDAN ROSS ethics brah 👍🏻
des video is sooo schön... und doch so grausam
Why the hell would you have to kill it??? It’s a beautiful blue bunny it’s clearly healthy enough to live
Thays not the point,they eat the bunnies
No words. Just a dropped jaw and wide eyes
Never get attached trust me
Brutal.
wow