Pros & Cons of Working at UPS (Part 2) - Cons
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- Опубліковано 19 чер 2018
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Detailing the Pros and Cons of working at UPS Part 1 is pros Part 2 is cons. This video should help answer the questions "Should I apply at UPS?" "Is UPS a good place to work?" "Good things about working at UPS" "Bad things about working at UPS"
CONS
1. Seniority-based - Everything is based on seniority
2. The pay is Low - You might have a good starting rate depending on where you are but...
3.Damage to your body
4. Management is horrible - Shady business practices at times
5. Horrible Coworkers - While you can meet the coolest people ever on the other end of the spectrum there are just some horrible people, bottom the barrel of society.
I appreciate your complete and total honesty it makes my life a lot easier to understand where you are standing in your position while you are working for UPS it helps me to better Scituate all good things and put them in a better perspective and helping the situation and broadening their Horizons in their attitudes and adjusting their behaviors as management is concerned.
Another Con, is hot as hell in the summer and cold in the winter, the building is not that ventilated and heat is never turned on during the winter
Lmao 120-130 in my hub during the summer
The honesty in the description of the pros and Cons is very enlightening and proves this type of work is not for everyone.
MOST INFORMATIONAL VIDEO THAT I SEEN YET!
The pension plan should be brought up in your pros. You can work here for 30 years and retire getting payed 2500 to 5000 a month. Depending on you part-time to full-time ratio. That's not including what you contribute to your 401k, Roth IRA and other retirement plans.
in 30 years inflation and a drastically changing economy will probably change this to the point it won't matter... 😔
30 year sounds easy... hell they own u after that... sorry i I don't have that kind of dedication... fawkin marriage
@@djbis there union the bid every six months 2 times a year so i think pay will just keep going up so the pension might be worth more in 30yrs but it will be balanced due too inflation. Drivers top out at like 38-41hr right now.. im thinking about team driving with my girlfriend also im gunna invest my money as well i dont plan on working till im 65 lol but ill sacrifice now so i dont have too later.
That is really only good if you are a truck driver or in some other high paying position other than being a sup or working in the warehouse.
I forgot to add, this is a very fair video IMO. Good overview. What I also found in my week was that I was getting the worst trucks on the line; stuff that was overbooked and the like. But I found most people to be very nice. I didn't hear a lot of bad stuff outside work and didn't see any drugs. In that job I'd expect somebody who was high or drunk to be ridiculously dangerous. If people like that were interfacing with me everyday, I'd walk off immediately. You won't get the chance after you are dead.
The video's good but honestly I'm loving the background music in this video. Music is dope
Thanks for videos!
That's excactly what I needed...
Seniority is great. Number 2 in my Hub!! PT work is just that...Part time. Nit designed to support a household. Supplemental income w benfits. Stay in school!
Was #1 in mine until we had a transfer come over then he told me he only moved to gain the seniority lol. But I'll take it.
Is there an option to work more hours as a part timer?
The FedEx hub I’m at, (started in Nov. ‘18) have a full time job and it’s my part time job for the extra money and flight benefits. Thankfully you don’t have to be there a certain amount of time to move around if you want to. I think if you go into as you’re gonna make this insane amount of money you’re setting yourself up for failure. I’ve been approached by different areas already because of my work ethic, which will most definitely change my “day job” job to where that one may become my Part time job, after I get my CDL.
I have been working at ups for a year and 2 months. But I find out that my coworker during the time gets overtime pay and he is a seasonal worker who just started working there. But when I started they told me that in order to get overtime pay I would have to work there for a year. They lied. Which they do a lot at the ups I work.
I'm trying to get the part time position here in New Orleans. They start you at 14 an hour and I will be making close to what my current full time job wage is. Also the benefits are better, more time at home, and weekends off instead of split days off. Also, IT'S NOT RETAIL!
Herpy Im starting in Southern California at $14 as well
UPS always wants more, more, more, it’s never enough, it’s never fulfilling.
I appreciate the manager con but correct me if I'm wrong, the managers would change from building and whether the management was annoying or not would change from building to building. Right?
Sounds like fun got a interview on the 20th of this month for a part time position if anyone can deal with getting worked to death for pennies its me I'm at my happiest when I feel like I did something constructive but thanks tho....
Everyone else in the room: this guy's nuts 😂
I took a job in preload and lasted a week. I knew i was going to get injured. I never did any strength training and that is exactly what you need to load the trucks. I had been out of work for 3 years from a high paying programming and I was so old I thought I'd check out using this as an encore career. I still had about 8 years to retirement. It didn't take long for me to realize this would be a very hard climb. There must be easier jobs at this pay level.
i got super lucky and went straight to driver this summer
Good video someone needs to do one on a smaller center
Also if your here for money , job security and a future yes it's a great job. No you dont get big money to start but I know plenty of package car drivers making 100k per year after being her for 3 years total.
This is exactly what i here i seen an interview a driver said the ones who drive doubles can make up too like 150k a year but they work a lot of hours..
I work there for the money and fantastic benefits.
I worked as a casual driver last year. I was led to beleive I would be given a permanent position after the season. Amazon gave the shipping contract to USPS and they layed off a few people for a month or so so I know it wasn't BS..
So I have been in contact with HR for this year. I could have taken many positions in the mean time in Orlando which always needs people. They are 45 minutes away and the local one for me is 15 to 20 minutes away but less turn over. They are building a new facility in another town and the local facility will lose routes. The key is they will be cutting down the routes at the local facility and create more jobs. I am waiting on the 14th of October to start the process.
Hopefully they will send me again to integrad for training since I haven't continuously work they require me to go to it again.
I am 52 and just want a secure job and an effing pension, which I was told is being taken away from management so I am trying to stay away from management positions.
Brett Upthagrove Hey Brett
What is a casual driver? Did you use your own car?
Casual Driver is one where you have to go through a week training program. You drive the brown trucks or Rental trucks such as u haul or Penskes if they dont have enough trucks.
You are a problem solver, you are assigned pick ups . .you help get misleads and get them to the right routes also.
I can't believe you cut out the juiciest part :( but still great.
Seems to me like it's best to look elsewhere for work for me at least. My dad worked at a shipping company for 40 years on the dock/yard (never knew the details honestly) and he has got a messed up body for sure, particularly his shoulders/back. Plus his company (Roadway) ended up hitting hard times around 8 years ago and most of the pension went away.
did your dad ever recover his pension?
Is the dispatch supervisor role good? I am going to work there part-time but I didn't know if it was a good job. What are the career paths. good video!
a good dispatch supervisor can make a center great!..good luck
dispatch is the most unthankful position, you're planning everyones "traces" or routes for the day if something goes wrong you have a lot of people knocking on your door yelling. I'm currently in class to become a package truck driver and we have a dispatcher from another center trying to get out and become a driver lol so to each their own i suppose, also i suppose it depends on the state/area you're in.
Yeah i think your talking about warehouse jobs at ups im sure those suck.. but im a class a driver i team drive with my girlfriend so i dont have too deal with that warehouse drama thats why i got out of that lifestyle a long time ago..
Love the videos to be fare we should add from other employees.
There are times supervisors can harass you which is a con and pro. Con because it sucks it makes your shift uncomfortable but pro because when or if they do you file a grevience and get paid double time for your trouble.
Also I have been there about the same time as you and have not been hurt but I am 37 and am a fulltime landscaper so the work doesnt get the better of me. .
The breaks do suck and keep in mind although we are union this is a corporate environment and acts as such so they care about the buck and only the buck as they should.
I have to go to the interview in 30 mins. I have a full-time day job with benefits I just need some extra money. I see they have a night shift for a few hours. The application said no more than 20 hours a week. So that's doable for me if that is the reality of the job. I'm not afraid of hard work but there are levels too it. I'm not going to over do it. I will quit before I have serious back issues. We'll see how it goes.
I'm curious as well. I have a full time (40-45hr) day job right now, and I am on the fences about going to work as a package handler on the evening shift after my day job.
crazygirlfun1 if you stay there you will have serious back problems when you get older
People who just got out of high school and are looking for a career where they have to work there way too the top
Started a month ago at DFW airport, it’s not worth it!! Long lines to get into work, can barely get out of my car after driving home I’m so sore. $225 a week for around 17-18 hours a week. Just not worth it! Can’t move to other areas very easily.
How much do u get paid per hour?
I’m thinking about it.
Good info. From other videos, you would think working at ups is heaven
I have worked at UPS for 27 years, and #3 can be extremely brutal.
4:20 See the USPS Package?
I got a interview Thursday
I'm going to start working for UPS tomorrow in 4200 Mesquite Tx. Does anyone have any information about this particular UPS? GREAT VIDEO BTW
Hey how is it?
I want to work at ups and i live in texas too
I want to know why he keeps saying its a part time job. I just started working for UPS and its full time 40hrs wk PLUS overtime. ?
He’s probably talking about for the package handlers
Kimberly Smith I worked there 12yrs and still had a 3 YR wait for a fulltime job
10 years never got hurt.work safe
Starting wage in the northwest is $15, not $10
matt raivio I’m in SoCal I’m starting at $14
basically it sucks til you become a driver. then it sucks for a little while longer, but you at least have money. then it turns into a great fucking job (10+years) that you can retire on and not hate waking up for.
Seniority is just fair
I think I would work there
So, having seniority is a bad thing?
Probably not once you have it because you can get away with murder and get first dibs on practically anything you ask for.. but starting out your a peasant and Probably not looked highly of and wont make that much but if your patient it will pay off..
I’m in California and I start on Monday. Starting pay is $15.25 under Entry Level Warehouse jobs.
OmgItsYourMommy I’m moving to Sacramento in August and thinking of picking up UPS as a PT job to supplement. What’s your weekly check look like post tax if you don’t mind me asking?
Chris H At minimums 20 hours a week at $15.25 gets you around $300 after taxes. Some days you’ll get around 6 hours depending on how busy it is but most of the time it’s four hours.
Hardly a living wags in California.
@@SuburbaniteUrbanite Nobody asked you but ok princess.
So if you want you become a delivery driver you have to work there for years to get that position?
Droxy Pro I was there 12 yrs and did not have the senority for a fulltime job
I have buddies who got hired from package handler to driver within 3 months. The hub I’m starting at says average time is 3-9 months... so I’m guessing it depends how big of a hub you are at
matt raivio if you work hard and get shit done and don’t hurt yourself you get promoted fast same in any job then you get respect and you don’t have to work as hard
Or you can get your class a and team drive for ups i dont believe that needs seniority i think you get hired on full time with a dedicated run pay too start is almost 30 an hr or 58-60cents per mile.. i team drive with my girlfriend not at ups not yet im gunna apply though once my girlfriend has one year driving experience but honestly too me team driving is easy i know everyone wants too be home every night and has a family i get it but like people are saying everyone wants that feeder position you might waste 20yrs of your life too get when you can go get your class a license drive for one year and drive team for ups making the same but you will be home 2days a week instead of every night just something i would do if i already worked at ups and wanted too move up i wouldnt wait that long i need money and now not 20yrs from not..
How do you only make 900 a month? What the hell???
He's not getting enough hour's
6:39 WHAM LOL
Thanks for explaining what seniority means, had no idea what seniority was all about. Just to check, if they were in line before you they go first? And the line is sometimes long? Don't they know who you are? I'd go tell your Dad if I was you.
Pilots get played good
U said nice!
Low pay for package handler....not worth breaking your back for this position
thanks for video if I start partime in hub how long before a full time feeder
Holly Byrne it could take over 15yrs depending on location
Minimum wage jobs are not just for young people there are older people's working little wage too.
BB Hoody pters used to make 5× min wage.the hub was full of employees with college degrees that were not leaving because we were paid so well which is why it took 15 yrs for a fulltime job.that's not what ups plan was they wanted employees to get their degrees and leave.I went to a trade school and was hired by the state or I would still be there with 40yrs senority.at least I'm retired and collecting a pt ups pension now along with a state pension.
@BB Hoody How about people that immigrated to another country and just because they can't speak the native language they can only get a shitty job like that? Would that be ok by you, you judgemental fuck?
This sounds nothing like my hub
How much are your union dues??
Paul A 2. 5 hours of pay per month
I just started and supposedly they are $35 a month or close to $9 a paycheck. At least according to the paper i received when i had my interview. Although, i have been getting deducted some odd amounts (way more than they are supposed to) plus $350 "initiation fee" taken over your first 10 paychecks. Like i said though, they deducted way too much my first handful of paychecks and i just haven't had any time to talk to hr about it because at this moment things are way too busy due to covid forcing people to order a lot of things online.
why do it? pvd making 1k a week or better. attitude is 90% at most work. enjoyed your job too but not much dough
Wonder how much the package handlers make in 2023!!!
It depends on what state you live in.
@@GennyKene I’m in Texas right now I checked the ups site and where it says apply it states $16.20
@@WaqasKhan-hx4hw Thats pretty high for Texas, over double minimum wage. Good deal.
@@GennyKene 16.40 you can barley make a living!
I was a casual driver for peak used up then thrown out the door like a bum... we will call you when our volume goes up...smh never again working for this company.
Andy Dean Cooper Good idea that's what ups does use you up and discard you
I disagree... my daughter has been a UPS driver for 5 years and makes damn good money!
watch part 1, he clearly says that as a package handler you don't make that much money and that you need to move up today do something else driver, HR. etc.
Joan Milano did she started as a delivery driver or she had to work in a different position to get there?
Yeah im trying too get in team driving otr with my girlfriend i hear they max out at like 91cpm plus per diem of an additional 3.5cpm for every mile you drive all dedicated so you know your checks gunna be consistently the same week in and week out.. 91 cents per mile is equivalent too like 40-45 hr depends on how many miles your run requires each week and how many hours you use up.. i think. Cause there union those warehouse workers have too be patient and work there way up seniority list which takes years or learn some new skills too help move you up faster and make more money.. but for retirement i think its a good job for that.. its a sustainable living comfortable not rich or anything but more then enough too get by if you know how too manage and invest your money properly..
I got a question. What happen if i still pay for the union move to another job until i graduate and then come back without starting over. Can i do that.
Yes. zThe Union can help 4get jobs other places too if you tell them you are leaving UPS and ask them.
I'm a package car driver in california and make about $1600-1800 a week
How many hours do you work?
Yeah you can make good money if you don’t stay in the warehouse that’s my biggest warning to people, as soon as you can move up or out and you’ll be successful. Stay in the warehouse and you’ll be paycheck to paycheck and miserable
how long from part time package to full time feeder
Holly Byrne I was there 12 years and still pt it could take over 15 yrs depending on location
You are in the union, therefore positions are seniority based.
speerrituall1 unless things have changed their were no pt senority based jobs inside.you could be a unloader for 10yrs or more and a new hire would be in smallsort depending on who was the biggest kissass
Why do you keep calling it a warehouse job? UPSers NEVER uses that term.
Sounds like the U.S.P.S. Have some good employees & bad to work with. Luckily, you can move around in different positions and that helps!
sounds like a great place not to work at
Eric Roberts you are exactly right
Worst job ever
Very informative video!
just work on being more confident in your speech, cheers
What UPS pays is shameful. And this is a union job...
What they pay the handlers is shameful. It's a pyramid scheme. All the feeder drivers and package car drivers are getting paid big bucks at the expense of the handlers not. And it's a pyramid scheme in that the handlers "think" they might someday get a driver job and make a ton more money, but most don't. They quit before an opening comes up. Yeah the handlers low pay subsidizes the drivers' high pay. I wouldn't join the union as a handler unless it was like $10 a month for the dues. I figure I would join the union once I'm a driver and getting paid a lot to make it worth dues fee.
I can't wrap my mind around paying union dues for a minimum wage job. Little hours, low pay, and fast-pace physically strenuous work...for what? Just a little over $100 a week after paying my union dues. Nah bro, UPS is high as a kite if they think they can get away with that. That's worse than slavery you can't even pay your rent with that let alone eat or pay your utilities.
@@hyperashitive3217 they get full medical and a pension..the pay rate UPS starts every pt employee is around 25 dollars an hour with the benefits.
@@SirKDUBS29 I'm talking specifically about package handlers. Do they pay $25.00 an hour for those employees? As far as my research has told me, they do not...Where medical is concerned, most people who are low-income can use the affordable care act (Obamacare) and get free medical through the state so that is a non-starter. What people care about the most is whether or not this job can provide them the financial ability to pay their basic living expenses. I'm not going to put my body on the line for a part time minimum wage job where I have to pay "union" dues.
@@hyperashitive3217 we if you make a wage that allows you to be able too provide all your living expenses them you may not be able to get welfare for medical. Part time work is just that part time. You need to work full time to provide for a household. Most package handlers work 2 jobs and a lot of times the 2nd job does not provide benefits so that's why UPS is vital to their families because your wife/husband./children can be on that plan. Only for 100 a month or so in un ion dues. The company is not for everyone but what a starting package handler cost UPS is over 25 dollars an hour because of the health benefits and retirement factored in. If you ask employees with children on teamster insurance would you rather have your benefits or make 25 dollars an hour and no benefits. 100 percent will choose benefits. Lastly, not everyone gets hurt. You will be sore some days but the job keeps you in shape more than it hurts your body. It's not for everyone but not all of us package handlers are not low income.
You had a concussion from boxes falling on your head and you actually came back to work what's wrong with this picture Maybe we're not on the same page but hello workman's comp retire early get paid the rest of your life hello
Julius Adams retire early at age 19 right, first job, doesn’t own anything, barely has a working car, no house, great advise, hello? What
@@GennyKene hello 19 year old workman's comp 3000 $4,000 a month as long as you want it and still go to college HELLO
Julius Adams naw man I don’t know where you live but I know a number of people that have gone on worker’s compensation. Someone I worked broke his foot on the job and they didn’t pay him anywhere near that much. Your probably talking about getting worker’s compensation and using one of those programs you can add on in your benifits package. In which case your point is valid
@@GennyKene I live up in the Northeast
Julius Adams yeah I believe all we get over here for worker’s compensation is 2/3rds pay which isn’t much to begin with. There is a short term - long term disability that’s like 60-70% of your pay but if your only working PT, making 300 bucks a week before taxes, your only getting a little bit more then your normal paycheck. Personally I left the union and moved up and out when I finished school. Now if I got hurt easily would be 3-4K a month. But back then no not even close.
bruh... if a box of walls fell on you then you were not doing your job well xD