Transgender Swimmer Lia Thomas Had No Chance at Olympics, Donna De Varona Says | TMZ Live

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  • @rainbowwarriortarot3255
    @rainbowwarriortarot3255 4 місяці тому +132

    Female sports should be protected It's called a unfair advantage now If transgender women want to compete then it should be a separate category for transgender people

    • @darcicali7693
      @darcicali7693 4 місяці тому +1

      Right

    • @1w598
      @1w598 4 місяці тому +7

      Lol. That would take all the fun out of it, because they'll just be competing against other men again. 😂

    • @LilyFlowers-hh3sc
      @LilyFlowers-hh3sc 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@1w598we don't need to bully them just to make a point. Just stick to the fact that it's an unfair advantage please. You're making yourself and this cause look bad.

    • @LilyFlowers-hh3sc
      @LilyFlowers-hh3sc 4 місяці тому

      ​@@1w598You're not helping. Just stick the fact that it's an unfair advantage. Unfortunately she still has too much male hormones and sports is sports. It doesn't care about peoples feelings. There are rules and regulations.

    • @Xxsorafan
      @Xxsorafan 4 місяці тому

      That’s not a solution. I know you mean well but a separate category of trans sports just isn’t feasible. Trans population is only 5% of the entire world’s population. And not ALL trans women hold an advantage against a cis woman. Everyone just needs to be tested if they are qualified for fair competition rather than outright bans. There’s more to physical advantage than just the gender you were born as. A lot more.
      I do agree that it wouldn’t be fair for Lia to compete. Successful Female swimmers have broad shoulders but Lia has shoulder broader than most men let’s be real. Pair her physique with her height as well. But ALL trans women shouldn’t be banned just for having experienced male puberty.

  • @keithbraham6438
    @keithbraham6438 4 місяці тому +215

    Simply put HE lost HIS bid in HIS attempt to continue HIS cheating

    • @ArizonaSquatch
      @ArizonaSquatch 4 місяці тому

      She's still a human being. You not so much.

    • @Schnoz42069
      @Schnoz42069 4 місяці тому +2

      Reminder she was one of the best swimmers in the US before she transitioned. Ranked 20th overall in the mens swimming division. The idea that she "swam badly as a male and transitioned for the advantage" is bigoted nonsense. She was an amazing swimmer who became significantly worse due to estrogen destroying her muscles. From 20th in the men's division to 198th in the women's. All these stats are available on the USA swimming website if you don't believe me.

    • @keithbraham6438
      @keithbraham6438 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Schnoz42069 who is the "she" you are referencing? In our world if it has a dick it isn't a chick🤣

    • @raymond7451
      @raymond7451 4 місяці тому

      @@Schnoz42069 He then stays where he started . You dont get to change because you suck at where you started . COPE .

    • @dorabolick9275
      @dorabolick9275 4 місяці тому

      @@Schnoz42069 He can't change reality, no matter what drugs he ingest or surgery he has. Keep pretending.

  • @1w598
    @1w598 4 місяці тому +132

    STOP calling HIM "she". It's embarrassing at this point.

    • @Schnoz42069
      @Schnoz42069 4 місяці тому +3

      Cope.

    • @raymond7451
      @raymond7451 4 місяці тому

      @@Schnoz42069 He is a He and will never be a SHE . COPE

    • @codejunki567
      @codejunki567 4 місяці тому +14

      ​@@Schnoz42069 I don't think you know what that word means 😂.

    • @Xxsorafan
      @Xxsorafan 4 місяці тому

      Why? She’s a trans women and that’s still a woman regardless how you feel

    • @ionechisholme7552
      @ionechisholme7552 4 місяці тому +1

      💯

  • @ericlumuy3473
    @ericlumuy3473 4 місяці тому +44

    It's totally cheating competing in women's sport as a biologically male.

    • @salemlee2592
      @salemlee2592 4 місяці тому

      But he won’t compete against other trans women or biological men. Which I find ridiculous you have an advantage!! Why do you need to beat women

    • @Schnoz42069
      @Schnoz42069 4 місяці тому

      Reminder she was one of the best swimmers in the US before she transitioned. Ranked 20th overall in the mens swimming division. The idea that she "swam badly as a male and transitioned for the advantage" is bigoted nonsense. She was an amazing swimmer who became significantly worse due to estrogen destroying her muscles. From 20th in the men's division to 198th in the women's. All these stats are available on the USA swimming website if you don't believe me.

    • @raymond7451
      @raymond7451 4 місяці тому

      @@Schnoz42069 He is a He and will never be a SHE . COPE

    • @TraeEvans-d4n
      @TraeEvans-d4n 4 місяці тому

      ​@@Schnoz42069 he

    • @nic_907
      @nic_907 4 місяці тому

      @@Schnoz42069he literally wasn’t though. His times that placed high at NCAA championships wouldn’t have even won my high school state meet. 4:33 in the 500 free isn’t even the junior nationals cut for men.

  • @ICallItAsItIs
    @ICallItAsItIs 4 місяці тому +39

    GOOD! The adults have finally arrived!

  • @ellisonkaz1720
    @ellisonkaz1720 4 місяці тому +15

    The trans community can thank narcissists like Thomas for the increased negative attention their community has received. Maybe TRAs should start having some rational fact based conversations regarding equality…the entire stomping the ground with fingers in ears shouting transphobe and bigot has gotten old and tired…respect is earned not given. Women fought for our rights and they expect us to give up our fragile gains for TW they aren’t concerned about TM or females…it’s the new misogyny.

  • @viejolincanada
    @viejolincanada 4 місяці тому +64

    Mr. Thomas can compete against his peers: men

    • @jaysmith6013
      @jaysmith6013 4 місяці тому +2

      But he’s not good enough to do that

    • @terryr7622
      @terryr7622 4 місяці тому +1

      Of course he can. Winning, however, would be out of the question😊

    • @grandmastermario3695
      @grandmastermario3695 4 місяці тому

      His testosterone and whatever is not high enough, because been taking hormones

    • @viejolincanada
      @viejolincanada 4 місяці тому

      @@grandmastermario3695 "His testosterone and whatever is not high enough, because been taking hormones"
      Mr. Thomas could stop taking hormones if he wants a chance to win.

    • @quediantterkids7047
      @quediantterkids7047 4 місяці тому

      😮

  • @theylied1776
    @theylied1776 4 місяці тому +64

    I believe in equal rights, I believe that people should identify as they want. But if you were born male and went through puberty as a male, you have undeniable biological advantages over natural Born women.

    • @notsorryyouretriggered
      @notsorryyouretriggered 4 місяці тому +23

      Equal rights means just that, equality. The “trans movement” isn’t about that but rather special treatment & privileges. Such as, being able to enter onto women’s teams with no regard given to how women will be impacted by being forced to coexist with men in their own spaces.

    • @evieflores706
      @evieflores706 4 місяці тому +5

      Exactly 💯

    • @Schnoz42069
      @Schnoz42069 4 місяці тому

      Not after 3 years of estrogen you don't. Lia is preforming worse than she ever did in the men's division. Her muscles are destroyed.

    • @tudevoid
      @tudevoid 4 місяці тому +8

      ​@@Schnoz42069her??? Come on now, stop acting like he is a her.

    • @theylied1776
      @theylied1776 4 місяці тому +6

      @@Schnoz42069 If you are still training to compete as an athlete, no amount of estrogen will change your bone structure, lung capacity, or how the muscles process oxygen. This is basic biology.

  • @trollrap
    @trollrap 4 місяці тому +39

    He can't use the cheat code in Olympics that is a great thing
    Now he should be taken out of all women's swimming

    • @Schnoz42069
      @Schnoz42069 4 місяці тому

      Reminder she was one of the best swimmers in the US before she transitioned. Ranked 20th overall in the mens swimming division. The idea that she "swam badly as a male and transitioned for the advantage" is bigoted nonsense. She was an amazing swimmer who became significantly worse due to estrogen destroying her muscles. From 20th in the men's division to 198th in the women's. All these stats are available on the USA swimming website if you don't believe me.

    • @trollrap
      @trollrap 4 місяці тому +6

      @Schnoz42069 he didn't even rank, it is why he used the cheat code to win
      If he would try to be where he belongs he would not make the team

    • @raymond7451
      @raymond7451 4 місяці тому

      @@Schnoz42069 did you cop and paste this crap . He is a HE and will never be a SHE . COPE

    • @Schnoz42069
      @Schnoz42069 4 місяці тому

      @@trollrap You're completely incorrect

    • @codejunki567
      @codejunki567 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@Schnoz42069 Currently he ranks about 400 if you were to compare him with other normal men.

  • @StevenMilne-sm4fk
    @StevenMilne-sm4fk 4 місяці тому +22

    It’s idiotic to argue this.🤭🤭🤭

    • @missdee7045
      @missdee7045 4 місяці тому +1

      And sad that we have to.

  • @DannyFromLA23
    @DannyFromLA23 4 місяці тому +16

    Good. Enough is enough

  • @braikka
    @braikka 4 місяці тому +17

    HE lost HIS case to cheat!

  • @cheryltelfer5472
    @cheryltelfer5472 4 місяці тому +17

    They need to create a transgender category at the Olympic for fair competition and gamesmanship.

    • @shortiebae152
      @shortiebae152 4 місяці тому +4

      The Aquatics division did and nobody applied.....why didn't they?

    • @birdsfan5440
      @birdsfan5440 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@shortiebae152they don't like the whole "FAIR" thing

    • @markbarbosa9936
      @markbarbosa9936 4 місяці тому

      That would be funny to watch

    • @LilyFlowers-hh3sc
      @LilyFlowers-hh3sc 4 місяці тому

      I would totally support that. But this is not fair. She has too much male hormone. It's an unfair advantage plain and simple. There was a lady that used to be a man that broke a woman's jaw in wrestling. How much more evidence do we need to tell people this is wrong? But I do support their transitions. It's just that it's too wishy washy to deal with in the world of sports. Get another job. Not everyone gets to do what they want unfortunately.

    • @jalenstimes7452
      @jalenstimes7452 4 місяці тому

      So, just lump them into Men's sports since there are so few transgenders that play sports?

  • @terebrate
    @terebrate 4 місяці тому +15

    Why are they referring to William Thomas as "she/her"? You're misgendering him!

    • @mypimpeador
      @mypimpeador 3 місяці тому

      Wow what a unique take on this discussion 👏

    • @crosstatt7441
      @crosstatt7441 2 місяці тому

      @@terebrate Exactly, you need to call William “he/him”. You need to kill the problem at the root, not the stem.

  • @SeattAl
    @SeattAl 4 місяці тому +7

    Now, return ill gotten college trophies, and apologize to Riley Gaines

  • @leoman6594
    @leoman6594 4 місяці тому +4

    HE really should be ashamed and embarrassed.

  • @ArabellaPottery
    @ArabellaPottery 4 місяці тому +7

    His name is William Thomas. Stop lying.

    • @mypimpeador
      @mypimpeador 3 місяці тому

      Bruh people change their names 🤦🏽‍♀️ u can change your name to mickey mouse for all we care

    • @crosstatt7441
      @crosstatt7441 2 місяці тому

      @@ArabellaPottery Yes, it is. You have to take the root out of it. Your gender identity is what you’re conceived as, nothing else.

    • @ArabellaPottery
      @ArabellaPottery 2 місяці тому

      @@crosstatt7441 HIS name is William Thomas. HIS male gender is permanent. 2+2 does not equal 5. And the world is not flat. Followers caused WW1 and WW2 etc. Thinkers ended it.

  • @ItalianBC1
    @ItalianBC1 4 місяці тому +18

    HE

  • @VeraxMusic
    @VeraxMusic 4 місяці тому +3

    Good, stop putting people's imaginations over objective reality.

  • @mattboyko09
    @mattboyko09 4 місяці тому +6

    Finally some sanity for a change 😂

  • @1w598
    @1w598 4 місяці тому +5

    Stop entertaining this joke by pretending it's legit.

  • @phonevidz
    @phonevidz 4 місяці тому +23

    He

  • @Tom-sj3vn
    @Tom-sj3vn 4 місяці тому +4

    america and the world supports this! Good move.

  • @TrumpGirl8713
    @TrumpGirl8713 4 місяці тому +3

    We have fallen so far from Christianity… it’s so sad .. this is Sodom and Gomorrah and the fall of rome ….

    • @XX-td3lv
      @XX-td3lv 4 місяці тому

      It’s about common sense.

  • @Gaizen82
    @Gaizen82 4 місяці тому +3

    Dude stop referring this dude as a she women

    • @mypimpeador
      @mypimpeador 3 місяці тому

      Whaat 😂 Grammar matters bruh

  • @ruthiebowes2518
    @ruthiebowes2518 4 місяці тому +4

    HIM! Not “her”. Yal on tmz so dumb. No one likes tmz.

  • @srami004
    @srami004 4 місяці тому +3

    Biology makes a difference when it comes to sports

    • @mypimpeador
      @mypimpeador 3 місяці тому

      Thank u for explaining Rick

  • @quediantterkids7047
    @quediantterkids7047 4 місяці тому +1

    This is wonderful news thank you for fighting for us❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @XX-td3lv
    @XX-td3lv 4 місяці тому +1

    WHY ,,,,,,, are we even saying “she”? We’re continuing to leave an out for acceptance and playing along with this “game” by saying she. Just say Thomas .

  • @THENARRATIVTestimonies
    @THENARRATIVTestimonies 4 місяці тому +4

    Good. That is a boy.

    • @mypimpeador
      @mypimpeador 3 місяці тому

      Absolutely not, an adult male is called a man 😂

  • @MsNerdsRevenge
    @MsNerdsRevenge 4 місяці тому +10

    2023 Asian Games had a transgender swimming competition. No one entered.

  • @Lez325
    @Lez325 4 місяці тому +3

    She - no no no it's a HE

  • @sageofrsforever1433
    @sageofrsforever1433 4 місяці тому +1

    Atleast women still have a fair playing field at the Olympics not having to compete with men in dresses

  • @SuperMogul
    @SuperMogul 4 місяці тому +6

    Insanity

  • @HauteHorizon
    @HauteHorizon 4 місяці тому +12

    A certain group of people is very worked up over this on twitter/x.

    • @pragmaticobserver1592
      @pragmaticobserver1592 4 місяці тому +1

      and we dont give a flying fu*k that they are,

    • @lreece922
      @lreece922 4 місяці тому

      ​@notsorryyouretriggered I'm a lefty and I have no problem with trans people at all. I also agree with this verdict. Biological men are stronger than Biological women. Most Trans people just wanna live in peace. Sports is the exception.

    • @idealiamcadory3769
      @idealiamcadory3769 4 місяці тому +2

      😂😂😂😂😂 tell them to find god..

    • @LilyFlowers-hh3sc
      @LilyFlowers-hh3sc 4 місяці тому

      ​@@idealiamcadory3769as a religious person I can tell you that God accepts all people. You also need to stick to the subject. Separation of Church and State like our founding fathers said. It is simply an unfair advantage. Sadly she still has the hormones in her body and that's the only thing that matters. Stop being a bully and getting off on her pain. It sucks for a lot of people. But this is sports and it doesn't care about people's feelings. Because to care about hers is to disregard hundreds. She needs to be a good sport about this.

    • @cheehee808_
      @cheehee808_ 4 місяці тому +1

      Oh well...anyways 😂

  • @anitagrunwald8267
    @anitagrunwald8267 4 місяці тому +1

    Donna De Varona was MIA when her voice was most needed.

  • @torchtorch1480
    @torchtorch1480 4 місяці тому +4

    Easy. If they want to be in the Woman category, let them. You can create a new category as xx chromosome category. And DNA tests for this category. I'm sure women will apply for that.
    I'm sure they won't mind the name as long as women at birth will have fair competition in that category.

    • @43aqueous
      @43aqueous 4 місяці тому

      Nah, grow up! They need to hear the word NO clearly. They are poorly socialized men.

    • @birdsfan5440
      @birdsfan5440 4 місяці тому

      This is stupid if your not an Olympic athlete you have no place at the olympics

  • @memeguyTM
    @memeguyTM 4 місяці тому

    If they did allow it then all the other athletes should just reject competing alongside that thing. Easier said then done obviously.

  • @Boomhauersdad
    @Boomhauersdad 4 місяці тому

    Hahaha top tier trolling on a national level. Legend!

  • @Brittanybeautician
    @Brittanybeautician 4 місяці тому +1

    Things need to be fair. They have the chance in the open category and that’s more than fair

  • @missdee7045
    @missdee7045 4 місяці тому +1

    Someone taking a solid stance and speaking reality in a world full of delusions. I applaud her. I believe ppl may identify however they want however they should not be allowed to compete in spaces where their biological make up can give them an unfair advantage. Sports is most definitely that space.

  • @andrewtodd9103
    @andrewtodd9103 4 місяці тому +4

    HE. HE CAN CHANGE HIS NAME TO LIA IF HE WANTS TO. BUT THATS STILL A F*CKIN DUDE.

  • @yingwong732
    @yingwong732 4 місяці тому

    "They" should fix their shoulder width and pelvis.

  • @zeenuf00
    @zeenuf00 4 місяці тому +1

    Looks like William Thomas will have to swim against dudes . . . and lose.
    😅😅😅😅😅😅

  • @TrumpGirl8713
    @TrumpGirl8713 4 місяці тому +3

    That’s a dude

  • @azcardguy7825
    @azcardguy7825 4 дні тому

    When I heard about Lia Thomas my first thought was questioning what his “happiness” ended up costing other women? How many women lost their records? How many didn’t get scholarship? How many won’t get NIL money? Etc

  • @MLR-jw5em
    @MLR-jw5em 4 місяці тому +1

    Why doesn’t Lia try out for the men’s team

    • @namastewellness
      @namastewellness 2 місяці тому

      He was on the men's team at UPenn through his sophomore year and was losing all his races.

  • @nostalgically_nope9983
    @nostalgically_nope9983 4 місяці тому +1

    So happy that thing got banned! Riley Gaines is the real champ

  • @kumarperumal3667
    @kumarperumal3667 3 місяці тому

    That fellow Liar Thomas

  • @WilliamSpenceris43
    @WilliamSpenceris43 4 місяці тому

    The world gone crazy. We can’t tell boys from girls

  • @themanironmask
    @themanironmask 4 місяці тому

    how on earth are we even talking about this anymore? You should ONLY be allowed to play/compete in a sport with the birth sex to which you were born. Case closed.

  • @ralfl.k.5636
    @ralfl.k.5636 4 місяці тому +1

    Thomas not allowed to swim with women's - bad news.
    We have all mankind sports.

  • @2013LPN
    @2013LPN 4 місяці тому

    There is no blanket ban! They have an open category and also if you transition prior to puberty. That’s not a blanket ban. He just doesn’t like the restrictions That are preventing him from cheating and stealing titles.

  • @TheBlaccheart
    @TheBlaccheart 4 місяці тому +1

    what a time we live in. of course for black folks it was way worse in America back in the old days.

    • @XX-td3lv
      @XX-td3lv 4 місяці тому

      Yes but black folk weren’t pretending to be black. That’s a different topic all together.

  • @Othugg
    @Othugg 4 місяці тому

    Would Lia Thomas even pass a drug test?? I’m confused how someone can take testosterone or estrogen and think they should compete with everyone else..

    • @namastewellness
      @namastewellness 2 місяці тому

      He has tests in his body including his testicles that he was born with.

  • @greedyyawgoo5635
    @greedyyawgoo5635 4 місяці тому

    Like I said, 1000 is the only beginning, but the moment you open the gate, their is no turning back…

  • @ProFlightxMobile
    @ProFlightxMobile 4 місяці тому

    If this guy won any trophies in this category then that’s a shame and they should be taken away.

    • @clairepenfold6432
      @clairepenfold6432 4 місяці тому

      They did unfortunately they went from not even being in the top 200 when they were in the male events to winning everything when they started competing as a female

  • @GodOfDestructionVegeta27
    @GodOfDestructionVegeta27 4 місяці тому

    A thousand spots is insane!! So glad they banned this nonsense!!

  • @muayboran6111
    @muayboran6111 3 місяці тому

    Entitled America. Not even Thailand do that and they've been the butt of jokes for having ladyboys for YEARS but now it's important because it's American

  • @noregretcoyote1808
    @noregretcoyote1808 4 місяці тому

    How many podium spots have been taken by trans men? None? Why is that?

  • @9395gb
    @9395gb 4 місяці тому

    They only did it for swimming. It's not for all sports. So there are still some womens sports that transwomen are coming in. This is why everyone needs to boycott the entire Olympics until there is a total ban across all sports.

  • @maalat
    @maalat 2 місяці тому

    Look at his broad shoulders. That’s a huge advantage compared to female shoulders. What about his arms, neck, lungs, hands? All big, massive.

  • @gy7422
    @gy7422 4 місяці тому +2

    Lia the dude stop with her stuff

  • @EmekaAgbo-x6v
    @EmekaAgbo-x6v 4 місяці тому

    I don't know why this continues to be a topic, let Lia complete against other trans women any other decision would be cheating

  • @mya5980
    @mya5980 4 місяці тому

    NEVER was a Woman Never will be ‼️period
    ⚖️ SWEET SWEET JUSTICE 🤗

    • @MLR-jw5em
      @MLR-jw5em 4 місяці тому

      Never had to have a period either

  • @ronaldopando769
    @ronaldopando769 4 місяці тому

    The world governing body of sports is not going to bend the knee to America’s lunacy

  • @shanicestella2226
    @shanicestella2226 4 місяці тому

    As Olympics are an institution that takes fairness in sports seriously
    If world of sports loses its fairness , it won't counted as world of sports anymore
    I'm more sorry with the naturally born female athletes that work so hard for their athletic dream at various championship even though being cheated by somebody that want their position
    Lia looks like a narcissist that want a quick gold
    Lia may have a strength than a normal natural born female athlete but Lia won't be able to secure the Olympic spot easily compared to natural born male athletes

  • @maalat
    @maalat 2 місяці тому

    What determines them men is their XY chromosome that’s gives them the advantage, massive physical advantage bigger lungs, longer arms, massive neck… stronger inside and outside the body. Why deny that’s.

  • @mothball5425
    @mothball5425 4 місяці тому

    Bye bye Billy Boy, get back to the men's competition 👋

  • @ionechisholme7552
    @ionechisholme7552 4 місяці тому

    Hmm technicality not excluded for being male . Let them have their own legue

  • @bettinaparker3652
    @bettinaparker3652 4 місяці тому

    You mean " Him! "

  • @evieflores706
    @evieflores706 4 місяці тому

    As it should be.

  • @Cheeeeeeeeks123
    @Cheeeeeeeeks123 4 місяці тому

    Ridiculous

  • @dinodiciolli7519
    @dinodiciolli7519 4 місяці тому

    Leonardo Thomas.

  • @marcelaxkathereen7504
    @marcelaxkathereen7504 4 місяці тому +4

    Disgusting

    • @ArizonaSquatch
      @ArizonaSquatch 4 місяці тому

      Which part? The angry white Christian lady? Because Lea isn't. She's a human. Are you?

  • @peanutbuttermike2420
    @peanutbuttermike2420 4 місяці тому

    Wow

  • @talksoup33
    @talksoup33 4 місяці тому

    *his

  • @deejay22369
    @deejay22369 4 місяці тому

    🌾👀🌾

  • @fredblogs2023
    @fredblogs2023 4 місяці тому

    Blanket ban the "lot of them" from ever competing against Women!!

  • @VincentGreen-b7d
    @VincentGreen-b7d 3 місяці тому

    I support Lia Thomas ❤❤