History of the Copper Age of Comics
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- Опубліковано 30 гру 2023
- For our New Years episode, @ComicTom101 returns with Jeff the Golden Age Guru and Fire Guy Ryan to breakdown the Copper Age of comics.
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Spiderman: The Death of Jean deWolfe was one of the big ones for me.
This is great! I have been reading comic books since the 70's and the mid 80's to mid 90's was special. No internet, no pc's, no smartphones, just comic books and my imagination. I miss it.
Smart phones with dumb people on them.
@@user-be7tc2bd6e Thats not nice
My reaction to listening to these guys discuss being around during the events of the 80s when Dark Knight and Watchmen were first published: Jesus, I guess I am old...
Never heard of the Copper Age before this episode.
Really?
because clicks. To most people it seems to be just golden age (1938 to 1956), silver age (1956 to 1968), bronze age (1968 to 1986), and then modern age (1986 to 2011).........and then most of us got burnt out of the industry at that point and everything became take it or leave it.
@@bryansteele832 There are really around 9-10 eras
It's only semi-recognized. I'm in favor of it because having the modern age go from the 80s to today is too much.
@@BP-dn9nv There should be a golden age ear, something between golden and silver, bronze, an Iron Age, a Copper Age from 84-92, another age then until the modern age of books like 2003 or so
Watched, and used Variant videos as background noise for a few years now before deciding to get into collecting & reading comics myself via Omnibus format.
Having last read comics as a kid during rhe late '80 to mid '90s, and having reading the original *Secret Wars* as a breaking in point, I'm now at 25 hardcover omnibuses with a few TPB.
Recently read *Kraven's Last Hunt* via Epic Collection, actually enjoyed the build up towards the main story more than the issues everyone talks about.
So realised there's alot of Bronze age comics i want to tackle (although grabbed a bunch of John Byrne Omnibuses) but this video is wetting my appetite to add more _Copper age_ titles.
*Love the content, wishing you all a great 2024*
10:25. At that time in the 1980’s, there was no automated process to eliminate a caller spamming in multiple calls to vote.
Ask Alan "Why did no one cut the power to the chamber which created Dr. Manhattan? " No one could flip a breaker switch? Kill the generator? Or pulled a plug? Unplug it from power source? Remove a fuse?
Facts. I hate working with incompetent people
people were dumb in the early days of nuclear technology. lots of people were positioned way too close to test sites, so they could observe, and died of cancer. other people filmed movies right near those test sites, and lots of them died too. don't underestimate the willingness of mankind in general to sacrifice a few members if it achieves their technological, artistic, or any other type of goal they view as larger than the individual. they didn't do anything because they wanted the data on what happens when someone gets fried in the chamber.
What if all his coworkers hated him and so didn’t bother to save his life?
Good idea. Not supported by the story.@@emanuelepolloni4002
Lock out tag out procedures, along with OSHA, do not exist in comic books lol.
J. O'Barr's the Crow series is a classic.
80's all the way baby! HAPPY NEW YEAR LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE WILL MAKE IT. HELL YEA!!!!!👍
Dang I remember when this was called the ‘modern age’ and we were in it!
so long ago lol
Wish I bought more back then. Bought everything in the mid 90s thinking it was going to be so valuable and couldn't give it away for decades because it was so mass produced. Been getting back into copper and silver love those classic covers.
Thank you for this! Listening to these guys brought back so many memories. I'm 56 & I started my collection of comics about 1980. The 80's was a great time to read comicbooks. I still have the Secret Wars in my stash. The Crisis on Infinite Earths was so awesome. Batman the Dark Knight Returns is my all-time favorite Batman story. Watchmen & Green Arrow the Longbow Hunters I have in collected TPB. Of course, Batman 1989 ended the 80's on a high note. It was because of that movie that mainstream came to comics. Yeah, the 80's was the greatest decade.
Can you do history of Alfred Pennyworth, Batwing, Flame Bird, Batwoman, Azrael, Signal(Duke Thomas), Bluebird, Stephanie Brown and Carrie Kelly?
The late 80s. Man I remember these days! That's when I picked up my first comic. I believe it was Superman. I can't remember what happened. I read both Marvel and DC as a kid. Wasn't it the late 80s that started the Golden Age of X-Men? With the slaughter of the Murlocks by the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants?
No X-Men golden age started in the very late 70’s with Claremont/Byrne
@@uglyewok6715cochrum but yeah.
HAPPY NEW YEAR Y'ALL!
Shout out to my dad who dragged 6 year old me in bookstores and magazine shops right at the start of this era. He inadvertently hooked me on comics because seeing so many of these books fresh on the shelves, there was no way around it.
That was my age.
I stopped buying comics religiously around '95.
Once I got into college, priories changed and there's only so much money to go around.
I was into current comics from 1984 to 1995. Ages 5 to 14, then got back into it in my mid 20's but got out again when I was 29. Everything just seemed derivative of what I read in my youth. I do not read anything current now. I just buy past stuff digitally.
I never understood buying multiple copies of a certain comic-like Jim Lee's X-Men no-1#. But,it worked on other people. LOL. Different covers for the same comic,all covers turn into a fold out poster cover,who ever came up with these ideals deserved a raise. LOL. Because people were buying them,it had to be little kids tho.
One of my fave episodes yet good job guys
Hey, I know those guys!
Thank you for acknowledging the Copper Age of Comic Books.
Can’t wait for the video on the history of the modern age to come out. The rise of Image comics, spawn, the walking dead and the rise of independent publishers🎉
When will modern age end?
Happy new year everyone 🎉🥳
You guys killed me when you said you weren’t born in 86.
Not a big fan of what Frank Miller did to Superman. It’s just ridiculous. The rest of the story is great though.
The Killing Joke, A Death in the Family, and Watchmen were all incredible.
I WAS there in 1986 to pick up both Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns. And it was every bit as mind-blowing as you are imagining.
I got Watchmen because I was intrigued by the asymmetrical cover and the interior artwork.
Although the opening was shocking, the whole detective/mystery element of the plot meant that it was a slow burn ---- that is, the story's true impact was not immediately felt, but only glimpsed as the plot developed further and further.
I only picked up TDKR on the advice of a friend. (GREAT advice!) But it was IMMEDIATELY apparent that, due to the tone of image and story, you were holding something truly unique in your hands. No one had to tell me to make sure I got the subsequent 3 issues!
Even so, few of us quite realized that we were watching the making of history.
I truly feel like the 80s was the peak of comics . It had such a wide variety of writers and artist in their primes , John Byrne , Frank Miller , Alan Moore, John Romita Jr, Mcfarlane , Jim Lee, Marc Silvestri , Liefeld, Art Adams , Mignola, Claremont I mean the list goes on and on!
Awesome coverage, great insight too
Thank you so much for the trip down memory lane. Before this I simply dabbled in comics, but it was during these years that I went all in. Thank you.
Absolutely great video! Only question, no mention of Alex Ross and his Now Comics debut?
Venom was created by a fan Randy Schueller. He submitted a concept peice back in 1982.
Why is he so angry? Too much hostility 😂
happy new year vc!
Same to you!
Happy early Easter everyone.
I started collecting in the early 80’s and was lucky enough to experience it all and it was great 😃 the independent market was so awesome at this time and a lot of big names got their start in those comics. We need a show digging deeper into those titles
Alan Moore was able to do the deconstruction in a respectful manner. The level of nuisance and detail was breathtaking. And often overlooked for the dark and edgeness.
A lot of deconstructive takes later on become hate mail vs love letters.
Is death of Superman not considered the copper age? I’m surprised that wasn’t mentioned.
Most money made
Most comics sold
Most popular creators in history
=copper?
It’s a shame you left off Mark Gruanwalds Squadron Supreme which predates The watchmen and Dark Knight!
Can you do the history of magneto, gambit, judge dredd, Cassie hack, qwenpool, hit monkey, vamperrella, moon girl & devil dinosaur and league of extraordinary gentlemen
Thx for a great year
Happy new year! 🫶🏾
Grant Morrison doom patrol run was amazing, too
The Forbidden Tree was called the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. So that means it's fruit is "Knowledge of Good and Evil." Just like Apple trees grow a fruit called apples.
Dark Horse Comics Came Around This Time my favorite publisher behind DC Comics love The Mask Sin City and Timecop
Wait copper? Is this a new Mandela thing
Which one of these comics is the best as well as should be adapted on the Big Screen or TV Shows and worth getting our hands on?
Just sold my childhood tmnts from the 80s. Both my kids played with them. They were well used. Unfortunately my son lost a lot of little pieces. But the turtles were my jam as a kid
ASM 299 is Venoms 1st appearance
Great video quite informative
I always thought the 80s and 90s as still part of the Bronze Age. Never heard of the Copper Age term first time heard of this.
Every "age" was applied retroactively after the fact. I think these guys must have coined the term. I expect the "Modern" age will be rebranded eventually, after something changes.
I think it’s a fairly new term also. I heard it for the first time like 6-8 months ago. Personally I think is about time and I feel like the 90s and early 2000s should be getting its own era soon too.
Really? You must be a wee child…
@@user-ut8sh8bg5fno.. copper age has been around for years… this trio of brainiacs did not coin anything.
WOW, Beautiful video. I know about gold & silver age. But I didn't know tthat , this was the coper age of comics and my era. Happy New year everybody :)
happy new year.🎆🎆🎉
7:46 the superhero wedding goes harder
My favorite comic book run to come out during the copper age is The Doom Patrol by Grant Morrison.
MY guy Tom don't mess around!! 🔥😤🔥
Happy 2024 to future indie comics 🎉❤
When are you going to do history of Marvel's Sandman and Kurt Conners the Lizard since they made a live action comeback in Spider-Man No Way Home along with the Elementals who were mentioned in Spider-Man Far From Home?
Great video
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Red Tornado 🌪️ team up 🆙 with Vision
This was incredibly informative and fun! I'm an 80s child so this was perfect. I subscribed to Tom's newsletter! [fingers crossed emoji] Also, I just ordered Dominos. Do you guys want some?
Great video. This era was the peak of my collecting... so many great books: Claremont/Sienkiewicz on New Mutants... and DeMatteis/Maguire Justice League reboot stand out for me.
man it really took two years for the Comic Book Age series to continue
Can you do history of the villains of the Stargirl TV show like Mr_Bones, Dragon king, Brainwave and Icicle? When are you going to do history of the Flash Villains Mirror Master and Top since the second half of season 6 of the Flash has finished?
Can you do history of the Atom, Major_Force, Captain Atom, Plastique, the Blackhawks, Rocket Red Brigade, Maxima, El-Dorado, Element Woman, Metamorpho, Mr Terrific and Plastic Man along with the history of the Villains Dr Alchemy and Abracadabra?
Since you did the origin of Sonic the Hedgehog characters Tails and Knuckles in your previous video, when are you going to do history of Sonic the Hedgehog himself?
When are you going to do history of JSA member Cyclone along with DC Sabbac since he's the main Villain of the Black_Adam movie?
"Miller before he went nuts..."
Since you did the history of Conrad Carapax, Are you going to do history of OMAC, Overthrow, Dr Polaris, Posse and the Brotherhood of Evil who are all Blue_Beetle villains without a Scarab?
Can you please do origin of DC the Reach who are the aliens who created the Scarab of the Blue_Beetle since no one else has done an origin video of them?
Since you did the comic book origin Dan Garett, Ted Kord and Jamie Reyes the Blue Beetle, can you do comic book origin of DC Black_Beetle, Red Beetle, Green Beetle, Yellow Beetle and the Silver_Scarab?
MY ERA..
FRANK MILLER WAS THE MAN, ALSO JOHN BYRNE, GEORGE PEREZ, BILL SEINWICZ, MIKE GOLDEN, TODD MCFARLANE, AL MIGROM , ARTHUR ADAMS, JIM LEE AND ALEX ROSS..
Definitely great video, especially after listening to Rob Liefields podcast for a few years; this really puts things together nicely. 80s wow. I like and thank y’all for the comic book history. Thank you and Happy New Year Variant and Friends!
In my opinion the Post-Crisis "The Man of Steel" (1986) is the #1 best origin of Superman. Definitive.
I liken the great things but major changes this period of comics brought about, which by the way, I started reading and collecting in '83, so I was there, to the same sentiment that Lester Bangs did in Almost Famous when he spoke about rock and roll: "Well, at least yer here for the death rattle." Just like business, culture and entertainment morphed from the mid 80's to the present state, The signs of the further fracturing and commercialization of comics and their properties/IP's were being foreshadowed too.
No mention of Grendel or Sin City?
Omg i really like Spider-Man comic books and I really really hope I can get issue 252 in perfect condition some day that would be awesome I’m 21 years old and I started reading when I was 15 I have always loved spider-man because I have crebrel palsy and just like Spider-Man I never give up always see the best in people
Can you do history of the characters mentioned in this video?
Peak era comic book content. It was never that good before and will never be that good again..... ✌🏾✌🏾
I killed Jason Todd. I voted for Death.
Thanks for this, I’ve always wondered what the ages were after 70s silver age. Great video guys! Happy New Year 😊
70’s s wasn’t silver age.. it was the Bronze Age… didn’t you take notes
this is my fav age.
I single handedly killed robin by using an auto dialer.
Didn't have to phone more than a hundred times .
They were gonna kill him anyways but I wanted to make sure he was dead
I hate Robin.
I actually own the Wolverine #1 LS and need some advice if I should sell it now or hold on to it?
I thought it was only platinum age 1800s,golden age 1930s-1952, silver age 1960s-1975,bronze age 1975-1986
I’m sad the teen titans did not get mentioned 😢
Nice
I've got a question. I've been looking to buy spider man issue 300.
What's a legit site?
Ngl copper age was amazing
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General Kenobi
General Grevious... you're shorter than I expected.
Wooohooo!
What you were calling the copper age of comics is the end of the Bronze Age😊
Name the most iconic villain in Marvel comics
I want a team up ⬆️ between Bat 🦇 Man 👨 with The Shroud
Super Man 👨 team up 🆙 with The Sentry
Wonder 💭 Woman 👩 team up 🔝 with She Hulk
Green Lantern team up ⬆️ with Quasar
Shazam team up ⬆️ with Carol Danvers
These guys didn’t mention Batman year one Batman the killing joke and Batman under the red hood got cartoon movies too
Alan Moore looks like Rasputin in one of those pics.....
Why did fans voted Jason Todd as Robin to be killed off only to come back as a revenge crazed killer which goes outside of Batman's code?
Ppl hated him then but it him coming back in the way he did makes sense. He makes more sense than batman anyway
This seems like an hour long video condensed down to 20 mins
I thought all this content was part of the Dark Age. So we can a History lookover of that next, then?
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Can u read the batman gargoyle of gotham
Just call it the Modern Age.
THAT'S AFTER THIS ONE..
Miller, Moore, Gaimen, Eastman and Laird represent this period - everyone else although great or notable did not have the tonal impact and influence for a good decade on comic book narratives and eventually film. Interesting you did not mention Dave Sim another independent who was part of the explosion of the indie publisher and creator movement. Although I love Claremont and Byrnes especially their run on the X-men, with Byrne’s layouts and Illustrations from Superman to Fantastic Four looking flawless - still, my feeling is Clarmenont and Byrnes were a familiar yet super polished transition of the great artists and writers from the 1970’s.
Reading Miller’s Daredevil run in Junior High School, my friends and I felt the art and writing was something totally new but reminiscent to Hong Kong martial art films and crime dramas like Taxi Driver, The French Connection and the God Father. Little did we know it was all a primer for 1986.
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